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14 May 2018 19:17:09
When it rains it pours! Just read that Ox not only injured his acl but the medial ligament and hamstring too. So we may not see him on the field in 2018 again. Recovery is going to take time and effort. Really empathize for the guy. Was beginning to come onto his own, and carve his own place in the team. 😒 🤞.


1.) 14 May 2018 20:08:53
Big shame for the lad, was coming into his own as well - hopefully he can make a full recovery.

2.) 14 May 2018 20:12:19
If that's true, everything else will be healed by the time his ACL has healed. It isn't like only 1 thing heals at a time.

3.) 14 May 2018 20:24:10
Don't count on seeing Ox until December 2018.

4.) 14 May 2018 20:53:15
He will be like a new signing for the second part of the season and all being well he will come back big and strong.

He has really impressed both on and off the pitch.

Got a feeling the Ox is going to pick up plenty of trophies with us in the next few seasons.

Let’s get number 6 to give him a boost.

5.) 14 May 2018 21:23:47
A bad blow and an area I get increasingly worried about. With Coutinho gone and Can likely to leave this summer we have a shortage in midfield, we have Keita arriving which eases some of the worry but now Chamberlain isn’t due back until December.

As it is we have.

Henderson (some injury issues) .
Can (leaving in summer) .
Chamberlain (out until December) .
Lallana (likely to leave) .


It seems Ceballos is highly likely which if happens gives us.


Plus Coutinho still needs replacing which hopefully mean Fekir or Pulisic arrives. Given Chamberlain is out until at least December and the possibility of any of the front three being injured or out of form, should we look to sign Ceballos, Pulisic and Fekir?

Would give us great depth and quality in midfield and attack.

6.) 14 May 2018 21:26:36
Chambo actually sourced 2 tickets for a father and son he met near the end of the season.

class act on and off the pitch!

hope he stays positive through his injury and can get through this!

7.) 14 May 2018 22:44:10
I kept thinking we got lucky with being him injury free compared to his arsenal days and now he's crocked. At least he's got the summer to recover and hopefully he can make it back before the busy christmas period.

8.) 14 May 2018 22:57:46
Hopefully he doesn't lose his pace and explosiveness. Really liked him this season, and offers a good option in the middle or wide. We Definetely need cover out wide, pace and the option to play as a forward or attacking midfielder too. Fekir ticks that box for me.

9.) 14 May 2018 22:42:25
Jonesred I understand your concerns and I’ve just been having a near identical conversation with a mate as he had the same worries. But I personally think that if we sign our targets (Cellabos and AM) along with Keita, then we will have sufficient players to cope with Ox’s injury.

If we use this seasons formation as an example and look at the squad hypothetically with those signings. Hendo, Keita and Fekir start with gigi, Milner and Cellabos in reserve is plenty, even if let’s say we lose hendo and Fekir to injury, we still would have a midfield of Cellabos, Keita and gig/ Milner, and then gives players like Trent and Woodburn the opportunity to play in midfield. Especially if we sign a rightback as the eds have mentioned.

I’d say signing another midfielder on top of all that could end up being more disruptive than productive.

10.) 15 May 2018 01:10:48
Don’t forget about TTA.

11.) 15 May 2018 05:57:23
Terrible shame. Ox had become an automatic starter in the midfield. An explosive player. He was outstanding against City in the CL.

This is clearly a very serious injury to his knee. It is entirely possible he will come back as good as before. Also entirely possible he will never be the same player.

At this point, the club has to plan for life without him. "Back in December2018", "nine months" etc are all just guesses.

So we very much need to bring in another midfielder now, in addition to Keita.

12.) 16 May 2018 15:27:32
No way Lallana leaves this summer - I expect him to make an impact when he gets subbed in in the 65th minute of the CL Final.

That being said, I only think we'll bring in 1 or 2 additional midfielders.

I personally get excited about the potential of a Milner, Keita, Ox midfield, and I don't think it's the end of the world if Lallana starts the season in Ox's spot

Bottom line, I'm not too worried about our midfield depth, even though it looks rough for the CL Final.

13.) 17 May 2018 15:58:50
He is only 24 yo. I remember Mane was injured and got back in 2 months.




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11 Nov 2019 06:47:10
Can you believe it? The most important game of the year, thus far, and the local state government decided to shut off all internet access in anticipation of possible sociopolitical problems. So I missed the game. I was a walking, screaming bundle of nerves the whole weekend. You guys have it very lucky.


1.) 11 Nov 2019 08:25:50
That's sh*te ra mate.

{Ed001's Note - it now means he will have to miss every big game in case he jinxes us.....}

2.) 11 Nov 2019 09:36:15
Are you in competition with Ed002 or something, in trying to stir up trouble, Ed001, LOL? (You have a long ways to go, he does it instantly, 😂)

{Ed001's Note - no trouble, just explaining the situation as you are obviously a Jonah and so not allowed to watch big games again.}

3.) 11 Nov 2019 13:51:03
One minute I say I don't believe in this 'jinx BS' now you're making me think Ed for Christ sake. Hahaha to be on the safe side, ra, don't watch anymore big games mate. Or any infarct 🤔.

{Ed001's Note - better to be safe than sorry, I had to miss Spurs' games for years because I missed one and we won well.}



08 Nov 2019 18:13:39
Good evening Ed001. Trust you are well. Pep Guardiola is supposed to have said "Liverpool is probably the strongest team in the World right now". What do you think? Mind games or is he just being factual since so many of his own players are out injured? And, do you share his opinion if you think he is being sincere?


{Ed001's Note - mind games of course.}

1.) 08 Nov 2019 18:32:34
OP, Never believe what comes out of that guy's mouth regarding Liverpool. He has always been someone who blows smoke up his rivals' arse esp. those that he is threatened by. If he is not threatened by you just like Mou or Fergie were, then he does not talk nor say anything like that about you or your team.

We don't need Pep to tell us how good we are. We have empirical and visual evidence of that and he is terrified of us. It is up to us to do our best to show it at every occasion. O n btw, that whole "Ederson is out for the Anfield game"? Don't eat the cheese. It's a trap, IMO. I'll believe it when I see it.

2.) 08 Nov 2019 18:34:24
Pep is far too arrogant to think another team other than his is the greatest in the world.

His level of mind games for this match shows how rattled he is by us.

The margins are so fine for this game that any yard you can take could make a difference.

3.) 08 Nov 2019 18:58:18
I don't mind much if Ederson does indeed suit up and play. Has never shown me anything seriously worthwhile.

4.) 08 Nov 2019 18:58:44
Thanks Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

5.) 08 Nov 2019 22:26:05
I don't think for any reason pep would lie about ederson, it woukdnt really have much impact on how klopp approaches the game. He's also publically backed his trust in bravo too much for it to be a big lie.

6.) 09 Nov 2019 00:38:41
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Ederson makes a miraculous recovery in the next 36 hours.
I think he’s their most important player and transformed their back line after he signed for them much as Ali has done for us. Pep knows that Liverpool are clever enough to know this so I really wouldn’t put it past him to try to give us hope he’s out when he’s actually fit.

7.) 09 Nov 2019 10:08:29
Lol 'I think he’s their most important player and transformed their back line after he signed for them much as Ali has done for us. '

You can't be serious? their defence/ keeper aren't good enough for such a team, if they improved on both I'd be worried but they continue to ignore it. What makes you (and others) think Ederson is so damn good? it baffles me it really does because 9/ 10 when he gets tested he concedes. may I ask, how many games have you seen him play?

8.) 09 Nov 2019 10:35:08
Spot on, Salah. people seem enamored with his ability to play out of the back and be very good with the ball at his fit. That fits the style of play City want to play. But what does it matter to a GK if he can do that YET can't keep the ball out of the net for majority of the time he is tested? This is where Allison is miles ahead of Ederson, IMO.

Alison is solid with the ball at his feet and to me, that is all I need for him to be in this regard. What I really need for AB1 to be is keep the ball out the net as much as possible, command his box and defence and take charge of situations and try to keep us in games. Ederson is poor at ALL of these IMO hence, City keeps struggling defensively regardless of the over 300m they have spent on defenders and GK's (Ederson and Bravo cost 70m alone) .

9.) 09 Nov 2019 10:56:01
Come on Salah take your blinkers off and look at it for what it is. City were woeful in Pep’s first season and he was a huge factor in them improving so much.
I’ve seen him play lots of times I watch City’s games whenever they are on and I’ve always been impressed by Ederson.
I question your football knowledge if you think he’s not a good keeper. Your statements are just not true and quite frankly a little condescending.

10.) 09 Nov 2019 13:28:39
Well whatever BP mate, you question my football knowledge, that's fine, I have very little but I know a good keeper when I see one. Ederson is not a good keeper so your football knowledge must be worse than mine and that's saying something.



06 Oct 2019 15:56:37
My o my. ManC lose again. Reminds me of Ed001's words that Guardiola loses his way by the third season. Could be prophetic. And to all the guys hammering constantly about our bench not being as good as theirs, let this serve as a lesson. It doesn't matter how good your bench is, if your first XI is not producing the goods!


1.) 06 Oct 2019 16:20:04
Boom, well said mate.

2.) 06 Oct 2019 16:46:54
I agree with ed's assessment that Pep's teams regress every single season, which usually culminates in a below-par third season, but we still can't get ahead of ourselves. After all, we were 7 points ahead at one point last season and we still couldn't win it. It's early on, we've still got a lot of games ahead of us, let's just focus on out next fixture against United for now.

3.) 06 Oct 2019 17:51:46
I haven't asked for any victory parades just yet, Zpecialone. I know every Epl team goes through a dip at least once a season, and it's still 30 games to go. At some point we'll have ours too. My post was hinting at ManC's perceived "invincibility" by many people, and arguing it's not the case perhaps anymore, despite the great team they have been the past two years.

4.) 06 Oct 2019 18:44:43
ArAy, we have been saying that this whole thing about City's "invincibility" was nothing short of media propaganda to lull the rest of us into believing it and hence, other teams will chose not to challenge them. Clearly, this is no longer working.

I remember when we talk about this and how City are sitting ducks esp. defensively BUT one of the Ed's on here (he knows who he is) would always slate us, saying we are haters and not wanting to give City credit for their play, which is pathetic cos we all know how good City is and have been for a few years now.

For the last two seasons, City have been exposed as defensively liable and useless even after Pep has spent over 300m on defenders and GK's and now, they played a Wolves team that really, should have pummeled them even more. As for LFC, nothing has changed for us. 30 games left (virtually a full season) to play so one game at a time and keep the focus on 100%. City and their issues? That has nothing to do with us.

{Ed025's Note - what happened to..."im not interested in what city do"..shallow hal..

5.) 06 Oct 2019 19:23:03
Ed25, your troll game is getting weaker by the minute. Step your game up, bro. You're losing it. Seems like the "One of the Ed's" part of my post drew you out. You're so predictable and easily triggered, man. Like I said, your game is weak, lol.

As for City, I am free to comment on whatever I feel like AND still not care about what they do. Someone made a comment and I chimed in. See how that works, boob-boo? One would think that you are sufficiently intelligent enuff to know that two things can be correct at the same time BUT I stand corrected ) laugh) . Btw, mind the gap to relegation cos if your lot gets relegated, who is Origi going to torture for fun and who's life will he continue to ruin on derby days?

{Ed025's Note - my game is in fine fettle redwolf, i am of superior intelligence to you my friend and this is just another ploy by you to justify your strange rants, even though my team is not on top form i certainly am and you will forever be in my shadow but best of luck to you in your persuit of acceptance..

6.) 06 Oct 2019 20:35:32
Very well said ArAy, couldn't agree more.

7.) 06 Oct 2019 20:39:08
Strange rants. Projection much?

8.) 08 Oct 2019 07:41:33
Geez, some of you guys take this stuff way too seriously. It's only football. The only thing missing are the 4 feet long broadswords and full battle armour. 😂.



25 Sep 2019 22:00:38
Harvey Elliott is the most talented prospect we have had since Raheem Sterling. And that too despite that hair bun.


1.) 25 Sep 2019 22:23:43
There’s been a few we have got excited about, they just need to keep their head down and kick on. Don’t let playing for Liverpool get to them. Can’t believe he’s only 16.

2.) 25 Sep 2019 22:32:58
How's on earth can this guy be 16?! 😅
So impressive.

3.) 25 Sep 2019 22:36:21
I would love to see what this kid can do in the first team. Imagine if he had Bobby etc to link with in a competitive game. Hope Klopp brings him off the bench when we can afford too!

4.) 25 Sep 2019 23:05:11
I'd love that too Jurgenator. Unfortunately, even when a game is well won, Klopp tends to bring on experienced bench players to see a game out rather than letting a young lad have a few minutes.

5.) 25 Sep 2019 23:57:38
He looked quality but he's still very young, all we can do is hope for the best for the lad, he has a good future ahead should he knuckle down and focus on football over anything else. I look forward to seeing more of him because he looked bloody brilliant.

6.) 26 Sep 2019 02:36:29
He looks good, still got a lot to learn though. Should've been more clinical on front of goal but I liked how pissed he was with his second miss, even though the game was won. Let's not forget it was a 3rd division team and we gave them the chance to win the game. Know I'm getting old, they looked like the cast of Grange hill. Mr milner was good.
Lallana needs to be more crisp in his passing to play no6. Was brilliant to see Keita back and even better to see the ox. Strolled it and nearly scored a worldie.

7.) 26 Sep 2019 16:17:17
He is very talented but he needs to work on his finishing. the first crossbar was a fairly bad miss. It can happen but he seems to have a few near misses from the games I've seen. Needs to work on it.

I think this is a big improvement on his reserve games. I think he needs to work on this also. He needs to give the same work rate every game regardless of opposition.

He is only 16 though.

{Ed025's Note - a bit harsh there davey, at least he got in the positions to score and was damn unlucky i would say mate..



14 Sep 2019 14:32:05
Roberto Firmino - What a player. Does anyone really think Salah and Mane would score as many goals without him?


1.) 14 Sep 2019 15:00:23
Utter genius, ArAy. He was flaunting his abilities today. So glad he's ours.

2.) 14 Sep 2019 15:49:18
Best No.9 in the League if not the world, he is our most important player imo. Great result today against a tough steve bruce side. YNWA.

3.) 14 Sep 2019 16:06:32
Bobbie is just clowning opposition players right now. It is outright insane the things he is accomplishing on the pitch. His abilities as an attacking talent, are just unreal and second to none.

4.) 14 Sep 2019 16:40:16
He was actually such a joy to watch wasn’t he. The type of player you will tell your kids about in years to come

Red Sandman.

5.) 14 Sep 2019 17:57:11
It's actually amazing. Forwards and strikers thrive on open spaces and one-on-one situations. Yet this man is at his best in closed spaces and surrounded by players; and somehow usually finds a way to pass the ball on to the open man for a goal. Completely selfless, is happy when others score as much as when he does.

6.) 14 Sep 2019 17:28:59
He's gone up another level this season. Keep him fit and he'll continue to rip teams apart in this Form. I think we're the best team in Europe again, can't wait put that Napoli performance right.

7.) 14 Sep 2019 18:38:41
The commentator said "champagne of football from Firmino". Exactly!

8.) 14 Sep 2019 19:44:14
Forget about the number on his back because he might not score as much as some number 9s, but in our team, the way we play he is some player. So unselfish, a real team player and vision that you don't learn on the training ground. Quality.

9.) 14 Sep 2019 19:51:12
But guys, like, Bobby's good but he doesn't score enough goals. We could get a 'natural striker' like Greedy Kane and play Bobby at no. 10. That'd work better and wouldn't disrupt the team balance or anything. Not even a little bit. (sarcasm, obviously)

We have the best front three in world football, they all compliment and understand each other. Right now, I wouldn't swap any of them for any player.

10.) 14 Sep 2019 20:00:40
That's all other fans say about bobby, how many goals does he score? They don't see what he brings to r team. He completed changed the game today when he came on.

As for today's match, I worry about trent defensively at times. He wasnt great today but I think that could have been down to ox not covering him at times. Hopefully the ox can regain his form again, he looked a mile off it today. Great win though today, we didn't get out of 2nd gear. sitting in airport waiting on my delayed flight home from liverpool as I write this. YNWA.

11.) 14 Sep 2019 23:55:42
we need to be patient with the Ox, he has been out for a very long time, let's be fair the Newcastle goal was a hell of a finish, we started sloppy but once we scored there was only going to be one winner.

12.) 15 Sep 2019 04:12:46
roro1892 i don't think trent and AOC were all that poor. For the goal Trent had to shift over to Atsu in the centre as VVD and matip were after getting sucked too far left and Trent then had no choice but to tuck in. When the ball went to willems a left footed FB with no options in the box Trent just tried to stand him up which was sensible choice but willems unexpectedly cut into weaker foot with quick touch and struck a rocket. If he strikes that over the bar or into Adrian then trent doesn't get criticised. He wasn't really caught out much all game to be a worry.

AOC looked quiet impressive I thought barring a few poor touches as he's still rusty I'm sure. He covered a lot of ground and his pass rate was in the 95% bracket, he didn't look out of place.

13.) 15 Sep 2019 11:58:16
AOC looked impressive? U watched a different game from me mate. He was running about like a headless chicken at times.

14.) 15 Sep 2019 20:54:45
Roro, calm down with Ox and Trent. Ox is still trying to get up to speed and TAA did what he was supposed to do cos he had Atsu and Willems to deal with cos Matip and VVD got sucked in on the left, as Har_red92 said. As a FB, you are coached to go and mark the inside man (Atsu) cos he is the closet to goal and leave the wide man (Willems) open and hope that the cavalry arrives as it is harder to score from where Willems was (out wide) than where Atsu (thru the middle ) was.

Trent was able to see off the danger of Atsu and went one on one with Willems. Again as a FB, you are coached to show him the inside on his weaker foot which TAA did BUT I'm sure even you did not know he would fire a belter from there with his weaker foot.

BTW, the very same thing happened with Robbo when Krafth was open for NUFC and blazed over. Robbo took the inside guy and with Gini not picking Krafth up, he was free to shoot. Simple defending, really. Chill out, man.

15.) 15 Sep 2019 22:17:27
Red wolf, I'm hardly slating them. I said I worry about trent defensively at times didn't even mention the goal. Other teams must worry about this as most of their attacks go down the left wing.

Aoc I said had a poor game but like I said I hope he can regain his fitness again.




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24 Oct 2019 20:23:50
I think there's an equal argument for Keita to start as much as Ox, if you are going to base an opinion on just the last game against Genk. Keita had more passes, more dribbles and more tackles than anyone else. Yes sure, it was only Genk, but there you go. How can you successfully argue that Ox would be great against Spurs but Keita wouldn't be?

The wise thing is to do what Klopp is doing. Stick with the players that got you to the top level you are at. Tinker from time to time according to the kind of team and style being faced, and make timely substitutions during games to gain what someone on the bench can offer.

I really couldn't care a damn what a player thinks if he's not starting and sitting on the bench. It's a 25 player squad that attacks each game, not just the 11 on the field. The team, and the wins, come first.




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28 Sep 2019 20:01:46
There were offers for Chirivella. He declined to leave.




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28 Sep 2019 10:09:21
I don't see the connection between this coach and bringing in Ruben Névés. Because they're both Portuguese? How many German players have been brought in since Klopp became our manager?




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25 Sep 2019 23:18:47
This is what I love about football. The "tribalism" it creates. Here we are arguing over our "colors" despite (perhaps) being oceans apart. Really cool.




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25 Sep 2019 23:06:45
I'd look at a few others like Justin Kluivert and Leon Bailey. Even an Ousmane Dembele may not that be bad if he's taken away from that Barcelona pressure cooker and Klopp is allowed to work on him.





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19 Nov 2019 09:54:10
I think almost all the horrifying players signed in recent times actually turned out to be quite horrifying. But the one player that sticks out in mind for exceeding all my expectations, is Robertson. I thought he would simply be an able backup to Moreno and stick around for a few years. He's turned that completely around. His ability to swallow up acres of space on the left (because of the way the team plays) and cause imminent danger, is a vital aspect to our attacking game.




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15 Nov 2019 21:46:31
Clearly the Barcelona game, even though I watched the Istanbul game live (on tv) . We were bigger underdogs at Anfield and almost no one gave us a chance of overturning the deficit from the first leg, let alone have a clean sheet by the end. Winning against Barca, despite not having Firmino and Salah, was like playing Istanbul without Gerrard and Alonso. That Milan team at Istanbul was full of "Galacticos", but I believe we were weaker at Anfield, and the odds for a loss were greater. And yet we played them completely off the park.




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11 Nov 2019 09:36:15
Are you in competition with Ed002 or something, in trying to stir up trouble, Ed001, LOL? (You have a long ways to go, he does it instantly, 😂)


{Ed001's Note - no trouble, just explaining the situation as you are obviously a Jonah and so not allowed to watch big games again.}



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08 Nov 2019 18:58:44
Thanks Ed001.


{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}



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08 Nov 2019 18:58:18
I don't mind much if Ederson does indeed suit up and play. Has never shown me anything seriously worthwhile.