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28 May 2024 17:58:30
Hi Ed 001,

Just seen your banter response to @Dhfc, and I was curious: Summerville seems to be one you would avoid, with us already having options on the left. Would you be content with Gakpo and Jota on the left (Diaz sold), and Darwin and Danns down the middle?

With how Slot plays, I think Szob and Harvey will take the 10, and Salah and a new RW (Bakayoko, maybe? ) on the right.

Thoughts?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - yes because Darwin can play left, as can Szobo, Elliott and the likes of Clark. So plenty of cover.}

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28 May 2024 18:14:52
We need more goals not less. We finished 10 goals behind City and that was with Diaz. If you want to overtake Coty we will have to add a forward.

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28 May 2024 16:28:43
Question for Ed 1

With rumours of Diaz and salah potentially leaving and their contracts needing sorting to retain value in the players if they do indeed stay . who out their do you deem good enough to replace them 2 .

I've seen lots of talk on Johan bakayoko who looks like a ideal salah back up / replacement as he's very much in the mould of mo and I've also seen links to Summerville of Leeds who for my eyes looks very much in the mould of Díaz and loves to come in on the right foot from the left .

Is there a chance of either of them / both or can you enlighten us with who else you fancy in the wide forward areas that we maybe don't know much about?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - to be honest I am not so sure we need to replace Diaz, we have plenty of options on the left. It is the right side that we have an issue, other than Salah we only really have Diaz and Szoboszlai who can play there. Diaz I am not convinced by on the right anyway, his end product is so poor that putting him out there does nothing to improve us. The likes of Doak are simply nowhere near ready, if he ever will be. If it was the centre, I would want to give Danns the chance to play, but on the right I would worry that Elliott will be shifted out there just when he is showing so much promise in the centre.

So yes, we definitely need to replace Salah in my view. For the long term anyway, even if not the short term. That is a real problem as there is no one that really stands out for me that would be available unless we could get Musiala. Anyone else is a downgrade from where we want to be or putting Szoboszlai and Elliott there. I can't think of a player I saw that stood out, though I haven't been able to watch as much football as usual this last year. It also depends on how Slot wants to play them, it might even be that Elliott and Szoboszlai are the perfect answers if they are playing as number 10s rather than wingers or wide forwards.

Bakayoko does look about the best up and coming player for that position. Sommerville is very much left-sided and a one-trick pony who was poor for most of the season. I have to say there is attitude problems amongst the Leeds squad and he was one of the major issues along with Gnonto from what I can see. So I would avoid him. I would much rather have Gakpo there than either of those, or Darwin there and put Danns up top. For me we need to look for a big player to replace Mo and one to replace van Dijk. We need to recruit the best we can, like we did when buying Virgil and Alisson, as they make a difference and they have huge shoes to fill. Pretty much every other hole can be filled by the current squad and youth academy. We need to leave gaps for the most promising players, like we did to get Quansah and Bradley their chance this season.}

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28 May 2024 16:58:10
Right sided forward
And a centre half . Should be the minimum business we do regardless of outgoings .
I would sell Diaz if the opportunity arises as I don’t think he will sign a new contract and is clearly wanting to join Barca.

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28 May 2024 17:08:09
Szoboszlai/ Gakpo on the left
Elliott/ Jones as the 10
Mo/ Bakayoko on the right
Darwin/ Jota up top?

I think we could well see something like that but there’s potential for it to not work at all. What if Darwin doesn’t find any form or Mo doesn’t get back to his best. Jota and Jones will miss games. Gakpo and Szoboszlai haven’t set the world alight. Slot has a tough job on his hands.

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28 May 2024 17:44:10
Boss insight their ed 1 also . I think the new challenge of the new team and coach will bring the best out of this young group as they all have a chance to impress . This is now the time for szoboslai to lay down a marker I hope 👍🏻.

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{Ed001's Note - I have high hopes for our Dom.}

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28 May 2024 09:34:30
Ryan Gravenberch had a bad couple of seasons at Bayern Munich and his confidence was shot to pieces by Thomas Tuchel. But in the last few games, i can see his confidence returning slowly and green shoots are appearing to come through. I think with a Dutch coach, we may well see the real Ryan Gravenberch next season YNWA.

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28 May 2024 09:48:43
Didn't Gravenberch only play for Bayern for one season, mostly under Nagelsmann then under Tuchel for like 2 months. So not sure how his confidence would have been shot to pieces by Tuchel.

From his performances with us, he has shown that he has the potential to make it with us but he has only showed it in flashes thus far. He still has time on his side though and I would like to see how he progresses under Slot next season.

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28 May 2024 10:36:28
I think Grav is playing for his future under the new manager, alongside a few others in the midfield like Jones, Bajcetic (injuries), Morton.

Personally I think only two of the above four will survive.

I’d move them on and bring in Ederson to give us physicality and legs in the midfield.

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28 May 2024 10:39:52
Although Grav didn't set the world alight he does offer something different to the other midfielders. He is best at receiving the ball on the half turn and then running at the opposition. He also looks like he has some goals in him.

A lot have written him off and want him to be sold this summer but I like him and think that he is definitely worth at least another season. It is likely that the midfield setup will be slightly different under Slot which may (or may not) suit him better, he will be more settled and like you say the Dutch link may benefit him.

Although the club have done what they can to smooth the transition from Klopp, the fact is that there is massive change at the club this summer. We may well see some top players struggling and 'squad' players thriving. let's just strap in and enjoy it!

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28 May 2024 11:54:50
In fairness to the lad he's only a year older than Elliot so I'd definitely like to see him given another year at least to progress with the club next season.

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28 May 2024 12:10:29
Bajetic is meant to have discipline problems too and gakpo says in recent interview that he is late for everything which is not good attitude for aspiring top player hope he doesn’t destroy potential from bad mistakes.

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28 May 2024 12:27:46
Where has this BajcEtic discipline problblem come from?

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28 May 2024 13:03:08
Like I said the gakpo interview, he was asked to describe bacjetic and he said always late, maybe nothing but it doesn’t look good for me.

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28 May 2024 13:19:12
You do make a good point there Jk23. Personally I can't see it working out for him but it'll be interesting to see how he will do under slot. Fingers crossed for him of course. I do hope he does well. I'm always wrong so he's going to smash it next season, just watch lol.

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28 May 2024 13:44:16
If he cannot add aggression to his game, he won't fulfil his potential. The new coaches will need to find a way to unlock that.

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28 May 2024 14:32:45
Jesus christ colonel, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill😁.

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28 May 2024 14:46:59
I think it’s a stretch to say “Bajetic is meant to have discipline problems” based on a jokey comment from a teammate in an interview.

He’s 19. He’s a teenager. I wouldn’t say he’s got discipline problems but maybe I’m a soft touch.

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28 May 2024 15:18:22
Everyone will be getting a chance to impress the new manager for the most part so those who were on the edge of the squad like Gravenberch was, will be able to stake his claim.

Personally, I would keep him for another seasonto see what he can do cos the natural talent is there, IMO. He just needs to add all the other things required to be a good LFC midfielder to his game.

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28 May 2024 16:02:58
Why does the idea persist that because people are from the same country things will work out for the best. I was born in England and I can guarantee you that I didn’t like everybody in England. I’m an Australian citizen now and, again, I don’t like all Australians who know what Slot’s relationship with RG will turn out to be.

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28 May 2024 16:08:44
I think the Dutch players could all end up doing well under Slot, given his philosophy is an adaptation of the Dutch 'Total Football' model. That model is still the foundation for Dutch football today and therefore something the likes of Gakpo, Virgil, Gravenberch and Sepp vdB will all have grown up around. Gravenberch in particular was a product of the Ajax academy where 'Total Football' has been ingrained throughout the club for decades.

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{Ed025's Note - but sometimes that total football ethic does not always fit with the pace of the premiership MK, you dont get time on the ball like you do in Holland mate and thats why players like Donny VDB etc were like fish out of water, just my opinion of course..

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28 May 2024 16:34:44
I don't think Gravenberch is adaptable enough to survive. He would be best as a number 10 and he's not good enough to play out wide or in a deeper central position. We have an abundance of players I'd prefer as an advanced 8 or 10, both on ability and their adaptability: Mac Allister, Jones, Szoboslzai, Elliott, even Bobby Clark. They all have him beat on both counts. I'd normally be in favour of him having another chance under the new manager but I just can't see where he fits in unfortunately.

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28 May 2024 07:58:01
Hey Ed's. do you think Slot will try and buy Santiago Giminez when he arrives? He's been improving for a while and was Feyenoord's top goal scorer, young lad, only 23, I think he could be a great signing. I know Spurs have been sniffing around and he's watched a couple of matches at their ground. If we think Diaz is moving, we could easily have Darwin in the wing and slay Giminez as a striker, he's arguably more clinical than Darwin, though hard to judge in Dutch league. What do you think, might happen?

Thanks
Hoody.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in Santiago Gimenez and two other sides are already in discussions with Fyenoord. Liverpool has Jota and Gakpo who play predominently on the left, so Nunez won't be playing there.}

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28 May 2024 13:22:52
Thanks Ed, shame, I think he’ll be a big star.

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28 May 2024 15:21:01
Hoody, It was Slot who created the Gimenez version that you think will be a big star. I'm pretty sure he is salivating at what he can do with Darwin especially with the raw ability, pace and strength the kid possesses. Personally, Im excited to see how he can improve him after all, he is the one who improved Gimenez that other clubs want to sign.

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28 May 2024 16:04:34
@Oli, the kid is 25 next month.

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Who's In Arne Slot's Liverpool First Team Squad?

28 May 2024 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, Who's In Arne Slot's Liverpool First Team Squad?

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28 May 2024 09:51:42
Excellent read MK!

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28 May 2024 10:26:55
Great read that Adam 👏👏.

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28 May 2024 10:58:31
Good read.

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28 May 2024 11:51:36
Great read! I think Sepp and Morton are going to surprise everyone next year - Sepp really has grown into his own this year performing way above the team and position in the league.

Morton, he’s also grown a lot even though it was the same league as Blackburn he just looked a class above - I can see him coming back and chasing that missing role in our midfield.

Completely agree very excited with the talent in the team and with a few clever additions we can continue to compete at the top! I just really hope we don’t see any injuries at the euros or players not coming back fully fit!

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28 May 2024 12:12:28
Carvalho has over ten games for hill city since January a very excellent return I think he can be what Coutinho was when first joining our club and morton looks very nice too please try these guys arney.

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28 May 2024 13:03:33
Goals sorry.

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28 May 2024 13:30:01
Colonel, his attitude is what concerns me mate. He was banned from two hull pubs within the space of 30 minutes. He had a bunch of people with him acting the fool. About a month or two ago, I didn't see it but I heard about it.

He did well at hull, I've seen him play. I've gone to a few of their games this season just for the jolly but from what I saw he acted like he was god and everybody else had to do the work before he made an effort. His whole attitude is just wrong for me. Don't get me wrong it'll be interesting to see what Slot does with him but I have huge doubts he will last here. His head is up in the clouds.


Not read your post mk will do later mate when I get home.

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28 May 2024 13:39:29
What happened with musolowski (spelling) he was been hailed as our "messi" a couple of seasons ago?

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28 May 2024 14:18:42
Great read MK and I love that you are as optimistic as I am. I'm really looking forward to see how we set up and how the current players adapt to his playing style.

More than anything I (like many of you) want Darwin to flourish next season and get the numbers we know he's capable of. If he, Gakpo and Jota stay fit and confident we could have a great season.

I'd also like to see more of Jayden Danns too, he really didn't look phased when he has played and certainly knows where the goal is

Lets keep our fingers crossed that we kick on and finish next season with another trophy or two!

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28 May 2024 15:37:33
gmil, strange isn't it. Musialowski actually won our goal of the season a few years back for a goal right out of the Messi copybook. I think physically he never really bulked up and was finding it hard to even make a consistent impact even on u21's football, so that's probably the main reason why he's being let go.

There are a few reports that Lijnders wants to take him to RB Salzburg, so hopefully he'll have a decent little career over in Austria.

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28 May 2024 17:05:07
Cheers mk, great read by the way.

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27 May 2024 23:11:50
Be interested to hear other posters view on this. Assuming we play a double 6 with Trent moving into midfield and another all round midfielder comes in, Mac Allister and Elliott playing mostly as the 10. Were does gravenberch fit in, I think he's got the skill set to develop into a very good back to Gakpo on the left up top?

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27 May 2024 23:31:36
Not sure I agree with that. His close control and agility limit him ability to play left wing.

He’s a ball winning midfielder.

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27 May 2024 23:33:59
I think macalister and trent make sense at 6 with the passing ability and ranges of distance, koop and szob at ten both have outrageous long shot ability which is quite mouth watering, gravenberch I visualise to be a back up rotation player with jones Elliot ends morton carvalho bajeyic.

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28 May 2024 02:11:16
You're seeing more in the lad then I am mate, unfortunately. I just don't see him working out for us.

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28 May 2024 03:00:10
He will play RB and invert to be one of the pivots. That is how Slot plays. He is the dream RB for him. I donot see him moving into mf.

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28 May 2024 03:28:08
He seems more focused going forward than defending and seems capable of going past players. I believe he is also reasonably composed in front of goal. I know he’s not doing enough yet but I think his potential ability is high. I think he could end up being Like a lesser Stevie g.

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28 May 2024 04:00:51
Hi sanjit. You may be right about Trent but I genuinely believe the balance of the team would be better with Trent playing as one of a double 6 and Bradley playing at RB he’s going to be way too good to be on the bench.

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28 May 2024 07:34:26
I'm not quite sure where grav will fit in but we do have to remember we in champ league this year and there a minimum of 8 games in group stage possibly 10 so are squad will be needed. Even tho we well stocked in midfield we ended up playing gomez at 6 last season due to injuries and that was with us in europa league where group was v weak, champ league will all be tough games I would imagine, no gimmes.

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28 May 2024 07:44:05
I should copy and paste this! I don't see Trent playing in midfield as double pivot, whatever that means, or in any other position other than right back. With regards to Gravenberch, I don't see a future with us in the long term, or medium term, come to that.

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28 May 2024 08:24:16
Colonel, TAA and MAC at number 6 is nothing more than an open invitation to run at our defence. Neither of them are defensive minded midfielders and doesn’t fix the problems from last year. If Slot tries that he’ll find out that hard way that you don’t win titles without a strong top class centre midfielder.

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28 May 2024 09:19:41
If we play a double pivot i'd have Mac aand more defensively mided player, not Endo though. Shouldnt be starting. let trent ccompete with bradley.

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28 May 2024 09:40:41
Agree with you on that, June nkunku.

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28 May 2024 09:53:17
Given we don't really know what Slot will want to do when he gets his hand on this squad of players, we can only speculate. Klopp played with a double-pivot at Dortmund too. Ours is a different squad to Feyenoord, in a different league with different qualities.

We can however look at the overall balance of the squad and say:

1) We need a defensive midfielder that can cover the ground
2) We need to replace Matip
3) We need a left-footed defender that can progress the ball
4) We need another speedy wide forward given Salah's declining long pace
5) We might need to replace Kelleher if he goes.

If we can sort those things out, then Slot will have everything he needs to play with almost any tactical setup.

As for Trent - I'll stand by the opinion that he should be play RB and be asked to invert on instruction rather than as he feels.

And Gravenberch - a strange signing for me. If we do choose to invest in his development, he needs to start by unlocking some aggression. Without that he will fail.

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28 May 2024 10:04:39
Agree with everything you've said there, FPF. Regards to Kelleher replacement, I read this morning that we're linked with Trafford. Hope there's no truth in that. I know he's young, but I wouldn't want him filling in for Alisson, given his performances for Burnley last season.

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28 May 2024 10:20:00
Cheers, Rome1977.

I haven't seen Trafford enough but when I have seen him he reminded me of Kelleher a lot with his footwork. So I can see why they might look at him from that point of view.

However, would he want to go an sit on the bench at Liverpool at this stage of his career?

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28 May 2024 10:45:09
I’d take Trafford as a Kelleher replacement. Homegrown and still a good young keeper. Wouldn’t want him as first choice, but as back up he’s similar in level to Ortega, Ramsdale etc.

We’re incredibly lucky to have a keeper as good as Kelleher as back up. It’s unlikely to happen again for some time at any Prem club because top keepers don’t move to sit on the bench. Kelleher just happened to come through our academy, but it’s only a matter of time before he looks at his situation a realises he deserves more.

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28 May 2024 11:05:02
Have to disagree with you, MKS. He's no where near the level of Ortega or Ramsdale. He's like a crisp when it comes to the physical stuff, from what I've seen, and he lost his place in the Burnley side because of it. Maybe he will improve, and I'm sure he will, but given the injuries Alisson had this year, I wouldn't want Trafford anywhere near our first team.

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28 May 2024 11:10:45
Reference the OG question, Macca played his best footy in a double pivot, so I think he would be best there alongside Trent as first choice pairing. I think Gravenberch provide rotation and cover to Mac as role rather than something further forward. Although I do think he could play 10, I reckon we have many better players.
All up in the air though isn't it. Certainly exciting and I'm looking forward to seeing how we line up and play.

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28 May 2024 11:57:35
It was said the other day that Real are trying to persuade Trents agent into him running down his contract to move there.

Any idea what position Real see Trent in with their interest.

Is it Right Back or Midfield or both?

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28 May 2024 12:14:16
Yes I know vikyor but that is how Arne plays he don’t have tradition defensive midfielder but has 3 players saying back in the back line not 2 so maybe we have more cover that way? In possession t makes my mouth salivate.

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28 May 2024 14:08:14
He's very good playing out from the back though Rome and also still incredibly young for a keeper at 21 years old. With better players and coaches to learn from in training, and also less pressure on his goal when he does play, I think you'd see a lot less mistakes from him. The raw ability is there to see, and he's one of the best penalty stoppers I've seen in a long time.

It's a fair point though mate, as Trafford's not ready to be starting regularly and Alisson is quite unreliable in terms of fitness.

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{Ed077's Note - Kelleher to Trafford is a big downgrade I'd say. Surely one of the young academy lads is half decent such that you don't have to throw money for Trafford

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28 May 2024 15:25:26
MKS like Rome1977! and Ed77, Trafford is nowhere near Kellerher's ability and him being homegrown and all that doesn't do much for me if the kid cannot step in the way Kellerher has been.

Now I don't know who we can get BUT I've seen Trafford and he is relentlessly awful. there are other very good options out there we can get and sorry, they don't have to be English or homegrown cos you can be all that and still be crap, which Trafford is.

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28 May 2024 16:09:03
When we talk about players being a ‘pivot’ can somebody explain to me what that actually means? Genuine question.

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28 May 2024 16:38:38
WDW3, I'm with you, mate. Just more gobbledygook, jargon. However, having read up on it, when it comes to the "double pivot" it's requiring of tackling, winning headers, winning second balls and controlling the tempo of play, to name but a few. Basically being a midfielder! This rules Trent and Mac Allister ever being a "double pivot". In my humble opinion of course.

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27 May 2024 19:42:12
So Arne is used to having a Lidl transfer budget in Holland but is about to be given a Waitrose style budget.

We had 19 players on loan last season and I can't see any of them making the 1st team squad next season.

Then we have Adrian, Matip and Tiago gone

Rumours say Kelleher, Gomez and Diaz want to go and I'd also let Kostas, Hendo and Jones go to raise funds.

So we need 2 keepers
A left back
At least 1 centre back
2 midfielders
1 winger.

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27 May 2024 20:18:56
Hendo?

Did I miss something?

The old guard really must be coming back, since Klopp left.

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27 May 2024 20:34:59
Definitely let Hendo go.

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27 May 2024 20:37:23
7 players? It’s not the twelve days of Christmas.

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27 May 2024 21:16:30
I almost stopped reading at Hendo but I'm glad I didn't as I would have missed hilarious part where you think we need to sign 7 players this summer.

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27 May 2024 22:02:02
OP, I was with you in your first statement and then, it all went downhill from there.

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27 May 2024 22:41:17
He’s going from a Lidl budget to a Tesco’s Value budget in fairness.

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{Ed025's Note - yeah VV...but every little helps mate.. :)

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28 May 2024 02:13:13
What a post, lol. Love it mate, good one.

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28 May 2024 05:13:20
If were letting Hendo go, my money is on him heading to the middle east. Having said that, i can't see him really fitting in there and probably wouldn't last longer than six months or so.

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28 May 2024 10:34:04
You might want to put your mortgage and any savings on that as a bet DE. I think you're onto something.

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28 May 2024 12:37:16
On the subject of Hendo he's had a bit of a stinker.

Gave up the captaincy of a huge club because he wasn't guaranteed to start every game and said he wanted to grow the sport in Saudi on astronomical wages.

He then decided to leave Saudi at a financial cost to himself to save his Euro 24 chances of which he hasn't made the squad.

Shame really as he seems a nice enough lad but i'm not really sure where he goes next as its reported that Ajax can't afford to keep him.

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28 May 2024 16:10:59
@JK23 - Sunderland? Local lad returns to guide them into the PL?

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28 May 2024 17:47:37
Wdw good shout that.

Not sure if he will fancy championship wages mind.

Bit of a come down in 12 months from Saudi ones.

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