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22 Aug 2021 19:51:14
Shaqs gone. Good luck to him always liked him hope he stays fit. Surely a replacement will be looked at?

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 22 Aug 2021 20:07:55
Shaq played most of his time as sub, and in the midfield, Elliot has taken that role now.


2.) 22 Aug 2021 20:29:59
Harvey sees a pass shaq never would harsh but true.


3.) 22 Aug 2021 20:36:09
Aaaah the power cube. A player I was amazed we signed who did some good things but was never someone I thought “oh no, he’s not available”. He was at absolutely the wrong club.
He needs to be the big fish in the small pond.

He will go on to score some worldies and we will look back in his time affectionately, but in reality he was always injured, to easy to counter and not incisive enough for Liverpool.


4.) 22 Aug 2021 20:51:13
Thank you for the Man Utd goals Shaq!


5.) 22 Aug 2021 21:34:55
What Bledd said.


6.) 22 Aug 2021 21:51:02
Only for the injuries I really liked shaq.

I feel this will be a comment I will use again when a few others eventually leave.

Nothing but the best wishes for shaq in his future. go show mbappe and Messi who the real superstar of ligue 1 is.


7.) 22 Aug 2021 22:02:29
Bledd. and the Barcelona win / assist ✌.


8.) 22 Aug 2021 22:18:44
I remember signing him for something like 13 mill and thought it was a great deal. Looking at it now selling for 9.5 ish he filled a gap and scored a few good goals and not a bad deal I suppose. Elliot easily fills the space and more. Good luck to shaq and wish him all the best in the future!


9.) 22 Aug 2021 22:24:10
To be fair acered, Shaq could see a pass. What he lacked that Elliott doesn't is quite simply work rate and mobility. Technical gifts and vision weren't his downfall in my opinion. Football is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration. The great man Cruyff once said that in football, you spend 87 minutes without the ball, and that those minutes are more important than the 3 minutes you have it.

Elliott works 10 times harder defensively than Shaq, and he works incredibly hard off it to always give his team mates an option for a pass. When he gets the ball he turns to face up the defence and he just runs at them. It caused havoc against Burnley. His direct play won us several corners, it won a lot of free kicks in the middle of the park, Mee even had to chop him down once on the edge of the area, another time it led to the Mane goal, and we also saw it lead to Salah having a shot cleared off the line.

I actually think Shaq is fully capable of playing that pass for the Salah offside goal, and we saw him play it several times for Liverpool. I can recall similar passes twice last season alone leading to 2 Jota goals. One direct to Jota and another to Trent who then rolled it across for a Jota tap in.

Elliott was literally unplayable against Burnley though. If they got tight he would spin them with a give and go, and if they backed off he'd tear them to pieces. Shaq can' do that because he either doesn't have the legs, or he simply can't be bothered. I've not seen a better debut from a teenager in a Liverpool shirt.


10.) 22 Aug 2021 23:05:09
Yeah he played a belter pass from wide left across to salah a few months back, big looping pass right onto salad foot, resulting in a great goal.
He had it in his locker for sure.


11.) 22 Aug 2021 23:08:22
Loved Shaq. He certainly wanted success, tried and wore shirt with pride. He loved Klopp. Those gazes towards him during sub talks and the hugs. Scored and tried enough to score more. Played when and where asked. Good luck.

Elliot already replaces him. Same scenario, wide creative player moved to CM. Harv will be a much better player so long as everyone gives him time and awareness of age.

So. £50m income Mr Edwards this window. £36m spent. Welll done.


12.) 22 Aug 2021 23:28:03
What WhyOWhy and MK Scouser said. He has a need to be the Messi in a team, so that if off the ball, you cut him some slack, but we all know that won't fly in a Klopp team.


13.) 22 Aug 2021 23:32:51
Best of luck Shaq. In the right system he is a quality player. I hope he has success.

{Ed0666's Note - if he stays injury free I’m sure he’ll be a total success.


14.) 23 Aug 2021 00:08:33
My Shaq memory is seeing him substituted against Barcelona and how pumped he was coming off. It meant something to him and that's all I ever need to know.


15.) 23 Aug 2021 08:10:15
Didn’t have the mentality needed to be a first teamer but awesome left foot and skills.


16.) 23 Aug 2021 10:54:24
Acered, I disagree with that.

No doubt Elliot is talented but i don't think anybody has seen enough of him at Premiership level to judge him yet. I think every red hope he fulfils his potential.

Shaq picked out some lovely passes/ through balls for us.


 

 

24 Oct 2019 08:30:06
I love Hendos energy, but he's not playing as good this season that's clear to see. Has the ox just took his position for now?

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 24 Oct 2019 10:42:36
Ffs 17 wins on the trot and 1 draw and the knives are out, hendo and gini will start against spurs,


2.) 24 Oct 2019 12:11:41
without the knives but don't you think Oxlade earned a starting spot?


3.) 24 Oct 2019 12:19:18
I don't think so yet FC8. It's reassuring to know that Ox and Keita can step in though. It really depends on the opposition and the matchups whether or not Keita or Ox will supplant Gini or Hendo.


4.) 24 Oct 2019 12:41:26
Ox might not be at a stage yet where he can handle a prolonged run of games. He has still only had about 180 minutes or so of competitive football since his injury.

Would much rather see him managed well in terms of recovery and hopefully be a big asset come the turn of the year.

Im sure the medical department already have their plan of how much game time he can take.

He definately does add something different than other players in the current squad. Needs a lot more games under his belt to be fully up to speed though.

Cant see him starting against spurs but id say a start in the arsenal game is nailed on.


5.) 24 Oct 2019 13:11:16
if we want to take another step this year and achieve the ultimate, it's essential that both oxlade-chamberlain and keita step their games up, become regulars in the midfield rotation, and provide a technical advantage that other players can't provide. we'll encounter a lot of different looks and strategies throughout the year, and it's important to have guys in the side that give us versatility to not only answer those challenges, but overcome them and throw things back at other squads that they themselves don't have answers for. ox having a strong game shouldn't lead to the suggestion that it's time for a "slumping" henderson to be replaced by him. we need them both, just as we need all of these guys, to continue to be part of a strong unit that is very difficult to be beaten by any side in the world on any day of the year.


6.) 24 Oct 2019 13:32:59
but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform? also i fail to see how 2 games in a row is a "prolonged run of games"

doing good coming off the bench or when playing with a rotated starting 11 should be rewarded with more gametime imo.

I like both Gini and Hendo but i really hope Ox and Keita gets more real chances, not just when rotating and 10minutes in the end of matches.


7.) 24 Oct 2019 14:02:42
> but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform?
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Because they know its a long season with a lot of games and they will have their chances . Klopp decides which player to use pending fitness and opposition, yesterday Ox did very well because Genk gave him the time and space he needs, which is not easy in the PL, also if you watch back, he hardly pressed, which is needed for our game in the premier league.


8.) 24 Oct 2019 17:19:25
I hope starts to really kick on, he’s the one that gets into positions and receive the ball in offensive areas that are tight. This give us so much more from an attacking perspective.


9.) 24 Oct 2019 18:01:00
Ox that is 😂😂.


10.) 24 Oct 2019 18:44:57
It's not that black and white though. Ox opens our midfield up by being so offensive, whereas Hendo doesn't open up the opposition. catch 22 formation?


11.) 24 Oct 2019 19:04:32
We really have a fascinating fetish for wanting to drop Hendo out of the team. Apart possibly from Matip, I don't think any player's position is talked about as much. Yet he keeps coming back and justifying his place.

That said, Ox deserves to start against Spurs, imo. And I think Klopp subbed him because he wants that option. Had he no intention of starting him against Spurs, he'd have probably left him on for the full 90 against Genk.

I wouldn't start Ox and Keita though, I think it'll leave us too open. Given that Fabinho should be an automatic choice at DM, there's then a space for Gini, Milner or Hendo even with Ox starting. I see merits in picking any of them.


12.) 24 Oct 2019 20:23:50
I think there's an equal argument for Keita to start as much as Ox, if you are going to base an opinion on just the last game against Genk. Keita had more passes, more dribbles and more tackles than anyone else. Yes sure, it was only Genk, but there you go. How can you successfully argue that Ox would be great against Spurs but Keita wouldn't be?

The wise thing is to do what Klopp is doing. Stick with the players that got you to the top level you are at. Tinker from time to time according to the kind of team and style being faced, and make timely substitutions during games to gain what someone on the bench can offer.

I really couldn't care a damn what a player thinks if he's not starting and sitting on the bench. It's a 25 player squad that attacks each game, not just the 11 on the field. The team, and the wins, come first.


13.) 24 Oct 2019 21:15:29
The problem is playing two holding midfielders against the back 5 / 'low-block'. I would have been happy v Utd if the shackles were off Hendo to bomb forward, late runs into the box etc to give an extra attacking option. But he doesn't seem to do that. There's no need to be so defensive against teams that defend. Fabinho can hold his own.


14.) 25 Oct 2019 02:25:00
It's about finding the right balance with consideration for the oppositions style too. Keita and ox certainly add that offensive aggression but they also left our midfield open and back 4 exposed at times. I think gini and fabinho start but I also think much might depend on wether Trent can play or if Gomez slots in to RB. I think klopp would want Henderson on that side if Trent was involved but if Gomez starts maybe OX or keita could get picked as Gomez wouldn't need as much protection with his recovery pace and lack of instruction to get too advanced as Trent does.

Either way it's great to see the depth and variation of klopps midfield options, having 2 or 3 midfielders with the ability to be starters available on the bench can let klopp change the approach hugely if needed in a game.


15.) 25 Oct 2019 10:08:35
Ox will be good for some games, hendo for others . . .


16.) 27 Oct 2019 12:43:46
The ox has definitely given klopp something to think about. It was only genk though. I'd bring him on at 60 minutes. Open the tired defence.


 

 

29 Dec 2018 21:30:39
5:1 against Arsenal. Do you know what's scary. We actually played at about 60%. We've got another gear or two!

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 30 Dec 2018 00:07:46
We got a bit of luck, the bobbled goal came at the perfect time, and very soft pen on Lovren. But if I was an arsenal fan I’d be furious. Koscienly has stolen a living for years now, can’t believe they still play him! He makes Matip look keen. He walks back to the goal after getting beaten. Mustafi is just as bad, I swear he went off ‘injured’ the last time we put a few past them. If it gets tough he gets going. They are awful at the back, other teams just know they can have a go and put them under pressure and they can get something. Hopefully people know see that with city!


2.) 30 Dec 2018 03:33:17
Would ya stop firmane, there was only one team that was going to win when arsenal went one up. Unbelievable performance.


3.) 30 Dec 2018 04:01:09
What a day lads. city next.


 

 

 

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10 Jan 2022 20:06:18
Steven Gerrard is the only footballer to retire and still be more sang about and hated than every current player.
Each club probably has more Steven Gerrard chants than any of their own legends 😂 he is head and shoulders above Henry, Cantona, Lampard, Gasgoine, Shearer, Terry Viera, Keane. They’re All forgotten about, but Gerrard is inevitable, forever relevant.

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 10 Jan 2022 21:06:50
Er - how can they all be forgotten about if you mention them in your post? Just saying … 😉.


2.) 10 Jan 2022 22:44:14
I wonder if that would change any if Villa beat us - particularly if it was at Anfield?


3.) 11 Jan 2022 00:32:13
In terms of fans singing/ chanting about them? Jeysus.


4.) 11 Jan 2022 08:40:05
All of those retired a loooong time before Stevie did (apart from Lampard and Terry) .

Why would they be singing about someone who retired 20 years ago?


5.) 11 Jan 2022 13:30:26
Why does anyone care whose singing about some other clubs manager?


6.) 12 Jan 2022 00:07:08
😁😁😁 slow day on the transfer front OMM 😁😁😁.


 

 

05 Nov 2021 14:50:51
So Bobby is injured now, a bad hamstring.
It’s not an exaggeration we seem to be picking up an injury every game which goes back to the start of last season.
Ed is it bad luck, the intensity of our game, or do we have to start looking at the medical staff.
Obviously not the impact injuries, but we’re picking up much more muscle injuries more than anyone else at this level and have been for a long time. Winter will probably have its say also.
It’s baffling really we’ve just become used to it 😂.

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{Ed001's Note - are we? Are you sure that we are? Because that seems like something you have made up in your head simply because you have no idea what kind of injury situation exists at other clubs.}


1.) 05 Nov 2021 15:22:26
LFC08, injuries happen. It's football. Let it go. Bobbie prolly pulled the same hamstring he pulled 2 months ago vs Chelsea, we don't even know. Again, let it go.


2.) 05 Nov 2021 18:05:51
Regardless of luck, we seem to have left ourselves seriously short of options for when the Afcon starts by anyone's standards.


3.) 05 Nov 2021 18:33:52
Seriously short of what Babbitty?

We will miss two forwards and one, midfielder which the club will have factored into their planning, unless they don’t know that AFCON was scheduled to happen.

I think we will only have sleepless nights if we just imagine the worst of all scenarios all the time.


4.) 05 Nov 2021 19:31:04
WDW, we will have Jota, Minamino and Origi as forward options in January depending on how long Firmino is out for. That is not worst case scenario. Worst case scenario is if some of them get injured as well. Do you seriously think that is good enough to get us through 2 games a week in January?


5.) 05 Nov 2021 19:54:09
It doesn't matter whether it's deemed good enough.
It's what Klopp has to work with that matters, anything else is pipe dreams and wishful thinking.
The remaining players get a chance to step up to the plate, it's up to them to take that chance.


6.) 05 Nov 2021 20:16:19
If Firmino is out for 4 or even 6 weeks he will be back for January.

Even if he isn’t and all three of the back-up players you mention are injured it isn’t the end of the world. We could, for instance, change the team formation. There is nothing in the rules that says we have to play 4-3-3. We could play 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 or 9-2 (the old Jose ‘Park The Bus’ formation) .

As nobody knows what the finalised arrangements are for players travelling to the completion it’s all speculation at the moment, so why worry?

The thing is the club will be planning for it and I trust JK to come up with a plan.

What matters most is our next game. West Ham are on a bit of a roll and we will need to play well to get a result. If we don’t play well this month and next month, what happens in January won’t matter mate.


7.) 05 Nov 2021 21:04:41
What 2 games a week in January? We've a league game the 2nd, 15th, and 23rd. F. A Cup is the 8th/ 9th. Champions league doesn't start again until February. Where are these mythical 2 games a week in January?


8.) 05 Nov 2021 21:19:15
I think there was a report that said with (possible) quarantine restrictions) and the need for players to travel a good period before the comp started that they might miss 8 games. The report didn’t specify which games they were though but when you light the blue touch paper …. 😁.


9.) 05 Nov 2021 22:22:58
Babbity, there’s only so many players you can have in a 25 man squad and there is only so many forwards you can have within that 25 man squad. It is the manager’s job to juggle the scenarios and determine how many players to fill each domain on the pitch as in defence, midfield and attack.

You are moaning about us leaving ourselves short in attack. We have 5 forwards within the first team already so if you wanted us to sign a new one then someone would have had to leave to make space in the squad so who would have been?


10.) 05 Nov 2021 22:29:37
End of December on 26th, 28th and 2nd Jan Oh Mane and also potential League Cup semi-finals.


11.) 05 Nov 2021 22:40:11
OliRed Origi as he is not good enough and we have known that for some time.


12.) 06 Nov 2021 03:46:58
Senegal’s first match (as things stand) is on January 11th and Egypt’s is on the 12th.

I’d be most surprised if Mane and Salah leave before Jan 3rd, given the match we have on the 2nd Jan is the return PL fixture with Chelsea.


13.) 06 Nov 2021 04:37:59
I hope you're right WDW. I read a report that some Premier League players are leaving after Christmas.


14.) 06 Nov 2021 09:57:15
Seem to remember Origi being good enough when we beat Barcelona 4-0 missing two of our recognised forwards.


 

 

05 Aug 2021 18:19:37
Seen as we have no money. There’s a guy called Messi who’s out of contract and available on a free. Decent Origi replacement.

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 05 Aug 2021 18:27:00
Nah, Messi's not fit to lace Div's boots!


2.) 05 Aug 2021 19:05:49
Would he be happy with the "Origi minutes"?


3.) 05 Aug 2021 19:29:34
I’m sure we can fit him in somewhere, he’d have to be willing to compete with Ox for the position of backup false nine though.


4.) 05 Aug 2021 20:39:04
Messi would not be a free agent per se. He would cost more in a signing on fee than we paid for Konate, plus the extortionate amount we’d have to pay on wages.

{Ed002's Note - He is a Free Agent the same as all other out of contract players.}


5.) 06 Aug 2021 00:13:16
Ed002, I understand he is a free agent but the signing on fee he would command would be more than the club can currently afford, and that’s without his wages.

{Ed002's Note - No, you are missing the point - he is a Free Agent like all other out of contract players.}


6.) 06 Aug 2021 00:45:52
Balague does not think the Premier League champions "have the financial viability to get Messi".

He told BBC Radio 5 Live: "It's not like getting someone who will earn, say, 50m euros. Whatever it is, you have to double it. But you also have to pay a signing-on fee, that could be 50-60-70m. It's a signing from another club almost.

Sorry to cut and paste Ed002 but I’m confused (doesn’t take much) . So is there no signing on fee at all as a lot of reports are saying there will be?
I understand you don’t like talking financials, and I don’t think Messi will leave Barcelona, I think Laporta is saying to La Liga “Can you afford for Messi to leave”.

{Ed002's Note - So he says he is moving to Liverpool?}


7.) 06 Aug 2021 01:17:42
No, I was just commenting on the thread that ended up being none Liverpool related. Thank you for your input Ed002, I meant no disrespect.


8.) 06 Aug 2021 09:37:12
Funny the way eveyone cowers and begs for ed002’s mercy 😂 the GOAT.


9.) 06 Aug 2021 12:48:54
Don't signing on fees get spread over the course of the contract? It's not one big lump sum is it?

{Ed002's Note - It would be a point of negotiation.}


10.) 06 Aug 2021 15:26:33
BigVirg, it’s called good manners.

{Ed025's Note - im with you funghi, i was brung up proppa as well mate.. :)


 

 

12 Jul 2021 09:59:58
Virgil Van Dijk back in training today. That’s all.

LiverpoolFC8

1.) 12 Jul 2021 10:41:26
A bit quiet on here today (Euros apart) so try testing yourselves with this question, without using Google.

When Virgil started his first ever league game outside of his native Netherlands, who was the Asian born manager in the opposition dug-out?


2.) 12 Jul 2021 10:47:32
Shinsuke nakamura.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 11:00:01
JACKMYTTON - Terry Butcher? Born in Singapore.


4.) 12 Jul 2021 11:14:50
BOOM, LoweLFC.


5.) 12 Jul 2021 11:42:57
Lowe, absolutely correct, digital hamper on its way!


 

 

18 Apr 2021 16:40:25
A lot of new noise of the Breakaway League today. Liverpool are one of the clubs, could’ve sworn on here we apparently wasn’t in the conversation.
I was usually against the idea, but I feel like with football slowly dying due to corona, VAR and all this money going around. A change might be needed somewhere.
The Question is will it revive the sport, or kill it off?

LiverpoolFC8

{Ed002's Note - Rather than having a dig at me perhaps you should of read the posts there have been - this is not coming from the "elite" clubs (which don't include Liverpool) but from one of the other options, all of which have been explained. Cretin.}


1.) 18 Apr 2021 16:52:25
I’ve never read that LFC where not in for the break away league!

All I’ve read is was Ed told us years ago that this was been talked about so fair play 02 ( I told some mates about it long ago and I robbed your credit 🤣)

I was reading the new champs league format 20024 my god it’s absolute tripe!

{Ed002's Note - It is the "elite" group of sides that does not include Liverpool. Liverpool has been involved in other discussions about options available (and even proposed project Big Foot with Manchester United a little over a year ago).


2.) 18 Apr 2021 17:32:54
I don't understand what you mean by elite clubs!
From what i've read, liverpool, man utd, barca, real, and juve.
Are they not "elite" clubs?


3.) 18 Apr 2021 17:23:42
Is the any other sports that follow a similar proposed structure Ed? I’m thinking of how basketball works in the US?

{Ed002's Note - American professional sport sits above college sports which are all but professional in many cases. Other sperts and leagues need occasional restructuring to address issues - professional football in England has too many professional sides hence you get clubs going bust. The timing with the pandemic is not good and the "elite" sides have been requested to meet this week by one club and will do so once they fully understand the UEFA changes to the plans already agreed for 2024 (which look pretty simple). Some clubs want an automatic entry to the Champions League and other benefits. UEFA will want to talk with the "elite" sides, and perhaps FIFA will aswell, so we will see what happens there - obviously some of the clubs are the same.}


4.) 18 Apr 2021 17:40:12
Its a name given to the clubs involved, maybe even by themselves. Clearly it doesn't involve all the "elite" clubs tho. I wouldn't get hung up in the title they give themselves.


5.) 18 Apr 2021 17:58:11
The impression I get is they want an NFL/ NBA system wherein no risk of relegation or missing out on European football. Quite sad really and shows where football is at these days. To be fair Ed02 has kept up posted on this for years.

{Ed002's Note - That is only the real desire of a couple of clubs - perhaps three. The "elite" sides will meet this week which will be interesting - but firts they will want to know the final details from UEFA and how the vote goes tomorrow. Being thrown out of domestic leagues will be used as leverage by the authorities to stop any small solutions like the latest being proposed going ahead.Their big concern is the "elite" clubs coming up with a grand plan - and I think they will now be open to wider discussions but certainly not with the full ECA.}


6.) 18 Apr 2021 18:17:34
I see. It all sounds quite messy. Thanks for your time Ed.


 

 

 

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14 Jan 2022 19:55:46
RN. We have a great 12/ 13 players. And the rest are either kids or not good enough.
It’s more worrying that we as a club, Won’t buy anyone.
Milner 36, Hendo 31, Thiago 30, Van Dijk 30, Matip 30, Firmino 30, Mane Salah Alisson all 30 this year.
So the concerns lie in the fact we’re going to have to replace those great players you mention. Pretty much all at once. Souness tried it. Didn’t go very well mate.

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14 Nov 2021 17:58:15
He’s flopped. Like Keita. We’ve replaced Gini a couple of times and made a bit of Twit of it.

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04 Sep 2021 12:59:43
Not surprised. Poor lad ain’t kicked a ball since Red Bull 😂.

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01 Sep 2021 18:05:12
Salah won’t sign imo. Unless we somehow win the UCL.

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31 Aug 2021 17:51:36
Phillips is better than Rhys. It’s a good thing.

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17 Jan 2022 00:04:57
It’s not going to happen, but 1 thing is for sure, Man City want that Champions League. And they will gladly throw points away to qualify for future rounds.

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14 Jan 2022 13:41:42
It’s not OTT. Its just beginning to filter through to the tv screens now
Some on here that actually watch us live have been saying all this for months, I’m glad fans are seeing it finally.
We need players.

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14 Jan 2022 13:41:42
It’s not OTT. Its just beginning to filter through to the tv screens now
Some on here that actually watch us live have been saying all this for months, I’m glad fans are seeing it finally.
We need players.

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14 Jan 2022 10:23:02
Owners are happy with Top 4. A trophy is a bonus.

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14 Jan 2022 08:36:19
100% mate. They’re all going to need replacing at the same time also. We’ve seen this before, history is repeating itself for us. Except this time we don’t have 2 decades of domination behind us.
Some of the fans on here don’t go to the game. They can’t see where we are truly at, that’s until Cara and Nev tell them.

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