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28 Aug 2026 22:45:41
Any chance of a change in subject to the actual game? I think it's a win, but Glasner has done it over us with his Palace sides.

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28 Aug 2026 13:04:25
Alllsson

Araujo-Jaquet-VVD-Kerkez
Szobo-Grav
Munoz-Wirtz-Gakpo
Isak

Hope to see that tomorrow.

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28 Aug 2026 19:05:19
One hopes it's a lot better than the 3-0 loss we had on their last PL visit with Sean Dyche in November 2025. Sangare ruled out?

Glasner is the King of the Low Block. His last visit with the Palace to Anfield was a 3-1 defeat in April 2026. Miracles do happen. Isak scored first, Wirtz got the third, and Munoz (not our WC winner) scored Palace's only goal.

Same three goal scorers for us tomorrow, hopefully.

Glasner has a poor PL record against Andoni after 5 matches, the latter has two wins, 3 draws and four clean sheets! The last time we had clean sheets was when Arne Slot went to Marks and Spencers?

24 Aug 2026 23:18:24
Would've taken the point before the game. Absolute nightmare playing there. Villa got smashed, Hull beat Utd, Spurs spent big and lost. Even City struggled. Hope Nyoni starts next game as the balance was right when he plays.

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26 Aug 2026 20:58:28
One positive overlooked, at least we came back twice from being behind. Arsenal, City had home games, Chelsea never had to leave the capital, or another home game? (Won the match with only 39% possession, another boring low block mob).

Elanga first PL goal in 33 apps, Willcock midfielder first PL goal in 66 games. A twelfth man like ours, Andoni now unbeaten in his last 17 PL games, we lick our wounds and move on! It's always darkest before the dawn.

24 Aug 2026 09:17:10
I know we need a new midfielder and people want an all action number 6 type, but I feel we need a Fabinho type, someone just to sit in front of our back four. We need an anchor at the base of our midfield to let our attacking players have a stable platform to give us a strong foundation to start with.


Yesterday we should have won that game easily because we dominated, but were so open to the counter attack and this has been the same ever since Fabinho's legs went on him in his last season for us.

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24 Aug 2026 13:54:58
Isn't that what Endo was brought for? He did well for Klopp.

24 Aug 2026 14:32:19
BigHsiryApe,
Endo is crap, mate. He was already slow, and is even slower now he is older. Ask yourself, would Endo even get on the bench at any other top 6 side? The answer is no.

24 Aug 2026 16:06:37
I feel Endo was more a Milner replacement rather than a Fabinho one, someone who can cover lots of positions and be a good squad player.
We have never replaced Fabinho, and we have been fairly open ever since his legs went.

24 Aug 2026 17:27:24
Endo had about 10 good games in 3 seasons, it's a miracle he's still lingering around with Tsimikas, Elliott and Chiesa.

24 Aug 2026 20:16:50
Yes, a Fab type with limited offensive ambition that can sit sit at the base and drop into defence when needed. Would make the attacking full backs less of a liability as well.
Ultimately, though, the players just need to put in a feckin tackle. Need to get them out of this Slot style stand off defending.

24 Aug 2026 09:15:54
I thought Jacquet and Munoz were the two positives from yesterday - in particular for Jacquet given he hasn't played in so long I thought he was our best CB and show how good he could be in progressing the ball up the pitch - he's happy to make progressive passes as opposed to keeping it safe the whole time.

When we scored our first goal yesterday it was the first and only spell in the game where we passed direct and quickly forward through the lines. We didn't do enough of that yesterday in the midfield.

Let's hope there is some serious business done this week because otherwise I think we will be in for a pretty erratic season unfortunately.

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24 Aug 2026 15:22:58
We were passing directly and quickly forward in the first 5mins of the game too before Newcastle scored. That seemed to knock our confidence back a bit though, and we reverted to the slow and tentative football that was reminiscent of last season.



Newcastle had one gameplan that they executed fairly well imo. They sat back, soaked up pressure, and when they won possession, they tried to play it to Elanga as soon as they possibly could to run at us.

25 Aug 2026 19:49:25
Thought Koumas done well as well, tbf. Looked keen to impress at least. Could've had excited touches, but some tidy ones too, and brought energy, at least.

23 Aug 2026 22:09:55
Didn’t get a chance to watch the game but listened in. Was wondering what everyone thought of our intensity? Didn’t sound like we fought for second balls. Lots of work to do, but are we heading in the right direction?

{Ed025's Note - what intensity?..

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24 Aug 2026 07:44:51
As honest as ever ED025

{Ed025's Note - i just never seen any of it Dave..

24 Aug 2026 09:18:02
Yeah. Like 25 says, players reverted back to the intensity they showed last season. The pace and press that we showed in pre-season was non-existent.

23 Aug 2026 21:48:49.
We don’t have any ball winners in midfield. Both Newcastle goals saw their players strolling through the middle of the pitch with no-one putting a tackle in.
We need a disciplined player who will sit in front of the defence and close up the middle of the park.



It was a scrappy game, typical for 2 teams starting out with a new manager. The only thing which was glaringly obvious is the hole in the middle of our team.

Forget Barcola, sort out the weak middle of the team.

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23 Aug 2026 23:36:10
Agree, Ron. It's the biggest issue in our team right now... More than the wings or fullback issues.

24 Aug 2026 01:40:17
When we have two wingers with genuine pace, who can beat a man and run in behind, a lot of other things will fall into place. I agree we need a specialist defensive midfielder though. It is obvious Gravenberch doesn't want to play there. He was the one giving it away twice on the edge of their box, and leaving the big gap.

Bring a number 6 in and let him take his chance and compete with Szobozlai, Wirtz, and Macca further forward. He won't get as many games, but too bad if he won't stick to his position.

24 Aug 2026 05:44:55
I was disappointed with that tbh, Kemlyn, on Gravenberch. I was paying half the attention tbf and only watched like literally that first half for all pre season, so I cant tell what happened for the other games, but I thought he was mainly staying back.

On today's game, with him also joining the attack, the midfield again was missing on the counter.

Hopefully it's a first game, still needing to readjust, but we really cant be having all 3 just joining the attack with no one covering behind. Someone shouldev dropped at least, but that didnt happen, I think. Just too easy for that direct pass in the middle on a counter.

24 Aug 2026 08:16:02
I agree with Ken, all three of our midfielders instinctually want to go forward and not sit, this is the issue. As soon as we equalized the first time we looked threatening and they looked vulnerable albeit only for a couple of minutes. Then we had a brain fart, and back to square one.

Like others have said, a couple of speedy wingers and some midfield discipline and this team can start evolving. Rio should never play right wing again, he's just not good enough there. Why are we buying a winger who's just had surgery and is out till December? Surely this is some sort of joke?

24 Aug 2026 14:39:53
Even at amateur level, you know if your midfield partner runs forward, it's up to you to hold back. It's not rocket science. Yet, here we have two players on almost £300 grand a week who can't suss it out. It is a waste of time, Gravenberch going forward, as he gets a nose bleed every time he gets near the opposition box.

For their first goal, he had Szobozlai running free to his right, but played a stupid ball to a Newcastle player. That Newcastle side won't finish in the top 10, by the way, and we made them look good.

24 Aug 2026 20:19:03
Thing is, other than those mistakes Grav made, I genuinely thought he did alright. He's great at receiving the ball and turning his man, breaking the midfield lines to start attacks. The issue is, he then needs to pass, stop and hold his ground, but he almost never does!

23 Aug 2026 21:35:57
Whilst I think it’s obvious that we need a ball winning midfielder - I don’t see that solving any issues by itself. Our issue is more around the balance of our midfield 3 and at times both Dom and Wirtz are too far apart and leave huge gaps.

In the first half they were both closing down opposition full backs, with our wide players falling back to our full backs. Loads of room to get played around.

And, tin hat and body armour being put on, Dom has no sense of what is around him at all when he’s defending. The number of times he moves into a space and either leaves his man or doesn’t look around to see who to pick up is unreal.



This can be fixed with coaching and having everyone working on it - until that’s done our back 4 will remain helplessly exposed.

But, coupled with getting a better defensive shape as a 3, Andoni won’t be able to inject them with the desire to put in a challenge or take a yellow for the team.

Fingers crossed it comes good but it maybe time to acknowledge that at this point in time our midfield 3 isn’t as good as we think, or would like.

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24 Aug 2026 01:48:57
Been saying all summer we were too weak in midfield. Until that's remedied we're not winning anything.

24 Aug 2026 08:28:38
Will Isak ever get back to being the player he was for Newcastle?
He contributed nothing to the team yesterday, and it's a worry.
I know he's been injured and had a long spell without playing, but how long will it take.

24 Aug 2026 17:32:00
Dom is an attacking midfielder. He has been since academy level, you aren't going to coach in out of him. It was a ridiculous decision by the manager to play him where he did. Imagine Klopp decided to play Ox as a DM beside Keita, with Shaqiri ahead of them. How would that work?

23 Aug 2026 21:09:38
What about our fullbacks, lads.
Kerkez got away with a full poor season last year which fell under the excuse of slot. The lads' end product and delivery is soo poor, then you're reminded his competition is timikas. Kerkez is extremely lucky of his spot.


I'm not too bothered on Frimpong. He's not a proper fullback and he was never a signing I thought we should have sought. Bradleys hopefully back by October.
Right fullback is actually decent atm for cover. It's the lb position. We've two extremely average players.

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24 Aug 2026 21:36:28
Right back is a huge hole. Frimpong can't play there. Bradley isn't really that good either, he's never really kicked on after breaking into the team under Klopp. I think he's a good cover option, but we need a starting right back badly. Sell Frimpong/Tsimikas, buy two full backs and have Bradley/Kerkez as cover.

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