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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?
Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?
Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?
1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.
2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.
3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.
4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.
5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)
{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.
6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.
It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.
{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.
7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.
8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.
9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.
10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.
13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.
1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.
2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.
3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!
4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!
5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.
6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?
7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.
8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.
26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert
Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.
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15 Jun 2025 17:17:21
Nice vid of all 245 Salah goals on the club's youtube channel.
Cos I'm bored, I checked who assisted them all. 44 were penalties, 40 were unassisted (ie. last touch off an opponent) and 4 I couldn't see who assisted them cos of the editing.
Firmino is the player who assisted Salah the most with 21 assists. Followed by Alexander-Bellingham with 14, and Mané with 13. Not much surprising there, although I thought TAB's relative longevity at the club would see him assist Salah the most.
Out of the current crop, Jones and Nunez have provided the most assist for Salah with 11 each, although Robbo, Jota and Gakpo aren't far behind with 10, 9 and 8.
1.) 15 Jun 2025 17:34:39
Alexander Bellingham ??.
2.) 15 Jun 2025 17:48:34
Is that Harry’s new nickname?
3.) 15 Jun 2025 18:06:25
The Alexander Bellingham isn't an accident either since he later uses the acronym TAB.
4.) 15 Jun 2025 18:57:11
245 is an incredible number, I don't suppose you also counted left foot, right foot or header?
5.) 15 Jun 2025 22:20:12
I'd also like to know how he celebrated each goal. DID he have a smile or was he scowling and trying to send a message to club management and FSG. ?.
6.) 15 Jun 2025 22:40:42
Scowled on all of them cos his head is turned by Real Madrid, or has been made an offer he "can't refuse" by a Saudi Arabian club.
Thought of Alexander-Bellingham on the fly as I was typing it cos 'Trent' or 'TAA' just doesn't feel right after all his bawling on the final day before effing off to RM and confirming that he was preparing for the move for the entire season.
7.) 15 Jun 2025 23:08:46
SR, there's no real point on dwelling on TAA that much anymore. Part of history and water under the bridge, and all of that.
But I share your sentiments. Definite sour taste in my mouth, the way his departure was carried out. He knew he was leaving easily a year ago and the club should have sold him in January. There's a big difference between getting 20 million from Real for a transfer in January, and getting 10 million at the end of the season the way they throw scraps at street dogs.
8.) 16 Jun 2025 00:04:34
On Trent, a few weeks ago i was fuming but with how the club has attacked the transfer window and his carry on on the bus parade and Real unveiling i can only laugh at him now. This has been sorted for a long time and he's not even worth getring annoyed about, and this comes from someone that defended him for years. We are better off rid.
9.) 16 Jun 2025 09:07:08
I prefer Anaconda Arnold.
23 May 2025 18:47:01
There aren't any nice mountains around Leverkusen, are there?
1.) 23 May 2025 19:30:13
Welsh mountains are incredible.
2.) 23 May 2025 19:32:32
Nice one SR ?.
3.) 23 May 2025 19:46:55
SR - don’t jinx it lad.
4.) 23 May 2025 20:18:45
He will be attending Sundays game strong rumour has it, would be surprised as this should be Arne's day only! unless Arne sent the only sincere invite which he would have done as a mark of repect, and Jurgen has duly accepted Arne's only sincere invite as a mark of respect also.
It's Arne's day if he's happy, then everyone else is also.
24 Mar 2025 09:12:21
Little trivia quiz.
Since the introduction of permanent squad numbers, name a Liverpool player who's had two different numbers, both whilst playing for us, in the same season.
I can think of two examples. There could be more.
1.) 24 Mar 2025 10:50:22
Tricky one that mate, I can't think of one! not in the same season.
2.) 24 Mar 2025 10:59:33
Robbie Fowler had five: 14 -> 23 -> 12 -> 11 -> 9
(He also reused 2 of these in his second spell: 11 -> 9)
3.) 24 Mar 2025 11:11:53
In one season Shipley?
4.) 24 Mar 2025 11:55:10
Harvey Elliott. He had 46 when he joined and took the no. 19 a couple of years after Sadio took the no. 10 after Cou left.
5.) 24 Mar 2025 11:56:31
Did collymore have a couple?
6.) 24 Mar 2025 11:59:57
Ooo borini?
7.) 24 Mar 2025 12:00:03
Carroll was 9 in domestic competitions and 39 in Europa League in his first season as Torres had already been registered as 9 in Europa that season.
8.) 24 Mar 2025 12:08:23
Mane must be one? He took coutinhos nr 10 when he left and had like 18, 19 before?
9.) 24 Mar 2025 12:16:44
I going to guess but when Gerrard played with nr 17 and took 8 that was during one season?
10.) 24 Mar 2025 12:17:07
Did Aurelio wear 2 different shirt numbers in one season? 12 and 6 maybe.
11.) 24 Mar 2025 12:19:05
I can't think of any who used 2 numbers in the same season.
Obviously Firmino went 11 to 9, Ali 13 to 1, Gomez 12 to 2, Nunez 27 to 9 etc. but I don't think any wore 2 different ones in the same season. Didn't think you'd be allowed to.
12.) 24 Mar 2025 12:20:50
I can't think of any who changed their number midway through the season. You'd have to tell us the answer SR :)
13.) 24 Mar 2025 13:04:18
Babbity Rabbity's got one. Andy Carroll took no. 9 when he arrived, but due to European rules he couldn't wear no. 9 in the Europa League cos Torres had already used it for us that season. So he was no. 39 or no. 29. Can't remember which.
The other one I was thinking of was Pepe Reina. He was normally no. 25, but the Club World Cup at the time required teams to name a 23 man squad and then number them 1 - 23. So he was no. 12 in the CWC.
And actually, now that I look, there were two more players in the CWC squad that season who didn't have their regular number, because their regular number was greater than 23. See can you guess them.
14.) 24 Mar 2025 14:01:38
I got it wrong. Carroll was 29 not 39.
15.) 24 Mar 2025 14:52:44
Interesting information that 'Something Red'.
Is Sinama Pongolle one? He was No.24 and I remember him playing in that just before going to Blackburn.
16.) 24 Mar 2025 15:39:04
Yes Gunn, Sinama-Pongolle was no. 11 in the CWC.
17.) 24 Mar 2025 17:24:48
Was the other one Colin’s son? Stephen Warnock?
18.) 24 Mar 2025 18:33:54
Was Sami hypia one as well maybe 12 or something before he became 4?
19.) 24 Mar 2025 18:53:09
StEtienneAmen. Yep. It was Warnock. No. 2 for the CWC, whilst regularly no. 28.
16 Mar 2025 18:35:00
Well there's two ways of looking at things. Either:
A) The team leading the league by 12 points and the top scorer and assist leader in the Prem are, in fact, terrible.
or
B) We got punished for not rotating enough. The likes of Elliot, Endo, Quansah and Chiesa should've at least started against Southampton.
It may not have made the difference, but it would've given us some chance.
We're going to win the league anyway.
1.) 16 Mar 2025 18:49:07
Probably the reason we’re winning the league is because we haven’t rotated much, but it’s cost us in the other competitions where we’re now looking jaded.
We’ve often not been outstanding in the league but have been the best and most consistent team. We’ve ground out results as other teams have faltered. In the cups with PSG we came up against a better team over two legs, Newcastle wanted it more today, and least said about Plymouth the better. That’s how it goes in knock out or one off games.
2.) 16 Mar 2025 18:50:46
Other observations:
We missed Trent's passing for the whole game, as well as his crossing ability near the end. We'll be just fine when he goes to Madrid though, cos Sky Sports have told me he can't defend.
Having Jota on the pitch is like playing with 10 men against anyone decent. When was the last time he scored? Was it against Notts Forest? I get Nunez is flawed and not good enough either, but at least there's some possibility he'll graft and contribute something. Jota's started 3 of the last 4, including 3 huge knockout games and has been entirely anonymous in all of them. He actually looks like he's playing with an injury.
Elliot should've come on in the 55th minute, at least he threaded a few decent balls in around their box.
3.) 16 Mar 2025 19:12:41
Jota was crap tonight. Nunez came on and was just as crap.
09 Mar 2025 18:49:48
Check out the highlights from Spurs v Bournemouth. Kerkez' run and cross for Bournemouth's first goal reminded me of peak Robbo.
1.) 10 Mar 2025 14:20:37
The fella has openly said he's a united fan, can we stop pushing this one please?
2.) 10 Mar 2025 14:50:12
Is that an issue?
Carra was a blue and played for Liverpool.
Atletico have players signed from Real Madrid (like Marcos Llorente) .
Doesn’t stop them performing for you. They are PROFESSIONAL athletes, they’re not going to score an own goal because they supported united as a kid.
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08 Jun 2025 13:03:15
That's bait.
02 Jun 2025 10:08:59
It's all a smokescreen anyway Bean. John Henry is going to spend the £110m on ivory backscratchers instead of on the club.
FSG bad. FSG OUT!
01 Jun 2025 21:46:02
I'd carry Barcola to Liverpool from Paris on my back for us to get him, but I cannot believe PSG are going to let him go.
Surely they can give him enough games with a 4 into 3 approach with him, Dembele, Kvaratshkelia and Doue?
01 Jun 2025 19:45:43
Maybe no one who can afford his wages wants him because he's made of crisps Vango? Can't force another club to sign a player.
01 Jun 2025 18:33:04
Collins looks shoddy any time I've seen him play, MK, albeit that's mostly for Ireland who are a mess.
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18 Jun 2025 13:27:37
Can we offer them Nunez as part ex?
16 Jun 2025 23:24:45
Don't forget every Everton forward this side of Dixie Dean, Hessle.
16 Jun 2025 21:10:27
Nunez is the better player overall, but if I needed a goal in the last 10 minutes of a crucial match, I'd go with Origi.
16 Jun 2025 16:28:28
This whole business of tapping up never really made sense to me.
Ed002 used to tell us (and I have no reason to think he was wrong) that a club can talk to the agent of a player at another club, and agree some basic outlines of a prospective deal without the permission of the player's club, but can't talk to the player himself directly without getting permission from the club? The latter being tapping up, but the former being fine.
It never really made a lot of sense to me, as legally you could get a deal 80% agreed without talking to player. Really both should be either banned or allowed.
15 Jun 2025 22:40:42
Scowled on all of them cos his head is turned by Real Madrid, or has been made an offer he "can't refuse" by a Saudi Arabian club.
Thought of Alexander-Bellingham on the fly as I was typing it cos 'Trent' or 'TAA' just doesn't feel right after all his bawling on the final day before effing off to RM and confirming that he was preparing for the move for the entire season.