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22 May 2025 08:30:49
New 4 year deal offered to 19 year old academy CB, Wellity Lucky. Interest from Spain and Germany in him apparently. We'll probably see a bit of him in pre-season if he opts to stay and sign the new deal.

1.) 22 May 2025 09:20:44
The pen pushes are finally waking up.

2.) 22 May 2025 09:39:48
He's waiting to see whos brought in and whos sold.

3.) 22 May 2025 10:00:35
What are you talking about @Mark?

4.) 22 May 2025 10:17:40
With a name like that, it makes a lot of sense to sign him up.

5.) 22 May 2025 10:54:25
Well lucky
Up the pool.

6.) 22 May 2025 08:53:35
Can play RB aswell I believe.

16 May 2025 11:58:53
Where have these rumours of Nkunku come from? I know the data team wanted Nkunku or Isak around the same time we bought Nunez but surely the data has been updated since then! He's been worse for Chelsea than Nunez has been for us. Thought I'd pass on the rumour anyway, but here's hoping it's total garbage.

1.) 16 May 2025 12:16:06
Nnnnoooo please no!

2.) 16 May 2025 12:42:39
Originated from foot mercato in France, 'according to sources' type nonsense click bait article. Supposed interest also from Bayern and Newcastle.

3.) 16 May 2025 13:12:12
Nkunku won't be moving to LFC. His 11 million per season wage he has in place alone would prevent that.

That is assuming he doesn't buck the trend and take a lower wage for game time.

4.) 16 May 2025 13:22:40
Here’s hoping that Chelsea are stuck with him until his contract runs out in 2029! May he be the first of many players on lengthy contracts that they get stuck with!

5.) 16 May 2025 13:42:43
I’m not certain it’s his wages that will prevent his moving to Liverpool, it’s the fact his legs are made out of dried noodles and he’s not that good at football.

Remember that lad Werner? When he played in Germany pheww Turbo Tim right? We really missed the boat letting Chelsea get him whilst we got Jota.

Nkunku is the same. An injury prone decent footballer absolutely not shaped to play Premier League football.

6.) 16 May 2025 13:48:54
Nkunku is a very good player. has his injuries but if he could overcome them. I'd take him at Liverpool no problem.

7.) 16 May 2025 14:32:35
Well Stromgodset I will create a deity, imbue it with power and pray to it that you never decide who Liverpool sign.

Jackson has been injured a lot, Nkunku was fit whilst Jackson was injured, they played Palmer as a false 9 instead.

The Chiesa experiment has failed, let’s not go for the Nkunku experiment next.

Across the last two seasons:

Nkunku: 38 Premier league games - 6 goals = 0.16 goals per game
Nunez: 64 Premier league games - 16 goals = 0.25 goals per game
Jota: 46 Premier League games - 16 goals = 0.36 goals per game

Both Nunez and Jota are superior to him. You probably don’t think so because they play for us already.

8.) 16 May 2025 15:12:36
Why oh why. I get what you mean but when Nkunku was fit , he was banging the goals in, good all round player . his injuries have been disruptive to him . but not saying we should buy him but if he came, I wouldn't be disappointed.

9.) 16 May 2025 15:49:01
Nkunku isn’t up to the premier league, too weak and too frail. We dodged the bullet once, let’s not make the mistake of thinking there’s an effective player there because there isn’t. He’s on £200’000 a week until 2029. He should remain Chelsea’s expensive mistake.

10.) 16 May 2025 16:05:15
Dude, 38 games is a decent sample set though. I do feel we see players score in other leagues (and he wasn’t amazingly prolific) and believe it’s the same here. It’s not.

Kuyt
Werner
Schurlle
Kezman
Morata

Nkunku has none of the attributes you’d need over here. Felix is the same.

I am certain had Darwin gone to Dortmund and not to Liverpool we’d be looking at his goals and demanding we sign him. Nkunku is also 28 in November.

Even a player like Sesko is very hit and miss. He disappears in game and misses a lot of good chances.

The only player we should go all in on for a million reasons is Alvarez. Atleti aren’t getting CL footy. He won’t play in the Europa. He is perfect for us.

11.) 16 May 2025 16:50:51
Ed2 said once that he was a player Liverpool had looked at years ago. I get the feeling it is a lazy bit of reporting going back to that time.

13 May 2025 10:06:55
Reports surfacing from Italy today that a deal with Atalanta is being explored with Federico Chiesa and Ademola Lookman involved. Unclear whether it would be a swap or two separate deals (seems more likely) . We know Hughes is apparently very in tune with the Italian market so this might have legs.

Lookman as been playing as a striker this season, but he plays mostly in a 3-5-2 up top with a 6ft plus striker partner (Retegui) . He can obviously play across the frontline though and crucially, qualifies as homegrown. He has 20 goals and 7 assists this season in 39 games. He's come on a lot as a player under Gasperini. Another who'd likely go to the AFCON though.

He is a big game player though. Since his hattrick in last seasons Europa league final vs Leverkusen, he's scored against Real Madrid x1, Roma x1, Napoli x3, Juventus x1 and AC Milan x1. You can never have too many players who show up when it really matters.

Possibly one to keep an eye on, given our potential loss of multiple Homegrown players this summer (Kelleher, Trent, Gomez, Quansah, Elliott etc) .

1.) 13 May 2025 11:24:48
I would LOVE if we signed Lookman, really good player. And wouldn't break the bank either. But Afcon is a problem!

2.) 13 May 2025 11:26:10
Brilliant, this is a wonderful rumour including the classic “sources say”.

I miss these. Remember Aouoar the boy with all the vowels we were signing from Lyon? Now we are after a 27 year old who will be 28 in October to booster the area we have real strength in.


Are we after another keeper as well? Five keepers on the bench.

I am hearing (another classic) that FSG are ready to push the button on Phillips Mexes and Simao in a double transfer. They’ve been spotted in Ryan Babels BabelCopter flying over Ainsdale.

3.) 13 May 2025 11:32:46
I can get onboard with Ademola Lookman to replace Jota and Chiesa, as long as we still replace Darwin with a top class no9. Almost seems sensible.

4.) 13 May 2025 11:40:33
Lookman? No thanks, mediocre Everton reject, the fact he’s knocking 28 should be a red flag on its own. Plus there’s the fact he couldn’t take fair criticism (and it was fair criticism as he is a terrible penalty taker) from his manager over missing a penalty which helped to cost the match, suggests he’s got a fragile ego. I’d hope we can do better than him, he seems like the kind of signing Spurs make.

5.) 13 May 2025 11:57:56
Ah he goes to AFCON. Forgot about that. Scratch that then.

6.) 13 May 2025 11:58:37
He plays from the left mainly.
Same place as Diaz and Gakpo.

He’s 28

Yeah, let’s go all in.

7.) 13 May 2025 12:00:13
Ederson would be the one to part-ex for. Get some muscle in there, samba style.

8.) 13 May 2025 12:02:23
Give it a rest Viktor, his manager is a well known **** buddy! Some of his managers comments over the years are shocking. Like German football in the 90's some people are from a very different close minded era.

9.) 13 May 2025 12:03:03
You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel now @Viktor. What’s wrong with being 28 ( we just re-signed a 32 and a 33 year old) snd if the player is crap at taking penalties we just don’t chose him as a penalty taker or am I missing something?

10.) 13 May 2025 12:06:15
But Atalanta would want money plus Chiesa for Lookman. A straight swap would be okay for me.

11.) 13 May 2025 12:11:43
Not for me either, might be having a purple patch but I’d rather keep Chiesa.

12.) 13 May 2025 12:14:03
I’m loathe to agree with VV but Liverpool don’t tend to buy 28 year old players. Thiago was a Klopp passion project. Extending contracts is very different to a transfer.

Also, which Universe are you all in where Lookman is in anyway good enough for Liverpool. He’s not a patch on Gakpo OR Diaz.

In your Universe is Taco day also on Tuesday?

13.) 13 May 2025 12:20:33
I think you probably haven't seen him play in years, Viktor, again your use of hyperbole to mask a lack of any real analysis of the player is evident. So bloody what if he is an Everton reject? Salah is a Chelsea reject. That players like lookman and Salah bounce back from difficult periods in their careers to become African player of the year and win trophies should be seen as merits in the players favour rather than otherwise.

14.) 13 May 2025 12:37:13
See this is frustrating.

“I bet you haven’t seen him play” now I won’t speak for anyone else and I know that wasn’t aimed at me, but yes - I have.
Go watch Danjuma at Villareal, looked wonderful.
The Premier League is a level above. The fourth and fifth worst teams in it are competing for the Europa League trophy. Chelsea will win the conference league with their u23 side. That’s the vast ocean of difference. Lookman is a fairly decent player - but really, you’d look at Chiesa, see his 37 minutes played all year and think “let’s get him instead of our best attacker” and you think this reflects well on Lookman.

That’s like looking at a 17 plate Mondeo with 160,000 miles on the clock and offering a Ferrari Roma for it. Math ain’t mathing lads.

15.) 13 May 2025 13:16:30
Rather just give Chiesa and actual chance than replacing him with another squad player personally.

16.) 13 May 2025 13:40:27
Why0why - And yet no PL team in the CL final. PL may be the most competitive from top to bottom but let's not act like it's the be all end all of football. Most of our squad has come from these "lesser" leagues and I think we've done alright.

I'm not saying let's go for Lookman but these league comparisons and "we need prem proven" stuff are going a bit too far.

17.) 13 May 2025 13:50:59
City are not City. We, Villa and Arsenal lost to the team, a super team, who will win it.

I mean, that’s not really something that bears scrutiny. Look at how far English clubs have gotten over the last 10 years, Christ we went to three of four finals.

We are arguably the second/ joint best team in Europe. We won this league at a canter. To be good enough for Liverpool is a very high bar. You put Diaz in Atalantas side, he’d be signed by a major club after six months. It’s really hard to find talent at a level that would make it here. Nunez was a massively sought after player…. hasn't been what we hoped.

To think a 28 year old who is decent (but no one else wants him and they’ll swap him for Chiesa) is Liverpool level shows an under appreciation for who we are.

I know people are craving signings, desperate for any signing, take a punt on any player just please scratch that transfer itch, but Lookman ain’t it.

Put Sterling in Atalanta, he’d shine. Nkunku at Inter, he’d shine.

18.) 13 May 2025 14:14:56
I usually just ignore why0why posts. Lookman 3-4 season purple patch. Like Salah is a one season wonder.

19.) 13 May 2025 14:16:35
In his last 3 seasons he has 15, 17 and 20 goals. Similar if not slightly better numbers than Chelsea reject Salah was racking up in the same league. That’s some extended purple patch that! Won African POTY and a Europa League in that timeframe too. He’s only 27 and he’s on an obvious upward trajectory, he’s not some washed up wreckage ? with all due respect Victor, last summer when I said Raphinha would be a good signing you called him a bang average Leeds reject. Your ability to spot talent is extremely questionable at best.

20.) 13 May 2025 15:41:48
And don’t forget MK who can’t forget another Victor classic at the start of the season when he said Liverpool won’t make top 10,because and I quote “Salah can’t run, Diaz dad wants him gone and Konate is made of crisps”, without a doubt one of the most knowledgeable poster on this site.

21.) 13 May 2025 15:54:38
And how many goals has Lukaku got over the years in Italy.
Hjolund and Zirkzee were sought after.

Lookman is 28, Liverpool won’t pay for that profile, they simply won’t.

But yeah, he’s that good Atalanta want to swap him for Chiesa. No one else is into him, but they want to improve their squad by losing him for Chiesa.

Seems perfectly logical.

22.) 13 May 2025 16:58:33
If chiesa heads back to Italy his most likely destinations are Napoli and Fiorentina. Napoli have scouted, can afford but aren't sure.

Fiorentina are sure but can't afford.

23.) 13 May 2025 18:17:47
I hate us trying to deal with the Italian clubs for our players. They only want a loan with an option to buy and rarely take it up. Or they try to renegotiate the price. Easier to just let him go for free if Chiesa will hand in a transfer request.
He was fantastic in Italy before his injury but I doubt that Chiesa will ever make it in the PL, unfortunately.

24.) 13 May 2025 18:30:30
Zirkzee I think is actually still a very good player, he needs the right system and the right environment to thrive. I watched bologna a lot last year and he was excellent as a false 9/ 10 linking the play. I think he could still do well for a good team.

And nkunku would not shine at inter. Are you saying he's the same level as lautaro and thuram? Chelsea aren't even the same level of team as inter. And that sterling would dislodge lookman and de ketelaere? I think your disrespect for other leagues and players is a bit much to be honest, there are excellent players in other leagues and not everybody is lining up to come to the PL.

And mk, I will never forget viktor's comments on raphinha. I was kind of hoping Barcelona would win the cl and raphinha the ballon d'or for that very reason lol.

25.) 13 May 2025 20:37:30
Inter - play in a league.
Inter are good. The league isn’t.

And Zirkzee is good. Oh that’s so very, very amusing. Superb. Thanks.

26.) 14 May 2025 00:25:09
@Why0, totally agree with you about the level Liverpool are at and the need to bring in quality players.

I disagree, however, about fans judging players. It’s the club’s job to determine if a player has the quality to improve the overall squad. Most of the time it’s easy - if you pick off the top shelf, like Ali or VVD you pay a premium for buying proven class. Other players - lower down in the pecking order - are harder to find and from a fan’s perspective might not be considered ‘good enough’. That’s the club has the scouting team in place and people like Hughes. Say what you want about him but we are really keen on buying two players he brought into the PL that most of us - certainly me - had never really heard of 18 - 24 months ago. In this case perhaps someone at the club sees something in the lad that, in the context of the planned squad, he could improve that we can’t.

27.) 14 May 2025 01:50:48
Just re-read what I wrote. and need to clarify what I meant. When I say I disagree about fans judging players, I should explain a bit more. Of course fans should judge players - that’s a big part of what fans should do. BUT, fans’ judgements need to be taken with a pinch of salt, as it’s only really the club’s judgement that matters.

28.) 14 May 2025 02:37:10
Has it not occurred to you that maybe zirkzee has been used wrong by both ten hag and amorim (and even then he has been their most important attacking player besides amad under amorim)? Gakpo didn't look great as a false 9 under klopp either. Your comments about players totally in isolation of whether they would actually fit those respective teams makes no sense to me- zirkzee is a case in point, but would nkunku do the hard miles against inter when he shows no interest in doing so at Chelsea, can sterling do the relentless man marking at Atalanta? 'shining' means you perform both on and off the ball, every inter player has shown that on the highest stages.

10 Jan 2025 13:08:25
A few reports out of Germany are saying that we're interested in Joshua Kimmich again. Either a pre-contract for June, or £10m to get him this month. It would make sense given the desire for a ball playing defensive midfielder and the possibility that Trent might go and leave us short at RB. Just passing on a rumour, I know how much you dislike him, Victor!

1.) 10 Jan 2025 13:46:49
He is on €400k wages. Absolutely no chance. We have more chnace to land the Boxer Joshua than the footballer.

2.) 10 Jan 2025 13:55:35
Obviously he is a magnificent footballer, but he is on big money and very much lacks pace.

3.) 10 Jan 2025 14:10:58
Position wise it would make sense. But no way we would pay those sort of wages.

4.) 10 Jan 2025 14:13:37
He’ll be 30 next month and wants the thick end of £400k+ a week (he’s on £350k at the moment by all accounts), that should be the end of the discussion.

Last thing we want is an over rated, over paid, way past his best player from Bayern, I’d hope we’d have learnt from wasting money on Thiago. He’d get absolutely battered in the premier league as he’d not have the time he gets on the ball in Germany, he’d struggle dealing with the pace and physicality, if he was playing right back any wingers would have a field day against him as he has no pace. He’s also one of the ring leaders of the notoriously toxic culture at Bayern along with Neuer, Muller and Sane.

Thankfully it’s silly season so hopefully there’s nothing in it. There are far better midfielders out there than him, and it is fair to say that right now, Bradley is a better right back. There is no reason to consider him.

5.) 10 Jan 2025 14:34:27
I think the only reason to consider Kimmich personally is if slot wants somebody to approximate what Trent can do inverting into midfield and dictating play from the full back position. Kimmich has an excellent passing range and can hit them long or short, but for me the plan probably should be (and looks like it might be) for the full back to play a more traditional role defensively while underlapping and overlapping in offense and staying wide.

I think one of the reasons we haven’t got another maestro metronome type midfielder is because Trent is so central to how we play from a creative perspective. So if Trent goes (which I hope with everything that I have that he doesn’t), then the solution should not be somebody like kimmich imo but another 6 who can create from deep and dictate play but is also defensively decent.

6.) 10 Jan 2025 15:03:05
Good shout that Patrik, think you’re right as Trent recently has spent a lot of his time drifting into midfield even if tactically he hasn’t been told to, and it looks like he’s going. Earlier in the season he was more disciplined and playing wider, and we looked better for it.

Still can’t see it with Kimmich though, why would we pay those wages, he’d also get overrun in the Prem even though he’s a good footballer.

7.) 10 Jan 2025 15:35:52
No Juventus players because of Arthur and Chiesa and no Bayern players because of Thiago?
Got that and I'll add those to the ever growing list.

8.) 10 Jan 2025 15:52:25
Also no players that have ever played for, supported or admired Manchester United. No wonder we never buy anyone, the Victor approved list has about 4 players on it.

{Ed025's Note - that many?.. :)

9.) 10 Jan 2025 16:37:04
Victors team should be 5-a-side.

10.) 10 Jan 2025 18:43:43
According to the media PSG put £176m transfer offer in previously for Osimhen and the Georgian which was refused. Times passed and contracts have less time on them so the value might have shifted a bit. Either way we’d need to sell quite a four or five players to allow us to fund that, and massive wages, and a full back.

11.) 10 Jan 2025 18:49:01
@Rigsby, Can you add anybody over the age of 24 - they are too old at that age.

12.) 10 Jan 2025 20:08:34
Viktors right a lot of the time to be fair, I enjoy his posts. He cuts to the chase, sod the romance, and the rest of us apologists for why we haven’t done this or that and the near misses.

The last time we did great deals were Szob, and Grav. Macca and Endo have weaknesses but were good business as well. From what we know they were driven by Jurgen and the German interim, less data driven perhaps and more sentiment and old fashioned talent based decisions.

The other major business in the last ten years has been funded by silly sales when money was free and easy (Coutinho), or when Saudi went mad (Hendo and Fab) .

When we’ve recruited youth it’s rarely worked in the playing sense, but has made some money, and when we look for older bargains in terms of transfer fees it’s nearly always been a failure and left us with huge wages to pay injured players.

Most of what we read is probably just smoke and mirrors, much as we want to believe it. We operate best in the mid market. Robbo and Mo were the best value buys in the last twenty years, Fabinho excellent as well together with the German interim buys. VVD and Ali great, but only afforded by big sales.

13.) 10 Jan 2025 22:21:22
You think he’s right most of the time, JS? Think we’d have to beg to differ there, I often very much disagree with his assessments of players because they are sensationalist, one-sided, padded with vapid insults and don’t actually tell us anything about why they might be under consideration in footballing terms- I’m pretty sure he would have called gravenberch an arrogant waste of space, Bayern’s sloppy seconds, neither a 6, an 8 or a 10, Liverpool shopping in the bargain basement for other teams rejects before he arrived. He sometimes likes to make stuff up about players he actually does like, which probably amounts to about two or three over the last few years (ederson being an obsession) .

14.) 11 Jan 2025 00:03:25
He did call Grav that, Patrik. He also claimed that we are bargain bin shoppers and we'd sign Berge, Adama, Kone, etc. To be fair to him, I do agree that we won't sign Kimmich, Davies, or Osimhen but Viktor does tend to think in extremes, either a player is p. poor and has no right to sign for Liverpool or a player is too good and Liverpool doesn't have the balls to sign him. There's no middle ground for him.

15.) 11 Jan 2025 00:46:44
High salaried, 30 plus yo players, that's Man Utd style of signings over there. Look how they have become.

16.) 11 Jan 2025 05:51:18
Kvara would be the next Ali/ VVD level signing, which is why i believe we are genuinely in for him.

17.) 11 Jan 2025 08:18:30
Like the “by all account” @Victor - nice little disclaimer.

07 Jan 2025 15:13:12
Anis Hadj Moussa of Feyenoord is being heavily linked today, but mostly by the classic click bait media to be fair. Seems like a Liverpool type signing though for a change, rather than something made up for lots of clicks. Might be one to watch, might not, but thought I'd share it anyway. He's the lad who scored against Man City the other week and he has 6 goals and 2 assists in his last 10 games since breaking into their first team.

1.) 07 Jan 2025 16:05:47
We ain't got a pot to p@ss in, Henry has got billions of them though.

Someone needs to wake up Henry and tell him that if Forest beat us next week they are 3 points behind us with only one game in hand (Everton away)

Get the Cheque book out and support the club Henry.

2.) 07 Jan 2025 16:44:37
Jesus, does the whinging ever stop?

3.) 07 Jan 2025 16:45:31
Impressive stats MK mate, I've never heard of the lad. You seen much of him?

4.) 07 Jan 2025 17:20:38
The the clueless FSG brigade are starting to surface again ?.

5.) 07 Jan 2025 18:04:04
Those stats aren’t so impressive when you look solely at the league form, 3 goals and 1 assist in 13 league games, sounds like another Assaidi to me. Bang average Eredivisie winger.

6.) 07 Jan 2025 17:58:30
Is he a forward MK?

7.) 07 Jan 2025 19:21:17
I mean its scary actually to play a team that plays with total freedom like Forest. They already reach their target of 40pts! Anything else is a bonus. Every player in Forest team can play with freedom, creativity, abandonment! They are actually a dangerous team to play against.

I would not surprise if they get a result against us.

8.) 07 Jan 2025 20:59:37
When will some on here learn that fsg/ henry don’t run LFC.

9.) 07 Jan 2025 21:00:51
Similar profile to Salah apparently. Left footed right winger who likes to come inside. Never seen him play, just passing on a rumour as it sounded more believable than links to guys like Rodrygo and Nico Williams.

Victor, you’re including about 8 games where he came off the bench with 10-15 minutes left in your figures. Since being given a proper run it’s 8 goal involvements in 10 games, all comps. It’s a weak league but he’s doing it in the Champions League too so I don’t want to be dismissive of a talented young lad making his breakthrough. He’d definitely be coming in initially as a back up to Mo, if the rumours are true.

10.) 07 Jan 2025 22:41:03
Nottingham Forest is a counter attacking team who soaks up pressure before using their pace on the break to score goals. But Leek is describing them like they are prime Barcelona or something.

11.) 07 Jan 2025 23:04:15
Only three of those games were where he was subbed on the last 10-15 minutes, other than that it was 5 starts or an average of 45 minutes played. All three of his league goals came against clubs in the bottom 5. There are more Antony’s, Ziyech’s, Assaidi’s than there are Robben’s, Van Persie’s or Gakpo’s in the Dutch league. Quite frankly I’d rather give Doak a chance as back up than waste a non home grown spot on a potential Assaidi or Antony, he’s a non home grown player, and non home grown spaces are like gold dust and shouldn’t be wasted.

12.) 08 Jan 2025 05:16:34
@victor. that's true but it dosnt really negate what MK said. He stated "since he broke into the first team" which to be fair would equate to when he consistently started to be a starter for the first team which I reckon you can argue is really his last 6 games in the eredivisie. It also happens to correspond to when he started scoring goals. That doesn't mean you are wrong about your opinion on giving Doak a chance but does give a bit more context. However Feyenoord have a 5 year contract on him so i suspect he won't come that cheap.

13.) 08 Jan 2025 09:48:03
Well said, Phil_LFC. I'm not against giving Doak a chance either by the way, so wouldn't disagree with Victor if that was his stance on this. The fact remains that in his last 10 appearance Moussa has 6 goals and 2 assists. In the 8 before then he had zero yes, but he averaged 22 minutes per appearance in that period and didn't start a single game. I don't believe it's fair to judge a young player who was new to the club and not getting consistent minutes on that period of his season.

I have no dog in this fight ultimately, because I don't really care if we sign him or not. I've never seen him play. I just passed on a rumour and a few facts!

14.) 08 Jan 2025 10:59:54
007 - in your posts you’re saying that Musk will be able to “spend billions” and “like there’s no tomorrow” but the reality is PSR restricts spending.

As Newcastle are finding out, it doesn’t matter how much money your owners have or want to plough into the first team squad.

You’re spreading misinformation and I’m surprised so many people have up voted your posts as I thought most people would know this.

15.) 08 Jan 2025 12:02:07
@NK, I get what you’re saying, but. if Musk was buy the club, could he not do a Chelsea and spend copious amounts on players and give them 10 year contracts (I’m aware this is an exaggeration 10yr), they game out 8 year contracts for fun to circumvent to a degree the restrictions, but they often sell their youth for income.

{Ed001's Note - no, they blocked that loophole.}

16.) 08 Jan 2025 12:18:38
007 thanks for your insight into our finances.

17.) 08 Jan 2025 12:30:36
Ty Ed.

18.) 08 Jan 2025 13:01:15
Couldn’t Musk (or anyone else who took over with a similar business profile) put in place commercial arrangements through his many business contacts - ones that benefitted us commercially so long as they’re arms length and reflective of market value. He or an entrepreneur like him may be more willing or able to do that than a hedge fund, depending on their motivation for the acquisition.

19.) 08 Jan 2025 14:08:21
JordanSimon, is this not what Man City are in trouble for?

20.) 08 Jan 2025 15:00:19
Yes I think some of its related to that Otty, but I’m not sure the exact basis of all the charges. Is it partly that some of the arrangements don’t have a clear market rationale? These big businesses and corporations, and business people generally, are always doing deals with each other so there must be some flex to do arms length deals with people you know or have done business with before.

21.) 08 Jan 2025 16:11:51
Why do people think Musk would invest massively in the playing squad? Have you not seen what he has done with twitter, cutting staff down to bare bones. His supposed role with the US government is all about cost cutting as well. He would see liverpool ownership as a purely profit making scheme.

22.) 08 Jan 2025 18:05:28
@007 - You do realise don't you that the wage bill at Anfield will increase massively in April this year after the Government increased the NI contributions for employees.

How much of an increase will that be on Salah's £350k a WEEK? and don't forget about all the rest of the players and staff employed by FSG. I think a few teams will suffer because of that.

23.) 08 Jan 2025 19:17:17
Apparently Nouri from Wolves is now the left back target, and we’re not or no longer after the Bournemouth player. Also Diaz has turned down a new contract.

24.) 08 Jan 2025 20:27:41
If you guys think Elon musk will chuck money in the never ending pit of football finances you're sorely mistaken. He's basically a south African Jim Radcliffe. It'll be cuts to staff, hikes in ticket prices and the absolute worst PR ever, every single day.

When he took over Tesla he immediately fired 5% of the workers, cancelled the production line and meddled in car design. When he took over twitter he immediately sacked 20% of staff and started charging for badges. When he bought his way in at openAI he tried to do all that but they wouldn't give him control so he threw his toys out the pram and left.

He's the tech bro version of a robber baron. It will be the biggest mistake in Liverpool's history to have him as an owner, even bigger than hicks and gillet.

25.) 08 Jan 2025 22:32:08
It surprises me that people actually want this. First off we’ve been criticising the likes of City, Chelsea and PSG for buying titles for years, so why do we want to do the same? We have almost prided ourselves on the fact that we have created superstars on a budget, however frustrating that has been at times. Secondly, Musk is right wing loon, trying to bankroll right wing regimes in the US and UK, Liverpool is a working class, proudly left wing city, with a reputation for chasing the EDL off the streets - why would any scouser want the likes of him anywhere near our club or city for that matter? Are we that easily bought that we would sell out our values at the first flash of cash? I don’t get it.

26.) 09 Jan 2025 07:21:06
TAV you are absolutely right, but judging by some of the posts on here calling people snowflakes and decrying supposed ‘liberal censorship’ there are certainly right leaning posters on here. Not that I think (thinking and wishing are different things I guess) all Liverpool fans should be progressive let alone left wing, but that explains it.

27.) 09 Jan 2025 09:37:20
There are lots to criticize musk about. Like a lot of entrepreneurs he is part snake oil salesman but to be fair twitter was a financial basket case when he took over.

28.) 09 Jan 2025 09:52:28
FSG don’t run LFC but they do own it. So they do have complete responsibility for their asset.

FSG employ the decision makers. These same decision makers bark at the behest of their employers and toe the party line.

If I owned a car and left someone to manage and maintain it, then that same person kept ? by my car and running it into the ground, do you think I would say something? Or would I stay silent?

29.) 09 Jan 2025 11:26:05
But we aren't being run into the ground, are we? Just my opinion but if the three do walk away on frees at the end of the season, I would expect FSG to step in and do a review of Hughes' and Ward's position because they have ultimately failed. But the outcome of those three are still in the air currently and we are still top of the PL and are in the three Cup competitions, albeit with one foot out in one of them after yesterday's results. For them to step in now, I feel, would be a knee jerk reaction. But I am hopeful that come what may, a review and stock take would be done at the end of the season after results and outcomes are confirmed.

30.) 09 Jan 2025 13:55:58
Dracred: The players are being run into the ground as we speak. How many minutes have Gravenberch and Virgil played this season? How quickly has Konate been rushed back from injury?

We have needed CB and CM cover for 3-4 seasons now, possibly longer.

31.) 09 Jan 2025 14:49:12
Henry and Werner are on the board of directors aren’t they? The board do oversee the running of the business, delegated through the CEO. Certain strategic decisions will be reserved for the board, which may be things like agreeing the commercial strategy, which they’ll sign off and delegate for delivery. They’ll receive performance updates and if things are going off track they’ll call them in. They won’t be micro managing but they won’t be completely remote benefactors that attend an AGM once a year either, and slap backs if the asset value is falling.

32.) 10 Jan 2025 05:07:20
Ahh, got it StEtienne. I thought you meant that the club is being run into the ground. I do agree that the players, like Grav, are currently running on fumes but that is also as much Slot's issue than it is the transfer committee. There were opportunities to rest him and play Morton or Endo more. Or even rest Van Dijk and Salah, and play Quansah and Elliot/ Chiesa more. There will always be a drop-off in quality between the backups and the starters that the transfer committee can try to mitigate with signing better players but managing the player's minutes is Slot's remit.

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24 May 2025 18:32:00
Congrats to Leighton Clarkson on winning the Scottish Cup with Aberdeen! Once a red, always a red.

1.) 24 May 2025 19:01:57
Does that apply to TAA?

19 May 2025 12:39:14
Shout-out for Ed002 by the way. Two of the last bits of information he gave us were that we are very keen on Kerkez for LB to replace Robertson, and that Frimpong would be the choice at RB if Trent left.

His info was bang on the money until his last breath. RIP.

1.) 19 May 2025 13:14:44
Man we were blessed to have him on here
RIP ed002.

2.) 19 May 2025 12:44:30
Well said mate. He was and always will be a legend.

3.) 19 May 2025 13:04:03
The rumours are different now. I even find myself on the bbc gossip page, which I've not done for years! ??‍♂️.

4.) 19 May 2025 13:06:54
Well said, MK. What a guy, the absolute oracle of footballing knowledge.

5.) 19 May 2025 13:39:35
We were lucky indeed to have Ed02 giving us his insight.

6.) 19 May 2025 13:42:23
Good call MK, the legend is missed daily.

7.) 19 May 2025 13:28:01
We really are going to miss him this summer. That is for sure.

{Ed025's Note - deffo Joe..

8.) 19 May 2025 13:35:06
Ed002 will never ever be forgotten lad's RIP Rodeo Clown.

{Ed025's Note - we were lucky to have him as long as we did Barry..

9.) 19 May 2025 17:45:56
He was the man! We miss you and I'm sure he will be looking down next Monday and smiling.

17 May 2025 23:19:04
Joao Pedro rumours seem to be picking up pace. Good player and £60m sounds much more reasonable than the previously touted £100m. More of a Firmino type striker than a prolific goal scorer though. Would probably be an excellent link man for the other forwards like Gakpo, Salah and Diaz.

1.) 17 May 2025 23:32:23
Plus he will add to homegrown quota.

2.) 17 May 2025 23:33:46
Bang bang averGe, don't rate this kid at all. If Cunha has anger managment issues so does Joao Pedro 1000%.

3.) 18 May 2025 00:13:17
I think he’s bang average tbh MK. If we want that sort of player then Cunha is there for the same price and is twice the player.

4.) 18 May 2025 01:13:01
Controversial I’m sure, but I think he has a higher ceiling than Cunha. When I watch them both, Pedro just looks like the more talented player, even though the g/ a stats say otherwise. He’s only 23 (2 years younger than Cunha) and his game intelligence, reading of the game, decision making and pass appreciation are all superior. Technically they’re both very good, but Cunha is more direct and Pedro is more about bringing others into play and orchestrating attacks.

Although he does 100% have similar aggression issues and hopefully would be able to calm down IF we signed him. I was not aware he qualified as HG. That could be a deciding factor if it’s correct.

Edwards and the data analysts have apparently been watching him for years now. He does look like he’s just about to explode and really become a top Premier League player. At £100m I wouldn’t have touched him, but at £60m, I think he’s a good signing.

5.) 18 May 2025 01:30:37
There is no homegrown quota.

6.) 18 May 2025 05:07:23
Cunha looks a mikes better player than Joao Pedro. Even if Joao Pedro does have a ‘higher ceiling’ than Cunha (and I would strongly dispute that), there is no guarantee he will actually reach it. Cunha is at a high level, right now, an immediate upgrade on all our striking options - for a very similar price! It would be a bizarre choice to go for Joao Pedro.

7.) 18 May 2025 06:29:07
Cunha over Pedro any day of the week. Look how much he contributed on a terrible Wolves team before the new coach came in. He carried that team with maybe 1 other player.

8.) 18 May 2025 06:48:09
Cunha is better.

I don’t mind Pedro, he’s an upgrade on what we have, but not a big upgrade. Hopefully it’s not true.

9.) 18 May 2025 07:19:53
Got to be honest, neither Cuhna or Pedro fill me with much excitement on the goal scoring front, their stats are hardly amazing, especially for the £ values I keep seeing, maybe they will thrive in a better team but at the minute I’m underwhelmed.

10.) 18 May 2025 07:39:16
What Cunha does for Wolves really is great, but I do get Shaqiri or Grealish vibes from Cunha though. If he’s not the main man that everybody looks for in possession, I’m not sure he does as well. He seems very much like a big fish in a little pond and having no quality around him pretty much forces him to try audacious things. Whereas Pedro is able to look good even with Mitoma, Welbeck and Minteh around him.

It’s a good debate though. As you could easily argue that Cunha would become more of a team player if you surrounded him with better players. I’d be happy with Pedro but I understand people’s reservations. My only qualm with the links was the £100m fee being reported a few months ago.

11.) 18 May 2025 09:28:27
Anger management issues ??. I thought it was passion, just needs harnessing in the right way.

12.) 18 May 2025 10:21:22
Pedro isn’t for me. Takeaway his penalties and you’re not left with much of a goal output.

He has shown this year that he just isn’t very good at 9. He plays his best football playing off a striker (like Welbeck) whereas when he needed to lead the line this year he has underwhelmed.

Liverpool need a 9 and for that reason I wouldn’t go for him.

I think Cunha can play off a striker deeper but he can also lead the line too. His goal output is far superior and his pressing is also very good.

I’d take Cunha every time over Pedro for what we need.

13.) 18 May 2025 10:21:33
Cunha walks around a lot. I just don't see him as a pressing monster.

14.) 18 May 2025 14:23:59
MK, Cunha is better than Joao Pedro, IMO. If I had to pick btw the two, it would be Cunha, no question.

12 May 2025 12:39:33
Great post match interview from Diaz. Sounds like he really wants to stay. He's massively improved his goal return this season so hopefully he is fully back from his horrible ACL injury and can kick on to be the player we thought he would be from his first few months.

I'd much rather focus on positives like this. Who cares about the players who don't want to be here!

1.) 12 May 2025 14:22:21
The thing I love about Lucho always gives 100%.

His physicality and availability shouldn't be underestimated, nor should his off the ball work.

The only thing that stops him from being a bonafide elite player is his final pass and finishing.

2.) 12 May 2025 14:27:12
I think he got an MCL injury and not an ACL, but yeah he seems to have added much more of an end product. I don't know if he is the answer to our No9 position against all types of opponents, but against teams who want to play he is a very good option to have.

3.) 12 May 2025 15:47:11
Great player but really should score more imo. I appreciate not everyone will have the return of Salah but I just feel Diaz is guilty of missing plenty despite always being a threat.

09 May 2025 10:08:57
Gravenberch has been good this season and he's still only 22 so bound to get better on the defensive side of things. The desperation from a loud minority to alter the system and replace him or Mac Allister with a destroyer is extremely strange to me. Slot likes Grav in midfield with Macca and I'm inclined to say he's backed up his decision by winning a league title.

I'm not for one second saying we don't need a midfielder though. If you look a most successful teams nowadays they all have a core 14-16 players. 1 keeper, 2 centre backs, 4 full backs, 5 midfielders and 4 forwards. That's 11 starters and your 3-5 first choice substitutes. You don't typically rotate your keeper or your centre backs, nor do you make subs in those areas unless injury forces it. Usually most title winning teams have had a full back or midfielder who can comfortably step in at CB if needed such as Gomez/ Azpilicueta/ Ake, Fabinho/ Fernandinho/ Matic etc. Slot has trusted Gravenberch at CB at times but we may also look to a Hato/ Geertruida type full back. If you break down our core 16 the issues are clear though, and Gravenberch being a ball player is not one of them. The bigger issue actually is that due to having a destroyer who the manager doesn't fancy, we've overplayed our other midfielders.

Alisson - OK
Bradley - OK
Trent - definitely leaving
Virgil - OK
Konate - possibly leaving
Tsimikas - not good enough
Roberston - OK
Gravenberch - OK
Mac Allister - OK
Szoboszlai - OK
Jones- OK
Endo - not fancied by Slot
Diaz - OK
Gakpo - OK
Salah - OK
Nunez - not good enough

So we need a RB to replace Trent, a LB to replace Tsimikas, a CM to replace Endo, and a ST to replace Nunez. Probably a CB to replace Konate who looks increasingly likely to depart.

I know a lot of our fans have a hang up on CB's because of what happened in 2021 but that was a freak season. 9 times out of 10 the team that wins the league kept both starting CB's fit and together for nearly every game. Konate played 28/ 34 league games before the title was confirmed and Virgil is yet to miss a single minute in the league (35/ 35).

Everyone outside of that (Elliott, Jota, Chiesa, Quansah, Gomez, Kelleher etc) we shouldn't really be rushing to boot out the club, but if they push to leave we should try to replace internally if possible, because the odds are their replacements will barely kick a ball. We have lots of talented young players at the club worth some game time.

FWD: Doak, Koumas, Danns, Ngumoha
MID: Nyoni, McConnell, Stephenson
DEF: Bajcetic, Nallo, Chambers, Beck
GK: Mamardashvili

Ultimately, there are only a handful of issues in our squad which need resolving and that is why we are Champions. There is not a fundamental problem with our system or Slot's midfield preference.

1.) 09 May 2025 10:36:14
Slit said in his press conference today that he doesn’t discuss recruitment for positions but did say “we have four players who can play RB”. Bradley, Jones, Quansah and Gomez.

I am not so sure Slot sees replacing Trent as a vital move. Interesting summer ahead.

2.) 09 May 2025 10:41:10
Agree with all of that, with any luck bajetic takes the endo role.

3.) 09 May 2025 10:45:46
I don't think anybody wants to replace Grav or Mac with a destroyer. Most people want another quality deep midfielder (not necessarily a destroyer) so that they can rotate and not run them into the ground. A DM that offers something different (e. g. Beleba) would also allow us different options in games. It would also be reasonable for all 3 to play with Grav alongside a new deep midfielder, Macca playing at 10 and resting Szobo.

I personally think there are 3 obvious positions that are likely to be addressed this summer in RB, LB and CF.

After that we are looking at improving the squad and planning for the future which would most likely be DM, CB (or 2 if Konate is sold) and RW.

I can't see us signing more than 4 players this summer so I would like to see us sign RB, LB (one of which is comfortable covering at CB), CF and DM.

4.) 09 May 2025 11:41:39
Shipley, there was a thread further down where 'Isedgodam' and 'House of Cards' were literally both arguing with people that we needed a DM so Gravenberch could play further forward. Ironically, we saw that under Klopp, and Gravenberch was totally unsuited to being further forward.

As I said, it is only a loud minority of people saying it. It's quite clear what Slot wants from his deepest midfielder. He wants them to take the ball in tight spaces on the turn and get us on the attack, whereas most deeper lying midfielders will just knock a first time pass straight back to the defenders if they're under pressure. There are very few players who can do what Slot wants and are also be better defensively than Gravenberch. We've got a future world class midfielder and he's found his home at the base of our midfield in Slot's system.

5.) 09 May 2025 12:01:21
Personally see Gomez being the rcb/ RB cover. Nallo and Stephenson could cover RB aswell. Hato would be ideal for lb as he plays next to Virg for Holland. Endo will need replacing and hopefully Bajcetic replaces Morton. High hopes for Nyoni and hopefully he can come into the first team squad more this season.

6.) 09 May 2025 12:05:23
What black magic has Jones done on you @MKS. I have never ever seen another more overtated player than Jones.

7.) 09 May 2025 12:09:41
The problem is that the one player in world football- who coincidentally is available on a release clause for relatively cheap, liverpool's favourite kind of deal- who we can with some level of certainty say looks like a long term replacement for Virgil, is available right now, Dean Huijsen. He should be uppermost in our minds simply because he is the ultimate 'opportunistic signing' and will solve a problem we will have hanging over our heads the next two seasons with Virgil beginning to enter the twilight of his career.

So I would say that Huijsen is the deal we need to sew up first, then see if we can renew Konate, or we would have to bring another center back in this window as well, because Huijsen and Virgil is not at all an upgrade on what we have in terms of their respective skill sets. We need a physical, mobile and pacey defender who is good in the air alongside Virgil.

After that we can think of getting two full backs, one on the left to start and one on the right to compete with or deputise for Conor (I don't know if that would be Martim Fernandes or Givairo Read or somebody like that, or if we have a right back solution in the academy) . I would imagine that the prospect of bringing in Frimpong might be too attractive to pass up, though, he looks like he's eager to come, is friends with members of the squad, can play two positions and offers very good value even on the chance that he doesn't make it with us.

A number 9 is a no brainer but if we are only getting one attacking player I think it doesn't look likely that it will be Cunha. I imagine that Slot wants somebody with presence in the box as well as pace, but is also mobile and can run first minute to last. I don't know who that player would be, Sesko looks a risk and Ekitike looks even more of a risk, I don't know why we would let go of Darwin and get two raw projects who don't have the sort of complete game we would want. Honestly I think Sesko looks a better bet than Ekitike all around and to me he has a higher ceiling, but you wouldn't expect either to arrive and be the finished article in the way that, say, Marmoush has done. I think he is a decent player and I have seen him a fair bit, but I really would not want us to go for Ekitike, he really lacks physicality. If Diaz is also leaving this window, which I would hope is not the case, then I can see us going for Cunha.

As for a deep lying midfielder, I think Stiller is a very very good choice. He is defensively okay, plus with Trent going it makes sense going for him because everything goes through him at Stuttgart, he is very much a passing metronomic sort of midfielder rather than a carrier like Gravenberch, so if they are to rotate they will provide different things despite occupying a similar sort of position. Hugo Larsson also offers a similar kind of profile but I would imagine he would be more expensive.

I would imagine Baleba is not very likely given this isn't our most pressing position and he would probably take up most of the budget we have available to us, the bulk of which I would expect to go to a top tier number 9, a starting left back and Huijsen. To be honest those three alone would cost a whole lot, somebody like Frimpong coming in with them and the other problem positions like DM being left for a future window seems more sensible to me.

8.) 09 May 2025 12:44:47
Poor Jota isn't worth mentioning?

9.) 09 May 2025 12:46:22
You’re right on Gravenberch MKS, that post earlier was/ is just complete nonsense. RG offered little further forward last season but has been superb since playing as a more defensive minded midfielder and I don’t see the point in changing that. Bajcetic can cover if needed, or Endo if he stays. There are other positions where any funds can be better spent (LB, CB, Striker) .

10.) 09 May 2025 13:58:39
Not seen anyone of sound mind mention replacing Gravenberch. I would suggest better use of the posters time. But he definitely wore down this season so his minutes will need to be managed more next season and finding the "right" backup whether internal or external will be important. If they can convince Endo to stay or one of the younger lads (Baj, McConnnell, Morton, Nyoni, etc) can handle the job that is fine as well. But I doubt a higher profile signing (Stiller ie) is coming in to play behind Berch.

11.) 09 May 2025 14:45:08
I'd like a new midfielder, preferably a defensive one . not to replace any of the current 3 but to compete with them . love Elliot n Jones ( i know a lot don't ) but don't think they're starters, more squad members . I'd also think Macallister get play even better further up the pitch . not sure who that midfielder could be though.

12.) 09 May 2025 15:16:48
We have a Fantastic squad. Add some players to it, avoid too many injuries, and I can see us winning it again!

13.) 09 May 2025 17:59:21
Gravy was excellent up to Christmas. He's been average since. Whether that is down to fatigue or whether the opposition clocked onto the Virgil-Gravy attack construction and shut it down.

Either way, we need some help in there.

14.) 09 May 2025 18:24:05
I would like a midfielder who can do both as in defend and offer something in creativity and in attack, if that makes sense.

15.) 09 May 2025 22:15:05
Slot doesn’t fancy Endo. Move him on and get the best player in that position you can. If that means Gravenberch drops out so be it. Maybe Gravenberch steps up even more and MacAllister drops out maybe Mac goes into the 10 and Dom drops out. Good problems to have. You get better by signing better players not squad players.

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24 May 2025 15:58:04
Mbwell, I don’t know what your exact criteria is, but Alisson and Salah both came from Italy and are in the convo for our best XI of all time.

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23 May 2025 18:30:24
Which medicinal? Maca Root? Tea Tree Oil?

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23 May 2025 17:44:27
I’m getting ‘Hughes 1’ on my shirt next season.

Imagine he signs Salah, Virgil, Frimpong, Wirtz and Kerkez in the space of a month.

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23 May 2025 15:34:06
I’ve Wirtz signs then I’ll have a semi in Milton Keynes.

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23 May 2025 12:29:32
£118m for Wirtz and Frimpong is fresh of the rumour mill on here, as per Akira who's been right in the past about financial movements. Which is about 35m euros for Frimpong and 105m euros for Wirtz, so it tracks with what's been reported elsewhere.

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23 May 2025 18:17:15
Not Harry. He wanted Kante over Maradonna 2 days ago. So even if we sign Wirtz he’s still likely to kick off that we didn’t opt for Lee Cattermole to get Gravenberch out of DM.

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23 May 2025 12:47:39
I think Diaz will only go if Barcelona pony up. I can't see him wanting to go to the desert just yet because he is too competitive for that nonsense.

Salah and Gakpo are not leaving, you can put your house on that. Chiesa seems likely to stay. Jota I can't see pushing to leave or being pushed, and his injury record will limit interest either way. Nunez will definitely go; Napoli, AC Milan, Atletico and Saudi all circling allegedly.

Diaz is the one I see as being up in the air due to the contract situation, coupled with his previously reported desire to play for Barca, and Deco stating publicly that they do like him.

I think we'll sign at least 1 versatile striker to replace Nunez though and it will be someone we see as a starter. If I was a betting man, I'd be backing Ademola Lookman or Joao Pedro because they count as HG and both will be seen as good opportunistic buys at £50-60m. They're both very flexible positionally and good at retaining possession under pressure which is something we currently lack.

Personally I'd still like Osimhen but it's gone so cold now in the more reliable media outlets and with trustworthy ITK's that it can probably be dismissed.

I'm not convinced the club will pay the 100m euro asking prices for Sesko or Ekitike as they're both as raw as Nunez was when we signed him and both lack versatility due to being quite 1 dimensional players who like to run a lot but don't really hold the ball up too well or link play much at all.

Isak was probably the dream but it'll become a pipe dream if Newcastle finish in the top 5 and qualify for the CL.

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23 May 2025 12:25:27
I agree, Bill. Look at the numbers we currently have of players who've made a senior appearance for us or on loan (off the top of my head)
GK: Alisson, Kelleher, Mamardashvili, Jaros, Davies, Mrozek
RB: Trent, Bradley, Stephenson, Ramsay, Mabaya, Norris
CB: Konate, Gomez, Williams
CB: Virgil, Quansah, Phillips, Nallo
LB: Robbo, Tsimikas, Beck, Chambers, Scanlon
DM: Gravenberch, Endo, Morton, Bajcetic, McConnell
CM: Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Jones, Nyoni
AM: Elliott, Kone-Doherty
RW: Salah, Chiesa, Doak, Gordon
ST: Nunez, Jota, Danns
LW: Gakpo, Diaz, Koumas, Ngumoha

That's 46 players who will want game-time in some capacity next season (34 are aged 21 or over) . Throw in that we want to sign another 4 or 5 players, there will be at least 20 players sold/ loaned this summer. I'm not even guessing, there's just no other alternative. You can only registers 25 players over the age of 21.

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23 May 2025 11:41:44
Florian Musiala, the 17 is genuinely not even that many when you break it down. 8 of they made ZERO appearances due to already being on loan. 1 of them did not start a league game at all. 2 of them didn't start a league game until the league was already guaranteed. 1 of them is our 2nd choice GK. 1 of them is our 2nd choice LB. 1 of them is our 4th choice CB. 2 of them are our 4th and 5th choice FW's. Trent is the only starter out of the 17 listed by the OP. I'd even go as far to say he's actually missed quite a few players off because I reckon you can easily add Quansah, McConnell, Danns, Koumas, Stephenson and Jaros to that list of players likely to be sold or loaned out.

I do think Jota, Endo and one of Gomez/ Quansah might stay though. I can easily see 20+ players leaving the club this summer because the squad is very bloated and Slot has specifically said he likes to work with a smaller group. We don't need 45 senior players.

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23 May 2025 08:57:04
To be fair Flash, only 8 of those players he listed are first team players. Doak, Morton, Gordon, Williams, Phillips, Ramsay, Beck, Chambers and Bajcetic made a combined 5 appearances for the first team this season. They were all Morton. 1 FA Cup, 3 EFL Cup and the dead rubber vs PSV in the CL group stages.

I don't think it's actually that unrealistic for all 17 of those players to leave the club in some capacity, as the OP did say sold or loaned. I think Trent, Kelleher, Tsimikas, Elliott and Nunez are bordering on certain to leave in my opinion. Jota, Gomez and Endo I wouldn't be shocked if they were sold but I doubt we'd actively be trying to push them out.