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26 Mar 2019 11:09:11
I have to ask, ed002 any truth in the Moreno rumours to Barca. Good luck to him if it's true!


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, Barcelona are already discussing bringing in one first team starter at LB an one for the future at LB.}

1.) 26 Mar 2019 15:35:09
Looks like Lazio could be his next destination.



18 Jul 2018 19:35:08
Why are both the echo and Sky reporting this Alisson deal as breaking the record that city paid for ederson? It may be the premier league record but the actual record was Buffon back in 2001.

On the subject of Alisson not seen much of him but ed001 seems to rate him highly so thatll do for me.

Also gutted for the ox, the reaction on here shows how integral he became to the squad and hope his recovery goes well.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 19:59:52
Reporters only have a 5 second memory, they probably forgot all about Buffon being the worlds most expensive keeper until this deal is completed lol.

2.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
It varies depending on which currency you use because of the fluctuation in exchange rate.

Buffon held the euro record. Ederson held the sterling record. Alisson breaks both records.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 20:39:02
It’s being reported as. PL record.

4.) 18 Jul 2018 21:40:36
Didn’t they pay 52 Euro’s but for Buffon and Lilian Thurman, so for 2 players.

5.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:08
It’s as Adam said. Buffon, although more Euros, was sold at a time when the £ was much stronger against the €.

Hence Buffon in £ at the time (2001?) is less than Ederson in £ when he was bought last year.

Not much in it, mind.

And when you think about the inflation of transfer fees in the last 15-20 years, Buffons transfer fee was in the Coutinho - Neymar range in today’s market!

What’s most amazing is that, in light of everything, Juve STILL got a bargain!



04 Feb 2018 13:12:51
In regards to the champions league it is a competition we all love but I feel it has also given a way out for many teams including us, to say, we finished top four it’s a good season.

Take champions league out of it and the only thing that should matter is winning the league (which only one team can do a year but you should be damn close in doing so) and winning a trophy.

Why has the champions league become bigger than the domestic league? don't get me wrong 2005 will live long in the memory but as an English club domestic success should be the be all and end all. For instance I’ll remember 08/09 as we came so close and even closer in 13/14 but I don’t remember the other seasons where we scrape 4th. Finishing top should be and always should be the aim with an FA Cup or League Cup (none of this carabao nonsense) .


1.) 04 Feb 2018 13:31:13
I don't think qualifying for the champions league has taken precedent over winning the title, it's just the minimum requirement from top 6 teams currently. I think if you asked most Liverpool fans they would prefer the domestic title and I think if you asked our owners they would prefer to be the owners that helped give LFC that. Where have you drawn this conclusion that the champions league is more important? It's more important for citeh currently because they haven't won it yet, and you can bet your bottom dollar that every manager within the top 6 absolutely strives to be crowned champions of the premier league, its not like citeh was the only team set out to try for the title this year and the other 5 just wanted top 4. it's just how the season has panned out with citeh being so consistent in results.

2.) 04 Feb 2018 14:04:03
Sorry WYred but surely you understand the financial rewards for UCL qualification and progression due to tv rights sponsorship etc etc. All fans want the big name players at their clubs, those players in turn want paying big money and want to be playing in the most competitive competition there is in club football the UCL. Its sad really that most clubs view the English domestic competitions as a hindrance nowadays due money pure and simple.

3.) 04 Feb 2018 14:44:06
Why not go for both? 🤔.

4.) 04 Feb 2018 16:25:09
I don’t think CL or top 4 has taken precedence over the league at all, but it’s about being able to realistically build a team that can compete. I would take the title over the CL and I would take a title over a top 4 space the following/ previous season. Money isn’t really an issue any more but top players want to play in the CL, end of story, without CL our best players, who we will have usually been forced to nurture ourselves from young talents because of not being able to attract top players, will want to leave for a better chance of winning trophies/ playing CL and so the cycle continues. There are extraordinary events of course, I. e. Leicester but this was an exception, not the rule, and i’ll be amazed if I see similar again in my lifetime. Top 4 and CL is not the be all and end all, but it is necessary to become and stay as a top team. I said at the start of the year Top four for us would be a successful season and I stand by that.

5.) 04 Feb 2018 18:50:44
Because it helps to attract the best new players.

6.) 04 Feb 2018 20:21:32
Correct stoneage 🤝.

7.) 04 Feb 2018 21:43:49
It's not always the case arsenal jus bought abumayang they ain't in champs league an also in 6th, also if u have a manager a player wants too play under that helps as abumayang has said he wanted too play under Wenger an he now playing for arsenal, as vvd wanted too play for Liverpool also.

8.) 04 Feb 2018 23:34:30
Apologies don't think i worded my point correctly. My point was that qualifying for the champions league was considered a success. I. e. we finished top four so we had a good season.

The only measurement for a good season should be winning a trophy. You could argue a title challenge is successful but only if you just miss out. But finishing fourth should not be considered an achievement it is a mere bonus that you have qualified for the champions league.

Obviously champs league has the money and attracts players, and in my original post that question was rhetroical as its money the makes the game go round which is an unfortunate outcome of the game becoming so successful.

9.) 05 Feb 2018 09:59:17
WYred, there's a difference between winning trophies and achieving targets. Both Wigan and Swansea have won major trophies since our last one but clearly they're not better teams than us. So we need a better way of measuring how well we're currently doing and that's the league.

Goals scored is a great measure of our attack, goals conceded of our defence and points of our general standing. If these records are going up or down season by season then that's measure of our progress.

Being in the top four isn't success in itself but it's a target that's shows we're improving. From 2010-16 we made the top four once, hopefully we going to do it for the second time in a row this season, that's progress.

If we start to come top four regularly then we can increase our targets to 'challenge for the title' and if we challenge for the title regularly we can increase our target to 'win the league'. That's the aim but it's a journey.

Saying we're unsuccessful because we didn't win the league is unhelpful as it wasn't a realistic target for us this season. Having a target of 'top four' and achieving that target shows we're on the right track.

10.) 05 Feb 2018 10:59:00
I think for this season if we qualified for champs league 2 seasons in a row that's progression too were we have come from, it shows a level of consistency in the league but obviously we have too take it too the next level in terms of winning leagues an cups, from the top too the bottom of the club as a whole we always should b thinking through the ceiling but these days money is king an we lag behind in that department as there are 5 or six teams as just as wealthy an 3 of them have juggernaut money.

11.) 05 Feb 2018 11:07:41
So the measurement for success is winning a trophy but you’d rather not be in a competition with a trophy up for grabs so you can focus on 3 other comps, at least 2 of which are less prestigious?

12.) 05 Feb 2018 11:35:43
I still don't think you're correct WYred - most people laugh at the few who considers it a success on it's own merit.

However, most things in life happen in steps. We've spent almost a decade out of the Champions League for the most part, so the first step is getting back into it and solidifying our position as regulars. It's a good indication of the path to success - no one really believes its the end goal of it.

13.) 05 Feb 2018 12:09:27
i think top 2 should should qualify automatic for CL and the winner of both cups get the remaining two place.

14.) 05 Feb 2018 12:33:32
Hailstones. aubumayang went to Arsenal because no other big club would buy him and he wanted to move! Also his current club are out the champions league so it made no difference to his current season.

15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:00:27
Tia, mate abumayang is quality he will bag arsenal a lot of goals bet u he has a field day in the premiership, no one wanted Suarez but we did, no one wanted coutihno we did, no one wanted Salah we did, doesn't mean anything they have a world class striker.

16.) 05 Feb 2018 16:11:36
Swish, I never said I don't want to be in the champions league, my point is that you shouldn't meerly aim for top four (you may during the season have to adapt your targets depending on results) but before a ball is kicked the title should be the aim plus any trophy your competing in.

ending a season with just a top four finish can be seen as progress from where we have been but should still be considered an average season at best.

This site is about opinions which over certain things will differ but it is what makes this site so addictive.

17.) 05 Feb 2018 18:36:26
how many clubs, Liverpool included, wish for top four, it brings so many pluses, meaning you have performed well in the bread and butter of the premiership, then to have a good run, in all the cups, hoping to win one of course, really being in the Champions League does attract the better players, and money,
this then means you can then strenghten your team, giving you a better chance to win games,
so the best teams, then have a much better chance of staying up there with the best,
we have just added VVD and Mo Salah, our full back situation looks so much better now, even Karius is improving, we have Kieta coming here in 4 months, Lovren looks good with VVD,
there to me I can see a big improvement,
if we can add a class midfielder, we can def set our sights even higher next season .

18.) 06 Feb 2018 02:24:55
WY, the aim is to win everything we enter, the top 4 is the minimum level we want to be achieving, not maximum. just cos that's what we reference as a milestone doesn't mean that we're only happy competing at that level.



02 Feb 2018 20:21:55
Does anyone know if a player with less than 6 months on their contract can sign a pre- contract agreement outside of the January transfer window?


1.) 02 Feb 2018 20:36:36
Yes as long as it’s with a club for a different country or FA as far as I’m aware. At least that seems to be the general rule. Need to get the old law manual out!

2.) 02 Feb 2018 20:37:59
Yes, as long as it is a non English side.

3.) 02 Feb 2018 20:52:36
I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window.

4.) 03 Feb 2018 02:06:44
Fa not country. by the way eds is there any country havin different fa?

{Ed001's Note - any country having different FA from what?}

5.) 03 Feb 2018 11:29:34
“I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window. ”

Ed002 will correct me if I’m wrong, but players can sign for clubs at any stage of the season as long as the selling club agree to it. Registration can only be transferred during a transfer window.

When a player only has 6 months left on their contract they don’t need to seek the permission of their parent club to sign pre-contract agreements. If it’s within the same FA then a fee needs to be decided - either by agreement or by tribunal (eg Danny Ings)

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

6.) 04 Feb 2018 01:53:56
Livebird31 Swansea and Cardiff are in different FA to country and vice versa.



02 Jan 2018 18:55:40
Ed002 has played a blinder with wonderdogsparky, my opinion is that Couts is off and VVD has taken his house.


1.) 02 Jan 2018 20:10:46
It'd seem to obvious to me that scenario, I think he's talking about somebody else coming in lol but who knows, his 'clues' are about enough to make Einstein go round the twist.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 20:20:56
Samir "smooth hands" Handanovic, methinks.

3.) 02 Jan 2018 20:25:40
He ‘or she’ Ed002 may be a she, is just sending us into a frenzy, silly season is underway!

{Ed002's Note - I rather think I have done no such thing.}

4.) 02 Jan 2018 20:43:59
It does seem its couts and vvd but there does seem to be another one at least in there.

5.) 02 Jan 2018 20:44:01
Ed002 I think its great mate what you have done. Certainly makes it fun us all stressing over who it is arriving. Is it someone youve mentioned before like on the Sharkopod?

{Ed002's Note - you have missed the entire point.}

6.) 02 Jan 2018 20:50:51
John parrot lives in coutinhos basement.

7.) 02 Jan 2018 20:59:27
It’s all riddles
Hand cream Shea butter
Could be
Shay given (Shea)
Jack butland (butter)

I hope I’ve stirred this pot into more frenzy.

8.) 02 Jan 2018 21:17:41
Wonder Dog Sparky is and anagram of Skyward Pogo Nerd

The prodigal son returns. I give you Peter Crouch!

9.) 02 Jan 2018 21:54:08
There won’t be a keeper. We have four. Two whom expect to be playing.

10.) 02 Jan 2018 21:55:46
Tbh I don't even think it relates to any new arrival now.

11.) 02 Jan 2018 22:13:33
My reading of the players ‘dropping by to say hi’ to WDS are other players that will be leaving. Marco, Ings etc.

12.) 02 Jan 2018 23:21:15
Shea Butter = sturridge out
Old Friends = masch and Suare, pepe reina?

13.) 03 Jan 2018 03:10:10
Shea butter made from Pea-like fruit off the Shea tree.

Mascara - Spanish for Mask

Old Friend

Auba is on his way!

14.) 03 Jan 2018 10:33:46
Rborhara, it could be Nuri Sahin you know.

15.) 03 Jan 2018 13:16:34
Bull Moose Jackson plays R&B Keiata’s on his way!




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06 Jul 2019 12:55:02
caoimhin kelleher, has sustained a broken wrist hence why he is not on the list of returning players for pre season. Wish him a quick recovery, but be interesting to see who is in net for and Bradford.
Migs hasnt confirmed when he will return to training and think George was due to sign with Swindon.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 14:03:09
Good point WYred, migs must be coming back, or it'll have to be a real youngster i guesss.

2.) 06 Jul 2019 14:18:38
Some kid called Jaros I have heard.

3.) 06 Jul 2019 14:40:51
Terrific opportunity for someone though, think grabara is still away too because of u21 internationals.



26 Jun 2019 09:49:50
Looks like we will sell out our allocation for the Bradford game, hopefully it helps the Darby Rimmer MND Foundation.


1.) 27 Jun 2019 15:46:04
I'll be there are you going wyred.



09 Jun 2019 13:59:27
Quick ticketing question, for pre season games do they just go on general sale and is there generally much demand? Also for the community shield, I'm guessing these go to people with a certain amount of games first before they filter down to members?
League tickets are like gold dust at the minute so trying to get a couple of games under my belt, any advice from the members would be appreciated.


1.) 09 Jun 2019 14:22:18
Pre season you can sometimes get tix off the other clubs website, I think I even paid on the door at Bury last year, ahh the good old days.
Members for league games, they sell in bulk now, which is annoying, so the first half of the season will go on sale you'll literally have to grab any seat you can probably for the most available games to build up your card.
Save up now coz for example you'll have to buy say all 3 games you want in one go. Nightmare but good luck mate.

2.) 09 Jun 2019 21:32:58
Evening FC8, but when you log on for the first games on membership sales I can never get through. I think each member shop be allowed a couple of matches. I don't mind which league matches they are.

I think the only way to get tickets is the hospitality for lower games. Then get the credits on the membership for the season after. If you have an L postcode I think it is easier to get tickets.

3.) 09 Jun 2019 21:48:09
Thanks guys! I’ll be honest last few years haven’t even tried for league games with budget and difficulty to get them! Plus as the team gets better it’ll be more unlikely to get to games, Hence trying to go to for pre season and community shield tickets (no idea what demand will be like for them) . And my postcode starts with an L it’s just quickly followed by an S wonder if their system is that clever 😂?

4.) 10 Jun 2019 10:21:20
Nice one WY. It's the only negative in supporting Liverpool, they are by far the hardest to get tickets for.

5.) 10 Jun 2019 11:47:34
Ah well Keep trying lads! To be honest I only go to the European games now with a few prem games dotted around. It Gets expensive!
youll definite get a ticket for the home friendly though I'm certain lads keep trying.



05 Jun 2019 10:10:11
The echo have announced some potential friendlies for Liverpool, our usual at Tranmere and potentially one at Bradford. But nothing confirmed by either club yet.

I know it will only be a few first team players but definitely going to the valley if its true.


1.) 05 Jun 2019 13:55:12
I live I will be Bradford I will definitely be off to valley parade for that game even if the first team players only play 20 minutes I'll be over the moon be nice if the brought big ears to show the fans it tol.

2.) 05 Jun 2019 14:59:25
That would be ace! Read about it in a few of the local papers and it may be to do with links with Stephen Darby, so sounds like it's to raise money for the Motor Neurone charity.



08 May 2019 21:59:12
Football is unreal, well played spurs, incredible! Bring them on,


1.) 08 May 2019 22:03:35
Wow, so its spurs. We will be in the red kit.

Who are the better team, liverpool or spurs? I think that's obvious.

We have a good record against spurs.

Fair play to english football. Dunno why everyone bangs on about la liga, apart from messsi i don't see what the fuss is all about.

2.) 08 May 2019 22:04:04
Fair play to spurs though, fair play.

3.) 08 May 2019 22:04:07
Look at Poch. Football shouldn't make you feel like that. It's only a game after all. It defies all logic. Some game, some effort, well done Spurs. Incredible.

4.) 08 May 2019 22:23:48
IR, this is why we watch football. It it was an exact science, NOBODY would care.




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15 Jul 2019 19:00:07
If Klopp and his team want cornet I back him. I like both Kent and Wilson, but think they will fall short of the standard required.




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06 Jul 2019 20:47:54
I'm not saying it will happen but would anyone take a loan to buy? Season to bed in to klopps tactics and then when Salah leaves next summer (probable but not definite) we can conclude the dembele deal (if klopp thinks he's good enough/ has the right attitude.

Again, I know unlikely, but am interested to see peoples views.


{Ed002's Note - It is not an option at all. Dembele is not in Liverpool.}



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04 Jul 2019 07:46:31
Dont write off united, it all depends on what mentality they go with, if they have the new manager one theyll make a flying start, if its the we dont like him mentality theyll be fighting with Everton and wolves for 6th.




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19 Jun 2019 19:00:54
The red kop I suggest you make a new account called TRKMSMP and combine your two personalities 😂.




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13 Jun 2019 12:05:29
Unless I've missed something, apologies if I have, but pretty sure Ed002 only said don't rule out us making a bid. Which to me means that he is an option that we may reconsider but nothing more then that at the minute.

Unless it is all just a smokescreen ;)





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16 Jul 2019 15:14:00
I think Lallana will be someone that may be a target for mid table clubs as we approach the end of the transfer window.
I just don't see him getting that many games. Maybe towards the busy Christmas period but we have Fabs, Hendo, Wiji, Milner, Keita, Ox and Shaq to cover 3 positions. Then you will have the younger lads who will want an opportunity too.
Obviously if he stays it's great for that additional option but if he wants regular game time a move is probably the sensible option.




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12 Jul 2019 11:20:58
KK7 is spot on, unfortunately good insight is rarely 'shared' on social media. But say something controversial/ stupid/ inappropriate or have a click bait headline and it spreads like wildfire.
So to say relevant you need to say something controversial/ stupid/ inappropriate which is why I like this site, posters airing their views and ed's providing updates that have no hidden motive, I'm looking at you sky!




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11 Jul 2019 15:23:24
my point is buying players isn't a necessity to compete, we are in the strongest position I have witnessed as a fan of 20 odd years. And whilst I'd love to continue to see us strengthen, I don't want us to buy a player just appease some fans. Plus the AfCON is still on and players are on their holidays, just because we haven't bought yet doesn't mean we won't in the next four weeks.




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11 Jul 2019 14:55:29
The squad doesn't NEED refresh, you should only buy if you identify someone who strengthens a weakness. Second you buy for the sake of it, you end up with players either not good enough or with the wrong attitude.
Other teams are in a different scenario to us, if we don't buy I won't see it as a failure. I'd see it that the powers that be don't see anyone of value to add.
As an example Spurs bought no one last year, and got to their first CL final. Sometimes it cannot be underestimated how good it can be to have some continuity in the group.




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11 Jul 2019 09:44:24
if we had unlimited funds would we switch Origi, we probably would. But in regards of the team I think finding cover/ competition for Robbo and TAA is far more important.
When we had to play Milner there, who is trusted to defend, we lose a weapon in attack which means less space in midfield as the RB/ LB isn't pulling a midfield player away. That's why I think we struggled in certain games last season.
Origi, as it stands, is happy to compete and scores big goals for us. I say he deserves a season and if it doesn't work out, he has four years left of his contract and someone will buy him next summer. I think it's smart business and doesn't do an Arsenal that allows him to walk away for nothing next year.