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09 Aug 2024 20:21:41
Stefan Bajetic on loan to Sociedad as part of a deal for Zubimendi?
Eds…could this be true as a sweetener?
Cheers!

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know anything of it but if Liverpool can add Zubinendi he needs to look for other options.}


1.) 09 Aug 2024 20:53:49
He was out best player during the poor second to last season under Klopp. I hope he is not sold.


2.) 09 Aug 2024 22:19:54
Really don’t think Bajcetic should be loaned out, he’s already a very good midfield squad option, young as he is.


3.) 09 Aug 2024 22:38:34
He won’t get much game time here if we buy another mf. Don’t lose him and don’t let him stagnate he needs to play to improve sounds like a great idea if true.


4.) 10 Aug 2024 00:00:50
@Vango, bit of an exaggeration about Baj. He showed a lot of promise but only featured in a handful of games. Not saying he isn’t any good because I think he was showing loads of potential before his injury but I think a loan out for a season to get some serious game time isn’t the worst option.


5.) 10 Aug 2024 01:09:04
@vango I think you mean the year before he never got a sniff last season.


6.) 10 Aug 2024 01:24:27
I agree with WDW3, lots of people going overboard about a player with 6 Premier League starts. He looked talented but our midfield was on its knees at the time, it wasn’t exactly difficult to stand out.


7.) 10 Aug 2024 01:30:28
The whole thing makes a lot of sense in my mind if Zubimendi wants to go to Barcelona as much as is suggested. Buy him, loan Stefan out to somewhere where he can get the experience, sell Zubi to Barcelona in a couple of years with Stefan ready to step in full time.


8.) 10 Aug 2024 01:33:05
WDW, absolutely agree.


9.) 10 Aug 2024 02:01:56
I do not understand the hype around Bajcetic whatsoever, at least for now anyway.
He played a games for us in season where we performed woefully and it had become clear that Klopp and Ljinders had neglected the midfield. He is known for a good piece of skill against Newcastle that, in fairness, did result in a goal but I believe that single moment is influencing views of Bajcetic more than it probably should.
He also lacks punctuality according to some sources on this site - not a good sign but young players and people in general take time to learn the rules of the workplace.
Would you rather have Bajcetic or Zubimendi at the base of our midfield going into the season? If you think the former, you’re deluding yourself.

{Ed001's Note - it is not according to some sources on this site - it is according to the official LFC site, where players have commented on how he is always late.}


10.) 10 Aug 2024 06:04:21
West Derby Wanderer3-Fair enough. Jurgen truly believed in him and he looked set to be the next to come through the ranks. A season on loan can't do any harm, and maybe Neyoni has made himself next in line.


11.) 10 Aug 2024 06:54:30
In fairness, Ed, you were the source I had in mind when saying the above.

{Ed001's Note - I have only referred to what the other players say about him. It is a very Spanish thing, so might not be seen as cause for concern, but it worries me. I want a player to be raring to go and not just in early, but to stay behind and work on his game after training. They are the ones you want.}


12.) 10 Aug 2024 07:00:35
A loan will do him the world of good after a year out with injury. Zubimendi is a far superior player at the minute and in my opinion is exactly what liverpool have been missing.


13.) 10 Aug 2024 08:33:22
Bajcetic seems to have become mythically good during his time away from the team. I've no doubt he's a good player but I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to talk about him as if he's already world class and the first name on the team sheet. A loan to a quality side will do him wonders and if he returns to us fit and healthy next season he'll still only be 20 - he's barely a kid!


14.) 10 Aug 2024 08:53:06
I highly doubt the plan is to splash 60mill on a player in the hope Barcelona will pay way more in a couple years. No club is going to do business like that - at least not if they want to stay in business.


15.) 10 Aug 2024 08:54:12
I wouldn’t loan him out if we can’t add a midfielder.


16.) 10 Aug 2024 08:54:43
I can see a future though where Zubi and badger are playing alongside each other.


17.) 10 Aug 2024 08:54:56
I think it’s a good idea. He’s clearly still growing and will struggle for fitness so why not let another team deal with that headache. He will get more experience of different training/ set ups and will probably grow up mentally as well.


18.) 10 Aug 2024 10:15:36
He’s not world class and he’s coming off an extended injury period.

He’s got all the skill you need to be world class but has he got the right mental and physical attributes?

We’ll wait and see….


19.) 10 Aug 2024 11:24:31
@Phil, you could say there is a precedent with buying and selling at a (mind boggling) print to Barca, with Couts.


20.) 10 Aug 2024 11:42:39
Baj is very talented but he needs to be playing esp. after going essentially a year without playing. If a loan is what he needs then, he should take it and go play actual games rather than sitting on the bench for majority of the season.


21.) 10 Aug 2024 12:53:35
WDW. Surely we could never be so lucky again. Certainly can’t rely upon Barcelona being so stupid again.


22.) 10 Aug 2024 14:34:14
Phil, PSG have offered an open cheque to Barcelona for Yamal, eventually they’ll relent. So yeah, it’s possible that history could repeat itself.


23.) 10 Aug 2024 14:34:48
I’d say the coutinho is a fluke precedent. Pretty much hasn’t happened again but also Coutinho was at a very cheap price compared to the apparent fee for Zubi.


24.) 10 Aug 2024 15:17:03
@Faith, I didn’t understand the amount they were willing to pay when we sold him and I still don’t now.


 

 

24 Jul 2024 10:16:31
Hi Ed: any serious interest from Liverpool in Matt O’Riley? …. cracking player with very high ceiling for improvement imo. Cheers!

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


1.) 24 Jul 2024 12:01:40
Surely we’ve enough midfielders like him?


2.) 24 Jul 2024 12:02:46
I did search ‘Matt O’Riley’ and nothing came up but no worries, I’ll keep my fingers crossed :)


3.) 24 Jul 2024 16:02:39
I'll keep mine crossed he doesn't sign.


 

 

24 Jun 2024 20:52:06
Hey Ed2, is there any possibility of Liverpool signing Sucic?
Many thanks for your work on the site?.

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - RBS want a new contract.}


1.) 25 Jun 2024 08:06:36
Thanks Ed, would have loved him with us.


2.) 25 Jun 2024 08:07:27
Pretty sure we don’t need another number 10.


3.) 25 Jun 2024 09:16:37
Wouldnt have had him down as a No.10.


 

 

18 May 2023 12:26:51
Hi Ed2; can I ask the reason we have no chance of Gvardiol?
As we obviously need a top class cab AND he’s a huge fan, now Bellingham is off - is there still just not enough money or is it something else?
Many thanks,
Agamemnon.

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - He is not being sold this summer and there are other interested clubs, one wanting to negotiate a deal for next summer. Liverpoool are not involved at all.}


1.) 18 May 2023 14:04:26
If we are not involved or even interested in him Bellingham or Ivan Toney then I am seriously worried about where the club is going moving forward. We need to surround players like Trent with players of a similar level. He can not hold us together on his own and needs help. I think I am likely to be highly disappointed in the signings this summer. At least expectations won’t be too high I suppose.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over about Gvardiol.}


2.) 18 May 2023 15:01:13
Stop buying all the paper talk and venting off here. So far we've signed nobody!


3.) 18 May 2023 15:06:36
Str8talker. are you OK? Do you need a cuddle? I do worry, reading some of your posts! Some total nonsense.


4.) 18 May 2023 15:47:42
If I was a betting man, I would say Ivan Toney is a no go ?

Although looking at the SPREAD of strikers available, ODDS are we have looked at him over the season ?

Sorry, like a pun ?.


5.) 18 May 2023 15:53:07
Str8talker, respect that you clearly love the club and are passionate about it. I do have to query your point about Toney though. He's just been banned from all football activity for 8 months!

I also think we were right to move on from Bellingham. It doesn't make financial sense in my opinion given our need to rebuild and bring down the average age of the squad.

I'm sure we'll still have a decent summer and be better next season. Think positive mate!


6.) 18 May 2023 15:55:31
Ivan Toney? Who can't play until January! Hilarious.


7.) 18 May 2023 18:06:06
Toney not joining nothing to see here.


8.) 18 May 2023 18:23:40
In fairness If next season is like this season then we don’t actually start playing until April so Toney coming in, in January would be ideal.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have no interest in Toney.}


9.) 18 May 2023 18:32:27
Ivan Toney isn’t suited to the way we play.


10.) 18 May 2023 18:48:28
More suited than Darwin.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have no interest in him.}


11.) 18 May 2023 18:57:31
Ed002 apologies mate my comment was a joke.

{Ed002's Note - OK.}


12.) 18 May 2023 20:32:09
Sr8talker, with the Toney logic we should probably put in bids for Rory Mcilroy, Rafa Nadal and hulk hogan.

Cheer up mate. It’s not your money that’s being spent, and if you have watched Liverpool for most of the season you will clearly see that Trent has not held the team together. For a large part of the season he was one of our worst performers. But we seem to forget that because he has been top class for the last 7 games. It was the 29 before that which were the problem.


13.) 18 May 2023 20:35:04
Ed02, do we have any interest in Ian Rush? He retired 25 years ago, but seeing we are now interested in banned players and ineligible ones, we should start looking at retired players as well. Also, is the sporting director post still vacant. I was thinking of applying.


14.) 19 May 2023 00:03:25
Why would we not be interested in a player who is still young and clearly talented who in all reality is only banned until January and when available can come in and be a major player? And anyway if you are all having a laugh and a joke the club already has a history of signing player who miss the first season in one way or another so go figure. I just like him that’s all there are not too many about let’s be honest and Darwin I have doubts will ever be the full polished striker a great asset yes but hit and miss will always be around with him. I have supported us for 36 years and have always moaned about certain incoming players most recently Jota who I had major doubts over but he has certainly surprised me with his contribution to the cause. So I would be quite happy to be proved wrong again, and just hope for our signings to help us move forward. Also on Gvardiol if we give Van Dijk next season and then bring him in would make sense, but nothing makes sense sometimes in football.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing to stop Liverpool showing an interest - but they haven’t at this time.}


15.) 19 May 2023 20:51:27
Monty, Nadal would fit right in, he's injured atm.


 

 

05 May 2023 01:08:17
Ed2:
I know we drive you nuts and you love to toy with our tiny minds, but…is there a genuine chance we could sign Ugarte and MacAllister?

Thanks in advance for your reply, I’d love to know why you bother - you must have been a sniper or hit man.

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - Alexis Mac Allister (CM/AM) Brighton are not looking to sell the player but are aware of interest from Borussia Dortmund, Juventus and, particularly, Atletico Madrid. Premier League clubs including Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have had scouts attending Brighton games to watch several players and have apparently all taken note of him. Manchester City are keen. Could be hugely expensive. I suspect Liverpool will look to an offer.
Manuel Ugarte (DM) Interest of Leeds went when Sporting refused to negotiate a reduction in his buy out clause and now want to give him a new contract and increase it. Wolves are still keen with Spurs and PSG also having shown an interest but none will meet his €60M buy out clause and Spurs whilst may have moved on to other targets, they could yet make a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal, Barcelona and Newcastle offer wildcard options and are keen. Liverpool have not approached Sporting but will likely have spoken with Mendes, who is pushing a Spurs move.}


1.) 05 May 2023 07:01:32
I disagree with the eds playing it down, he will be a Liverpool player, we have a good relationship with Brighton also, we are in advanced talk and he will be wearing red next season and not the Brighton away red.


2.) 05 May 2023 11:32:55
What makes you so sure. I think City will get him.


3.) 05 May 2023 12:46:45
Define "advanced talk".


4.) 05 May 2023 07:15:56
Why is he pushing a spurs move? Biggest pay day no doubt? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - That is not the reason.}


5.) 05 May 2023 14:05:17
Flash The Red. ‘Advance talks’ is pretty self explanatory. Don’t think it needs to be defined.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not in any talks with Brighton over Mac Allister.}


6.) 05 May 2023 15:43:50
Ed002, do you see any relationship between MacAllister and Mount for Liverpool? Is MacAllister the primary target for the summer and Mount an alternative, or is the interest in both unrelated?

I find Mount's situation at Chelsea very unpredictable and ambiguous.

Also, getting both would be very expensive.

{Ed002's Note - I would not try and muddy the interest in players. Liverpool were forced in to declaring an interest in Mount. The club are not in any negotiations with Brighton over Mac Aliiister but there is a good chance that an offer will be made.}


7.) 05 May 2023 16:05:01
So, that "advanced" then.
Obviously self explanatory.


8.) 05 May 2023 17:00:32
Flash the red are you serious to be explained what advanced means? Haha get a grip, I think I would believe Fabrizio Romano over Ed apparently to him we ain't signing anyone, I'd love to know his inside info and who his source is? Fabrizio's got good inside info and I just believe this will happen, I think we will have our new players pretty much unavailed at the same time, klopp wants his business done early, let all think positive and good things will come to fruition.


9.) 05 May 2023 18:06:47
ConorsBeard. Fabrizio probably comes on here to see what ED002 is saying. It's clear to see that Ed has a whole array of contacts and people who are "In the know", with the info he gives on here everyday. Its detail you won't find anywhere else.
I like Fabrizio but he's rarely first to report something. He merely repeats what another outlet or journalist has reported.

Signings will be made, and I'm sure ED002 will keep us posted as to what's happening on here, like he usually does!


10.) 05 May 2023 18:36:44
Joey96 you are a comic, get your head out mate you sound rather daft, a leading journalist having less info than an admin on a LFC sight? You sound about 12.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is CB is that hes right mate!, a lot of these journo,s play a guessing game and recycle others information, you only have to see sites like "newsnow" to see these charletan,s plying their trade mate, believe me ED002 is the oracle and provides the best and most accurate information around..


11.) 05 May 2023 19:01:10
What ed25 said.

{Ed025's Note - sometimes joey some posters need to put a face to a name and cant get past that, if you knew the circles ED002 moves in mate you would be astounded..


12.) 05 May 2023 19:46:28
Can’t believe the bare cheek of posters questioning Ed002, I’ve been on these pages, MU mainly, for many years and Ed002 always has it spot on, he’s not going to spout out blow by blow movement of what may or may not happen like a journo would and as a previous poster said and I think other Ed’s have said people come on this site to find out what’s happening and regurgitate it as their own. Big shout to Ed002 and all you Ed’s for the info and insight you provide us.

{Ed025's Note - its unbelievable WRD, we have both been on these pages for longer than we care to mention mate, but the one constant during those years is the amazing information and insight given by ED002, i go on a lot of forums and listen to journo,s all the time and have done for yonks, this guy is definitely No 1..


13.) 05 May 2023 20:21:38
So many posters can’t write “advanced talks”. It kind of made me chuckle. I got what you were getting at Flash. Your humour is not lost with me.


14.) 05 May 2023 20:25:29
I’d maybe suggest to Connors Beard that if he doesn’t agree or rate Eds 02, then he is wasting time on this “sight”

I’d say there is content suitable for Connor on Tw@tter.


15.) 05 May 2023 20:47:40
You have a well developed sense of humour Monty.
Maybe even an "advanced" sense of humour?
And as for Ed002, his insight on this site is out of sight.
And long may it continue.


16.) 05 May 2023 21:46:47
Yeah, I can imagine ed25!
Shoutout to him for all the FREE info.
And to you and all the other eds on here who make this a great forum!

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..


17.) 05 May 2023 16:33:06
Thanks, Ed, have a great weekend!

{Ed002's Note - And you.}


18.) 05 May 2023 17:50:35
Ed2. Flash The Red was being facetious as he always is and asked to define ‘advanced talks’ which again I will reiterate is self pretty explanatory. I never said we were in advanced talks with Brighton over Mac Allister but thanks. I guess.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool need to speak with Brighton to try and sign any of their players. There is no "done deal".}


19.) 05 May 2023 22:45:30
There is nothing more satisfying than when a smart ar*e poster can’t spell in order to make their point.


20.) 06 May 2023 06:35:29
Monty_1981 dyslexia is a real thing so if you get satisfaction from that then you float that boat, I retired at 40 so it doesn't make me stupid, have a nice day, oh and when we sign him I'll be back on, I may even demand a written apology in laminated form.


21.) 06 May 2023 08:39:42
It’s totally fine to have dyslexia mate, but don’t be a kn*b on the site please. Ed2 just passing on info and we should be grateful for it. We live in a world for a self entitlement and some times people forget to be grateful or kind. It’s okay to disagree with something someone says, but you called him out on his own site and tried to belittle him. Like I mentioned above, twitter is maybe a better battleground for you, if you are into arguing with strangers.


22.) 06 May 2023 20:27:24
"Advanced whoosh".


 

 

 

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23 Aug 2024 22:53:17
Rabiot if you actually watch him play / is quick, progressive, strong . & extremely fit- why would you not want him for. Th next 3 years?

Agamemnon

1.) 24 Aug 2024 04:20:25
Because he's not good enough for a team wanting to challenge at the top and that's all there is to it, Agamemnon.
Keep the money, invest it properly, avoid the annoyance of Rabiot's mother, and fire Richard Hughes if he can't secure us some proper targets. Rabiot and the informed of the football world have known he was to leave Juventus since probably late last year - any club wanting him would have had 6 months, at least, to negotiate. Signing him now, for us at least, would be a last-minute panic buy and an admission we (again, and again) failed to secure our targets (like Endo last year, only Endo didn't come with huge wages and an ego to match) .


2.) 24 Aug 2024 06:51:44
Not good enough for a team wanting to challenge? Doesn’t he have 6 League titles, 16 domestic cups and 1 Nations League with France? ?

Sure thing pal, sure thing ??.


3.) 24 Aug 2024 07:49:44
If he was so good he would have been snapped up by now by a team willing to pay his wage demands. Seems like another pogba to me.


4.) 24 Aug 2024 07:58:43
Liverpool made an offer to Rabiot before they bid for Zubemendi so it ain’t a panic decision by any stretch.


5.) 24 Aug 2024 08:11:31
Marquinhos has 9 league titles, Kimpembe has 8. Neither are good enough to warrant us signing them, especially the latter.
I don't care how much Rabiot has won as a professional. John O'Shea and Jonny Evans would go down as better than van Dijk and Konate if that was the barometer.
I watch football and know he's not good enough to improve our team. Do you think Man City, Arsenal or Real Madrid are after Rabiot? Of course not; he's a modern-day Man Utd signing.


6.) 24 Aug 2024 08:12:45
Gotta admit the guys a constant in Frances squad, got to have a little something about him.


7.) 24 Aug 2024 08:29:10
Some of the absolute statements put forward as verified facts…. like, as if title chasing teams have 25 players who are all world class first choice players for any team.


8.) 24 Aug 2024 08:53:41
I’m not mad at the Rabiot links if I’m honest, I don’t believe we will sign him but if we did it wouldn’t be a terrible signing like some are making out. This guy has won wherever he has played, he is strong, combative and wins his duels in the centre of the park. He’s 29 which means he isint blocking youth like bacjetic. Rabiot is left footed and plays accross a number of positions so gives the team/ squad balance and he doesn’t cost the world! People hate on him because of his mother and media reports about transfers and negotiations but to be honest I couldn’t care less, our own players do the exact same and we soon forgive them when the ink is dry, think of Salahs team offering him around to the highest bidder putting out tweets on social, Diaz and his Constant courting of Barca, they all do it!

Again I don’t think we will sign him because I actually don’t think he will choose us but if we did he would be a far better option than Endo!


9.) 24 Aug 2024 09:13:35
Agamemnon, it seems you are working way too hard to convince us thet Rabiot is good enuff. Quick and strong are two things Rabiot has never been accused of being, for starters.

MKS, those titles and Cups he won were with PSG and Juve when they were dominating their league (Juve were cheating for some of those years, btw) . Just like Bayern or yeah Juve, no one cares what PSG wins either so I don't rate that.

The guy ain't good enuff and heaven forbid, we have to deal with his mom. Like @Lowel said, keep the money until you can do better and we can definitely do better than Rabiot, IMO.


10.) 24 Aug 2024 09:41:24
I agree, seems like a typical Man U signing. No point managing the wage bill then bringing in someone who is not top class and giving them huge wages. It’s the wrong message.


11.) 24 Aug 2024 09:50:26
De Bruyne is going to be gutted his League medals don’t count for much because City have dominated our league for years ?.


12.) 24 Aug 2024 09:53:03
Lowe/ Oli, irrelevant on every count. Lowe, you said he’s not good enough for a team that wants to challenge and that’s clearly nonsense because he has 500 games for Juventus, PSG and France in an era where they’ve all not only challenged, but been successful.

I don’t care whether you rate the magnitude of his success, the strength of Serie A/ Ligue 1 etc. the simple FACT is that he played as a regular for 3 sides that have consistently challenged at domestic, European and International level so the initial statement was absolute bollocks.

As for the John O’Shea and Jonny Evan’s line, that’s laughable. They were squad players. Merely cover. Rabiot was a regular starter in all those teams so how is that a legit comparison. A better comparison would be somebody like Michael Carrick or Gary Neville. Was he ever the best player in the team? No. But he was a regular and a key part of the success.


13.) 24 Aug 2024 09:59:40
isn't his wage in the 150k a week range?

I'd assume he'd want more if he moves. Not sure i'd be putting money there unless i knew he was the best we could get.


14.) 24 Aug 2024 10:04:05
Come on guys, seriously have you ever watched a full game with Rabiot? I mean the france stuff is just nonsense, my grand mother would looks great in their midfield with Ngolo Kante running for 3 players! The guy is not quick or strong, and have terrible decision making, shoots when he should pass, passes when he should shoot and is just a big lump with no real outstanding attributes, holds onto the ball for too long and just runs circles around himself (apparently that is skill) The france manager is not that great either, look at the talent at his disposal yet france are almost just as boring as England and keep getting knocked out in quarters and semis'.

Take Rabiot out of the teams that won those trophies and i guarantee those teams would still win those trophies, as a matter of fact i think they would have won them easier without him.

I hope we still go for Ederson, Man Utd are trying to sign him and ed002 says something could be done, why not us? let's go and get him wrapped up if Atalanta are willing to sell him to Manutd!


15.) 24 Aug 2024 10:11:01
Some of the takes on here, man.
Are people that desperate for a signing that Rabiot is now the guy?
Imagine if you'd proposed that at the beginning of July - a load of sales and a sole incoming: Rabiot.
This is not FIFA, where you can coach a team of Andre Wisdom and Danny Guthrie to a 3-0 win at the Etihad.

@Dow-ney
When Rabiot joined Juventus they were on a 10-year winning streak in Serie A. That record lasted a further year and they've been a joke ever since. Signing the likes of Rabiot, Emre Can, De Ligt and other unserious players (which you should be able to see) very quickly reverses the fortune of good teams.


16.) 24 Aug 2024 10:17:08
Rabiot. Last week of the window ? yeh that’s a panic buy. Trying to justify it because you backed Hughes early on and he’s failed.


17.) 24 Aug 2024 10:23:45
Fiskesprett, I presume you’ve had a long and successful managerial career at an elite level then for you to say that Blanc, Emery, Tuchel, Pochettino, Allegri and Deschamps are all so clueless that they consistently picked a player who made their team less likely to win.

As ever, the lack of balance when assessing a potential new player is totally absent from the debate on this site. They’re either the perfect signing and the next Busquets, or an absolute immobile lump who wouldn’t get a game for our u18’s. There is seemingly no in between.


18.) 24 Aug 2024 10:31:34
When Rabiot joined Juventus they were on a 10-year winning streak in Serie A. That record lasted a further year and they've been a joke ever since. Signing the likes of Rabiot, Emre Can, De Ligt and other unserious players (which you should be able to see) very quickly reverses the fortune of good teams.

This! Perfectly said Lowe1FC.

Just throw a bunch of names of teams and managers doesn't make Rabiot any better than he actually is. 90% of the managers you mention are very average overrated managers as well. You could win the CL with Real Madrid and you are just a Super fan on a forum getting his panties in a twist because people think an average player is exactly what he is = AVERAGE.


19.) 24 Aug 2024 10:38:00
If we sign Rabiot then perhaps his mum can do battle with Diaz dad.

Bit of half time entertainment.


20.) 24 Aug 2024 10:56:06
Lowe/ Fisk, I don’t care if you don’t want to sign him and I’m not upset by your opinions. Nobody was calling me a ‘super fan’ last season when I was calling out Klopp and the players for bottling a league title they should’ve won. You both just sound like children and I am embarrassed for you. Saying he’s not even as good as your grandmother and diminishing all his achievements in the sport with whatever excuse you can come up with. Calling him lucky. Calling him a lump. It’s complete and utter hyperbole. If you were being reasonable about it, you might be taken more seriously. I had several very good standard debates about Rabiot last summer with another poster (I think FlyPelicanFly) who disagreed with me then that he would be a good signing. But he did so with a structured and well thought out argument. Another poster made a great point about City winning 6 of the last 7 league titles. So is that it? Are Rodri and De Bruyne also not that great. After all, their success has come in a weak 1 team dominated league as well by your logic.

Juventus fell off a cliff in my opinion mainly because of the Ronaldo show. He did the same to United as well and cost 2 managers their job. Best thing EtH has done as United manager was throw him out the door almost immediately before he caused even more lasting damage. Juventus beat Atalanta in the Italian Cup final last season by the way and Rabiot bossed the midfield against many players (Ederson, Koopmeiners etc) who you’d all be ecstatic if we signed, probably because they’d cost €40-60m.

LFC8, If you look up my posts you’ll see that Rabiot was actually one of my preferred choices last summer when we were looking to buy 3 or 4 midfielders. So this has nothing to do with me wanting to big him up to justify my support for Hughes and Slot. Another poster also pointed out that we’ve been tracking Rabiot all summer and made an offer to him before Zubimendi even. So how is it a panic buy?


21.) 24 Aug 2024 11:02:33
I always like how you bring a sprinkle of humour to a debate, JK.

I honestly don't know enough about Rabiot do join in the debate.

Me and MK don't always agree-in fact we disagreed yesterday-but I have a lot of time for how he presents his argument. Like a high court barister!


22.) 24 Aug 2024 11:19:53
Just throwing insults around again, YES i think most of these managers are average and lucky, you don't know me so stop spouting nonsense. how are you even allowed to keep insulting any opinion just because you are a follower and accept that because someone is in a position of power must mean they are great and know everything.

Rabiot is average, no one said he is the worst player ever or trying to hype him up just like you do, you are actually the one who lacks any sort of balance, its your way or the high way, when your way is often more rose-tinted and delusional most of the time.
Any player looks good with highlight videos, watch a full match, you come here pretending to watch all this football but you know you don't. Because if you did, you would never say Rabiot was a very good footballer.

Calling Zubemendi a flake when ed002 said all along that the player needs convincing and actually never accepted a move to us but was thinking about it. Throwing insults just shows how insecure you are, and no am not a great manager and not a scout but i don't need to be because i focused on more important things in my life, you're acting like life is fair and every one gets what they deserve, not like the WORLD is run by incompetent people who only care about themselves and their pockets and that 90% of the managers you are talking about became managers based on their former careers as great players not because of their amazing tactical knowledge. Again, when you are already in a position of power its easier to get the job! Not like Ancelotti or Dechamps weren't great players or that Zidane wasn't the GOAT. No they got the managerial jobs because they were the absolute best men for the job, nonsense, how naive are you. Ofcourse some will become great but again none of the managers you mention have ever done any managerial miracles. Winning the German league with bayern, winning the world cup with france, winning the CL with Milan then Madrid (Its what is expected when they have the best team possible) I mean Ancelotti's Milan side is could be managed by a donkey and win everything, they litarally had a Legend of the Sport at each position.


23.) 24 Aug 2024 11:22:25
Last word from me on this.
@MK Scouser
De Bruyne and Rodri are great players; Rabiot is not. No other comparisons or false equivalences needed.
"I am embarrassed for you" - then you are (very) easily embarrassed.

@Rome1977
If you think that's the level of a high court barrister, the world should breathe a sigh of relief that you aren't one.


24.) 24 Aug 2024 12:15:03
Unfortunately Rome, if I speak I am in trouble ?.


25.) 24 Aug 2024 16:02:32
Slow your roll, MKS. Why is my comment irrelevant? Is it irrelevant cos you said so? Listen, you may thik Rabiot is good enuff and that's fine. What you're not going to do is start telling people their points are irrelevant. That's not on, mate. And you bigging him up this way, does not suddenly make him better than he actually is. I've known Rabiot since he was in the youth system at PSG and trust me, he ain't that guy.

You may not care about his record of winning trophies playing for the one team that wins in a one team/ farmer's league but the rest of us do. Even worse for you is that him playing in succh teams in a one team league shows he may not be able to hack it in a tougher league with a team that doesn't win all the time. Did you think about/ consider that at all or did you just dismiss other people's points cos you had no retort? Just asking.

Oh wait, scratch that. You're out of the debate so we'll leave it there, then. Peace.


26.) 24 Aug 2024 18:00:43
I don't know why fans are hating on Rabiot, because his mother has a reputation of being hard to deal with. Let Edwards deal with her. We should be judging him on how he plays on the field and to be honest, he is a quality operator I think he would be a great player for us. He would bring us that Physical presence in Midfield that we lacked last season.
I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we bought him in.


 

 

12 Aug 2024 20:26:48
Serious question Ed2;
Why do teams like (say) Chelsea seem to be able to compete transfers so much swifter than us? …is it that they are wealthier, so they just pay what’s asked, as opposed to us trying to barter over the price - or are we using a less skilful/ talented team to deal with this, or - are we trying to buy players that really are not for sal.

Agamemnon

{Ed002's Note - No, it is a sales pitch to players to get them to join. What competitions are you in? What city are you located in? What is the local culture? And it goes on.}


1.) 12 Aug 2024 21:38:17
Are you saying the European Capital of Culture 2008, constant drizzle and a bowl of Scouse isn’t appealing to players Ed?


2.) 12 Aug 2024 22:12:34
Indeed, Ed02. Even when you have these nice proposals, it doesn’t automatically mean the players is guaranteed to join either. Something like the amount of game time promised is also very important.

Not bothered with what other clubs do and how they attract players cos it’s not an exact science. It is also important to know that players reject rival clubs like Chelsea or Liverpool all the time, as well. It is what it is.

{Ed002's Note - Few clubs give guarantees of game time.}


 

 

26 Jul 2024 19:19:52
I think an outstanding DM would would solve so many of our defensive issues and really help with ball retention if that’s Slots tactic - just imagine Rodri in our team last year, nothing against Endo as I rate him- it’s just that’s the area that the ‘next level’ DM can improve us and at the same time help Quansa and extend VVDs career, as they’d be under less pressure.
No idea if we want one or who we could/ might get, but it’s the key to a great team in mho, eg; Gerrard, Keane, Robson, Reid, Souness, McMahon, Viera, Rodri, et al.

Agamemnon

1.) 26 Jul 2024 19:52:01
I keep seeing people say we need a defensive midfielder but who exactly? Who is the defensive midfielder that is world class defensively whilst also being good enough on the ball for a team that has the majority of possession in 90% of the games they play?


2.) 26 Jul 2024 20:16:41
You’ve drunk Viktor’s Koolade then.


3.) 26 Jul 2024 20:45:37
Rather let Bajectic develop under Endo. I think Endo continues to be quite underrated on here. He's a solid player with better vision and passing range than he's given credit for.


4.) 26 Jul 2024 21:15:55
Thunderbird 2, you ain't never lied. We hear the same thing all the time. "Oh, A Rodri type player is who we need", "We should be looking to bring in a top class, athletic, and bruising DM who is great on the ball to come in and . " etc. Does the latter exist or do we have to create him in a lab somwhere?

So since there is only one Rodri (or Rice), maybe we should actually start coming up actual names of these human beings at the DM position we can get that can do all this "Rodri" or "Rice" type stuff so we can discuss the topic a lot deeper. Now wee can always create our own model of DM that can do all this stuff in a lab somewhere in Siberia somewhere. That would be nice.


5.) 26 Jul 2024 21:22:28
The best hybrid type of centre midfielder who can play defensive midfielder is Ederson from Atalanta, defensively strong, great on the ball, mobile and physically strong, but that’s not going to happen.

We’ll either recruit extremely badly with someone like Kimmich or Rabiot or we’ll stick with what we have, in either case we’re not title contenders.


6.) 26 Jul 2024 21:40:24
Considering last season was Endo’s first in England I thought he did really well.

{Ed025's Note - i would say...relatively well Ron..


7.) 26 Jul 2024 22:46:57
2 seasons ago after the quadruple season we were in a similar boat. Lots of fans wanted the midfield improved and the fans that didn’t said that we’ve just competed for a quadruple so we didn’t need signings and we all know what happened next.

I’m not saying history will repeat itself but there’s also no guarantee that just because we were 3rd last season does it mean we will be competing next.

This is a huge step up for Slot and I’ve seen loads say that he has a track record for improving players but I’d argue there’s more evidence out there of Klopp improving and getting more out of players.

Slots 100% got my backing and I think it’s going to take him time to make his mark on this league which is a league that Klopp only won once in 9 years. And that’s despite him being regarded as the best manager in the world by many.


8.) 26 Jul 2024 23:05:29
Hard to suggest a player when we don’t actually know the Style of play we’re going to be using. But after tonight, we will have an idea.


9.) 27 Jul 2024 02:08:11
Just realised this when re-reading the post again but how did you list Gerrard as a "next level" DM? We were extremely open when we played him there and our strategy then was to outscore the opponent. He is a great player but a DM he is not.


10.) 27 Jul 2024 06:36:30
Varela would be a fine addition, would love to see an Argentinian spine through the middle of our team.


11.) 27 Jul 2024 10:24:07
Nonsense Ed Endo was excellent in most games and was arguably our best signing last year. I’d go for Mac personally, but Endo was fantastic and went toe to toe with some of the best in our games.

{Ed025's Note - he done ok for me FK nothing special but never let the team down, lets not go overboard though mate he is a stopgap and for a team who are looking to challenge for major honours he is not the answer im afraid, we all see what we want to see i suppose and thats fine by me..


12.) 27 Jul 2024 12:26:10
Rubbish Dracred, Gerrard played deep a number of times for Liverpool successfully. It was also a fruitful period there when he played for England.


 

 

25 Jun 2024 21:26:49
Been super impressed with Guehi, efficient and fuss free, plays on left side and quick for a team that plays a high line….

Agamemnon

1.) 25 Jun 2024 21:57:43
Agree. A top class player in the making. Expensive but it’s a 10 year investment.


2.) 25 Jun 2024 21:57:48
Best England player so far. Not hard I know.


3.) 25 Jun 2024 22:00:02
He’s terrible in the air and short for a centre back, plus there’s the English tax.


4.) 25 Jun 2024 22:01:55
Thought he was average and almost gave a goal to the other team. Would be torn to shreds once decent competition emerges.


5.) 25 Jun 2024 22:16:31
He didn't almost give a goal to the other team. It was miles away from goal when he misjudged that ball.


6.) 25 Jun 2024 22:29:03
Well that’s ok then Rigsby lucky it was the 6 foot 4 guy not mbappe as that would have been that, playing 3 games against mediocre opponents I could have played that match and looked half decent.


7.) 25 Jun 2024 22:47:34
colonel, I thought you knew it wasn't Mbappe when you said Guehi almost gave a goal away. In your defence, that mask Mbappe is wearing could cause confusion.


8.) 26 Jun 2024 09:30:57
Guehi is a good CB but he’s not fully fit or match sharp. He has been playing really well then dropping a clanger in a momentary lapse of concentration or by making a poor decision.

Against Denmark it’s been totally glossed over, but he ran the ball down a blind alley that resulted in a throw in, in the defensive third. That pressure led to their goal as England never cleared their lines from his initial mistake. Last night he also played a loose pass straight to their attacking midfielder which resulted in a chance being conceded. He also got caught wrong side after indecision on the half way line and had to take a yellow card for dragging the forward down.

Keep in mind, the guy started 1 game for Palace in the 2nd half of the season after Knee surgery. Southgate is again at fault for picking a player who isn’t fit or in form.


9.) 26 Jun 2024 11:45:14
Said it before, i'll say it again, £60m plus Kelleher for Eze and Guehi, half the summer done in one deal.


10.) 26 Jun 2024 12:03:09
Guehi is a good CB normally. However, he is struggling in this tournament and looks out of sorts and unfit, IMO.


11.) 26 Jun 2024 12:04:42
I’d agree with that MK.

The same goes for Trippier. A right footed, right full back playing left back who was absolutely stinking the place out in the second half of the season at Newcastle. How on earth is he in the squad never mind starting games?

I know we aren’t blessed in the left backs but Gomez played at left back for a large portion of the season in a team that was at the top of the league. Surely it makes more sense to play someone who’s played the position consistently and played it well rather than someone who hasn’t played the position all season and has been absolute garbage in his own position?

We are just fortunate that the teams we’ve played so far have been rubbish and not put us under much pressure. As soon as we come up against an above average team they will destroy that defence.

Guehi has done ok but I fear he will be fed to the wolves as soon as we are put under pressure as he’ll get no help from those around him.


12.) 26 Jun 2024 12:20:33
"The same goes for Trippier. A right footed, right full back playing left back who was absolutely stinking the place out in the second half of the season at Newcastle. How on earth is he in the squad never mind starting games? "


You can add Walker to that as well, BP BUT hey, who are we to speak about these things?


13.) 26 Jun 2024 14:15:24
I agree Oli but at least Walker played some games in the position he plays for England in a team that won the league.

Trippier played right back for Newcastle who had a very poor season and he did it very badly. If that’s the level you need to be at to get into the England squad at a major tournament he might as well have picked Philips too. Then he can stop his whining about missing Philips in a back handed way of throwing other players under the bus.


14.) 26 Jun 2024 14:28:58
Gomez being second in the pecking order behind Trippier really is madness, BP. Southgate picks players on reputation rather than form.


15.) 26 Jun 2024 16:17:02
PatrikBurgher, ya think? It's the MO of the Waist Coat, man. Nobody can explain what he is doing. Not sure he can, either.


 

 

02 Jul 2023 13:38:08
Great post MK, my thoughts too! …. nearly £750 million spent, but when you factor in to the equation the sales (Coutinho especially), the owners have run the business well in my opinion, it’s not a charity or a Sheiks plaything - so we are lucky to be ‘up there challenging with a genuine chance to win something’ whilst still balancing the books!

Agamemnon

1.) 02 Jul 2023 14:18:50
Cheers mate. I totally agree. If you had offered me 8 trophies, multiple European finals, numerous genuine title races and getting to watch Suarez and Salah score 30 goals a season way back in 2011 when we were mid table with Hodgson/ Shelvey and in administration, I'd have bitten your hand off.


2.) 02 Jul 2023 16:30:21
We’re not challenging tho are we? So whilst I’m happy with FSG investment in this window it still doesn’t discount a written off season prior due to lack of investment.


 

 

 

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29 Oct 2024 18:11:15
Rigg does look a class act, I’ve watched him a fair bit and he does appear to have plenty of development potential despite being very good already. I’d be disappointed if Utd got him rather than us, but we can’t have everyone- just think he’d be more suited to us than the young players we have already.
As always, not all great young prospects in the lower tiers can swim in the very top league, it’s a tough school!

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24 Jul 2024 12:02:46
I did search ‘Matt O’Riley’ and nothing came up but no worries, I’ll keep my fingers crossed :)

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25 Jun 2024 08:06:36
Thanks Ed, would have loved him with us.

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15 Jan 2022 01:37:33
Guys, remember we bought the worlds best goalie AND the worlds best centre back not so long ago and City/ PSG/ RM/ Barca were alive and kicking at the time!
There is a global C.V. and millions upon millions of people are dying…& unfortunately it’s affecting our owners finances…. but look at the history of their ownership, if they can strengthen us - they will.
They are smart business men and know Jurgen is only guaranteed to be here for another couple of years and he is the BEST manager, so they will try their best to. Support his rebuild - it’s in their interests, but if they can’t - they can’t.
A family member was commercial director of the FA years ago and went off to South Africa to run the World Cup for them, he has given me a small insight into the mechanics of football club ownership and the risks for owners appear to be simply terrifying, you would be laughed out of dragons den if you pitched the idea of ownership,

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27 Jul 2024 11:40:29
Good point.

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13 Jan 2022 23:08:03
We had 17 shots tonight……1 on target.

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09 Jan 2022 13:18:00
Ed’s; I understand fsg run Liverpool in a ‘self sufficient’ manner and it’s an investment for them, not a ‘toy’, however is it unreasonable to think they may loan the club funds for a transfer, in order to protect their investment long term, the funds being more than recouped if/ when they sell a more successful club?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not self-sufficient and already have significant debts, including to the owners. Money will be tight as the pandemic has taken a huge toll.}


 

 

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08 Jan 2022 16:24:59
Hope it’s Paul Glatzel, to help cover forward line, he looked a huge prospect b4 his injury and is now fully recovered and doing well on loan.

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