Liverpool banter 10

04 Dec 2025 09:20:04
I paused last night and didn’t post because I was half in shock at that performance but to also give it time to process this sh** show.

Given the pressure the manager is under and all the scrutiny the squad is getting I fully expected us to go out for the late kick off under the lights at Anfield and put them under some serious pressure. What we got was a tepid, sideways, backwards low tempo masterclass on how to kill momentum. Make no mistake we were fully controlled and dominated by a promoted side at home. Only for a last ditch stop from Chiesa we would and should have been beaten! This result should not be allowed to paper over any cracks. Our manager is starting to sound like ETH where he rewrites the narrative of the game when we all have eyes and can see the problems! The manager needs to go, honestly the press in the 1st half is enough to get any manager the sack, absolutely embarrassing, personally I don’t think there is a fitness issue or mobility issue there is a space issue, the gap from front to back is way to much, defence is dropping off, attackers pushing up and our midfield in no mans land isolated so we are never close enough to make an effective tackle. Compound all this with crazy subs, square pegs in round holes and a team that are clearly after downing tools and all u can say is the writing is on the walls, only question is when do the exec team shoot the bullet?

04 Dec 2025 10:19:05
Dow-ney

Agreed ??

What does our alleged manager say after the match.? "There were positives. "

The only positive can be that Slot goes ASAP.

04 Dec 2025 10:22:15
How can a team of so called elite management get it so wrong nearly every game. They (and I say they because it’s not just Slot) come up with those horrendous tactics last night. We are at home to a newly promoted team and got done.

We were so lucky that chiesa hasn’t down tools otherwise it would have been another loss. Slots responds” we were unlucky “ grow some balls and sack them, this includes the fitness coach!

04 Dec 2025 09:52:11
I might go PopWorld tonight and have a word with him

No doubt he’ll be in there ?.

04 Dec 2025 10:55:52
Downey, I was going to post the exact same thing. Like you, I've had it up to my eyeballs with this wretched system. It is literally sucking the life out of me. I watched that game and it reminded me of BR's pathetic "pass, pass, pass and then, "recycle possession" and then, rinse then, repeat of 14/ 15.

Seriously, how can you try to break down a team without making them think?

a) How can you try to beat the opposition with no incisive passing hence, making them commit?

b) How can you play such a slow, lethargic system where the only thing we are good that is "making sure we do NOT lose the ball"?

Had Sunderland won that game (which they should have), it would have been so fitting. The only thing better than that was that it was Chiesa who (not for the first time) saved his blushes from abject humiliation, as if the battering from PSV didn't already do that.
Let's be clear: Chiesa embarrassed Slot for the whole world to see and I loved it cos he has treated this true gent like floor rag all season. There's a reason a whole stadium sings his name when his name is announced or when he goes to warm up.

Now you say this reminds you of Ten Hag at Utd and I get it. For me, this reminds me of BR circa 14/ 15 where he knew his system was useless BUT cos his ego won't make him change, he kept playing it just to prove a point that he was competent whereas he was the Emperor with NO clothes.

Hence from last night on, I am officially checked out. This season is a write off cos to me, Slot will NOT change how we play. He seems to be out to prove us all wrong rather than do what is best for the team and make us a competitive team, something we all know we can be as shown this season already vs Villa and RM.

Therefore, he is only out for himself and once that happens, a manager loses my support and once that happens, Get Out Of My Club.

Thankfully as I will never want my team to lose so the manager should go, the club are assessing their options so at least, we know they are not fools and can see what we all see so Im fine with that.

All about the vibes for me now. We win? Great. We don't win? Such is life.

Oh, and one last thing. Good luck at Elland Road come Sun., Arne. If you think Leeds can't embarrass you like they did Chelsea then, you are off your meds.

04 Dec 2025 11:53:51
It is a half arse press.

Isak and Wirtz doing a lot of running being played around like monkey in sunderland training session with 1/ 3 of Anfield pitch with no one backing them up.

Clearly the midfield and defence being asked to drop back, either afraid that Sunderland will players through us or play over us.

Unbelievable what I’m watching.

04 Dec 2025 12:47:06
It’s funny you mention it with the press. Graeme Le Saux said it during the match last on Peacocks Broadcast. Flat out said LFC is all about pressure and making teams uncomfortable when visiting Anfield yet this team has completely changed from last year.

There’s no sustained press, they look disjointed and slow to everything, you wouldn’t believe they were the same team from last year. Slot needs to go back to basics from last year. He further said how can they not see the difference from last year.

04 Dec 2025 14:40:49
BERGENRED, I have no idea why people seem shocked that we aren't pressing anymore. IMO, the last time (s) we had a full press in a game was against Villa and RM, games where ironically, we played the system that won us the title last season. Ain't seen a full press since.

Also, I disagree with Le Saux (awesome guy and a good pundit), too) . Slot does see the diff. from last season. The issue here is that he NO longer wants to play that way anymore except when forced to do so like Villa and RM.

I asked Ed01 this specific question and he confirmed it. Per Ed01 indeed, this slow, regressive "sucking the life out of me" type footie is THE way Slot really wants to play and come hell or high water (regardless of the humiliations we keep getting), he is sticking with it, as shown last season. So we are now being subjected to wretched footie with the batterings that come with it just so he can prove a point? Nah, ain't having it.

Like I said in my post, Slot is trying to prove those who question his tactics wrong. Trying to say that only he and his bros. in the staff know best and the rest of us who question him are all fools who don't know what they are seeing. Many managers have done this so Slot is not a new phenomenon here.

So for me, the guy can flex his ego and all that BUT not at the expense of my club. Go do that elsewhere, mate. That's all Im saying, respectfully.

04 Dec 2025 08:48:03
How long can Slot stay in the job, we are getting worse and worse.
We ain’t getting top 4 at this rate.

04 Dec 2025 09:40:15
Because there's two men equal to his level above.

04 Dec 2025 10:21:45
"Ain't getting too 4 at this rate. "

Getting a big fat zero instead.

The manager seems so pleased with himself.

04 Dec 2025 10:56:50
To me, Slot will go when the board says so and not before. It's the way the club operate, based on precedent.

04 Dec 2025 11:32:43
Oli, isn't that the way every club operates, or am I missing something? They certainly don't react to a few folk whingeing on a fans forum.

04 Dec 2025 14:43:16
You're right, Rome. They don't and they shouldn't.

04 Dec 2025 07:54:49
Really poor again last night. Been to every home game bar Madrid so far this season and I would say that’s one of the worst I’ve watched. Results might have been worse in others but at least you felt we may score a few and give ourselves a chance in some of them, last night we created literally nothing.

The substitutions are so so poor at the moment, and the system is just blowing me mind. First half Wirtz was picking up good pockets and the solution to this was to stick him wide left and put szobo who’s movement had been decent as well into the ten. It completely backfired and until we were desperate with ten to go it was so hard to watch.

The system of having fairly one footed full backs who can put a decent ball in but are not great passers and ball players generally like Robbo, Gomez and kerkhez inverting while we have players like salah and Wirtz trying to cut in our side just makes no sense whatsoever. There was a passage of play where we had the ball for 5 mins in the second half and it was constantly wirtz wide left knocking the ball the robbo on the edge and I just couldn’t believe what I was watching it’s so basic and obvious that those two should be swapped.

04 Dec 2025 07:22:39
It’s got to the point where we are Worse at home.

It’s so slow. It’s boring. Formation and Style don’t suit the current squad.

The plan: Just Crawl to January and throw more money at it.

04 Dec 2025 09:11:04
Am fuming with what’s happening to our club. How long is Hughes going to leave it before slot gets sacked. I’d I’ve let under 21 manager have a go because Nothing is changing, absolutely nothing. It’s got to the point where am thinking Hughes isn’t the right person either if he’s just going to keep letting this happen.

We are literally a laughing stock from tactics to fitness to subs It’s beyond embarrassing.

04 Dec 2025 09:36:19
Alex, I was there with you last night, stood on the Kop. Is your feeling the same as mine, that he still has the backing of the home support? I know talking to blokes he still has the backing of the away following. His song was sang yesterday, albeit not that vociferous. Call it blind faith, or whatever, but everyone I speak to can't think of anyone who can come in, who can turn things around, that's available.

After the PSV game I said on here that it was perhaps time for a change, but I've since shifted back to supporting him again, purely because there's no Klopp or Ancelotti to turn to, like in 2015.

I honestly don't know what the answer is. I'll turn up for the Brighton game, with 60k others, expecting to see an improvement, and so on and so on. I, along with everyone else on here, never saw this coming. We can only have hope in our hearts. Blah de blah.

04 Dec 2025 11:00:30
For me, it is up to the point that I am now personally checked out of this season. That performance is the way Slot wants to play and I just can stand the life being sucked out of me watching my club play such clueless, pathetic style where the aim is to keep the ball rather than actually try to win the damn game.

I will never want my team to lose so the manager can go BUT as long as we are looking to replace this geezer then, Im cool with that cos in the end, he will eventually go. Enjoy the vibes cos this season is a write off, IMO.

04 Dec 2025 11:32:49
Rome, I agree, there's no Klopp or equivalent stature out there, but Iraola would be available. They just need to put that wheel in motion. That could be done quite quickly I would imagine. I know they may pine for Alonso but 1.

It might never happen 2. He'd be no more a guarantee of success than Iraola. They're all just gambles one way or another, but as Donald would say "you don't have the cards" for success if we stick with Slot. Unfortunately.

04 Dec 2025 18:07:20
I’ll be honest Rome, I think the atmosphere was the worst I have ever heard it last night.

Support is a tricky one, I don’t think we are the type of fans to hunt a manager out of call for it but I feel that the whole team is that poor and the season drifting away that people just aren’t feeling the passion or hunger or excitement anymore.

When the goal went in for Sunderland it was a flat silent acceptance and even when we scored, there were celebrations but nothing really over the top. And the only real noise was made in the last five until then I hadn’t heard much atmosphere to speak of, certainly not compared to some of last season and the klopp seasons.

04 Dec 2025 07:37:30
Shout to Chiesa. Thing he deserves his own thread for that effort alone

Was heartening to see the fight from the player, especially given the lack of trust and game time he gets while others who play ahead of him stink out the joint again and again and again.

04 Dec 2025 07:52:05
He embodies the spirit the team requires and deserves a chance. Thought it was a very poor performance all round but Gakpo was really not good. Maybe Chiesa in for Gakpo against Leeds?

04 Dec 2025 07:59:27
It’s a complete joke slot never plays him from the start Sunderland should of won that game we are so slow and boring too watch I even turned off the TV SLOT OUT.

04 Dec 2025 08:26:32
As above turned off at half time, the play is so dour it’s unbelievable with the players we have, slot oot.

04 Dec 2025 08:54:17
Chiesa is not the second coming of jesus. What has he done of note other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort. He tries hard and it is great to see but that’s the bare minimum we should expect off players earning hundred of thousands a week.

A lot of people looking to Chiesa’s absence as a factor to why we are playing poorly yet forget the sitters he missed. I love the guy’s enthusiasm but he’s not much different to Harvey Elliot who also looked top notch when he was brought on in the 81st minute.

04 Dec 2025 10:06:42
What has he done other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort?

lol, this online comment version of Slot's football at the mo. I'm switching off at half-time from replying to you any further lol

Nah jokes, just to explain - NO ONE IS SAYING HE IS THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS.

But! in a squad, we expect competition, players vying for starting spots, players taking chances when they get them. If you are making the case that Chiesa has not made the most of the very limited chances he has been given this season, then I think you must be in the Slot school of favouritsm for a small group of select players.

We want to see players rewarded for playing well. We don't want to see players consistently rewarding for play sh*t

Chiesa has done more than enough this season to earn more minutes than the garbage time he is given. That isn't saying he is prime Ronaldo, it's saying that we have a squad so f***ing use the players at your disposal.

04 Dec 2025 10:27:34
also - what are all these sitters that Chiesa has missed? and ironic bringing up harvey. Slot should have used Harvey more last season too.

04 Dec 2025 10:33:10
Darwin. In his VERY limited minutes he has scored goals, assisted goals, created chances, prevented goals and most importantly he has given 100%. He works his ar$e off and is the embodiment of all of the good things that the rest of the squad are currently severely lacking in. The fact that he is not given a single start in a game over the likes of Gakpo is quite frankly outrageous. The only time he gets to start a game is surrounded by U21 players.

When you have the likes of Virg, Konate, Macca, Gakpo and Salah walking around the pitch and stealing a wage week-in-week-out it jut makes no sense. What we are so severely lacking is players with the hunger and desire of Chiesa in the team. It might be that he is best as an impact sub but he can't be any worse that what Slot is repeatedly selecting.

04 Dec 2025 11:14:20
Darwin respectfully, I ain't trying to hear no chat/ slander of any kind about Chiesa right now esp. after he literally embarrassed Slot for the whole world to see. Imagine trying to project this very good player and and even better gentleman, that he is arse yet when we see him play he gives WAY more effort than some of those proposed to be better than him? That is what Slot is doing and failing it, really.

Chiesa could have quit on the play last night BUT due to his immense mentality and desire NOT to lose, he kept up with the play and foiled it. If you think anyone would have blamed Chiesa for not stopping the goal then, you are gravely mistaken.

Also, the whole "Chiesa is not the second coming. " or the "What has he done? . " blah, blah, blah is just a waste of typing time. Not a soul has said Chiesa was the second coming of diddly squat. Nor have I seen anyone say his absence is the so stop posting stuff nobody actually said.

All people are saying is that they want Chiesa to get the same chances others like Gakpo and even Salah are getting so we can see what he can do esp. since when he comes on, he plays well and scores/ assists on occasion. He clearly can't be that bad cos NOBODY is that good in the attack right now. Please respectfully, try to distinguish the difference.

04 Dec 2025 11:36:24
I can’t recall Chiesa missing a hatful of chances, I can however recall him making a difference in games and showing skill, guile, determination and grit, actually trying to make things happen.

Fact is, if he didn’t make that lung bursting run we lose 2-1 at home. Thank f someone hat the minerals to actually do it. Not often I agree with you Faith, but I absolutely do here.

04 Dec 2025 12:20:55
@Faithinworks. What has he done other than score a couple of goals and run around making lots of effort? You haven’t responded.

Great lung-bursting run from him last night but i don't see why he people are so insistent he’s some kind of unheralded messiah. He tries really hard but that attribute isn’t exceptional, it is expected. He also has more energy because he only plays 10 mins a week. I like him as a player but i don’t see the hype.

@Olired. Respectfully, stopped reading past the first line of your posts years ago.

04 Dec 2025 12:50:11
I was that fed up with the team I support that I turned the telly off.

There’s irony in there somewhere.

04 Dec 2025 15:00:33
Nice dodge, mate. If you can't respond to the facts I put out (supported by other posters like Victor, Faith, Shipley etc. ) then, you could just say so rather than issue such a pathetic dodge.

Your response clearly shows that Slot is not the only one Chiesa embarrassed last night at this point. Sad for both of you.

And one last thing: You have responded to my posts in the recent past so I know you read this one.

04 Dec 2025 06:54:27
The only game I’ve enjoyed watching this calendar year was the Madrid game. I’ve now fallen into the acceptance that we’re likely to lose whenever we play at the moment. We need a bit of spark and identity back as currently we’re losing all of that which took a long time to be rebuilt by Klopp.

04 Dec 2025 09:12:03
Didn't enjoy beating Spurs 5-1 to clinch the league title earlier this year then?

04 Dec 2025 09:40:57
Funnily enough we conceded first in that game as well.

04 Dec 2025 10:23:18
Good question, Semi.

04 Dec 2025 10:27:05
Nope, hated it.

04 Dec 2025 11:37:45
To paraphrase the vacuous Tim Lovejoy, it’s only Spurs.

04 Dec 2025 13:22:36
Apparently that was a snooze fest, @Semi. Best snooze fest I ever enjoyed watching personally.

I'll take that over the "pulsating" spectacle I was subjected to last night, I'll tell you that much.

04 Dec 2025 07:21:09
What are the board seeing that we are not. Its the same thing over and over and over. Same tactics ( what ever they are ) same dull tempo, no drive no energy. The training these players are doing but consist of yoga and meditation as there won't be any hard running. I thought they all look throughly fed up last night. They have had enough of this tripe now as well. They need to ignore what Slot is saying and go out there and play. Passing slowly side ways for 90 mins does nothing .

Shout out to Fede who yet again was fantastic when he came on. That defending at the end was exactly what we needed. Slot needs to go, not at the end of the season, now. Leeds will bully Liverpool at the weekend . All they will do is be agressive, be in Liverpools face and push on and that will be enough. Liverpool are powder puff right now and can't handle that. Leeds are 3/ 1 to win, get on that as they are huge odds for any team playing against this awful Liverpool side right now.

04 Dec 2025 10:37:25
Maybe they are waiting for the right replacement? Carra did suggest this a week or so ago.

04 Dec 2025 13:25:26
@Kim, I think they see it hence why, Ed01 have reported that they are assessing their options as to who should come in to replace Slot. However, they will not act on yours, mine or on anyone else's time. That's just the way they do things. Patience is needed here.

I for one, am resigned to just watching my team play and hope they win even tho, I now want the manager gone cos he won't change and is still trying to prove a point that his system works rather than change to one that makes us better. All vibes for me now from now till May, mate. It is what it is.

04 Dec 2025 13:30:20
Exactly, Ernest. They will not rush to dop anything until the right person is found. Not before and their history on this topic is pretty clear.

04 Dec 2025 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Matchday 13 - Quick Round Up

04 Dec 2025 06:13:10
Hello Eds when do players look at the critism aimed at them individually/ team and the manager and go . boys we are better then this and start playing at a better version of themselves
If People from outside can see surely players with 10 20 years of exp feel eveeyday that current tactics are not working.


Are they not allowed to critize and discuss the tactics with coaching team?

{Ed001's Note - that is what is known as the manager losing the dressing room.}

04 Dec 2025 07:42:03
There was effort last night, but clearly a lack of quality and confidence and disjointed effort if that makes sense. The press was really uncoordinated . Ed do you know whether he’s lost the dressing room in the sense that they’re deliberately not playing their best or is it a loss of individual and team confidence type thing?

{Ed001's Note - I believe it is the latter.}

04 Dec 2025 10:06:13
Hard to get that back, either when confidence goes in yourself or your leader. Tough times at the minute.

04 Dec 2025 13:26:35
Disjointed effort is not effort. It's called panic and that is down to the manager.

04 Dec 2025 05:07:00
With The Jan market coming up which players or positions do you feel we need new players in.
Even before the season started my concern for the lack of CB, s has yet again came back to haunt us like it has for the last few years. So for me we need to bring in at least 2 new CB's and ideally another CB/ CDM or CD/ RB.

Finally we are struggling a bit down the Left channel since Diaz Left. We are certainly fine up front but we need to find that younger replacement for Salah and someone who can also defend a bit. YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 06:42:21
For me CB and CDM are absolute musts. Slots days are numbered and those are the areas of current relative weakness regardless of tactical set up in this league. If we strengthen at CB, perhaps replace Macca (RM bound? ) with an energetic all action destroyer like Ederson or someone like that and set the team up to play to their strengths, I fully believe this is a team capable of challenging on all fronts.

Punching well below our weight right now.

04 Dec 2025 07:28:56
We are Westwood, no doubt. Of the teams above us I’d say Arsenal are better coached and have bought better. City are better coached, they’ve bought ok but not brilliantly, but are probably second best all round set up right now. Villa are the slight surprise, Emery should get a lot of credit for that as I don’t think their squad is so great. Chelsea possibly slightly better squad in some areas than ours, but not sure about their coach.

Apart from those four I’m not convinced there’s anyone we couldn’t be above in the table even though we are majorly in transition. The others like Palace and Sunderland are good hardworking teams with solid defence but nothing like our attacking depth.

Why isn’t Emery getting more plaudits? Is it an age and profile thing. Because he’s not a trendy young coach with a lot to say he’s not on the list for any other top jobs.

{Ed025's Note - because he looks like Count Dracula?.. :)

04 Dec 2025 08:13:28
Love it Ed025 ?.

04 Dec 2025 10:04:27
True that Ed. I wouldn’t mind Count Dracula in the midfield right now, to add a bit of bite. Arguably Arteta could be Eddie Munster and Arne and Pep could be festers. I can see a whole show forming.

{Ed025's Note - at least we know Cody is a vampire Hugo..he seems to hate crosses mate.. :)

04 Dec 2025 10:44:31
Emerys teamtalks are very Blah - blah - blah -blah by all accounts!

04 Dec 2025 13:27:52
Still rate Unai, Ed25. The guy knows his stuff. Some may think he is not cut out for the big jobs which is fair. However, always rated his overall coaching ability since his Sevilla days, personally.?

{Ed025's Note - hes a good manager Oli and his teams are very well set up, i just dont know if he fits the brief myself mate..

04 Dec 2025 15:03:16
Have you been in any of his team talks, Cantremember?

Or is this 10,000th hand information?

04 Dec 2025 21:30:16
Sorry Oli. Dracula. Blah-blah blah blah. Obviously you don’t have kids. Hotel Transylvania.

04 Dec 2025 22:27:33
For me the jan window is all about bringing in a manager no1 priority never mind players this is the start of our downfall if we do not address the situation now before it is to late.
Arne is turning in ETH he can't see or won't see
the dross we are playing and believes he is doing a fantastic job.


Thank you Arne but your time is up and for the club never employ a Dutch manger again please. YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 05:00:11
What we see is proof that Slots been rumbled and we are easy to play against, no team should walk into Anfield as favourites let alone a promoted team but that's what Slots produced a fool that thinks his tactics and his coaching won us the prem, if not for the passion and desire of an un fancied un liked Chiesa we lose that game but passion and desire on the pitch is the 1% of a missing ingredient that's needed to win games and to inspire a performance from others, Slots installed an entitled attitude in the players a turn up.

play well play his way and we are going to be too strong. Never seen a team like Forest or Sunderland walk off at Anfield having no fear against us. Poor form the buck stops with Slot for his treatment of Chiesa, Endo, Elliot. Clearly he don't rate em but he's saying taking credit for Chiesa, what a tool he is.

04 Dec 2025 09:14:39
You come on here at 5 am for that? Did you go to sleep last night?

04 Dec 2025 13:28:41
"Clearly he don't rate em but he's saying taking credit for Chiesa, what a tool he is. "


This!

04 Dec 2025 16:52:40
Fbart, what Chiesa did last night is the reason he should be starting. I don’t want to talk bad on any players but how Cody gets in over Chiesa at the moment is baffling.

Even if Chiesa was on the pitch the first 60ish and Cody comes on for the rest. Chiesa is bringing grit, energy and bravery onto the porch every time he steps onto it.

04 Dec 2025 02:19:35
If we lose at Leeds Slot will be pumped!

04 Dec 2025 02:35:02
I'm hoping in the morning he's sacked. It should've been done weeks ago.

04 Dec 2025 03:32:35
Has to go. Basically gives up half a game every week by letting the players stroll around. May as well just forward to the 2nd half when we start playing with any amount of intensity. So poor.

04 Dec 2025 05:46:47
I’m not one to judge lads. What happens at Elland Road stays at Elland Road.

04 Dec 2025 05:48:25
And what we if we don't lose?
Then we continue to kick the can down the road.

Slot is not getting the best out of these players, and there are no signs of him actually changing anything.

Players playing out of position is not going to get the right results.

04 Dec 2025 06:06:23
He won't though. He'll be here on January the 1st plodding along by getting 3 points here and there.

04 Dec 2025 07:57:09
Endo3, I think you're right, mate. People don't like it on here, but he's still got the backing of the majority of supporters.

04 Dec 2025 08:03:53
Exactly, Plod ball pays dividends 1/ 5 games, otherwise it is totally inappropriate for this league.
Will we have to endure a whole season of this?

04 Dec 2025 02:01:14
Carra, got to believe Slot’s time is almost up. I hate it as I had hoped he could turn it around. Not looking good for him.