Liverpool banter 9

04 Dec 2025 15:51:49
Hi Ed001

Do you happen to know how much time Arne Slot actually spends at/ in Liverpool? As he seems to be jetting off to Holland and Dubai at every available opportunity.

{Ed001's Note - no, sorry, I don't keep that close tabs on him. It is clearly not enough though when things are going wrong. You have to be a leader and show that you are putting in the work if you are going to ask others to do so.}

04 Dec 2025 15:24:45
If only Pleasure Rooms was still there ?.

04 Dec 2025 16:35:55
Weak leadership from Slot all round sadly.

04 Dec 2025 16:47:06
He’s down Beefa being a final boss and havin’ it havin’ it havin’ it.

04 Dec 2025 18:20:55
Where is the proof he's jetting off at every opportunity?

04 Dec 2025 18:24:39
There isn’t any Rome but that really matter.

04 Dec 2025 18:50:42
So now we're at the stage of suggesting the Slot doesn't even turn up for work?

Lads, there are plenty of good reasons to be unhappy with Slot without needing to invent stuff.

04 Dec 2025 21:40:04
Rome . he's making a fortune on the duty free.

04 Dec 2025 14:09:05
Hiya Ed's and Reds I hope everyone is doing well ? Going by what Ed001 has stated earlier looks like ain't leaving us anytime soon. Hughes and Edwards are backing him for better or worse but he's their man so they really have to back him no choice I suppose.

So where does that leave us as fan's? Probably in a rubber room with some sort of breakdown. Who'd be a Liverpool fan eh ?‍♂️.

04 Dec 2025 14:15:42
They'll pull the trigger Barry or else they'll find themselves in an even more embarrassing situation. I cannot see any other way forward myself. It's already a fall from grace for everyone! Have a good day BIL!

04 Dec 2025 14:20:44
Yeah it’s tough winning 2 league titles in 6 seasons. Sheffield Wednesday supporters don’t know what suffering is.

04 Dec 2025 14:25:45
Barry, they will replace Slot as soon as all their ducks are in a row i. e get the right guy in place and ready to go. Not before.

And if it takes all the way to the end of the season for that to happen then, I propose we all get ready for that.

04 Dec 2025 14:44:14
You could very well be right Oli.

04 Dec 2025 14:56:42
Slot will get until January.

04 Dec 2025 16:00:58
If the new coach decides to throw the entire playing philosophy of the recent decade in the bin, he needs to come up with an adequate alternative.
Slot is now in his second year, and I still can’t see any signature style from the coach — not even remotely.


The midfield in particular is a dreadful sight.
What did Slot do during the preseason? What are they doing in training?

04 Dec 2025 13:04:31
I could deal with a rough patch of results and get behind the manager if the performances was there but we are so bad right now its actually depressing! Hope the suits just don't prelong the enivatable for too long ?.

04 Dec 2025 14:10:44
The performances go hand in hand with the results. Liverpool have world class players - if the performances were as they should be, we’d win 30 games a season in the league. This isn’t a team that gets unlucky despite playing well - if they played well, they’d win nearly every game.

04 Dec 2025 14:16:48
I’m sure that if we get beat at Elland Rd, then Arne will be on the next EasyJet back to the Dam.

04 Dec 2025 16:46:51
That’ll be handy shughes55 as he lives by the airport apparently.

04 Dec 2025 13:10:45


ShipleyKopite has written an article entitled, Liverpool's Passive Display Raises Concerns Under Slot

04 Dec 2025 13:31:31
Up until 2 weeks ago I was all for giving Slot more time but it is quite clear he will not change tactics.
It is time for him to go.
The Premier League has changed dramatically over the last 18 months.
Teams are far more physical and direct, we have gone the exact opposite.
He has bought players to try and pick the lock of the low block while other teams are just smashing it off with a sledgehammer.


It is OK having Wirtz and Isak but the rest of the team needs to be made up of energy and physicality.
As Shanks said " You only need one person to play the piano but you need 10 to carry it".

04 Dec 2025 15:03:33
Isak is woeful. I wasn’t quite as harsh before we signed him but I didn’t want him either.

Woeful is being kind.

04 Dec 2025 16:17:45
He is getting absolutely no service. We need our wingers to be getting to the byline and cutting the ball back between the six yard box and penalty spot.
Ours cannot beat a man and are always looking to cut inside.
Again tactics are all wrong!

04 Dec 2025 16:27:33
His work rate is poor, that needs improving. He isn’t a woeful player, but looks like a loose part in our set up.

04 Dec 2025 16:47:53
The fact Isak destroyed Liverpool every time he played for Newcastle shows he’s not woeful. But it is clear Slot has zero clues how to get the most from him.

04 Dec 2025 17:15:37
It wasn't that long ago that we were mocking Arsenal and comparing them to Stoke ?.

04 Dec 2025 12:26:39
The run of defeats are horrible and so different to what we’ve become used to over the past few years but it’s the lack of effort, desire or even ambition that has me feeling most sick. I’ve never wanted a manager to go (except hodgson) but I’m really fed up of slot. I’m sick and tired of his interviews after games. Every opposition goal is down to their good luck and every chance we miss is down to our bad luck. I can’t get my head around paying £150m for a striker and then not playing to his strengths or at least involving him. Btw the way I’m not saying none of it’s down to him, he’s been terrible but tell the wingers to provide for him or they’re coming off and stick to the threat. Gakpo has scored quite a few goals I accept but surely a pro footballer has to have more to his game than everytime cutting inside and shooting (sometimes scoring) but rarely passing.

Kerkez doesn’t even bother to over lap him anymore as he’s NEVER getting the ball and he’s just going to leave himself out of position again. He’s been terrible but why buy a fb that was brilliant last season and then make him play a totally different role. McAllister definitely has to have inappropriate pictures of slot with an animal. He was just unreal last season but he’s just been (no other way to describe it) so so so bad so far this season. No point in even talking about van dijk or konate. We are wasting Ali’s final years and I’m not convinced mamardashvilli is good enough. I don’t blame anyone for not reading this far (I probably wouldn’t) and sorry for the essay but I needed to vent.

{Ed025's Note - im a massive fan of Ali DH but i dont think he was great yesterday either mate, the infection seems to be spreading..

04 Dec 2025 13:39:21
Thought ali poor last nite as well, his worst game in a long time. He got lucky with 1 that hit crossbar as well.
Probably rustiness after injury, no doubt he be back to normal shortly.

{Ed025's Note - hopefully Digger, his kicking was poor as well for him mate..

04 Dec 2025 13:54:14
The only way I can describe it is the slow play is like a poison. Doing things slow doesn't sharpen the mind, and it then breeds complacency throughout the team.

I am all for drawing out the opposition but it feels like we never do anything quick. I remember one scenario with Wirtz where we did to get in the box and then he pulled it into the danger area. I feel very Clarkson in saying this, but speed is the answer. Doing things quick means the opposition has less time to react. Right now we are just playing in front of opponents, make a mistake, get broken through and it leads to a good chance for the opposition.

Then add to that the 4-3-3 doesn't suit the players we bought and it leaves us vulnerable constantly with very little threat.

I thought he stumbled on the way forward against West Ham, but after that woeful 45mins yesterday he reverted back to the system that hasn't been working for the season. Which leaves me drawing the only conclusion that he is stuck in his ways and something needs to give.

I grew up in Leeds, so not particularly looking forward to Saturday as I have an awful feeling we are going to lose and I will not hear the end of it!

04 Dec 2025 12:56:23
100% agree. I’m just saying he’s proven himself to be absolutely brilliant but even he’s looking bad/ less good. The whole buzz/ confidence is gone from the team and the fans. Last year I honestly thought it was wrong at the time. As soon as we had won the league he stopped demanding standards. He let the players fly here, there and everywhere, as did he. That would never have been allowed under klopp, Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep or possibly even Arteta.

They would’ve all gone for the jugular and won the league by as many points as possible. I know a 1 point win is enough but winning is a habit as is playing well. Out from the very odd occasion I’d argue that we haven’t played at all well since we clinched the league last season.

04 Dec 2025 12:57:43
It’s not like we have a whole lot of quality in depth in midfield though, particularly midfielders who can actually defend, and even then, Slot clearly has a pathological dislike of defensive midfielders. Was hoping West Ham was a corner, but it feels like a fluke result and an outlier.

04 Dec 2025 11:58:37
I agree with that 25. Spreading. Szobo been decent all season and he was also Miles off it last night.

04 Dec 2025 17:41:14
How is McConnell doing at Ajax? I was disappointed to see him go out on loan, as he’s always looked class - and we look a little light in midfield options.

04 Dec 2025 11:56:59
ED001, surely its time for Slot to be gone, heard a few people on here saying the fans are behind him . i know a few sang his name when we beat West ham but majority can see its more than not working this season .

so why do you think the reason he is still here . is it that there isn't any credible alternatives at this moment, if not a interim has got to come in, it can't be any worse than what's on offer.

{Ed001's Note - Edwards and Hughes personally chose him, he is their man, they believe in him and so are giving him as much time as possible to turn things round.}

04 Dec 2025 12:07:17
This is why I said Hughes should be held to account yesterday. Not saying we shouldn’t sack slot definitely should, but saying his position should be looked at as well.

04 Dec 2025 12:27:30
To me it looks obvious that Slot's vision for how the team should play is completely inappropriate for the premier league, almost like a fantasy that he concocted.
Thinking he could solve two of the issues under Klopp (end of season fatigue and injuries) by changing training to rondo's and banishing the lactate test without considering the consequences is amateur and egotistical.

I appreciate that Diogo's passing may be hanging heavy around the place, and we can't really quantify the effect this has had, but it seems obvious to me that Slot lacks certain leadership qualities and is a bit of a legend in his own mind.

We have gone from heavy metal football to supermarket music in the space of 18 months. The Athletic called this last summer - Slot's tactical set up provides diminishing returns after season 1.

I get that Eddie and Rich have to stick their choice, but how far can this go? We play awful football and are easy to play against.

Slot's vision is not working and he has no solutions. He didn't even sound sincere when he finally accepted the blame.

Eds, what can be done? Iraola would have L4 bouncing in no time, in my opinion. The crowd loves to see fight in the players. Under Slot its like everyone had a fat joint before the game.

04 Dec 2025 12:42:35
You would honestly think a loss at Leeds and it's curtains. Get Stevie G and Gary Mcallister in for a bit of a bounce over Xmas and work on a permanent replacement.

04 Dec 2025 12:49:06
It's only a matter of time now.

The players are defeated. The fans are flat. He looks dejected.

I assume the suits are actively lining up the next man as there's been nothing to suggest it can turned around. We started last night's game like we didn't want to be there.

It's just sad isn't it?

04 Dec 2025 13:41:59
Heavy metal football left in 2020 after our league title under Klopp. So I don't get why people keep saying that we should return to it. We've not played it for at least 5 years now. What we do need is intensity and purpose to our play.

It's so slow and disorganised. Even last seasons football, even though it wasn't high octane was better as we could see what the plan was. There isn't one this season.

04 Dec 2025 13:52:21
The only thing I will say in Slots defence is that the transition away from the aggressive Klopp style wasn't just him. We were heading that way under Pep Ljinders for two seasons before Slot came in anyway. Difference being then we had peak Ali, VVD, a hard working defensively focused midfield and Salah on fire to cover the deficits to the style of play. For me this coalesced into the best version of what this could be last season with the PL win, and whilst it was great, I put this down more to other top teams being off the pace rather than us being brilliant. Fast forward to now and Slots refusal to play a DM, lack of a physical game plan, other teams getting back to high standards and VVD and Salah falling off a cliff have all coalesced into the worst version of what this style could be.


Just my take, but for my part I have been saying the standard of footy has been poor for at least 3 years, relying more on individual moments of pure class rather than being a good 'team'. Weird as it sounds, the current situation doesn't really suprise me that much.
We need to transition to something that makes the most of the future of this team, without Salah, without VVD, and based on his inability to make it happen, without Slot either.

04 Dec 2025 12:59:57
With respect to Gerrard and McAllister, given their managerial CV’s, neither of them should be even thought about for this as they’re proven failures.

04 Dec 2025 14:04:10
If hughes and edwards are backing him, which is fine, but slot is taking the p. by not even improving 1 aspect of the game.

04 Dec 2025 14:44:24
I get that VV but surely just to fire these players up for a few weeks whilst someone suitable is found couldn't be any worse than what were seeing?

04 Dec 2025 15:54:00
Thing is Ernest, being diplomatic about this, Gerrard is a complete and utter personality vacuum and I can’t see him remotely being able to motivate anyone let alone a bunch of underperforming millionaires, he certainly couldn’t do it at Villa or out in Saudi. To call him a dullard is an understatement. He really should not be in contention or the discussion.

Let’s just remember what happened at United with Solskaer and Chelsea with Lampard as that’s the most likely outcome with Gerrard. Great players, but all the personality of a weekend in Slough.

04 Dec 2025 18:42:45
100% with you Viktor. Regards to Macallister, the players wouldn't even know who he was.

04 Dec 2025 21:29:25
Cheers for the reply ED001.hopefully something will be sorted sooner rather than later.

04 Dec 2025 11:10:44
We have now become doubters from believers!

04 Dec 2025 11:53:57
That’s what a run of awful defeats and even worse performances does to you.

04 Dec 2025 13:31:17
This is what happens when a manager does not have the psychological make up required to lead elite sports players.
There is a reason that Jurgen was 'rented out' by FSG to leadership conferences.
Slot is a decent coach for a tier 2 league side. Admitting that teams come to L4 expecting to get something is the final curtain.

Beef Curtains to Slot!

04 Dec 2025 13:49:17
Totally agree Rover.

04 Dec 2025 14:26:58
Ya think, Clarkkent?

04 Dec 2025 16:31:54
Slot has just ruined all the hard work built up from the Klopp reign in a matter of months!

04 Dec 2025 10:17:24
Hi Eds + ITK’s,

Question about Semenyo. Confirming that he would count as a HG player if he were to sign for us?

Cheers lads.

04 Dec 2025 11:01:27
Not an Ed, not ITK, but he would count as homegrown. National team allegiance plays no part, Semenyo was born in London and (I believe) and was "trained" by Bristol City.

04 Dec 2025 11:43:41
You think he’ll still want to sign?! ?.

04 Dec 2025 11:51:17
Of course. Any players with half a brain can see we are a few tweaks and maybe a managerial change away from being elite again. Plus the prestige and lure of Liverpool/ Anfield.

04 Dec 2025 13:33:51
FORNAX Can we have some more of your cryptic posts please - you seemed most intent on supporting Slot, which is admirable. Where do you stand now having witnessed the tepid gruel he's been serving up lately?

Rondos, sideways passing, plodding about waiting for Godot.

{Ed025's Note - he would want the manager of IKEA in Warrington MrB.. :)

04 Dec 2025 13:53:55
Lol not sure why any player would want to join us over City or Arsenal right now! Managerial change is coming a mile off and everyone can see it plus there is no guarantee we will get CL footy if we carry on as we have been.

04 Dec 2025 10:02:30
So the league is finished

Damn … it’s just sad to not be amongst it

Kinda defeats the purpose of being at a top club I would say.

04 Dec 2025 11:02:02
You aren't at a top club though, I guess.

04 Dec 2025 09:39:49
There's desperation in the air. Everyone can witness it but feel it now. For this to be allowed to prolong is going to damage us long term. We're not getting champions league under this regime.
Why have we been allowed to throw away a season because there's "belief" in a head coach. Half a season is near and the performances and results would have got him sacked at any other massive club which are few BTW.

Hughes came from Bournemouth and Edwards is content now with no challenging from klopp. If this does continue, we've had 3 journey men lead us into the oblivion this season with ramifications down the line.

04 Dec 2025 09:37:57
For the talent they’ve got, Liverpool might be the worst-coached team in Europe right now. Terrible both on and off the ball, can’t press, can’t keep any momentum going. It’s a tactical disaster, and it’s not like all these players suddenly forgot how to play over the summer.

There was this moment yesterday in the second half where we won the ball back, Wirtz had loads of space, and I thought we were about to launch a counter. But then I saw it, only Salah ahead of him, surrounded by three defenders, and everyone else just stood still. Wirtz had to slow it down and start another boring attack.

What’s happened to this team? No aggressive pressing, no fast transitions, just players standing around waiting for a miracle. It’s honestly infuriating to watch.

What really pisses me off is that Slot has completely killed Klopp’s “doubters to believers” philosophy. He’s turned it on its head.

04 Dec 2025 12:44:59
Agree with that, there were many similar situations yesterday, you work all day looking forward to these games and just see no fire or energy.

04 Dec 2025 14:27:37
"For the talent they’ve got, Liverpool might be the worst-coached team in Europe right now. "


Mate, you ain't never lied.