Liverpool banter 3

06 Dec 2025 22:41:01
Long time reader but never felt so confused. I am pretty calm normally but what is going on with our club? 40+ years and can't remember it being like this - we have (somee) great players but the chemistry is completely wrong.

Please for the love of God drop Konate!
I reckon both Slot and Salah will be gone by end of Jan.
Even an interim manager could do better with this sh**show. Then sort in the summer with the right candidate.
Ridiculous thing is we are not that far off top 5 which is realistically the best we can hope for.

I am just waiting for Carra to post for some sense.

06 Dec 2025 23:04:56
Great player, but a twit: always puts himself ahead of the team. All of those interviews over last two years: initially anti Klopp, then begging for a new contract.
He poisoned Klopp’s final season, and is doing the same now. I know Mane was complicated, but maybe he was right about Mo? Without doubt, the hardest of our legends to like.

06 Dec 2025 22:37:29
After mo's comments somethings got to give, the silence from the club can't remain. As fans we are at our wits end with the results. My take on mo's comments is his as confused with this seasons tactics as the fans. And i wouldn't think his the only player at the club with this issue. My take is slots gone.

06 Dec 2025 23:54:35
Ngumoha's goal, Dom's goal today, two beautiful pieces of play that have been all too rare this season. We can bang on about tactics allday and im not saying their perfect but the major fact this season is that the players just havnt been good enough during this horrible spell.

Leeds's 3 goals today could all have been avoided if certain players did the basics better. And that's been the story of our season, not tactics.

07 Dec 2025 00:53:17
Finglas, He's lost more than Salah in that dressing room. This only ends one way.

06 Dec 2025 22:31:43
Salah is right to speak, something he’s said maybe should have been reworded but I have no issue with a player speaking up.

06 Dec 2025 22:59:08
He’s right to voice concerns about the direction the club is going but he didn’t do that did he?

He spoke to preserve his own reputation whilst knowing it would cause a media storm around himself which would make our current predicament worse.

He’s a legend for this club but that was completely out of order.

06 Dec 2025 23:40:15
Speaking out does not help.

Salah spoke out about Klopp
Salah spoke out about his contract.

He needs to stop.

07 Dec 2025 07:56:43
Get the tape boys and tape his mouth shut then. Bunch of pre Madonna’s.

06 Dec 2025 22:31:38
Here’s my take on the whole salah situation. Personally, I don’t think he should be doing this so publicly, however, I can see why he isn’t happy. He definitely isn’t the only one under-performing but he’s the only one taken out of the team.
Konate has been by far the worst player this season and yet he’s played every minute. Gakpo starts without fail despite the fact he’s one of the most one dimensional players I’ve ever seen, just constantly cuts in on his right foot.
Macallister has been so sluggish and off the mark all season, yet he starts most games.
I think tonight is a clear indication that slot has lost the dressing room and I don’t see any way back now.

Ed001, what do you think is more likely? That salah has played his last game for the club? That slot will be gone before he returns from AFCON? Or both?

{Ed001's Note - I think both is looking likely right now. Slot is unlikely to survive while serving up this crap and Hughes would like to move Salah on.}

06 Dec 2025 21:41:22
Klopp was brilliant at man management and keeping players happy. Slot is nothing like that. The best thing to do is sack Slot and sell Salah to Saudi for good money and get a capable winger to replace him.

06 Dec 2025 22:47:49
Salah has just made Slot’s position safer. All the heat will now be on Salah and if he’ll be sold in January. Hughes will know this year is a transition year with Salah going and new players brought in needing time to gel and with more changes to come.

The dressing room will be completely different next pre season with Klopps players mostly gone and Slot’s players in. Slot pretty much has a free ride now this season.

06 Dec 2025 22:58:57
Konate hasn't been dropped because (A) we've had no other fit CB's half the time and because (b) Gomez is even worse. In Salah's position we at least had other things we could try.

06 Dec 2025 23:13:01
You might think Konate is a better player that Gomez and that is fine. But you seriously cannot say Gomez could play any worse than Konate is currently playing. His form is absolutely diabolical.

06 Dec 2025 23:56:49
Oh he could JK, i've seen Gomez have mares. And now he seems to have lost his pace which was his get out of jail card.

06 Dec 2025 22:00:17
I’m a grassroots coach who’s coached the teams of my 3 sons for the last 15 years.

I’m not saying I’m an expert but this is kind of my point.

Two issues with Slot’s tactics stand out for me. We’re so slow in the build up that by the time we get bodies forward if we lose it if the oppo counters quickly and bravely we can face overload situations. By simply moving the ball forward quicker we may not be so susceptible to these counters.

When facing low blocks surely it’s better to play with a left footer on the left and right footer on the right to get in behind and cut the ball back. Inverted wingers just run into traffic when faced with the low block.

06 Dec 2025 22:44:55
Wingers like Salah and Gakpo like to cut inside onto their stronger foot. Full backs are typically left footed on the left and right footed on the right are they not? Exceptions of course like John Barnes to name one.

Luis Enrique last season I believe said we were the best team in Europe on the transition. Slot has coached that out of us this season which doesn't play to the strengths of Salah, Wirtz and our two strikers.

06 Dec 2025 22:11:01
I remember coming on after the West Ham game saying myself and am sure others wasn’t convinced, as we got the 3 Pts but it was West Ham and we still looked average.

I can't believe we still somehow tossed away a 2-0 lead to Leeds? Albeit it wasn’t going to be plain sailing and i get Konate is an absolute dope, but i just can't understand it.

As i said a couple of weeks back, we are really in a position where a couple of more bad results and top 4 becomes a big uphill battle. At the minute we are somehow in touching distance, but they need to act now with Slot, that is that for me.

5 pts out of them 9 is horrible.

On top of that, I criticised Mo being abit off it at the start of the season and he has had bad performances at times. However, the manager’s decision not picking him has been bizzare. Even today why did we set up to hold out the lead at 2-0 and completely neutralise our attack? It would have been perfect to change the midfield very slightly and rotate the forwards.


A lot of people are blaming Konate and so they should for that first goal but the managers decision did not help at all. So deflating even watching us at the moment, you would some extent rather them not play, as you have that glimmer of slight hope and it’s all knocked away quickly.


Ed01 penny for your thoughts mate on everything really the Salah interview? Slot? And where do we even go from here in your opinion, if you can of course.

{Ed001's Note - I think the club is falling apart under Slot right now and it is time to change while top 4 is still a realistic prospect.}

06 Dec 2025 22:31:29
Totally agree with you ed. Spot on.

06 Dec 2025 22:33:52
I would love to see us play w Ekitike and Isak up top. Don't care as a 2 or a 3 but seems madness that we spent 200m on two players and only 1 plays at a time.

I think if we had 10 subs Gakpo would come off 9th or 10th w maybe only Virgil keeping his spot. If Salah is a problem with his form, I raise u Gakpo Macca KONATE. If Slot wants to play only in form players we'd have only Dom and Ali on the pitch.

06 Dec 2025 22:39:02
Can't believe how farcical we've become this year. Surely the people in charge can't allow this to go on any longer.

06 Dec 2025 23:00:00
Sombre abd sobering comment Ed01 think we all agree.

06 Dec 2025 23:01:04
Ed001 genuine question, did you think Slot was a good coach when he came in last year?

{Ed001's Note - I had no idea, and I was very clear that I didn't know enough about him.}

06 Dec 2025 23:03:01
Why is it madness? we needed two and went for the two that in the clubs opinion were the best two we could get. What happened to"its not our money"?

07 Dec 2025 00:02:56
Ok ed, was genuinely curious. My stance is i knew zero of him. Bloke came in was a breath of fresh air and delivered No.20.Stance this year is a sense of shock, like most fans. But i do think peoples hatred of Slot is pointing them towards slating tactics (which im not saying are perfect) and man management while i just think the players have not been good enough.

You can't put the amount of basic, huge errors and poor execution of basic skills all down to tactics in my opinion.

{Ed001's Note - yes you can, they put pressure on the players in dangerous areas. This is all on Slot.}

06 Dec 2025 22:10:28
We stumbled our way into a 2-0 lead. I had zero confidence in us seeing that out. Can’t believe what is being served up. Zero movement, awful press, no idea how to break on the odd occasion we win it high up. It’s just baffling.

06 Dec 2025 23:04:47
I thought it was a classic away performance with two well taken clinical strikes. were in total control until Konate.

06 Dec 2025 22:09:16
Ed 001 may I ask please. It has been said the board want to give Slot as much time as possible, as he was a Hughes pick he wants to see him succeed. But where would you say the end of that thought process happens.

Surely it is seen by Hughes and the other decision makers that things are in a dreadful state as regards to performance on the pitch. They must see the players are starting to get really unhappy. But this doesn't seem to make them act .

Will a new way of thinking begin once there is a real possiblity that the team won't make top 4 and are eliminated from the CL this season? So basically a financial catastrophe as regards to no CL next season. And if so would continued participation in the CL this season be enough to keep Slot safe? Surely if that's the case there is a real chance we could get knocked out in the latter stages of the CL and by that time be to far off top 4 to challenge for those spots. Surely that's not a risk the board are willing to take?

{Ed001's Note - it is impossible to say, because performances are just as important as the actual results. The fact that there has been some signs of improvement could well keep him safe for now. There have been problems with the players for a while, so they have backed him over the players initially - though it can't continue for too long. I would expect that Hughes will get him out if the fans turn on him in his role as sporting director. That is usually what sees a manager go - directors do not like to feel the heat.}

06 Dec 2025 23:01:12
Problem with the players before? I assume you're talking about this season ed001? What with Virgil calling an emergency meeting and if I had to gather problems before it would be him banishing Quansah to the shadow realm along with Harvey and Chiesa.

I felt last season the reason why we struggled towards the end was his lack of use of squad players so when they came in they look out of sorts as they spent months twiddling their thumbs watching on the sidelines.

06 Dec 2025 23:08:53
Thats the shame about earlier,7 points from 3 games in a week for a team that had been struggling so badly would have been a real turnaround. Up until konates idiocy it looked like only 1 goal conceded in 3 games too. We even would have been in the champs Lge positions. that's the real shame of today not Mo's tantrum.

06 Dec 2025 22:07:02
People having a go at Mo Salah saying he's been awful n his recent interview n I agree he hasn't been playing well. but why is that. why has our top goalscorer for the last 7/ 8 all of a sudden can't score or assist, its got to be the way the team plays n that's down to the manager n coaching staff .

even when he's played bad in the past, he always scores or assists, now he might leave on a sour note n that's just not right.

06 Dec 2025 22:15:23
Exactly this.

06 Dec 2025 22:18:23
Or it could be he’s not quite as good as he used to be, or has lost a bit of focus. It’s on him.

When you’re one of the best footballers in the world playing in the same position and formation you’ve always played in, the excuse of “the tactics don’t suit him” is nonsense. Tactics don’t have any impact on ability to control the ball, hold off a defender, go past your man, execute a pass or beat the first man with a cross. Salah’s fundamentals have evaporated this season; that’s not tactical. Not saying I would want him to leave or that I don’t think he can rediscover it, but he needs to look much more closely at himself rather than ranting about being thrown under the bus.

For the same reason, I’m not willing to accept “it’s a different system to Bournemouth” as an explanation for Kerkez being so abysmal.

06 Dec 2025 22:21:22
Mo has to be the only world class superstar who needs the team to play at a world class level for him to perform.

06 Dec 2025 22:41:32
We sold 2 fast horses and left with the cart and expect to win
Diaz and Nunez speed did help.
Now no one afraid of our counter attack.
What a vision
What an appointment
What a director without any direction
May God help.

06 Dec 2025 22:53:31
Kit we have a lot of speed for transition. Dom was the 5th fastest in the Bundesliga before coming to us. Hugo Isak and Wirtz have pace to burn. Diaz wasn't the fastest following his injury. Nunez had pace but couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel.

06 Dec 2025 21:53:40
ED001 what do you make of salahs comments? I am hurting enough, I want this to stop.

{Ed001's Note - he is pointing out that the problem is not just him.}

06 Dec 2025 22:04:16
He's bang out of order, Ed.

{Ed001's Note - is he?}

06 Dec 2025 22:06:49
It’s going to be a busy few days, Ed. Hope you’re ready!

{Ed001's Note - yeah I think sleep might have to take a nap.}

06 Dec 2025 21:08:30
Ultimately he is 33 and been rubbish for many many games for this and last season.

His legs are gone and it's time to move on.

06 Dec 2025 22:10:36
How is he out of order? I think he's right. Good on him for speaking out.

06 Dec 2025 22:11:04
He is spot on, salah is worth 100 Slots.

He needs to go now before we lose one of our best ever players.

Salah is the least of our problems and being used as a scapegoat.


Have we been any better without him? .

06 Dec 2025 22:13:15
Good luck Ed's. You're going to need it.

06 Dec 2025 22:20:19
Yes, mate. I've no idea what goes on behind the scenes, I'm just a paying supporter. What I do know is no player is bigger than our illustrious club and never has been. We are in a big mess at the moment and we didn't need the Egyptian Sulk to come out and make matters worse.

He's one of our all time greats, but it doesn't excuse him for this. People will no doubt disagree, but, as always I don't give a flying fish. I'll be there again next Saturday singing myself hoarse because, no matter what, the club comes first before any individual.

06 Dec 2025 22:22:35
And right one cue, Mo comes out randomly at the mixed zone and makes it all about him.

06 Dec 2025 22:32:19
I don't agree that Salah's out of order at all. He's been our best player since he arrived, broke all sorts of records whilst playing for our club and deserves to leave the club on the very best of terms. He is up there with the best to ever put on a Liverpool shirt and without doubt the best in my lifetime.

For a long time players left us as they were hitting their peak. Salah hit his peak when he joined us and gave us his best years, peaking again last season.

06 Dec 2025 22:41:35
Theres no point backing a 33 yr old who is clearly on the way down and has shown he cares more about himself than the team. Both him and Slot need to go.

06 Dec 2025 22:54:55
If Salah cared about the club he wouldn’t be whinging about being thrown under the bus he be saying he’s disappointed with being left out and that he will work hard to get back in the team.

Like most reds I love Salah but he’s out of order. We are in a slump and he knows full well that this will make it worse. He’s massively gone down in my estimation tonight, I couldn’t care less how he feels he should keep that in house. Creating a media storm around himself is selfishness at its best. He’s shown himself to be what he is, interested only in himself and not the club or his fellow players or the fans.

Disgraceful behaviour from such an experienced professional.

06 Dec 2025 23:10:59
Top post, Dundee.

06 Dec 2025 21:52:41
Slot and gvb have single handed ruined this club and dragged it into the gutters. Their lack of tactical knowledge, poor training intensity, game management and player relations is truly abysmal. We are a laughable joke of a club. From club World champions and champions league league winners and Premier league winners to mid table obscurity after spending half a billion pounds is truly the definition of incompetence and out of your depth small club ability.


Go now and never return. Salah is right .

06 Dec 2025 21:55:06
Salahs own performances and efforts haven't been good enough.

06 Dec 2025 22:02:08
I'm with you King.

Slot said "at 3-2, we didn't need a goal, just controlling the game". That tells a lot about him and his thinking.

06 Dec 2025 22:06:07
Batman nobody bar Dom has been good enough this season. One or two like Grav are close but so many are so far off. It can't be a bad coincidence. There is no belief in what they are doing.

06 Dec 2025 22:27:06
Well we didn't in fairness Haizan.

06 Dec 2025 22:33:37
Eds. do you think there are more players as unhappy with Slot as Mo. Only its just Mo finally had enough and been the one to speak out.

{Ed001's Note - yes, defo. There have been for a while - Ekitike's over the top celebration which got him booked was about his unhappiness with Slot. He does not have Klopp's man management skills and is gradually losing the whole squad.}

06 Dec 2025 22:54:10
Then Ed it's just a matter of time.

06 Dec 2025 23:13:14
Nobody has klopps man management skills, that can't be a reason to criticise Slot or any other future lfc managers. Klopp was unique. I will point out out it still didn make him above criticism on these pages though, suppose no one is perfect.

06 Dec 2025 23:14:00
Kingkev10 - I'm not saying you're wrong, but how do you know that the training intensity is poor. I could imagine training isn't as intense as in pre-season, but when we're playing 3 games a week, how tough should it be.

06 Dec 2025 21:52:00
Salah seems more than happy to do interviews when it comes to wanting a bumper contract, etc. But, when it comes to poor performances, and senior players having to take interviews, he is nowhere to be found.

Van Dijk, as awful as he has been, at least had the balls to stand up and take interviews, shielding the other players, but when has Salah ever done that. Never, only when it is convenient for him.

06 Dec 2025 21:56:28
With you, Mango.