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15 Nov 2024 07:37:40
Chiesa will be leaving in January. As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy.
Don't know if it will be a permanent move or loan move (I suspect loan with option) but he won't be a Liverpool player after January.
1.) 15 Nov 2024 08:49:52
Once fit, his value in italy would likely be at least double what we paid. let's give him a chance to get fit and see what he brings.
2.) 15 Nov 2024 09:09:57
I don't know what his problem is, the Mersey is the Lake Garda of the North of England!
3.) 15 Nov 2024 09:25:43
Not buying it, looks happy in recent footage I’ve seen and if he didn’t want to sign for Liverpool he would have stayed in Italy. Not been long enough to be homesick.
4.) 15 Nov 2024 09:33:04
@Stuie, don’t forget Ainsdale Beach, rivals anything the Italians have to offer ?.
5.) 15 Nov 2024 09:37:24
I'd be very surprised if he moved on in January.
6.) 15 Nov 2024 10:36:42
WDW, give me a Scouse bird, rollers in hair, fake tan and dressing gown on whilst in the local bargain booze over some sultry, well dressed Italian woman any day of the week!
7.) 15 Nov 2024 10:47:22
From James Pearce:
"Liverpool are basically giving him a mini pre-season in the hope that he can build up his fitness levels. It’s about handling the intensity of the training.
It’s too soon to write off Chiesa and there’s no truth in the rumours that Liverpool are already thinking about offloading him.
He played 37 times for Juventus last season, so it’s not like he arrived at Anfield after an injury-plagued campaign. He was cheap at £10million because he was down to the final year of his contract and they wanted him off the wage bill. "
8.) 15 Nov 2024 11:52:33
"As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy. "
He was homesick and didn't like living in the UK before he moved to the UK? That is some foresight mate.
9.) 15 Nov 2024 12:06:19
OP you’ve already asked one of the Ed’s this question if Chiesa is leaving Liverpool and you’re basically repeating what he posted, oh and didn't you say we’ve also signed Zubimendi, so I’ll take this post with a pinch of salt.
10.) 15 Nov 2024 15:13:21
I keep seeing these rumblings but I can't see that happening. Who knows though, seems like LFC were a bit ambitious adding him. They have an abundance of attackers.
11.) 15 Nov 2024 17:09:38
How can he be homesick before he signed?
12.) 15 Nov 2024 19:36:03
Id like to give Chiesa a few kicks of a ball at least before judging him. Hopefully he can get up to speed fitness wise.
13.) 16 Nov 2024 10:01:01
I seem to remember Robbo and Fabinho hardly kicked a ball in their first six months . and Tsimikas struggled in his first season.
He will be just what we need when the silverware is up grabs.
14.) 16 Nov 2024 11:57:57
To clarify I said previously that he is a player who gets homesick easily.
Now I'm saying that what some people thought would happen, is happening.
And yes I was wrong about zubimendi, things can change quickly in football. I was also the only person saying we would sign coutinho (even eds didn't think it would happen) and I also said that higuain wouldn't move to Chelsea either at a time when everyone thought he'd come to the uk.
I've got a few wrong before, I just pass on what I get told which is usually just restricted to Italian football but sometimes Madrid as well.
Id be happy to be wrong.
15.) 16 Nov 2024 13:03:54
Just ribbing you Nevada mate. I hope you are wrong on this one and Chiesa can come through for us. At least we have 5 other good options in attack either way.
16.) 16 Nov 2024 13:15:02
If he’s not happy there’s no point in keeping him, I expect he’ll go on loan or on a free.
An unhappy player is not worth what you paid for them.
£10m loss, poor scouting.
Someone took a punt on him and failed.
I’d rather we give our kids more game time. We’ve some good ones who need to play.
17.) 16 Nov 2024 20:55:21
Nevada, where are you getting this info about Chiesa leaving in Jan cos he is homesick?
18.) 17 Nov 2024 08:14:47
I am still not buying the revision to “I have said previously he is a player who gets homesick easily”.
I am no expert on homesickness but I do know Italy really well. Chiesa was born in Genoa, which is bang in the middle of Florence and Turin, which are 273 miles apart. He has only played for Fiorentina and Juventus, so “as a player” I struggle with this comment.
19.) 17 Nov 2024 10:43:51
He's going nowhere.
20.) 17 Nov 2024 20:59:21
@Olired
Any info I get comes from players agents, club staff and with certain clubs executives near the top but not at the top.
All within italian clubs and Madrid. Sometimes I hear info about other teams outside those clubs but I don't usually post that as it is usually less reliable.
I was once told that Sandro tonali was taking English lessons about 14 months before he came to prem league, though I didn't know or post where he would go. He ended up at Newcastle and that came from an extremely famous ex Brescia player. that was a one off though.
21.) 18 Nov 2024 00:06:21
Waste of time taking English lessons if you’re going to Geordieland.
22.) 18 Nov 2024 08:02:00
@Ron Keague I'm not sure anybody knew where he was going at the time. Sounds like a wild thing to say but the person who gave me the info knows sandro personally and the fact he didn't know what club Sandro was going to tells me that perhaps Sandro himself didn't until very late in the process.
This is just speculation on my part now but I think perhaps the reason he came to uk was for the money given his gambling issues.
23.) 18 Nov 2024 09:48:58
Wasn’t tonali sold against his will? I remember he was quite unwilling to go to Newcastle but Milan needed to raise some money, didn’t seem like he was eagerly plotting to come to the prem a year in advance.
24.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:10
I trust Nev (ada) ’s posts on this. ?.
25.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:23
Chiesa will not be leaving in January.
26.) 18 Nov 2024 21:17:05
I miss ed2….
25 Oct 2024 08:59:22
Hi eds,
Are the club looking to loan chiesa back to Italy? Not sure how that's going to help him at all and if true seems like chiesa was a buy similar to minamino, one done just because the player was very cheap and could be flipped for profit.
{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (LW/F) Apparently not entirely happy and with injury problems the player could easily be deemed surplus to needs regardless of only joining in the summer. A Richard Hughes mistake, I assume made when Diaz was restless. A loan may make sense.}
1.) 25 Oct 2024 09:44:09
God, what a mess.
What happened Ed? He seems so happy when he joined.
What has made him unhappy?
{Ed002's Note - He has been injured and there is no real place in the side for him.}
2.) 25 Oct 2024 10:34:27
It really is going well with Hughes isn’t it. A worrying January transfer market round the corner for him to have another balls up!
3.) 25 Oct 2024 10:56:43
I remember thinking at the time he must be coming in to replace Diaz, so was surprised when Diaz stayed.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 11:20:59
Slot saying he might resume training today. I still think he has the potential to be a good signing. If he's fit and up to speed (don't forget that he had no pre season at all so was majorly behind the other players even before picking up his injury) he will get minutes and could be a huge benefit over manic Christmas period.
On Wednesday when Mo and Nunez were taken off to prepare for Sunday we lost so much threat up top. The opportunities to impress will be there, hopefully he can take them.
5.) 25 Oct 2024 11:24:26
Not that I doubt Ed’s saying Chiesa is unhappy but the player has to realise
a) he’s had no real pre season,
b) he’s trying to rebuild his footballing career and he’s lucky to be able to do it at a club like Liverpool and
c) he’s injured.
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He has limited his own ability to play more mins by not being match fit and when he could have got games/ mins in recent weeks he’s been injured.
He’s been at the club for a minute and needs to cop himself on.
If he stays match fit there will be ample mins for him this season.
6.) 25 Oct 2024 11:58:20
He's not happy about being injured? That's not really anyone's fault though is it. Surely he needs to give it a chance. All seems a bit premature.
7.) 25 Oct 2024 13:11:23
Crazy when pegged as signing of the summer. Plenty of opportunities to play over the season if he gets himself fit. Hopefully will get some minutes in carabao cup next week.
8.) 25 Oct 2024 17:19:22
It always seemed very clear that 6 established attackers is too many. I never understood this move even though I like the player.
9.) 25 Oct 2024 18:02:48
I don't know how so many people believe the crap that journos say. Its like some don't understand that journos have to keep themselves in a job by making up stuff that will get clicks or sell papers. Some just seem to want an excuse to slate hughes and/ or the club. I very much doubt chiesa will go out on loan in jan, when have we ever bought a senior player and loaned them out 6 months later? Utter tripe.
10.) 25 Oct 2024 18:14:31
Ben Davies 2021.
11.) 25 Oct 2024 18:15:54
Christ almighty he's been here 2 minutes after missing pre season. He'll be fine especially with the little sum we paid for him.
12.) 25 Oct 2024 18:16:35
A non story for me.
13.) 25 Oct 2024 19:57:07
Writing players off after 5 minutes is typical of the press/ rumour mongers.
Lets give Fede a chance .
14.) 25 Oct 2024 20:04:41
Correct endo, that transfer was for emergency cover with a transfer fee of less than a million, not a Italian Euros winner. Regardless, I stand by my opinion this story is a load of bull.
15.) 25 Oct 2024 21:01:54
It’s probably a bit more like Arthur if anything. That said it’s different circumstances and I agree it’s just the Italian press throwing excrement at a wall to see if anything sticks.
The most positive thing about the thread is an attack on Hughes - we haven’t seen one for a while, so it’s nice to see a bit of knife sharpening before the January window.
16.) 25 Oct 2024 21:48:37
Chiesa just remind me of Aquilani.
17.) 26 Oct 2024 08:10:33
@Lee, very insightful call as they are both Italian footballers.
@Longthing, what would yo say is going wrong at the club? Genuine question.
We are top of the PL, joint top of the CL qualification table and have got off to the best start to a season in at least 3 and a half decades. That’s not speculation from either over or under cooked imaginations or expert (for want of a better phrase) pundit analysis or Spanish / Italian press agendas or nutters on fans forums passing their uninformed opinions off as fact - it’s actual fact.
18.) 25 Oct 2024 18:06:51
Ed2, could Chiesa even be loaned out in Jan? I thought there were limits on the number of clubs a player could play for within a set time frame?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, he has not played for Juventus this season.}
19.) 25 Oct 2024 20:59:40
Evening ed002.
Do you mean the player isn’t happy or the club isn’t happy?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt either are happy with the situation. The player, when fit, is not getting chances at Liverpool and it is difficult to see how he fits in to the team.}
20.) 26 Oct 2024 09:56:52
It was always a dumb signing.
Don’t sign injured players.
Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
Besides that, he was never good enough in my opinion.
21.) 26 Oct 2024 09:58:47
Quite a fascinating thread. A clear difference between those who believe anything they read (especially if it paints the club in a negative light) and those who realise that a rumour is just exactly that and question it.
22.) 26 Oct 2024 10:14:01
@mftonjes, of the 6, Jota and Chiesa are out injured and Diaz seems to being managed due to fatigue. At the moment it looks like we have Gakpo, Nunez and Salah. If either Nunez / Gakpo as left and central attackers are injured or Mo on the right the 6 becomes 2 and with about another 100 matches between now and the end of the year it is unlikely to get better.
23.) 26 Oct 2024 12:37:31
I'm not entierly sure I believe any of this, apart from him and the club being unhappy with his injuries.
I may be a game out but I'm sure he has only been available for 4 or 5 games, 2 of which he came of the bench and I think it was 1 or 2 starts as well. So the game time for me is a moot point. It may be doen to poisition because he has played centrally more than on the wing.
24.) 26 Oct 2024 14:37:54
I am surprised by this rumour. He got a start vs West Ham and then got injured. I don't think he's been available for selection since then so I don't see how he can be frustrated with anything other than the injury.
If he was available, I suspect he would have been the sub for Salah on Wednesday, rather than Lucho. And if fit, he will presumably be in line to start vs Brighton in the cup. Mo's minutes have to be managed after all.
Seems like a non-story to me. Unless he thinks he is not injured. Or perhaps he doesn't like the food, weather or dying pit ponies. Ed's favourite reasons.
25.) 26 Oct 2024 22:58:02
He’s never going to be fit enough to play in the premier league. He needs to go to France or Holland or Saudi. The game is too intense over here, if you’re a sicknote then you’re wasting everyone’s time.
It was a desperation signing, total waste of money.
He reminds me more of Jean Michel Ferri.
26.) 27 Oct 2024 01:23:58
Completely agree with you Ron.
27.) 27 Oct 2024 04:58:21
For those who said its just press talk, I didn't hear it via the press. He came up in conversation with someone who is part of management structure at an Italian club. I didn't even know it was in the press when I asked the question.
28.) 27 Oct 2024 09:55:47
Thanks Nev ?.
16 Aug 2024 02:44:45
Read In the press that we will loan mamardashvili to Bournemouth for one year. Is that a misprint ed001/ 02?
Surely it is?
{Ed002's Note - The rules do not allow Liverpool to buy the player and loan him to Bournemouth. Bournemouth could take him on loan from from Valencia and then Liverpool buy him next summer. There would certainly then need to be oversight of the transaction.}
1.) 16 Aug 2024 08:49:01
Interesting, I have never heard of that rule. Would you have any more info about why wouldn’t be able to buy a player and then loan him out?
{Ed002's Note - I can help what you don't know. The rule is simple, a club cannot buy a player then loan him out to another PL side in the same window.}
2.) 16 Aug 2024 09:06:23
It’s all messy. So unprofessional.
3.) 16 Aug 2024 09:53:13
Not that messy Mark, just made more complicated by the rules.
We want to buy him now (presumably as we can get a good deal and he is keen) but he needs first team football. Would be better for us for him to get PL experience rather than go overseas.
We could have bought him and then loaned him to Germany, Spain, Italy etc (that's allowed) but just not to a PL club.
So we do a similar deal to the Naby deal - agree to buy him for a set price in 2025 (whether Jan or summer) and in the meantime, Bournemouth loan him from Valencia.
According to reports, us and Valencia were €5m apart on the fee, Bournemouth are paying a €5m loan fee for the season which makes up the shortfall.
Not completely straightforward, but a clever deal that gives 3 clubs what they want, as well as the player.
{Ed001's Note - it is just a complete waste of time and money. We don't need a keeper but we are buying one that we don't even want yet anyway. Idiocy not good planning. Good planning would have been getting the contracts sorted and buying players we do bloody need. Instead we have this shambles of a recruitment policy that is almost as inept as Chelsea's.}
4.) 16 Aug 2024 09:51:55
That seems pretty clear cut then. It's funny how crap the press are that they all regurgitate this story without even checking if it's actually possible.
5.) 16 Aug 2024 11:29:04
ED01 - Hughes is way out of his depth.
6.) 16 Aug 2024 11:49:50
I disagree Ed1. I don't think there is a plethora of good goalkeepers available on the market these days. If the club feel he has potential to be one of the top goalkeepers in the world, I think it is good future-proofing as long as he is loaned out so he is playing regularly. Goalkeeper was a dodgy department for us for several years after Reina's decline, Mignolet and Karius. I think the club are wise to guard against this.
On a similar note, do you think the current trend of stocking up on goalkeepers so you can rotate them is bad for goalkeeping in general? I personally don't think it is good that so many of them now aren't getting enough minutes and consistency.
{Ed001's Note - nonsense. We have 3 good young keepers on the books and it is just Chelsea level stupidity to buy another.}
7.) 16 Aug 2024 12:27:30
Those 3 young goalkeepers aren't going to be good enough to replace Alisson and it would be foolish to bank on them being so. If you have genuine belief that they can get to that level, then we can always sell Mamardashvili after a couple of years, probably for a profit, no harm done. Mamardashvili is much more likely to get to that level than any goalkeeper currently on our books. Chelsea's approach is a lot more scattergun.
8.) 16 Aug 2024 12:58:57
Babbity obviously you’ve watched him play how many games? Probably seen him play at euros and that’s it…. absolutely nothing wrong with kell, he should be given the opportunity to take over the No1 spot after alli goes. Atleast give him a full season before looking for another keeper. 30m on a keeper to loan back out is a farce when we are in need of better squad players and that’s the way it should be done. Vvd and salah need replacing first and foremost.
9.) 16 Aug 2024 14:35:11
Thanks for confirming to me the games I've watched Magico. And people who know a lot better than me rate him as one of the top young goalkeepers in the world.
And there were actually a fair few things wrong with Kelleher last season. Wolves is about his level. The problem with your logic anyway is Kelleher wants to be a starter now and Alisson isn't leaving yet.
10.) 16 Aug 2024 15:32:07
I’m with Ed001. Whilst I think he looks pretty good, why is this the focus of our efforts? We’re already days into these negotiations and it appears to be that we can only operate on one deal at any given time. If this lingers into next week (which it probably will given how the window has gone) it’s just going to create more drama in the fanbase.
It’s a masterclass by Liverpool. By leaving everything until the last minute, I’d now be happy just to get confirmation TAA and VVD agree to stay. I just hope they both believe in the direction of the club as neither is going to be short of suitors.
If we sell VDB I still hold out hope we might bring in a CB before the close of the window ?.
11.) 16 Aug 2024 18:11:03
a move for the georgian GK is frustrating to hear about. sure, it's a good value buy, but at what opportunity cost when it comes to the time resources of the recruitment team? LFC also need to pay more respect to the timing/ optics of moves and how that impacts the general culture around the fanbase. they're setting up their new manager for an opening stretch to his debut season that gives him little good will to start with and also virtually zero margin for error. LFC really need to tighten things up administratively and professionally as they head into the fall of 2024.
08 Aug 2024 00:19:25
To echo what others have said I have been told zubimendi will join Liverpool.
1.) 08 Aug 2024 06:34:45
Whilst UTD look to Berge! Go UTD.
2.) 08 Aug 2024 07:28:20
Hopefully it's true, he has v good reputation. I don't know awful lot about him but thought he excellent in euro final when he came on for rodri. spain played much better in 2nd half when he on.
If lfc to progress we definitely needed to do get somebody top class in that position, it's been a problem for a while now.
3.) 08 Aug 2024 07:54:13
He’s a bit underwhelming for a first signing for me and I have concerns about his passing and physicality and those of you expecting Alonso MK 2 are going to be disappointed.
Good analysis on you tube for him
Pythagoras in boots.
4.) 08 Aug 2024 08:12:49
Victor and Walter have competition ?.
5.) 08 Aug 2024 08:32:50
Wow, underwhelming ?? if we manage to sign him I’m pretty certain you’ll be wishing you could retract that statement, the fact he’s turned down Madrid Bayern and arsenal already tells you he’s a class act, I think he looks a perfect fit but thought he was un obtainable, he will absolutely improve the starting 11, other than youth players with massive potential the only players we should be buying are the ones that improve the first team.
6.) 08 Aug 2024 08:37:50
Easy does it Casey. I’ll admit my preference is for Ederson, but can’t at all complain about Zubimendi, he’s not a 7 stone weakling by any stretch and by all accounts he has a fantastic football brain as well as a good work ethos. If we pull this off it is a great signing.
7.) 08 Aug 2024 08:48:41
Great signing for the holding negative position. Breaks down hope and aspirations admirably. Welcome Casey to the squad.
8.) 08 Aug 2024 09:03:43
Vv I agree Ederson would probably of been my preference probably more based on his performance against us last season.
9.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:09
@Casey, Pythagoras does decent analysis, however also look at the review they did of Mac Allaister when we were about to sign. Also an underwhelming review, to be fair later came and said they were wrong so don't nail your analysis of Zub on Pythagoras opinion solely.
10.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:56
Zubi can guide Baj and Neyoni to greatness aswell.
11.) 08 Aug 2024 09:07:57
Regarding zubemendis stature/ physicality I think it’s irrelevant as I think bajectic will assume that role and will no doubt have made the position his own by December if he can stay fit and off the treatment table.
12.) 08 Aug 2024 09:20:08
We are competing in 4 comps, all of which I assume we are taking dead seriously. He WILL come in handy, no doubt.
13.) 08 Aug 2024 09:22:04
I'm still not convinced this one will happen, all the noise seems to come from Journos saying words like 'exploring' or 'considering'. There doesn't seem to be any agreement with his club, although we know what is needed to be done. Full clause up front, and apparently turned down a move to the prem previously.
Hopefully I am wrong (usually am according to the missus! ) but think there is a lot of mileage left in this one.
14.) 08 Aug 2024 12:43:58
I agree wyred…. a lot of talk, but we’ve heard it all before.
15.) 08 Aug 2024 21:50:36
How tall is Bajcetic now? Isn’t he growing half and inch a month?
Must be about 6’7” by now ?.
16.) 09 Aug 2024 08:06:43
Casey he's got the best aerial duels won of any midfielder over 71% he also won possession back in midfield areas more than any midfielder in Spain 235x since the start of 2022 season! And he's dribbled past less than rodri! No idea why he's underwhelming good lord!
12 Jul 2024 10:49:11
Just reading old posts and according to ed002 konate, van dijk, Gomez, van den berg, Allison, kelleher, tsimikas, are all considering leaving with mac possibly next season.
Question for ed002 and ed001 is there an issue within the club that's making so many players want to leave? Does the club have the money to replace so many regular first reamers?
{Ed002's Note - What I have said is that there is interest in those players. Only Sepp Van Den Berg has said he wants to leave.}
1.) 12 Jul 2024 12:14:37
We'll need to keep hold of Nat Phillips for sure then.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 16:24:24
Kelleher has more or less said he wants to leave too, but did so in a very respectful way.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 16:27:35
@Nevada. Do you really believe everything you read?
4.) 12 Jul 2024 19:07:48
Less and less by the day.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 19:34:07
Not only believe it, make it up in the first place.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 15:17:50
Ed out of curiosity what would you do with our current CB situation?
{Ed002's Note - Replace Matip with SVDB and add Pacho to replace Konate, give VvD a two year extension.}
7.) 12 Jul 2024 21:56:33
Great question, succinct answer, thanks SR and Ed, good stuff!
8.) 13 Jul 2024 00:47:07
Thanks for the answer Ed. Would your starting cb partnership be virgil and quansah going into this season? Personally I think quansah has to start after his breakthrough last season.
{Ed002's Note - I think so.}
9.) 13 Jul 2024 01:35:35
Is there interest in Konate Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - Nothing serious.”
10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:11:40
Spot on Ed02.
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15 May 2025 13:48:47
Who Are We Going to Be?
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I don't think it's unfair or insightful to say that we just won our title with klopps players playing a far more controlled version of klopps football.
Arne is (unlike amorim) smart enough to realise the players he has can't play his way so how about getting them to the best version of how they can play.
This summer it's very likely Arne will get the cash to shape the team to how he wants to play. But what exactly is that?
I think the answer to that question can be answered by looking at two things -
1. Who arne favours
2. Who arne and the club are targeting
Throughout the season key players for Arne have been players who all share one ability. At first I just thought it was players with high stamina but actually the key attribute they all share is the ability to break defensive lines with the ball at their feet.
Gravenberch is an obvious example but Mac, szobozlsai, Salah, Cody, Diaz are all very adept at doing that. Even robbo loves to do it he's just not as good as he used to be.
This also explains why Arne seems to favour Bradley over Trent anyway because Trent breaks lines with passing but Conor does it with the ball at his feet.
If you look at the players the club is seriously looking at they all share this trait as well. Kerkez, frimpong and wirtz all Excell at this.
I think this tells us that next season we won't be a fast transitional team like under klopp at all. We will be a possession based team using movement with the ball to create chances and fast short range passing.
The advantage is of course that it's much easier to succeed with a short range pass than smash a laser guided long range missile. It's a system which anyone should be capable in even if they're less gifted with passing range.
Secondly it's a system designed for high pressing opponents. The idea of high pressing is to force the opponent into playing it long and concede possession. Gravenberch has been so successful because he doesn't usually need to do that because he just carries the ball past the press instead, having more of those types of players means it's easier to beat a high energy press, in theory.
I think this explains why we are linked with players like frimpong, wirtz etc because they're all very capable of beating a press with the ball.
I also think this means that probably Salah will move inside to the centre next season and play a little deeper knowing that he too can beat a press and frimpong will do the hard yards on the outside as more of a traditional style full length wingback. Kerkez would do the same.
I think it could be a really interesting season next year to see how we play. If I'm right with what Im saying I think it'll be very effective in the high pressing premier league.
My only doubts really are that we are recruiting from leagues which offer tons of space and aren't physical so it's easy to beat presses in bundesliga and a lot of bundesliga players struggle when they come to premier league.
For every bobby who slots in well there is a Werner who struggles with the more robust pressing and defending.
1.) 15 May 2025 14:34:53
Frimpong is anything but possession. He is similar to Aaron lenon. As much as we have seen Slot prefers to keep the ball and foreever. And then you should also consider he is a headcoach and some singnings are above him.
2.) 15 May 2025 14:52:05
A lot of your post makes sense, but then you also write Arne favours Bradley over Trent, which is strange, because I don't recall a single league/ CL game where both were fit and he started Conor over Trent.
3.) 15 May 2025 14:55:37
I am sorry but how did you reach to the conclusion that Slot prefers Bradley to Taa. At Feyenord, Slot changed tactics every season within the possession framework. I am really starting to think that he does not have a fixed way of playing and that might be his greatest attribute.
4.) 15 May 2025 15:04:41
In fairness its been the worst player in a good while. Great we won it but Dick Hughes and Co can't take any credit for it. Let's just see how they let us down going into next season.
5.) 15 May 2025 17:15:30
You are a happy soul, Harry. Have you ever called yourself Victor Meldrew, amongst the plethora of names you keep giving yourself?
6.) 15 May 2025 17:22:29
Frimpong is class lads, I scouted him while he was at Celtic. But it’s quite hard to judge if it was just because he was playing in Scotland. What he has done for Leverkusen confirms he is the real deal.
A total menace going forward and his work rate is phenomenal, so getting back to defend isn’t a problem. Another player I wanted at Liverpool one day hopefully will join and be better than TAA ever was.
7.) 16 May 2025 03:43:36
The people pushing the Klopp's Team narrative are just desperate to diminish the league title. These mutants think that the club having a prepared squad is somehow a matter of luck, and it means more if the new manager has to build his own team.
This is why Liverpool have continuity and why Man Utd don't.
14 May 2025 12:43:48
I'm curious about something so which is the most important attribute in your opinion. You can only choose one with no caveats or what ifs
Speed
Strength
Technical skill
Game reading
Work rate.
1.) 14 May 2025 12:54:51
Work rate.
2.) 14 May 2025 12:58:35
I’d chose football instinct which enables ‘game reading’ from the list. Most recently Bobby had it in spades.
Like most sports instinct is key. It can’t be taught you either have it or you don’t and if you don't you never will.
3.) 14 May 2025 13:01:11
Game reading, if you know when and where to be, you don't need any of the other skills as much.
4.) 14 May 2025 13:06:06
The rest are useful but fundamentally you couldn't make it to the highest level without knowing how to read a game, e. g finding space in midfield, the penalty box for strikers, etc.
5.) 14 May 2025 13:13:03
I think you forgot mentality, Nevada.
6.) 14 May 2025 13:18:14
This is so hard because any one of this without any other is literally useless. But I'd go with work rate. The rest can at least be worked on in training but for work rate, it's either you have it or you don't.
7.) 14 May 2025 13:21:46
It's kind of a pointless question as you need a sufficient amount of all of them and it also depends on the position.
8.) 14 May 2025 13:36:16
Technical skill and Work Rate are easily most important.
The other 4 can be improved with work rate but literally every player needs technical skill to be a decent player.
I'll go technical skill number 1.
9.) 14 May 2025 13:44:46
All of the above lol.
10.) 14 May 2025 13:55:34
Techical skill, no brainer. No point having pace for example if you can’t play football. There are plenty of quick players who can’t play football and never get better, like Theo Walcott’s career.
11.) 14 May 2025 14:01:52
For football manager? speed, always speed ;) for the real world, i guess game reading however you wouldn't want to be weak at any of them.
12.) 14 May 2025 16:31:07
Professionalism.
13.) 14 May 2025 22:33:09
Thanksnfor the replies. I was just curious because the thing people talk about the most on here is pace. Time and again people want the signing with high pace so I was just curious what people would say outside the context of a potential signing.
13 May 2025 17:00:47
If people don't like Trent because he's not great at defending and gets caught out of position a lot then I can't see how you'd want him replaced by frimpong who has the exact same habits?
He's barely even played as a defender for Leverkusen anyway. Mostly played as a very attacking winger.
Not saying he's a bad player he's clearly not, but if defensive solidity is what you want you don't then pick another player who is very rarely in position and gets beat one on one all the time.
1.) 13 May 2025 17:46:52
Easy. Flexibility. RB is not a priority, and we seem to like Bradley as RB. But buying a player for around 35million is hard to do, especially one that could cover, or start, for RB and Right winger.
Also, his profile helps to change tactics during the game.
It seems like a shwred signing.
2.) 13 May 2025 18:02:44
Plus he's homegrown which makes it a no brainer.
3.) 13 May 2025 18:09:16
I have to admit to having doubts about his defending, but then the previous incumbent is hardly Maldini. Frimpong is one of the best attacking full backs in Europe and he’s evidently very keen to join. I think Slot can iron out his issues.
4.) 13 May 2025 18:18:03
He is excellent value given his skill set, experience, desire to come and relationships with other players in the squad. Bradley is an excellent player but he likes to come inside and underlap into the box, frimpong likes to go outside and cross or cut the ball back into the box, he has elite pace and he is excellent taking defenders on one on one. He offers something very different from the other players in our squad given he's a wide player who does the most damage staying wide, plus he offers goal threat. If he cost 50 mill plus then I would say he might not be worth it, but at the price his release clause is he would be an opportunistic purchase if there ever was one. I'm sure if slot wants to bring him in he already has a very clear idea of how to convert him into a full back in a four man back line or play him further forward to rotate with mo.
5.) 13 May 2025 18:19:00
Yeah, agree with D_f and RS. Nevada, I would agree with you if he is being bought only to be our first choice RB. However, he is a rotation option for both Mo and Conor. Conor, Mo or Trent couldn't cover both RW and RB to a decent standard but Frimpong can.
Interestingly, finances aside, I could see us buying BOTH Hato and Kerkez for defence. Hato, more traditional defender, could be used along with Frimpong where attacks are more down the right, conversely Kerkez could attack down the left whilst Bradley is a bit more defensive on the right. Hato can also rotate into CB and Frimpong into RW.
Slot shows he likes to trust a smaller group of players, so positional flexibility is key.
6.) 13 May 2025 18:26:08
In fairness he hasn't been ASKED to play RB at Leverkusen, and he can't be much worse than Trent defensively. Think another good point is that he would bring some much needed pace to the side.
7.) 13 May 2025 18:37:11
I don't think it matters what fans want.
It’s what Slot and the transfer team want that counts defensively solid or not.
8.) 13 May 2025 18:44:39
If Romano and other fringe sources are the primary sources I would still be a bit wary as that could be agent noise. I would wait for Ornstein or Joyce to confirm more.
9.) 13 May 2025 19:00:47
Daft signing if it happens imo. Yeah he may be destroying the German league as an attacking full back but he can't defend, reminds me of Kyle Walker tbh. Recovery pace covers the fact he not good defensively.
As for anyone saying he would be cover for Mo and offers flexibility, give over ?.
That being said, its not my choice to make and I will get behind whoever is brought in. RB ain't a priority LB and CF are. I would even say we need 2x CFs because the 2 we have are rubbish and don't fit Slots way.
10.) 13 May 2025 19:51:52
This lad can cover 3 positions and it looks like he is first choice and actually wants to come. HG as a bonus it’s a no brainer.
11.) 13 May 2025 20:18:29
Frimpong is just a Liverpool fan and his dreams are about to come true.
12.) 13 May 2025 20:24:38
I’d put the £35m towards the striker, left back and centre midfielders we need and use Gomez to cover right back.
13.) 13 May 2025 21:21:34
At the end of the day the club seemed to want to keep Trent. So that suggests to me that we value attacking outputs from that position and flexibility. We already have Bradley so it would make sense to bring in a more attack minded player. For that price, his talents, his flexibility, that he is homegrown, it’s just makes too much sense.
Also, is it not possible for people to make points without hyperbole? LOL Frimpong gets beaten all the time!? Lol.
14.) 13 May 2025 21:54:26
Kaiser, Ornstein has said that Frimpong is keen, has relatively low wages and Liverpool are the only club advancing on signing him. I think this will happen.
15.) 14 May 2025 03:35:03
I get what people are saying regarding attacking attributes there's no denying it. That's why xabi swapped him to right wing - because his defending is suspect.
Just seems odd that for best part of a year people have moaned about Trent's defending and now want to get a replacement who's passing and crossing is worse, defending is the same. The only thing that's an improvement is he's faster.
Personally I think the money is better spent on a centre back, striker and left back.
If frimpong is coming then I can see either a formation change to a 352 to accommodate him better or for Salah to move inside and jerry to take his spot as a more traditional winger to feed Salah.
06 May 2025 21:29:22
Question for ed001 -
If we sign frimpong do you see slot playing him further forward on the right wing and Salah moving central? Jerry has pretty much played as a right winger for two years under xabi and he's much more suited to the kind of right wing player that slot usually favours.
It would also help keep Salah in the area of the pitch that slot prefers his goal scorer to be - the centre.
{Ed001's Note - that is a possibility I am sure to alter things midmatch, but we are looking for a centre forward so I doubt that is the plan as a main set up.}
1.) 06 May 2025 21:48:08
Edd001 is isak possible atall or will Newcastle price him out of the market?
{Ed001's Note - I don't know, it comes down to their PSR status.}
06 May 2025 09:53:53
Nevada has written an article entitled, Liverpool FC and Trent Alexander-Arnold
1.) 06 May 2025 11:32:06
I completely agree with all of that mate, well said.
2.) 06 May 2025 12:56:11
I couldn't agree more.
3.) 06 May 2025 14:47:59
Nevada . your missing the whole point why most people are upset . its not that he's leaving . the fact is he's leaving for nothing, zilch, didley squat. he knew exactly what he was doing. n of course Madrid told him not to sign otherwise they wouldn't have bought him . so wonder how that made him feel. but he's done what he's done . n he should never be spoken as a legend or anything similar . we should treat him how he has treated the fans n club. everythin was on his terms n people want to give him sympathy .
4.) 06 May 2025 14:49:08
I backed him all the way and treated him with maximum respect so I feel it's not a fans decision. He's let the loyal fans down. Imagine if after 20 years and multimillion pound I decided to change supporting a different club all because I felt like a change!?!
No I'm not accepting the bs from him or cheering him anymore.
5.) 06 May 2025 15:26:35
Preaching to the choir there, Nevada. Well done, sir.
6.) 07 May 2025 02:09:57
Very good post Nevada.
He's a young man doing what he thinks is best for him. Can't blame him for that.
I wish him well.
7.) 07 May 2025 02:36:53
The sense of betrayal goes a lot deeper than just leaving on a free.
For the longest time Trent sold us his dream of captaining Liverpool and being the next Steven Gerrard. He pushed the narrative that 'this means more'. He put his neck out to claim that winning 1 league with Liverpool is worth more than 4 or 5 with City. And yet at the same time in the last few years his effort levels have noticeably dropped while his vanity and ego have risen. I'm not having this absolute cop out that having to attack and defend justifies his lack of energy in the defensive third. Robertson had to attack and defend too. Fullbacks need to be terriers and he defends like a Labrador.
And I'm not having this Oscar worthy performance in the farewell video either. 'Haredest decision of my life' loool shut up. You've been planning this for years mate. Don't Sashay down the F1 grid walk in that stupid get up and pretend you don't have your eyes on the glamour of Real Madrid.
Had his on field effors had been more consistent and tenacious and had he not pushed these dreamy narratives about Liverpool then I think the general reaction would be far more circumspect than what it is. If you've made this many people angry then it's probably your fault.
13 May 2025 16:58:33
If chiesa heads back to Italy his most likely destinations are Napoli and Fiorentina. Napoli have scouted, can afford but aren't sure.
Fiorentina are sure but can't afford.
13 May 2025 16:56:14
I'm not convinced he's an upgrade on Elliot. I think people are getting YouTube fever.
I watched him a fair bit this year and he's got talent but he wastes the ball so often. He reminds me much more of Antony than any other player.
09 May 2025 14:09:26
Du cuyper should be in this list as Liverpool scouts have been spotted watching him numerous times this season. He also fits the fsg model more.
08 May 2025 06:49:23
For ages everyone moaned about our entire midfield losing their legs and now people actively want us to sign one? Premier league isn't Kev's level anymore. He'll be doing himself a kindness heading off to MLS where he is still talented enough to be th best player in the league.
07 May 2025 23:41:47
United is the team who are likely to sign him. Madrid had been scouting him and very interested but decided to back out.
15 May 2025 14:01:42
I agree with MK if players are obsessed with Madrid/ Barca perhaps we should pass on those.
Should be the first interview question - did you support Barcelona ir Madrid growing up?
Yes.
"Well thanks for coming in we'll be in touch soon. "
15 May 2025 13:59:59
People have to remember that Graham now has an independent data analysis company that works for multiple clubs and sports so he's obviously not going to talk about mistakes, we'll at least not his team's mistakes. He was certainly happy to talk about how clueless Brendan was.
14 May 2025 22:33:09
Thanksnfor the replies. I was just curious because the thing people talk about the most on here is pace. Time and again people want the signing with high pace so I was just curious what people would say outside the context of a potential signing.
14 May 2025 12:40:52
Honestly fans need to stop acting like a jilted ex over Trent. It's embarrassing. How can the club who sings you'll never walk alone then behave this way.
We either need to live the value or stop singing that song because for some fans it should be "you'll never walk alone as long as you spend your entire career at Liverpool"
14 May 2025 03:35:03
I get what people are saying regarding attacking attributes there's no denying it. That's why xabi swapped him to right wing - because his defending is suspect.
Just seems odd that for best part of a year people have moaned about Trent's defending and now want to get a replacement who's passing and crossing is worse, defending is the same. The only thing that's an improvement is he's faster.
Personally I think the money is better spent on a centre back, striker and left back.
If frimpong is coming then I can see either a formation change to a 352 to accommodate him better or for Salah to move inside and jerry to take his spot as a more traditional winger to feed Salah.