Liverpool banter 4

27 Sep 2026 14:23:33
Should lfc fans boo Man City?

Hell YES, we should start a trend. Boo them every time they get the ball. Make a huge statement to say what they have done and continue to do is not acceptable. Even now the stance to say they are innocent of all charges is a disgrace.

Every football supporter in the EPL should boo this club in every game. It will send a message world wide. It will make sponsors think twice about their association with cheats! The fact they still deny the charges makes me sick.

Every football supporter should show they will never be accepted as a truly great club, their history will always show them for what they are!

We know what you are.

27 Sep 2026 14:33:42
Let's hope the refs that cheated along the way giving them bias decisions are rattling a bit.

27 Sep 2026 15:42:48
Nah Just do that stupid bloody Poznan they do all the way through the game.

27 Sep 2026 16:38:10
LiverpoolFC8 ?????? spot on.

27 Sep 2026 17:33:15
I was thinking similarly that we should set a precedent and boo them, shout cheats, cheats cheats! But most importantly we should beat them. That will give other teams confidence for the season ahead. Also great point regarding sponsors. Which sponsor would want their name tarnished by associating themselves with the club?!?

27 Sep 2026 18:26:13
Spot on, LFC08. Those refs going to Abhu Dabi to ref games in a leagyue the City owners have a stake in and getting paid for it needs to be investigated.

27 Sep 2026 19:45:59
Just beat them. Thats what matters. why boo players that have nothing to do with the cheating?

27 Sep 2026 19:51:52
The poznan is copied from other clubs nothing original about city.

28 Sep 2026 00:55:32
Well, they booed Trent.
Seems only fair they'd boo another team lol

On a serious note, I kinda hope Anfield rises above it and finds a way to show disdain to the City owners.

I feel There is a risk it boils over and the players cop abuse from sideline fans. I hope that doesn't happen.

28 Sep 2026 12:50:55
I prefer to cheer for my team than waste energy booing opponents.

Only time I have is the penalty shoot out in Istanbul 2005.

27 Sep 2026 12:50:16
{Ed's Note - KingCarlos has posted a new article entitled, Manchester City and Alleged Rule Breaches

27 Sep 2026 13:03:34
Thanks Ed's for posting!

{Ed033's Note - Thanks.

27 Sep 2026 16:52:21
Great article and why they should have the library throw at them.

27 Sep 2026 18:04:12
Thanks for taking time to do all that, King Carlos.

27 Sep 2026 18:20:08
Thanks for that KC.

27 Sep 2026 20:01:12
Brilliant read.

27 Sep 2026 20:09:45
A great little explainer. It's a shame HMRC never discloses who it's investigating. From an accounting POV. It's hard to see how City's declared financial statements having been audited wouldn't highlight this mismatch to HMRC.

During corona, a company I worked for mis-declared it's tax liability by £1.2m it corrected that declaration 14 months later it had to pay the £1.2m back with a 35% fine charged as well as the interest on the £1.2m charge at 2% per quarter.

This was HMRC being lenient in corona, where the mistake was genuine( they had an incompetent accountant) for blatantly mis declaring the tax liability I can't even begin to fathom the fine then the interest charged on the payments made.

The lawsuits will be a funny one. A particularly relevant example might be Aston Villa. who finished 6th 2 seasons in a row the first season being 08/09, then city finished 10th, just as these payments began, the next year villa finished 6th with City 5th, having bought Villas captain with the illicit funds.

the lawsuits themselves from the prem clubs as well as the Premier League(the estimated cost of this is £100m in legal fees and other expenses) and HMRC fines should absolutely send Mn City under (hopefully to Newco Rangers levels.)

{Ed666's Note - I bet your popular at parties..

27 Sep 2026 20:38:29
We can't all be as edgy as having the the number of the beast as our names ed666.

{Ed666's Note - I aim to use my superpowers for good and not evil my friend. I hope you had a great weekend mate

27 Sep 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Bournemouth v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

27 Sep 2026 09:28:33
Cheers Ed001, great review.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Taurus.

27 Sep 2026 10:35:10
These reports are really great to read. Much appreciated ED01. The back line is starting to look very much improved however I'm still not a Kerkez fan but admittedly Rayan didn't get much change out of him either! I'm really looking forward to the Man City one!!????.

{Ed001's Note - thank you so much sg. City game will be very interesting!

27 Sep 2026 08:57:27
Thanks as always Ed.
It is so frustrating when you see great creators having to look bad as no-one makes the right run. I see it at all levels and sports.
The ball is played and no-one moves to that space. They should know each other by now and surely it is shown in the analysis sessions with the players.

{Ed001's Note - Barcola is now & Isak just doesn't look fit. I am sure it will improve.

27 Sep 2026 11:58:51
Mate i want to read the Southampton review!

27 Sep 2026 12:00:17
How do you think we are going to fair against city ed1. They mite have a point to prove?

{Ed001's Note - they will have a point to prove, but they might also be distracted, it really depends on how well Maresca does his job. If he does it right, they will be fired up and at it, but if he doesn't, they will have their future in the back of their mind and all the worries over what will happen.}

27 Sep 2026 12:47:06
Great review, Ed. Thank heavens you're here to offer such balanced, nuanceed and effective analysis on our games & plyer/manager performances because what we are being afflicted with by the media is like pulling teeth or hearing someone continuously scratch a fork on a plate.

I agree with your assessment of the players and the way the game went. it was a very hard game indeed because B'mouth were up for it for obv. reasons. LFC did some good things but that connection btw midfield and attack is still a work in progress because you not only have new players playing a new system, we have players form last season like Wirtz and Isak lacking in confidence to execute their decisions properly.

Glad we got the win under the difficult circumstances with a clean sheet to boot.

On to the Eternel Cheats at Anfield next.

27 Sep 2026 14:27:54
Not sure if anyone caught Virgil's interview after the game. He mentioned the pitch was extremely dry. Klopp used to mention the surfaces from time to time when the accuracy of the forward play was lacking which I know would rile fans.

While none of like to hear excuses, for players like Wirtz who play football like they are neurosurgeons, it probably does have some impact on their game.

27 Sep 2026 14:52:32
Love the reviews!

One thing I agree we need to improve is the off the ball movement. I yelled a few times at my screen when no one was moving when any of the midfielders or Wirtz had the ball.

27 Sep 2026 17:27:13
Nice review but this one can lace the boots of tue Southampton Liverpool review.

27 Sep 2026 18:27:41
I caught that, Pelican re: VVD's pitch comment, lol.

27 Sep 2026 19:26:50
"When Isak's fit" has just taken a tumble. Literally.

Oh, my thigh, guy.

27 Sep 2026 00:41:47
In other sports cheating eg drug taking in Athletics medal gets given to runner up. Football should be no different.

27 Sep 2026 03:15:29
But in cycling, the runners up did not get awarded the Tour de France after the "winners" got stripped of their titles.

Imo, we should look at the precedent set in football itself. Personally I feel that like with Juventus, the titled should be stripped from City but it should stop there. There shouldn't be any awarding of titles to the runners up.

27 Sep 2026 00:57:26
Are you suggesting that everybody at Manchester City was taking performance enhancing drugs?

27 Sep 2026 06:49:41
There is a very different scenario here.

Runner up may not have been winner if all the points associated with the City games were cancelled out in the table.

If you are reconstructing a table from 2009-2018 (the years the charges relate too) city win the league I think twice (maybe 3 depends how charges run into the years)?

Then I guess you could say but they drew strength and power and force from those years so strip points from following seasons.

It is impossible to reconstruct like that there would always be a valid argument.

Strip the title and leave at that if that is a punishment - no league winner!

27 Sep 2026 07:11:10
@WDW - No, he isn't suggesting that. An ounce of context will tell you that.

27 Sep 2026 08:38:41
This affects every league. If Man Cheaty get relegated, then there is a footballing powerhouse in the next league down. Unless they also start each season a large minus number of points, they would stop one team promoted that would otherwise have been promoted.

Personally I think they should be stripped of their titles and cups. A huge fine. Other PL teams will also go after them for lost revenues which will massively compound the fine. -70 points this season, -50 next, and -30 the year after.

And being relegated would give a slightly increased chance to survive to Spurs lmao.

27 Sep 2026 09:18:29
If titles are taken off city and awarded to second team for the years in question we get 2 and united get 3.

27 Sep 2026 09:38:24
Can't be having that, Langland.

27 Sep 2026 10:09:49
Actually I stand potentially corrected as I asked chatgbt to take all of the Man City points away for 2007/8 to 2017/18 and recalculate the league (taking all those points points for teams gained against them too) and we would get 1 more league and Man United x 2. But let's be honest that is ridiculous I feel a little embarrassed I even did that ?

I really do think the only course is expulsion and a minimum time to return of say 5 years. If they take their 2 or 3 titles then they just become no champion league seasons!

27 Sep 2026 10:36:55
I'm with Dracred.

27 Sep 2026 09:45:55
I think you'll find that inaccurate Langland. It's at best for United even, But per above it would be hard to do that without argument.

27 Sep 2026 11:28:40
In serie A they actually stripped juve and gave it to third placed inter (Milan were caught cheating too) using the rationale that inter had actually earned it fairly so why should they not receive the prize they earned because those above them cheated?

Also if you totally remove the results of all city games from those season most of the league stays the same just minus city at the top.

27 Sep 2026 12:54:46
@Dracred on the Tour De France topic and I could be wrong but I think the reason no runner's up was given the Armstong titles was because some of them were also caught doping is well, I think.

On the titles to be given to runner's up, I perosonally don't want them and I want them to be Null & Void completely, just like in the VA-OM scandal of 1993 in France. That season no longer exists in their record books and no one realy brings it up either.

Also, I would like City to be sent to League 2 (if they will have them) with a mandatory 3 year sentence in thatn competition along with a 5 year transfer ban.

For me, they need the whole library thrown at them in order for the correct/proper precedent to be set, imo.

27 Sep 2026 18:06:19
@Lowe1, I know what he meant and I was replying humorously on a banter site - just imagine that!

26 Sep 2026 20:43:18
Is our 1st game after the internationals against City ??that's going to be tasty.

26 Sep 2026 23:21:37
I remember when the Melbourne Storm got done for salary cap breaches in NRL (Rugby league in australia). They got massive points deduction etc.

The next game they played they came out firing and absolute smashed the next team lol and then went on a revenge tour for the rest of the season hahaha.

27 Sep 2026 02:06:00
I can tell you a funny story about that Faithworks, they used a payroll product from the company I used to work at. Unfortunately not online.

27 Sep 2026 09:13:51
KC - can you tell it as a children bedtime story? :D.

27 Sep 2026 12:56:16
OP, a mosaic of "C-H-E-A-T-S" in the Anfield Road/Kop ends would be apt well-appreciated, imo.

26 Sep 2026 19:25:09
Ed's can we have a vote on do we want the prem titles off city yes or no please.

{Ed033's Note -


Man City Titles poll

26 Sep 2026 20:10:54
I voted yes because I want them stripped of the titles. Not particularly interested in getting the titles for the years we finished second.

Sigh. When I think of the early years their player roster went three deep and they could field 3 competitive teams any time they wanted.

26 Sep 2026 22:29:08
Yes, because they cheated and thought they were above the rules of the game. The Premier League have at last shown some spine; now I hope they will follow that with meaningful penalties, particularly after swinging points deductions for very much lesser rule breaking.

27 Sep 2026 01:10:57
I@ND, City was / is a means to an end for Msnsour and co. I'm sure they would profess their undying love for the game and their love for Manchester City but I believe there were stronger motives for them buying City.

The ruling that City were guilty was the work of an independent panel and not the PL.
it will be interesting to see what the punishment will be and it also begs a different question about how the PL missed the events at City for the 5 years under review and how the intend to improve their scrutiny of PL clubs and their behaviour going forwards.

27 Sep 2026 12:58:12
I voted No because I don't want the Stench of the Emptyhad anywhere near our glorious trophy room.

Null and Void that rubbish, btw.

26 Sep 2026 17:17:38
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Bournemouth v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

26 Sep 2026 18:21:19
Thanks for this Ed - much appreciated mate

One other thing, for me there are positive signs going forward but no doubt will be bumps in the road but how do you rate Iraola in his first few months in the hot seat?

Thanks in advance Ed.

{Ed001's Note - he has moved us forward and we look a much stronger team each week. He still has us unbeaten, despite having a bit of a mess to figure out left over to him. I think we should all be pleased. We are showing progress.}

26 Sep 2026 18:56:02
Thanks Ed top read as always ?.

{Ed001's Note - thanks Tim.}

26 Sep 2026 19:39:11
Thanks again Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

26 Sep 2026 19:48:54
Thanks Ed, you tha man as always!! Appreciate you.

{Ed001's Note - thanks KP!}

26 Sep 2026 20:41:25
Thanks Ed001, love the reviews as always.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Robbie.}

26 Sep 2026 21:52:39
Well said and done Ed001! Chief.

{Ed001's Note - thanks Chief.}

27 Sep 2026 03:43:50
Extremely informative again, Ed01. Loved it.

{Ed001's Note - thanks Das.}

27 Sep 2026 13:01:24
Top read, Ed. very informative, balanced and nuanced.

And I agree with you that AI has progressed us quite a bit even if you go by the first two games of the season, overall.

Baby steps and some self-belief will help us esp. with the wins and clean sheets we are getting.

It is more than imperative that we all persevere through this if we want the right rewards.

Impatience will not change a damn thing.

Klopp taught us that.

{Ed001's Note - I am loving the defending being so aggressive again. So much better to see a defender trying to win the ball rather than dropping off.}

27 Sep 2026 19:30:31
Agreed, Ed. I love the front-footedness of the team. Rather than attacking from a defensive crouch.

26 Sep 2026 16:39:45
Ed1 I think it's clear things are goi g to get very messy for City, is the independent commissions punishment final once it's confirmed or can the FA add further punishment?

Also can UEFA start legal proceeding again despite CAS over turning their conviction in 2020 on top of the multiple fines and compensation claims that are goi go to be lodged by multiple clubs over the last 9 years?

{Ed001's Note - The commission's punishment can be appealed by either party, so it could add more, yes.

UEFA's conviction was not overturned by CAS, simply the punishment as the offences were time-barred under UEFA's rules. So no, UEFA are unlikely to start proceedings again, they already found them guilty of most of the same things once already. It probably bears repeating that City were found guilty by CAS, but they ruled that no convictions could be upheld as the offences were outside the time period allowed.}

26 Sep 2026 17:20:52
U mentioned in a previous thread ed1 that in your opinion city will get points deduction and fined. Say they get massive points deduction and our relegated. Really would that make that much difference to them to be out of prem league for 1 season? I'm think most of there players would stay if it only 1 year out of prem league considering v few clubs could give them wages city give them.

The fine would be irrelevant almost to them.

{Ed001's Note - I would expect the points deduction to be spread over multiple seasons.

26 Sep 2026 18:31:31
That would be the appropriate punishment, over a number of seasons.

If they get deducted one time, theyl have 2 seasons, the season with deduction and the season in the championship that will set them back. After that they'll be back to normal.

26 Sep 2026 18:33:59
Thanks for response. That would be a lot different.

26 Sep 2026 18:53:47
Come what may, I think the idea of clubs taking legal action against City is just horrendous - it's a pit of hell that would run for years and years, and where would it end?

To avoid this, I feel that the punishments need to be brutal: all titles, cups etc wiped from the record (but without awarding those titles to the runners up); a 60 point deduction for three consecutive seasons, and a massive fine to be allocated amongst any of the clubs they faced across all those seasons - which would hopefully negate the need for individual actions. With City picking up the PL's legal costs (obviously).

26 Sep 2026 18:55:42
Biggest football scandal in this country of the entire modern era

It's a massive thing, it's probably tarnished the club for the next 50 years.

I reckon the damage from that alone could be more detrimental than the pending punishments.

26 Sep 2026 19:06:36
The punishment should be directed at the club not the players or fans. The players won the trophies the club cheated not the players. I think a 20 point deduction for 5 seasons would be a reasonable punishment and a three year transfer ban. I think it's not unreasonable for the owners to be banned from the Premier League as well.

26 Sep 2026 19:42:29
It's only my opinion, but I don't see why ManCheats shouldn't be stripped of their titles. Nothing against the players, they're simply professional sportsmen who work for a living for whoever wants to pay them.

Points deductions are only a part of it for me. Titles won should be stripped too. Points deductions is the punishment. Stripping titles is correcting the wrongs. Their monicker of best EPL team under the Guardiola years, needs to be corrected, otherwise it's a falsehood that the history books will keep repeating.

{Ed666's Note - I think stripping is an organic punishment but extremely hard to execute due to the tsunami of litigation that will ensue. The likelihood is that had there not been financial irregularities would they have amassed such a glittering array of players and won so many matches/trophies? The answer would probably be no so why should they get to keep ill gotten gains? City will appeal and let’s see what the final judgement will be?

26 Sep 2026 19:55:09
man cheaty versus spurs in the championship next year, ,

26 Sep 2026 20:07:03
I actually think the punishment needs to be expulsion from the Premier League and stripping of all titles. The charges are just way to large and damning to be anything short of that.

On that note and because of the poll, I'm curious why people here think they shouldn't be stripped of titles and trophies? I just don't see how you can't do that regardless of how messy it is. If the league doesn't, it's basically saying you can cheat to win now and pay later. If all they get are points deductions and fines, I bet their owners would do it all over again; it allows them to sportswash, build a club, and just have a couple years of not being competitive.

Overall, given the severity of the charges, the league need to give the harshest possible punishment so that this never happens again. Points deductions and fines are just not enough.

26 Sep 2026 20:48:08
Allowing them to keep the titles is like allowing a burglar to keep the stuff he stole.

26 Sep 2026 21:57:05
Man cheaty need to make that stick.

26 Sep 2026 23:54:55
This is probably worse than anything Serie A has been a party to over the years. A smear on the English game.

27 Sep 2026 10:41:16
I like that comparison Nevada. Spot on.

27 Sep 2026 13:04:39
Love that, Nevada. Kinda like letting the bank robbers keep their booty after they got found guily of bank robbery.

To me, they should get stipped of their titles, Null & Void those seasons and relegate them to League 2 for 3 years mandatory witj a transfer ban for 5 years.

If Cheaty are as big as their fans think they are then, they should have no issues coming back up.

26 Sep 2026 15:22:58
Hi Eds, guys and gals

Is it possible that Pep Guardiola knew City would be found guilty soon and that is why he left?
I don't feel their punishment will fit their crime.
Even if u look at how officials would officiate for City, it tells you all you need to know

Fsadulla.

{Ed001's Note - he took the job knowing they were guilty, he is not afraid to cheat, he doped as a player and he was involved at Barca while they were bribing officials. Why would he care if they cheated? Only thing he would have cared about is if they would get punished while he was in charge.}

26 Sep 2026 16:06:15
100% right ed1 he took the job knowing they were cheats, and stayed as he knew they were delaying the hearings and trying to stop the legal action altogether.

He knew it would come out this year so left so it doesn't "taint" his legacy.

26 Sep 2026 16:42:15
Edd001 what about Arteta he was with pep from day one is he being investigated along with Pep?

{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of.}

26 Sep 2026 17:42:24
Julian Ward worked for City up to 2012. Where does it end?

26 Sep 2026 18:18:50
There is a lot of evidence to show that Barca and the Spanish national team were allegedly doping during peps stint there. The same doctor who got pep banned for steroids use was hired as Barca club doctor during that period.

And a second doctor who had been banned from cycling after getting caught allegedly issuing PEDs was also hired by Barca at the time.

Pretty much all of peps career appears fraudulent.

At Bayern he tried to bring the second doctor but Bayern said no as they had a longstanding agreement with their club doctor already. Pep consistently picked fights with the doctor and blamed defeats on him publicly on the sidelines.

27 Sep 2026 10:05:07
Ed, I wasn't even aware Peo got a doping ban as a player, looking into it, apparently he was fully cleared in 2009, with advancements in science proving the low levels were produced naturally?

{Ed001's Note - could have been produced naturally, yet so few failed the testing. Amazing that isn't it?

27 Sep 2026 11:34:57
That is not why pep was cleared lol.

He was cleared because his team found a very rare occurrence called unstable urine, which is basically where a sample given is unsuitable for testing and can give false positives.

Peps urine was never tested for unstable urine, by the time they discovered this loophole his urine had already been destroyed by the lab. Because the Italian FA couldn't prove it was stable peps team argued it could have been unstable and he should therefore be exonerated.

Don't buy the nonsense that it was found to be natural, read the actual case the truth is very different. It was basically a technicality.

27 Sep 2026 13:10:14
Okay, let's leave Arteta out of this because it's getting mad now. I know it's all banter but let's not take it further, imo.

Ed01, I had always said about Pep the exact same things. I always knew a man who could get caught cheating twice with drugs has no issues with cheating at all, period.

I alway knew that Pep could not be bothered if City was caught cheating unless in his own mind, it reflects on him badly. because he knew they were guilty, he is fine with bolting before the verdict dropped so he can always convince himself (hence, others) that he knew nothing of it all because the verdict dropped after he left.

Typical deliberate case of, "The left hand pretending to not know what the right hand had been the whole time".

{Ed001's Note - he is still employed by the City Football Group.}

27 Sep 2026 16:16:18
Cheers Ed/Nevada, was completely unaware of all that. I knew he had links to the general Barca doping but didn't realise he'd been found guilty of it himself.
This is what I like about this site, the information you learn that is generally omitted by the mainstream media. Interesting why none of the articles ever mention this type of thing.