Liverpool banter 8

09 Apr 2026 13:25:48
Long time reader, first time poster. Liverpool fan since a kid in the 80’s. I can’t remember a time when we’re this bad. We were not even competitive today. Lucky we weren’t spanked 5 or 6 nil. Slot has to go immediately! How is he still there while the degradation is so extreme?

09 Apr 2026 13:51:22
How do you not remember looking like children bs Real Madrid at home? Real Madrid showed mercy out of pity for us that day.

09 Apr 2026 14:23:40
Faith, are you talking about the 3-1 with BR in the CL 14/15?

Or the 5-2 under Klopp in 22/23? Seriously, I can't tell.

09 Apr 2026 15:46:35
Liverpool lost 3-0 to Real in 14/15.

Perhaps YouTube showed a different game.

09 Apr 2026 17:15:29
So you think this worse than the Hodgson era? We were on brink of administration then and the team was awful. No CL football and down the bottom end of league. Our better players leaving left right and centre I.e Mascherano, Torres.

If you think this is worse than then you are delusional

09 Apr 2026 21:11:32
Oli, well, yeah, 2 examples where it's been dire in recent years.

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09 Apr 2026 15:38:48
Seems more fun to be an Everton fan at the moment, if we are all honest.

09 Apr 2026 12:20:38
Ed's and anyone

What is your opinion of how FSG have handled or not handled the situation we are in?
I mean Henry, Werner and Hogan

For me they've been good owners, re built the most iconic ground in the country, state if the art training facilities and invested in the squad with high quality players at top whack when needed.

When they came in they never gave Roy a second chance - replaced him with Kenny who actually had a really good finish to the season but totally ruthless the next even with a league cup and FA cup final appearance.
Brendan ousted as soon as the signs were there that he'd lost the dressing room.
Klopp enough said!

What I'm struggling with is they're not exactly inexperienced at running a club of this stature and have form for making the right call so surely they could of seen like all of us ( nearly all of us ) the downward spiral of the squad and club and the toxic nature that's festered.

09 Apr 2026 14:32:19
Something I've been saying for years that many don't agree with, but has been proven true in my eyes this season; FSG's number 1 objective is making money. They're not here to make us a dominant force, they're not concerned with returning Liverpool to the glory days, their goal is ROI, they want to see continued revenue growth, merch sales, TV deals etc... They know that staying relevant in the top 4/5 and an odd trophy here or there helps to keep those numbers trending in the right direction, but their focus is not to become a dominant force like we used to be back in the day.

People have argued with me over this, but the proof is in the pudding. We have to sell a player to buy a player; up until this season we'd spent less than 1/3rd of what the likes of Utd and City have over the last 10 years, outside of the 2 big windows we had, we were averaging a net spend of about 30 million per season. I'm not saying you have to spend the most money to create the best team or to win titles, nor do I want to be a team accused of buying titles. I'm just saying that the spending habits of the club under FSG show their true nature in my opinion.



The current season could have been saved months ago, a new manager and a couple of January transfers could have kept us legitimately competing across the 2/3 big competitions, but the club's refusal to act has us fighting a losing battle for 5th. I think the fact that we invested heavily in the summer, and actually ended up going backwards, was one of, if not the main factor for the club's decision not to bring in a new manager or players 4/5 months ago. Personally I believe they weren't willing to lose anymore money on a season they already considered a write-off.

They haven't been bad owners, they have done well by the club, there's no denying that, but the lack of action this season is unacceptable to me, and very telling of their stance. I understand they're an investment group, and that will always be their main focus, but it's times like these you need an owner with a bit of passion, somebody who can really understand the situation and put the needs of the club first.

09 Apr 2026 14:50:14
Chewy, let's not dog on the owners, mate. They have taken us from administration to European and League Champions. This is purely on Edward's, Hughes, and Slot. FSG employ them, and they are in position to deliver the minimum expectations. All three will be gone in the summer. If not, then vent against the owners, as it will be on them. What I would say is, at every juncture, they have acted with the best interests of the club.

When they have got it wrong, they have at least come out and offered an apology and vowed to put it right. They have invested millions across the stadium, training complex, and player investment. Let's reserve judgement until the season is finished, but I am not convinced they are the number one problem in this mess.

09 Apr 2026 16:02:48
Definitely didn't dog on the owners, Charlie. I politely presented a fair argument, and I clearly gave them credit for what they have done for the club. You can't say this is purely on Edwards and Hughes. They do not have final say over decisions like managerial appointments, and where execs are seen to fall short, the owners must step in. That's their responsibility, and they haven't upheld it.



I don't need to reserve judgement until the season is finished. I've had this opinion for years, like I said before, they have done well by the club and I give them credit where it's due, but there's no doubt they lack the depth of passion for the game that the people have. That's what built this club, and that's what we're missing right now.

09 Apr 2026 16:16:37
They've generally been very good on the business side, and we would have a lot more silverware if it wasn't for other clubs playing outside the rules. Slight criticism is the area around Anfield could have been redeveloped more, with more partnership working. But that's not all on the club and the city council and other agencies have been very slow to act.

09 Apr 2026 12:16:34
Sg would rip his arm off to take charge of Liverpool for even 1 match. Plus in doing so would put the belief and fight back into that sorry bunch.

So why is he not in? Or am I totally missing something lads ?‍♂️.

{Ed025's Note - i wish i knew Barry mate..

09 Apr 2026 12:52:11
Because he wants the job on a permanent basis?

09 Apr 2026 12:57:14
Heaven forbid that should ever play out, Irish.

09 Apr 2026 13:04:36
Because their image of being a stable football operation is more important to them than having one bad season and the risk of not qualifying for the CL.

09 Apr 2026 13:14:17
Because they want Alonso. If SG came in now, beat Paris, and we did well in the league. How do they then sack him, even if he said it's only short term, fans would be all over it for him to stay.

09 Apr 2026 13:55:21
Kloppiche, my observation on here is that even when Gerrard was doing well at Rangers, posters were tripping over each other to say they didn't want him as manager. I'm not exactly sure why, but I expect the same would apply to the prospect of him being manager permanently, even he did do well.



I don't think there'd be any push for him to be permanent. Unless he overturned the PSG scoreline and won the CL. But I don't think even a reincarnation of Bob Paisley would manage that given how eroded the confidence and conditioning of the players has become.

09 Apr 2026 14:35:20
Which, ironically, is very much creating an image of an unstable operation in the eyes of many, Frode.

09 Apr 2026 14:42:28
I'm of the opinion that Edwards, being a stat man, simply has absolutely zero interest in bringing Stevie in, whatever way people want to paint it, and has been fighting tooth and nail to avoid it at all costs.

09 Apr 2026 15:08:03
Doing well at Rangers is definitely no recommendation to be the coach/manager of Liverpool tho, SR.

09 Apr 2026 15:17:49
Speak to a Villa fan, and I know loads, about Gerrard. There's a reason he's not in a job.

09 Apr 2026 17:05:15
Just putting it out there... who's to say he isn't getting the job full time anyway? Alonso this Alonso that... is he the right fit just because he won a league in Germany? And flopped at Real Madrid? Bournemouth manager would be more suited to us possible, every manager brought in is a risk.

Gerrard no different. But some people hate him because of the person he was, like we all at sometimes whilst younger been fools. Club legend to me and always will be as a player, better than Alonso, easily. If it's Gerrard, Alonso or Iriola I'll be down with it, not 1 of them can be as bad as Slot.

09 Apr 2026 10:56:15
Unfortunately we do look like an old team. No pace or energy and no bite. We are way off where we were in the Klop era. I really thought Wirtz would be a great signing and he’s got so much ability but our style of play doesn’t suit him and the high intensity of the premiership also does not suit him.

We need to find another Mane and Mo as we have a lot of work to do to get back to the top and just hope we get the right signings in the summer but I’m not convinced this will happen.

{Ed025's Note - i think you need a bit more than that Jgrant..

09 Apr 2026 11:32:32
The only player we have bought that is vaguely interested in tackling over the past 6 years is Wataru Endo. This is where you end up.

09 Apr 2026 12:03:00
I'm sorry, there is still a very good team there. They just need the tactics and fitness training to sort it out. And maybe a manager who is interested.

09 Apr 2026 12:22:36
We are fine. We have a squad that, with a couple of replacements for the old guard, will be right up there. Obviously, with a better manager too.

I think our demise is being massively overstated. We are not in as bad a place as some of you think.

{Ed025's Note - ostrich syndrome..

09 Apr 2026 13:08:37
You really have to be extracting the urine, Pwm, mate.

09 Apr 2026 13:19:03
Well, if you say so, @Paul.

09 Apr 2026 13:40:17
Our demise is massively overstated???? You are having a laugh!!! And it's not funny. Not in the slightest!! We're in big trouble, and anyone who thinks not must be on tranquilisers!!! We're horrendous. Possibly the worst Liverpool team performances I've seen in a whole season let alone a week!!! And I've seen a lot!!! Abysmally abysmal. All management, coaching and playing staff should hang their heads in shame. Every one of them. It's an insult to the supporters of the club for this to have played out the way it has.

And to compound it all we have players berating supporters and imbeciles spouting garbage during press releases and they expect us to believe in what they say, whilst we can see the exact opposite with our own eyes. They actually must believe we do not matter. From Believers to Doubters in a few months. It's hugely infuriating and frustrating and that's an understatement. It's going to take an awful lot to fix this mess and I don't just mean money. The entire attitude of an awful lot of people requires change for us to progress.

09 Apr 2026 13:47:18
Love how posters change their usernames just so they can change the opinion that they've been forcing on other posters all season.

Beckers, how many usernames is this now?

09 Apr 2026 14:27:52
"Our demise is massively overstated???? You are having a laugh!!!"


I'm sorry, Shankly, but that got me in the ribs, man. Lol.

As for Believers to Doubters. I think we can update that to From Believers to downright Cowerds, if you ask me.

Absolute shambles.

09 Apr 2026 14:39:22
Well said Shankly, any idea where I can get some of them tranquillisers? I reckon they should make the dross a bit more tolerable.

09 Apr 2026 15:46:32
Chewy, I propose you go for something stronger. Like a tall glass of Schnapps.

09 Apr 2026 19:12:25
Good description Oli. Shambles. How correct. Chewy send me your postcode.

09 Apr 2026 10:05:22
Hello all,

Only my opinion after a sorry night in Paris.

Slot's cuck-ish behavior towards PSG and City and his 'damage limitation' mentality has completely destroyed the spirit in the squad.

Treating PSG and City like superiors and not as equals tells you all you need to know about Slot and how far out his depth he is.

A large part of the reason we aren't good at the moment is because the players believe it too.

The mistake by the club was keeping Slot on.

A interim would've steadied the ship but fears were the interim may have exceeded expectations, therefore leaving the club with a difficult decision to make in the summer.



I personally believe we should be on the phone to Gerrard now on a short term role and have him ready at the helm for that second leg at Anfield.

There's nothing really to lose now, in fact, Anfield would be like a furnace with Stevie in the seat.

This isn't really a tactical choice now, it's gone way way past that.

It's about getting the players and fans to believe again. Anything is possible when you have heart, desire and fight.

I highly doubt this will happen sadly.

Ta.

09 Apr 2026 11:16:07
100 percent correct as usual, Carra.

09 Apr 2026 11:19:45
Slot has turned "believers" into "doubters". 9 years of rebuilding undone in less than 2 years.

09 Apr 2026 11:22:33
Cuck-ish behaviour is a perfect description. I know many will think it's harsh but this manager disgusts me, but the problem is so much bigger than just Slot now.

09 Apr 2026 12:10:18
His obsession with PSG is insane, I'd be happy if he actually tried to play like in the aggressive style they do.
Instead, more of the depressive anti football and hoping we can score from one shot all game.
Honestly, I hope everyone above Slot is also sacked at this stage. Managed to destroy one of the most passionate fantasies.

09 Apr 2026 12:14:08
Gerrard has been doing punditry quite a bit recently...more than normal....Any reasons. ??

{Ed025's Note - he might be on the bones of his arse Robby mate?.. :)

09 Apr 2026 12:17:06
It's crazy how Slot does seem obsessed with PSG's way of play and then compares it to his team's actual style of play this season.

It's like being obsessed with Megan Fox and then dating Gemma Collins.

{Ed025's Note - thats a buy one get one free JK.. :)

09 Apr 2026 12:19:32
Thanks, Carra

I know you said earlier in the season it was decided to keep Slot till the end of the season, and that reasons at the time made sense.

There is nothing that makes sense now. Gerrard should be told, regardless, he's a stop gap for the last few games, like Shearer was when Newcastle needed him to stand in.

Slot has destroyed the ethos of the club, confidence is dead. We need a strong leader to come in, as this is not going to be a quick fix.



Slot does not have a winners' mentality. All he does is think smaller teams are superior. PSG are not superior; they had better tactics and fitness. A Klopp-led team would beat this PSG team.

Kompany making Bayern look like world beaters makes it even more embarrassing.

Slot needs to be put out of his misery. His comments are shocking, and he really is just so far out of his depth, it's depressing.

{Ed025's Note - PSG are superior by miles KOTNE mate..and so are Bayern..

09 Apr 2026 12:21:56
Agree with Carra,
However, the fact that the board/directors/FSG or whoever has let this situation go on and get even more dire, doesn't give any confidence that anything will get done or that anyone in command has a frigging clue.



Starting to doubt we will get any decent manager next, let alone Xabi, who could be looking at the way the club is being run and thinking "No Gracias".

09 Apr 2026 12:34:08
How do we know an interim would have steadied the ship?

09 Apr 2026 12:44:59
Nothing worse than to have an interim turn up a 'exceed expectations' smh.

09 Apr 2026 12:52:55
I don't know, Faith, if Carrick can somehow improve Man Utd a bit, then I don't see why an interim manager couldn't do it at Liverpool. We have a superior squad than Man Utd. Or would you rather keep Slot until the end of season and risk losing what is supposed to be an easy UCL qualification for next year?

09 Apr 2026 13:22:18
Cuck-ish behaviour, indeed. The guy is obsessed with the way PSG play and yet when he meets his BFF on the pitch, he goes to "damage-limitation" mode.

09 Apr 2026 13:55:35
Mf - I'm not strong either way. But the idea that Carrick did it, so surely someone else can with us seems a bit hollow to me.

09 Apr 2026 17:11:20
Big rumour talked about, was never the result over PSG 1st leg. It's the result against Fulham that is the 1 to say adios to Slot.

09 Apr 2026 14:35:33
I disagree Ed25, PSG are not a big club, they are another city and are not superior to LFC. We have a team more than capable at beating PSG and Bayern.

Michael Carrick is doing a better job than Slot with a worse team. Slot is making us look SH*TE and the players have just given up as they know he's going to go.

Whole thing is a joke.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid you are deluded KOTN, those two you mention are light years ahead of Liverpool mate,you can bury your head in the sand as much as you like but sometimes you just have to tell the truth..

09 Apr 2026 09:10:52
Morning Edds Reds. And Edd 25 ?

What are the main differences in the New Rules next season and will it make much difference?

Will the Toffees close the gap on us Edd25?

{Ed025's Note - its possible but unlikely Chrisy..for both questions mate..

09 Apr 2026 12:04:33
What new rules are those Chrisy / Ed?

All managers to coach their teams to 65% of their fitness potential?
Players to play it about at the back countless times & go absolutely nowhere?
Players giving up after 20 minutes?
Teams to switch off after 80 minute whilst leading?
Just using a basic squad of 13/14 players every game?

I'd say they've all caught up

{Ed025's Note - sounds like they doing all thats asked of them BR.. :)

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09 Apr 2026 12:46:10
Still got time to reach top of the league.

09 Apr 2026 13:37:06
Mad, 04/05 is highest when that's the season we finished 5th and won the Champions League!

09 Apr 2026 10:21:10
At this moment it doesn't matter what formation Slot plays, the rot has well n truly set in. I wanted him gone in November, but the fanbase still believed in him, but now I think 90% don't. But I'm on the fence about him leaving now; who would we get n who would take it this season? Steven Gerrard is the obvious choice but would he take on the burden of tryin to sort this team out, with there being only 7 league games left when the players look shell shocked, unfit, no confidence.

Say if he does great n we then get say Alonso, don't think he'd be too happy would he.

09 Apr 2026 10:41:09
SG would join on the understanding of being interim. It seems very clear Alonso is the primary choice.
My opinion, but I also think SG likely knows this and would just be honoured to manage the team for a handful of games to say he's done it.

There'd be no pressure on SG, more just a hope that he could revitalise the squad and nab 5th spot.

{Ed025's Note - there is no reason why he cant come in as interim Stuie with the promise of being an assistant to Alonso when he comes in mate..

09 Apr 2026 10:43:26
All an interim manager would be tasked to do is give the team a good kick up the @rse and get them playing for the shirt again. It's clear the players have given up on Slot and the performances show that.

New manager bounce for the remaining games is exactly what's needed. Then get a perm manager in the summer who's going to sort out the rubbish tactics and dreadful fitness levels.

09 Apr 2026 10:45:17
We can’t do any worse than what we’ve got now, Strom, if we get in an interim?

The damage being done to the team or squad atm is quite staggering, and being a top club means being totally ruthless.



If that means Gerrard to see if he can get us over the line this season, and the club are set on someone else as permanent next season, so be it.

Look what Roy's doing at Ashton Gate. ?

Never too late mate!

09 Apr 2026 11:34:39
Thing is Ed25 XA may not want Stevie breathing down his neck. Reminds me of Evens GH. Could be house built on sand.

I've read somewhere that Gerard will have big tax implications if he takes a job this season.

Could do it for Free? Not sure HMRC Will agree though. They do like to put their nose in.

{Ed025's Note - i was just speculating Chrisy mate..

09 Apr 2026 11:35:02
I did think that myself Ed but I believe Alonso has a team already? Personally, I think if SG came in, got 5th place secured then handed off to his old mate Xabi, that'd be a good thing for everyone

{Ed025's Note - works for me Stuie, the main thing is that something should be done mate, it cant carry on as it is..

09 Apr 2026 13:26:19
Stuie_boy, your scenario would only make sense if SG is well and truly only interested in just coming in to steady the ship. Leave the job to Alonso or whoever and keep it moving.

The issue here is that large chunks of fans would be calling for his retention as many of them have dreamed of SG managing the club.

Should that happen, then what do you do, then? I don't want him anywhere near the job on a permanent basis, mind you.

09 Apr 2026 13:28:27
Just a bit of fun as I looked at the number to see if there was a back-up for what we feel.

This new manager bounce thing, is it fact or feeling? Excluding caretakers, the new managers this season:

Nuno to Ange to Dyche
Potter to Nuno
Pereira to Rob Edwards
Maresca to Rosenior
Amorim to Carrick
Frank to Tudor

How long is the bounce? Is 5 games fair?
Their combined avg PPG is 1.

Take out Ange and Tudor, as their records were horrendous, and the PPG rises to 1.32.

Our current PPG is 1.59.

For those new managers, their combined avg PPG for their time in charge is 1.09.

Take out Ange and Tudor and that rises up to 1.21.

Ours is 1.58.

Is the new manager bounce a myth then? On average the PPG earned with a new manager isn't ground breaking. On the surface, anyways.

What about the difference in PPG between the new interim manager and the sacked manager.



Amorim 1.55 (20 games)
Carrick 1.89 (9)
+0.34

Enzo Maresca 1.58 (19)
Rosenior 1.40 (10)
-0.18

Vitor Pereira 0.20
Rob Edwards 0.88
+0.68

Frank 1.12
Tudor 0.20
-0.92

Potter 0.60
Nuno 1.17
+0.57

Nuno 1.33 (3)
Ange 0.20 (5)
-1.13

Ange 0.20
Dyche 1.12
+0.92

Average PPG diff = +0.04 PPG

The new manager bounce is marginal based on the numbers.

Carrick is the obvious standout, 1.89 PPG since taking over and 2 PPG in his first 5 games for a proper bounce. But the rest are just average and run contrary to the idea of a new manager bounce.

Is it worth the gamble? Well, I think that comes down to what you feel will bring more hope as opposed to what will actually increase the chances of getting the outcome we want.

So is it worth it? In the current climate around the fans, it probably is.