Liverpool banter 8

05 Dec 2025 07:31:20
If we do win tomorrow evening the board will look at it as 7 points from 9.That will be enough to keep Slot in the job longer in their eyes I would think.

05 Dec 2025 07:20:36
I just saw a clip of an interview by Piers Morgan of Alex Ferguson asking "Name the 5 greatest clubs of English Football".

Surprisingly, he named Liverpool as number 1 and ManU as number 2 (Arsenal as number 3). The surprise being I thought he would name ManU first. I guess old age does settle your mind in terms of reality. ?

Now someone should show that clip to Slot. So that he understands, if he hasn't already, the great responsibility and big burden he took on when leading the club. Because for now he's at the helm of, and leading a, collapse (harsh, but that's what it is for me) .

Hat's off to SAF.

05 Dec 2025 07:52:23
In fairness ArAy he always had massive respect for Liverpool.

05 Dec 2025 07:10:00
Right now lad's every team in the league well apart from that embarrassing WHU team must fancy their chances against us. Now that's very scary.

05 Dec 2025 08:40:02
It's so strange feeling a huge sense of relief, after a win, nowadays. Against anybody. The feeling used to be "will we win the title or end up 2nd again"?

05 Dec 2025 08:26:18
We are the soggy and sticky fluffy toy at the moment, and the rest of the Premier League are the horny dog.

05 Dec 2025 06:48:01
Is Jarrod Bowen not the perfect solution for right wing?

I’m not convinced by Semenyo, but Bowen has consistently produced for several seasons, always puts in a shift and helps out his teammates.

Won’t be cheap but neither is Semenyo.

Guehi, Bowen and a DM (Ederson? ) would lift us

I’d fund some of that with Salah if the Saudis come knocking and Endo (little point in having him if he’s not even in contention)

05 Dec 2025 07:07:50
Absolutely not PR.

05 Dec 2025 07:20:27
Funding for the required tweaks in Jan could also be from Alex Mac?

Appreciate it’s not the best time for dealing so I’d consider getting the fresh faces in with the outgoings waiting until Summer26 if required.

I’ve previously defended Macca but this side urgently needs some legs and steel, we’ve enough tidy midfield players.

05 Dec 2025 07:25:47
I think the shop sailed for Bowen about 5nyeara ago. He'll be turning 29 in a few day's time so will need replacing himself in about two years. We might as well go for the younger Semenyo who is entering his peak years for more sustainability, especially since like you mentioned neither would come cheap.

05 Dec 2025 07:33:27
I would personally take Semenyo over Bowen, he offers more in his all round game and the release clause is a bonus. Younger than Bowen as well with further room for improvment.

05 Dec 2025 08:19:41
I wouldn't want either to be honest.

05 Dec 2025 09:22:01
Semenyo over Bowen because Bowen is approaching 30 if I’m not mistaken and Semenyo will get better Bowen won’t (great player all the same)
I’d say Joe is the time to booster the squad, sacrifice this season it’s a rubbish show anyway and get the defense minded players in that we need.

05 Dec 2025 09:33:27
No chance will Danny let him leave West Ham ?.

04 Dec 2025 23:04:31
Far too much negativity, we have been on a horrendous run and things have most definitely not gone to plan. We all know this, yet I've seen a couple of things over the past 2 games. That show just glimpses of improvement.

A win, clean sheet, coming back from a goal down to not lose, Wirtz getting better. All positives imo.

Don't give me "we only beat West Ham, anyone can bollocks". You have to still turn up and do you job, no game is a given. Plus the way we where playing prior, people wouldn't of been surprised if we got beat by them.

Sunderland have been a very good team so far this season. They came with a plan and executed it almost perfectly. We are a team woefully short on confidence and form, we were never going to blow them away. So to even get a point from a losing position in a game, especially the 1st half we were poor in. Can only help a little with confidence.

Am I happy with things as they currently are? No but if those small steps continue and we keep picking up points even when being poor, we will soon be in a better position both form and confidence wise.

Do I think that Slot is the right man to get us through it? The club seem to think so and that is good enough for me.

04 Dec 2025 23:30:58
Well said.

04 Dec 2025 23:37:34
I don’t ever remember falling asleep watching us play until slot came along. Sack him or not the football is crap. It has been on the wane since he came we are reaping what he has sewn, current situation is not because isak had no pre season or players are out of form or settling in.

04 Dec 2025 23:42:05
I'm struggling to see any positivity at all after 9 defeats in our last 15 games in all competitions. Other than some individual skill like Wirtz against Sunderland I have no idea how this Liverpool team scores a goal.

04 Dec 2025 23:42:24
Na.
Liverpool are loitering around in 9th after winning the league and despite having the names “Wirtz”, “Salah”, and “Isak” in their ranks - our performances and results have been unacceptable.
Though the new CL format forgives poor performances to a large extent, from a trophy-winning perspective our season is close to being wrecked and we’re only a 1/ 3rd of the way through it.


The club have been wrong many times in the past, and I suspect they might be wrong giving Slot more time when he should have been sacked after the Brentford game.

05 Dec 2025 00:03:55
Well we're certainly going to get an opportunity to show improvement in Leeds at the weekend. After stuffing the Chelsea turkey they'll be right up for second helpings.

05 Dec 2025 03:12:49
Fields, good points but I would say why did it ever get this bad in the first place? He came in last season and didn't really miss a beat. We were happy and seemed to go seamlessly from one manager to the next and not be like United.

But this season it's a totally different approach and clearly not working and we're all baffled as to the whys. We were title favourites coming into the season now we're worried about playing relegation candidates this weekend.

05 Dec 2025 03:14:47
The fields, not even you can be this deluded. A positive spin on drawing to Sunderland at home when we are league champions and got outplayed - again? I’m a positive person but I can’t even find the positives or “improvements” you’re talking about.

I know your ITK apparently and have preached about Slot being safe etc but it’s time to take your head out the ground and see what’s going on. I was pro slot until this week, now it’s time for a change that can be the only positive in this situation.

05 Dec 2025 03:23:57
Slot will be gone if Leeds beat us.

05 Dec 2025 04:46:05
While I’m not going to disagree with anything you said fields, the tempo of our play is far too slow. Slot complains of low blocks but the pace we play at gives teams ample time to get back and set there block, and have a cup of tea.


We need to play fast pass and move football to stretch defences and catch the opposition out of position.
And have a manager with a little more commitment it seems.

05 Dec 2025 06:05:32
Great comments, OP, to counterargue the hysterical ones - I'm with you. I would add that sacking Slot is not only bad strategy management it will not solve the fundamental problem and possibly even send us down a ManU-Chelsea-style slippery slope of mid-long term instability. In fact if he gets sacked mid-season, I'll eat my hat, and my membership.

05 Dec 2025 06:25:31
Nonsense, delvecs - Comparing us to Man Utd and Chelsea, whose respective situations have causes far deeper than regular changes of manager, is absolutely absurd.
Moreover, not one contributor in this thread is even approaching hysteria. On the contrary, each reply is well thought out.

05 Dec 2025 06:30:53
I would agree with u fields as regards the wh match, we beat what was in front of us comfortably and didnt. give them a sniff. not our problem how they played, they got a point at ot last nite so they not completely downed tools.
I would disagree with u on the Sunderland match, not the result but the performance.

I expected us to come out flying 1st 10-15mins try and get early goal and build on momentum from wh game, but we came out at little more than walking pace and straight away gave them the momentum and sucked the life out of the crowd. I v disappointed in that and really we only looked awake last 15mins when we went behind.

05 Dec 2025 06:31:51
Somebody maybe getting a custom polo neck from Dicky for Christmas, Thefields.

It’s utterly lifeless. Performances are getting worse week by week. I’m looking for a glimmer of hope and all I have is the transfer window opens in a few weeks - which is a ridiculous state of affairs.

After West Ham, we are the easiest team to play against in the Premier League. Perhaps we laughed too hard at Man Utd over the last couple of years and this is our comeuppance for that.

05 Dec 2025 07:28:12
Thefields I will give you “we only beat West Ham rubbish” they are a poor side and in a relegation battle and I expect the champions to beat them. Conversely don’t give me “Sunderland have been great” rubbish. It’s fine for you to say one thing in one breath about a teams credentials but not in the other. Liverpool should be beating them… end of.

Slot will be gone one way or another, why hasn’t he gone yet? Not trigger happy, interim not lined up, replacement not ready? Either way he will be gone at some point, so avoid this “if it’s good enough for the club it’s good enough for me” rubbish. Your virtue signalling is laughable. We’re awful and Slot needs to take accountability.

05 Dec 2025 07:33:04
If your tactics consistently mean you have to put 6 forwards on and play 8 players up front most games then maybe your tactics need changing.

05 Dec 2025 07:37:51
The problem as I see it is there is a way to play against us that Slot hasn't found an answer for. We have beaten teams recently that have played into pur hands. Add to that the confidence issues you mentioned and we don't often look like scoring let alone winning.
Can Slot adjust and fire these players up, i hope so but don't see anything to suggest it's going to happen.


I often go back to the the first half an hour against Athletico Madrid for how I think we should be playing, compare it to the Sinderland game and it's like chalk and cheese.

05 Dec 2025 08:30:22
Lowe1FC - no comparison made at all. A point was being made about hair-trigger culture of sacking managers, that is all. Furthermore, no comment was being made about anyone's hysteria on this thread. On other threads however it's clearly open for debate. Read carefully.

05 Dec 2025 11:00:15
Ive been watching LFC for nearly 60 years. i've never wanted a manager sacked, came close with Hodgson, i've never booed a player in our shirt. What has gone wrong this season? a mixture of things for me. Just too much change all at once. In my humble opinion, some of the signings were wrong, or they have been played in the wrong way. Kerkez, left back of the season last season, great athlete, good left foot, fast and physical. So why play him inverting, holding back etc? one example. I do honestly think some of the signings were not Slots choice.

But, he is Head Coach not the manager, so to some degree others will say who we sign, and its upto to the Head Coach to get the best out of them. Gravenberch, sensation last season, this season moved further forward, not protecting the CBs the same, two forward thinking backs on the left and right, and you move your 6 further forward? you are asking for trouble. Things need to change, put the players where they belong, play to their strengths, up the training and get the players where they should be, top of the league. YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 21:52:17
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, West Ham United v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

04 Dec 2025 22:12:09
Good read as always, Slot seems to be quite happy waiting for the sack, which can't come soon enough. For all the managers faults the disrespect he shows Chiesa and Endo infuriates me.

04 Dec 2025 22:14:28
Agree with you, Ed. The perf. was just "meh" and rather than for us to up the tempo, we just played to their level. I think Slot was just happy with the 3 points esp. having experienced the two battereing vs PSV and Forrest before hand.

As for WH and effort, have you seen their game vs Utd that just ended? Had they shown anywhere near as much industry and determination against us esp. with the wretched way Slot has the team playing, not sure we would have beaten them.

04 Dec 2025 23:27:56
AAR91, he doesn't disrespect Chiesa and Endo. They are just not good enough to be regular starters. And it's not just Slot. If he gets sacked and a new manager comes in, one of the first things he will do is sell Chiesa and Endo in the first available window.

04 Dec 2025 23:31:09
To be fair @Oli, I see the WHU comparison slightly differently. At the outset I would say we have ranged between very poor and average most of the time this season but ….

Given West Ham came away from the United game with a point it could be that even though we are nowhere near our best we actually did a reasonable job in stoping them playing, something United couldn’t quite manage. Similarly with Sunderland, they are this year’s surprise package and, whilst we were poor overall, particularly in the first half, having watched the game again, Sunderland were reduced to just hoofing the ball as far as they could at times in the last 10 minutes. Of course we should have done better but we did have them under pressure towards the end.

I suspect if we had won a couple more games or drawn a couple of the losses there might have been a slightly different perspective to our last two results.

For mr, we are a long way from where I’d like us to be but at least I’m starting to signs that a team is emerging. I don’t think Slot is the managerial answer and I’d be relieved to see him go but I do believe that there is an awful lot of talent and potential in the squad.

On a specific note, Konate has had his two best games of the season since Joey G has been picked at right back. Joe is an out got Konate to release the ball which has settled his nervousness no end and, if it carries on he might start playing better on a regular basis.

Apologies all if I’m sounding optimistic ?.

05 Dec 2025 01:24:23
Ed, great write up as usual, but do you not think the Van Dijk passing sideways is what Slot wants him to do or us it something else?

{Ed001's Note - it is instructions, but that doesn't mean I like it.}

05 Dec 2025 03:14:25
AAR91 your comment made me laugh but it's hard to come to any other conclusion.

05 Dec 2025 03:19:17
West Ham were unbeaten in 3 before playing us including drawing w Bournemouth and beating Newcastle. So going there and winning as comfortably as we did we have to be happy with. We've been here a couple of times this season tho and just as the hope sets in Slot reverts to type.

05 Dec 2025 09:21:35
We caught West Ham at a bad time for them with the news of one of their heros had passed away ( rest in peace Bonzo) Billy Bonds.
So taking something out of that game well we as a club ķnow all about loosing people.
The performance was not great but we managed two goals and we were equally as poor v Sunderland so to say it is improvement is a glass half full in my opinion we are not improving we are in decline and it was very obvious at the last several games of last season even though we won the league . I think this is when Arne started to try develop this style of play and it did not work straight from the get go and has not worked since.


If anyone old enough to remember Paisley switching to 3 center backs if i remember rightly we played Ipswich who were a very good side and we lost 1-0 after the game Bob was asked about the change in system and he replied we tried it and it did not work so we will put it away for another day. He new it would not work went back to 442 and we went on to win the league again. So Arne take note of one of the best ever managers in English and European football and learn from the best and dump this useless system before it dumps you . YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 19:45:52
Quick clarification for Ed025: I do not endorse the manager of IKEA Warrington for the Liverpool job. I don't even park on the same side of the car park as him.

I’m sure he’s a lovely man with a powerful lanyard, but let’s keep our standards a little higher than Aisle 14, Bin 7. I have bitterly observed this man’s flaccid interpretation of the role and leave a (limited) list of transgressions below:

1) Stores Allen keys in a jam jar like they’re cutlery.

2) Calls anti-tip brackets “optional. ”

3) Stacks LACK like it’s hardwood, then blames the floor when it bows.

4) Says “that’s a stock issue” about problems that are clearly coaching.

Yes, I’m ferociously jealous of his staff discount and unlimited yellow pencils. That’s not the point.

A Saturday on the returns desk is not the same as managing a back line under pressure. I wish Warrington’s finest nothing but neat shelves and calm fire exits - just not at any cost, and certainly not in our dugout.

Distance considerably kept.

{Ed025's Note - great feedback FORNAX..cheers mate.. :)

04 Dec 2025 20:01:09
FORNAX - Thanks, that's just what I needed, but what is your solution to Arne's Slop? Is he a Tedd Lasso / B-rod hybrid? Does he enjoy Lidl battenberg with his orangeboom or is he more of a Bratwurst man?

How do we navigate the choppy waters of Dirge-ball back to something more comforting?

04 Dec 2025 19:36:34
Fornax. Your very funny. An absolute lunatic, but very very funny.

04 Dec 2025 20:36:44
Rojack - he’s a rookworst man.

On the football, Slot is getting flak today because he did the dull, necessary part: make the back sensible, then build the front. The first half could have been any number from last year. Give them the harmless spaces, read the patterns, then turn the screw after the break. We did turn it, we just didn’t score during that 15–20 minute spell when the game was there for us.

On the football, the first thing to fix is upstairs. We’ve lost a chunk of resilience this season. I still think the Jota tragedy shook the group more than most want to admit. You don’t have to agree, but it fits with how we react to setbacks. Last night we wobbled and then steadied, which is a small step but a step all the same.

The attack still looks like new colleagues learning each other. That needs time and repetition. Whether we like it or not, this team is on a journey, with or without Slot.

If there’s one simple target, it’s to stop giving away the first goal. Do that and half of the noise disappears. From “dirge” back to comfort isn’t magic. Keep the shape sensible, let the connections settle and then take more risks in the final third.

04 Dec 2025 21:22:06
FORNAX - Thanks again, that was comforting like hearing Yoda speak.

I accept that the loss of Jota has left a cloud over the club, especially his compadres, but we looked poor before that.

Slot has one vision, which is currently like a saturday night out in Rotherham with.3 sheckles in the pocket.

His style of play is a like a rich tea that has been dunked in tetleys for half an hour - Limp like Pele's spam javelin before he discovered viagra.

This is a crisis.

04 Dec 2025 21:26:39
But seriously - I miss the passion, don’t feel connected with this team, it’s all so laboured and boring. There’s no emotions.

04 Dec 2025 22:17:18
Your last comment is spot on, Rojack. Hence, why I've checked out for this season after last night's snooze fest.

The football, system distinct and lack of effort from the manager on down is killing all the excitement I used to have before we play. Emotionally, I feel near nothing right now.

04 Dec 2025 22:31:53
I do prefer Klopp's style personally, I was very uncomfortable with Slot in the beginning. To that extent I agree about missing the visible passion, effort etc., but I just can't accept the view that last year was all about Klopp.

I'm not accusing you of that, but its becoming more and more of a common view. I want to push back, as I've really enjoyed returning to using this forum but it is slowly becoming more and more toxic on here.

There's more than one way to win, and I do not want to allow my personal preferences on style to get in the way of success for the club. We won the Premier League last season and it was comfortable. We certainly had wobbly moments last season, but it was never sustained. This style can achieve success, there is recent evidence of it.

There are valid criticisms of Slot, and some do make an appearance here. He could definitely be to blame for the drop in mentality, but I think there are other factors at play as well. It's not likely to be one cause.

I want the club to give him some more time and enter the market in January as there are obvious deficiencies in the squad, but we are very much in the middle of a complete squad rebuild. Guehi and Semenyo, plus a surprise CM please.

The only one I'd swap for at this stage is Alonso, but that's largely down to the fact it's who I wanted in the first place!

05 Dec 2025 00:07:31
Sorry fornax but how often do we hear about a team performing better than the sum of its parts, we have off the top of my head 6 international captains in the squad, best keeper in the world, Whirtz and izak

It's nowhere near good enough this turgid dross slott is serving up.

05 Dec 2025 00:11:30
Very valid Fornax. Agree completely.

There is too much negativity and over enthusiastic praise for Klopp and his heavy metal passion.

If there was one thing we wantef Klopp to change was his antics near touchline berating officials for every decision not in our favour.

Many put that down to passion but it was always over the top.

Even Ed02 used to make his feelings clear many a time herr as the game was being watched by so. many children - live and on tv.


I really liked Slot last year as he seemed to be composed and very intelligent.

Now he is doing the same thing that Klopp used to do from touchline.

Seems to. me the pressure has got to him of replicating success of last year and integrating half the squad with new faces who have hardly set fire.

Those clamouring for heavy metal will complain again of the same defensive issues once it starts to fail big time.

Dont know. if Alonso is the answer either.

05 Dec 2025 03:29:10
FORNAX, I enjoy your take (the on meds variation ??) but I'm not sure what Slot's style is that you are seeing. I agree the take on here can be negative and luckily we have some positive posters on here to balance out the likes of me ??.

We are not going to see the best of the likes of Isak if we don't play to his strengths. We all know what he's capable of but Slot has managed to neuter him as well as others.

04 Dec 2025 18:23:37
Unai emery.

04 Dec 2025 18:28:06
Sam Allardyce.

04 Dec 2025 18:40:48
Big Sam and Little Sam double act.

04 Dec 2025 18:44:10
Sid James.

04 Dec 2025 18:32:51
He's doing a great job at Villa Terry. Ironically we are the only team to beat them in their last 9 matches all the others being wins. I fancy them at home to Arsenal this weekend. Win that and they are only 3 back. Let's hope they get the win.

04 Dec 2025 18:35:29
Selena Gomez.

04 Dec 2025 18:54:30
No Rome1977 that'd be a right carry on.

04 Dec 2025 18:55:05
Well Rome that's a top shout. Looking at the list of Carry on Films, I think Slot's would be "Carry on Regardless" while he's got us all watching "Carry on Screaming! " ?.

{Ed025's Note - what about "carry on Dick".. :)

04 Dec 2025 19:02:07
??? Ed. I missed that one! Carry on Abroad!

04 Dec 2025 19:17:56
Carry on Plodding.

04 Dec 2025 19:20:27
Lad's it has to be Carry On Screaming ?.

{Ed025's Note - nice one Bazza..

04 Dec 2025 19:33:57
Carry on (falling) behind.

04 Dec 2025 19:47:13
Michael Scott.

04 Dec 2025 19:57:29
Love it boys!

Regards to Villa beating Arsenal, I hope not. Coming from where I do I hate Villa.

04 Dec 2025 20:01:26
Edwina Curry.

04 Dec 2025 20:05:18
Slot could be doing that famous line from Carry On Cleo" Infamy, Infamy they all have it in for me".

04 Dec 2025 21:01:30
EDWINA CURRY! ??? IIII???? LOL ROJACK!

04 Dec 2025 22:18:18
Carry On Behind, Slot. You're doing an awesome job.

05 Dec 2025 02:24:39
Good process lads! ??.

05 Dec 2025 04:23:16
Alburquerque.

05 Dec 2025 19:47:00
Carry on up the khyber pass.

04 Dec 2025 18:15:11
Sunderland manager - we were surprised we had so much time and space to play.

If that's not an embarrassment for these players I don't know what is .

Stuck that comment on the dressing room wall make them read it every game.

04 Dec 2025 18:19:33
I’m not sure it would bother slot though.

04 Dec 2025 18:19:38
From watching the game it looks like that's how the team was set up to play.

04 Dec 2025 18:23:36
I missed the match last night but watched the first half today. The players must be able to feel the frustrated energy of the crowd.

Watching the big Sunderland number 5 get the ball in his own half and run unchallenged to the corner of our box is unbelievable. It's happening a lot this season.

This was supposed to be a run of "winnable" games but so far 1W 1D 2L by an aggregate score of 4-8.

Not looking forward to Saturday I think Leeds will want it a lot more than us. I don't recall looking at upcoming games and wondering where the next win comes from. Maybe Wolves at home. Not felt this negative since pre-Klopp days.

04 Dec 2025 18:28:27
Whats more embarrasing is Slot coming out saying teams are not fearing us at Anfield anymore. that's not good enough. Anfield should be a fortress! I still hope Slot sorts this out but time is running out.

04 Dec 2025 18:37:19
Have to say tho I don't recall seeing a team spend so much time on the ground. Watched the last two Sunderland matches so clearly it's coached into them to waste as much time as possible.

04 Dec 2025 18:44:00
kss it's quite the fall from grace. He doesn't seem to be getting the memos. It's maddeningly baffling. I think we need more shadow boxing and rugby passing with the football in training. Clearly not doing enough of either.

04 Dec 2025 20:38:03
That comment from the Sunderland manager is so accurate and cutting it should be enough to send Slot packing. Sunderland a newly promoted side played out from the back from minute one with the freedom of Anfield, that first half was honestly one of the worse half’s of football we have ever played! I can almost understand a mistimed press or a team playing through you with good play but to just allow them stroll out from the back and pop the ball about while we passively ran around was embarrassing truely embarrassing.

This wasn’t an effort or fitness issue this was tactics!

04 Dec 2025 22:21:11
Downey, do you know that the Sunderland manager is about the 3rd manager (Maresca and on other one) in addition to Utd and Forrest players who have come out with the same type of comments after playing us this season? Essentially, calling us soft? Trust me, there will be more. Embarrassing.

04 Dec 2025 18:06:13
It’s been a miserable few weeks being an LFC fan, i fully understand the club execs wanting to give Arne time to coach out of this mess. The problems though are growing each week which suggests either the tactics are terrible and won’t work, or the players are not being coached correctly in terms of what they are meant to be doing.

Confidence is through the floor and we are making so many mistakes leading to goals it’s unbelievable.

With the players slot has it really is mind blowing why we are seeing this kind of form.

So my take on it is, the tactics clearly are not suited to the players nor the league, if Slot can’t see that or is choosing not to that is clearly weak management. He should be very much involved with the training and tactics with the players. We can’t blame the new assistant etc as he shouldn’t be left to oversea everything when slot is the head coach.

As for the execs, I fully understand that slot was their man, but sometimes you have to be strong and realise you have made a mistake. At the very least they should be looking into the coaching, speaking to the players etc to find out what the issues are and either having slot address them or replace him. Maybe as some have stated they are waiting to see what happens with Alonso at Madrid or the Bournemouth manager who’s in the final year of his contract, but risking champions league qualification in the process seems like a very big risk, while we have the squad to compete for the titles, we don’t have a manager with either the hunger to be a mutiple winner or desire to change, the execs need to be strong and while showing resilience to sack I guess in some eyes shows this, to me it shows they are not ruthless enough to succeed. We need ruthless leaders were second is not good enough and a manager who has the burning desire to keep winning, not allow arrogance to settle in as he won the league in his first season. Either way it’s going to be an interesting few weeks, the run up to Xmas is going to be painful bet let’s hope one way or another someone has the brass to make a decision and make the right decision on how things need to change soon.

04 Dec 2025 18:31:29
We all know what it's like having a good boss and a bad one. The players are professional athletes but if they don't believe in what they are being tasked to do then they are simply not going to perform to the levels that they are capable of. Human nature and not a function at all of how much money they make. Belief is belief and confidence is everything in life. Clearly they are low on both.

As for Slot's ongoing tenure, I think a top 4 finish and a run in the CL have to be the priorities to pay the bills. Once that is looking in peril (already is for most of us on here) then I think the hammer falls. My guess would be lose Saturday with no progress in the performance and it's over for Slot.

04 Dec 2025 22:22:54
Outstanding post, @Flyer. Fully agree with everything you've said.

05 Dec 2025 02:25:43
Cheers Ol. I try! ?.

04 Dec 2025 16:44:21
Diogo would have been 29 today. A tragic loss and thoughts are clearly with everyone that was close to him including family and friends. A time for reflection. Forever our Number 20. RIP Diogo. YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 15:54:29
Watching a bit of leeds and Chelsea last night and if we go there with the same game plan I can see a bit of a hiding coming our way - and Chelsea were in decent form!

04 Dec 2025 22:25:02
I think that huge effort vs Arsenal playing with 10 men took it's toll on them mentally. As for us, we will get embarrassed if we approach them with the same attitude and tactics we have been playing.

In fact, had it not been the dexterity from Chiesa, Sunderland would have already done the job.