Liverpool banter 5

18 Oct 2026 08:52:06
Ed01, here are a few observations from yesterday's game.

First of all, it was a great result. We have not always done well away at Brentford, and given their recent form, three points there is a very good return.

I won't say much about Wirtz. My fanboy bias is well known, and enough has already been said about him. Good game or bad, the lad never stops trying, and that is all I will add.

Ronald Araujo has been a strong addition to the defensive setup, but he is holding back our attacking play down the right. His crossing is not great, and there is very little offensive supply coming from that side at the moment in my opinion. Gomez is probably a better option there but his fitness won't allow it which is why Iraola is probably refraining from using him there.

The other thing that stood out was how many players were holding onto the ball for far too long instead of passing. Munoz and Rio both had a very good impact, but even for Munoz's goal, the sensible option was probably to play it to Macca, as the chances had dried up by that point. Rio rarely plays a pass either. It all worked out yesterday, but it will not always. Barcola was guilty of the same thing and squandered a lot of chances. The one positive was that he did pass to Koumas in the final attack. It was the wrong decision at that moment, but it at least showed he wanted the other man to score, even if it came far too late in the game. Koumas also failed to pass on a couple of occasions when it was the obvious choice, and doing so would probably have made a difference.

I am sure this will improve with time, but it was noticeable.

Isak did exactly what we hoped he would, so any complaint about him would sound foolish. That said, when Ekitike is fit again, could he rotate with Isak up top? His hold-up and link-up play may be slightly better than Isak's, provided he learns how to press. He has the skills and the pace, and if the attitude is right I think it could work well. It would also give Isak the chance to get fitter and sharper in his overall play.

What do you think?

{Ed001's Note - I can't say anything yet as I wasn't able to watch the game, I had family stuff to do. I will have to watch the game during the week.}

18 Oct 2026 09:54:02
With Wirtz, I think Iraola needs to put the hammer down and get the message to the team - feed Wirtz the ball.

The CMs dictate way too much if the play and swinging the ball around imo. Whilst there is a place for that, I think once we're settled in the attacking third, that they should be prioritizing getting the ball to Wirtz and playing off of him.

So many times he gets the ball, passes to someone, he should get the ball right back. Instead the ball goes to a CM then goes to the others side of the pitch. Then Wirtz is head down then motors over to the other side of the pitch.

He's running so many miles because he keeps running back and forth across the pitch to get the ball hahahaha

Just feed him, feed him, feed him. Prioritizing him as the attacking fulcrum and that will also help boost his confidence and feeling of importance on the pitch

Since arrival it looks like he is playing to prove he belongs. We need to make him belong and we will do that by giving him that focus and priority.

18 Oct 2026 11:14:10
Just wait for the match review LFCDas. That'll give you all the info you need.

18 Oct 2026 13:28:26
Gets plenty of ball Faith. Done well yesterday and midweek. But whether he does well or bad is on him the other players need to stop being blamed.

18 Oct 2026 09:53:28
Did we win because you didn't watch it Ed001 ;)

{Ed001's Note - that's what worries me!

18 Oct 2026 14:18:57
Perhaps the team having now played 8 or 10 games are starting to understand what their team mates are going to do?

Wirtz's match stats for chances set up against a solid, top half unbeaten PL team this season were astonishing - the most in a game since Mane about 7 or 8 years ago. Suggests to me that the more chances we make the more we'll take as Barcola, Munoz Rio, Wirtz, Isak, Gakpo and Ekitike get to know each others roles and the way the coach wants them to play.

18 Oct 2026 22:42:05
Florian - you're missing my point and I'm not blaming anyone. Go back and watch the game and specifically just watch Wirtz. I counted at least 10 times where he is right there and available for a pass but whoever has it opts for a sideways pass.

To my overall point, it's about getting his integrated as a key part of the team and actually playing to him. there is talk in thread above about playing to Isak's strengths. Well, we'll unlock that if we play to Wirtz's strengths and get him on the ball early and often.

19 Oct 2026 10:42:55
Good points there, Faith esp. your last point re: Isak and Wirtz.

As for Wirtz, he has played a lot better in the last 2 games because he seems to be getting a bit more decisive in his runs and decision-making. These are the things he needs to be doing because those are the things he can control.

Also as WDW, it is a bit of the understanding and relationships that are beginning to brew within the team that guys seem to know where to be so he can find them. Not a stats guy per se but the stats from Flo in that Brentford game were absolutely mad.

I agree, a lot more needs to be done and come from him but he can take heart in the last games and keep believing in himself. Again, the talent and ability just oozes from this kid when you just focus on him on the ball.

18 Oct 2026 08:09:57
There appears to be more dissatisfaction after a hard earned win yesterday. We’re obviously not perfect at the moment, but I’m going to do something controversial and just focus on some positives:

We beat Brentford who were undefeated this season, and hasn’t lost at home in the last 10 months.

Isak has 5 prem goals in 6 appearances this season

Since the start of last season, Only Cherki has more open play assists than Florian Wirtz who has 11.

Andoni who is having to learn to manage workload with many more fixtures has managed to win his first 2 champs league games, and rotate the team.

Youth are getting an opportunity in Koumas, Rio and Trey, and they’re all paying it back quite nicely.

Rio in particular is starting to look way more effective than he ever has before.

Araujo has been really good and was someone who was met with a lot of scrutiny on these pages when signed.

Jacquet looks incredible and is only 21!

Iraola ball will take a while to fully click but is certainly starting to

Munoz is looking handy and has 2 scored 2 good and important goals for us this year.

I look forward to a doom monger coming to s*** all over this post

18 Oct 2026 08:23:53
I'll drink to that.

18 Oct 2026 08:28:54
Great post can't argue with any of that.

18 Oct 2026 08:31:37
We're picking up results whilst not playing well.
I think that's a good thing because we all know what happened last year. The players lost condition, we limped in to the champions league and we looked like we lacked direction.

Iraola didn't have most of his first team for pre-season as they were at the World Cup or resting following the World Cup.

I'd say most of our players have shown signs of improvement and our new signings look good - Jacquet, Munoz, Araujo. Barcola is still new to the squad but you can see the potential star when he settles.
In many respects this first half of the season is a fact-finding exercise for Iraola so to pick up results too is a welcome bonus.

November will tell us a lot ?.

18 Oct 2026 08:31:52
Outstanding post mate.

18 Oct 2026 08:37:23
Id go even more controversial and say Wirtz has been playing well!

{Ed025's Note - do Specsavers open on a Sunday?..

18 Oct 2026 09:03:56
Thank you for that. Some actual positivity for once. I know it is difficult but we just have to wait and let system and style sink in. And also players are getting fitter so let's see how and where we are in January.

18 Oct 2026 09:06:19
Good post full metal; I agree with all of it and I love the positivity.

However to 1988s comment on Wirtz, I was quite harsh on live chat on Wirtz because he missed a good few passes. But he did improve, his pass to Munoz was lovely for the goal too. he created a few chances to be fair to him. But at the moment the guy just gives away the ball way too easily- his miss passes or his inability to win any sort of duel make the team weaker. For me at the moment unfortunately the team is weak with him in it. I'm hoping he can turn it around but I worry.

18 Oct 2026 09:11:42
Great post. Keep the positivity coming!

18 Oct 2026 09:18:06
Honestly, I think we are improving. We started the game really well yesterday. Good control although forward areas still an issue.

We are still a little jittery when the other team gets a chance or two. Evidenced again when we went two one up and got jittery again. Need to build that mental toughness.

There's still a complete lack of what I call "go" in some of the forwards and there's still not the connections being made up top.

Pity Szobo got injured. That seemed to rock our plan.

I know it's not perfect but I too am seriously surprised to read so much criticism of a win away at Brentford.

18 Oct 2026 09:32:57
Nice one, Fullmetal!

18 Oct 2026 09:34:51
Rome was not built in one day, we are showing good signs of progress.

There will always be the haters who throw their toys out about one bad performance and demand we replace the whole squad immediately, but that has always been the case. Even in the Klopp years there were people moaning about how bad we were doing.

18 Oct 2026 10:54:26
I'm a well voiced Wirtz doubter but I thought he played well yesterday however our pressing was all over the shop and our midfield is as we all know way too soft. We were decent but the sending off of the Brentford guy helped us a lot in the second half. Regardless that's a good result against a good team. Keep her lit!

18 Oct 2026 11:16:22
Oh and hello Salah mate! Haven't heard from you in a while! Hope all is good with you and yours?!

18 Oct 2026 13:41:39
I like the the post, good stuff, mate. Keeping it positive.

Just thought I'd point out United fans would argue Fernandes is actually ahead of Wirtz with 13 open-play assists since the beginning of last season.

Opta logs an open play assist that derives from a set piece as a set piece assist. So if player A takes a free kick/corner, and it falls to player B before the ball goes out of play again, who in turn assists player C for the goal, Opta defines that as a set-piece phase goal and not open play. Just something I came across and found interesting.

18 Oct 2026 15:13:53
I'd love to see the most amount of assists Macca or Barnes got in a season for us. Weird stat for me. Plonk a corner on someone's head it's an assist. Pass a ball two yards to someone who beats three or four men and smacks one in from thirty yards it's an assist. Crazy.

18 Oct 2026 14:38:32
ED0025. No they aren't. But the pubs are! ?.

{Ed025's Note - i think you have had enough to drink with that comment 1988.. :)

19 Oct 2026 10:46:27
@Full, what is controversial about being positive? You spoke facts and focused on the positives which well within your right.

Anyone finding that controversial, is just exposing his/her/their way of thinking, imo.

As for your comments, spot on, my man. You covered everything.

We just need to keep working hard to improve and we will get there, for sure.

18 Oct 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - thefutureisoldgold3 has posted a new article entitled, Wolves Player Ratings v Burnley

17 Oct 2026 17:16:51
Great win. Congratulations to team. Iraola def got his selection wrong but the team dug deep and got a important result on the road.
Bodes well and def team showed character we expect. Still not the free flowing fast football we want but its a win i'd take with both hands
These referees decision against us needs to be really looked at.

Iraola has to start calling out referees aggressively. don't care if it results in a fine or whatever. We are drawing the short end of the stick far too many times on 50-50 and just plain wrong decisions against us.
Iraola has to be hard he needs to throw a proper fit on the touchline. He is far too mild at the moment.
It also flows into the team.

17 Oct 2026 17:23:46
Brentford finished the match with 9 men so I could understand them being unhappy with the ref, genuine question but what big decisions went against us today?

We were poor, got the 3 points but not a good performance.

17 Oct 2026 17:32:31
The general game it seems like every 50-50 post the red (which they took 20hours to give) went against us.

17 Oct 2026 18:19:22
Fair enough, agree they took an eternity with the red card which was obvious within 10 seconds but other than that I quiet liked how the ref allowed play to continue and didn't give too many cheap free kicks but it all subjective I guess.

I was more disappointed with our lack of composure and decision making to be honest. 3 points in the end I guess.

{Ed666's Note - the decision making was that of eleven Stevie Wonder’s. I must say I liked the Rio & Gomez cameos

17 Oct 2026 21:12:27
That's the best I've seen rio play ed666. Really made a difference and his final ball much better in general. Somebody on here recently had said about playing rio as a 10 or more centrally, thought it strange to put him there but he played a lot of today's game in more central positions and he looked v good.

{Ed666's Note - let’s hope it’s a platform for better things. I didn’t think he had it in him to play on the right but he did well today.

18 Oct 2026 01:58:30
I thought Rio did alright on the right. He did seem more comfortable playing there than he did earlier in the season. His tracking back and defensive work was slightly poor imo. But I did really like how willing he was to drive at defenders and constantly trying to create something.

I have a feeling too that we love him more than he loves us and he wouldn't hesitate to leave us if it means he gets a better offer to further his career elsewhere but that's nothing to be too concerned about.

18 Oct 2026 02:08:10
Brentford had two players sent off and some people think we were hard done by? Absolutely incredible.

18 Oct 2026 00:51:39
What team does Ed 666 support?

{Ed666's Note - Liverpool till I die mate..Have supported this club through thick and thin been all over the world to watch them, lost good women along the way because they didn’t appreciate my devotion to LFC but it’s my prerogative to be critical when I see absolute dross served up. Proffesional sport is about opinions and I’m happy for you that you can stomach bad performances.

18 Oct 2026 02:22:51
Before today Brentford had lost 3 home games in the league since the start of last season. Were people really expecting champagne football? Brentford is one of the hardest away games of the season.

18 Oct 2026 04:08:18
Ed0666 - I must protest.
Liverpool actually played reasonably well overall. Brentford, save for a few chances, were allowed very little, meanwhile we missed a hatful and should have won more comfortably. Even at 11-v-11, we looked the more likely scorers until Brentford actually scored.
Further, Brentford away is a game to be endured rather than enjoyed.

They've thrashed Chelsea and Spurs 3-0 there already this season, and were absolutely seeing themselves as favourites prior to the game.
We are still too open in midfield, but the performances are absolutely getting better and the players look fitter and more confident.

{Ed666's Note - I respect your protestation mate but I humbly disagree. Yes their well oiled side with a manager who’s been there a little while longer than AI. But we have 3 offensive players who cost circa £375 million pounds and our transitions, counters are like cocker spaniels trying to move a football. No menace, no cruel intentions just kick it forward and hope for the best. AI has to bang some heads together. I have no reservations about AI at all (he wasn’t my first choice admittedly) but I fear he might be too nice. Klopp would have gone apoplectic had that last counter we monumentally fluffed I hope AI isn’t a softie because we can’t keep letting that happen.

18 Oct 2026 06:46:44
Not sure which refereeing decisions went against us. Wirtz and Macallister were denied penalties as they both dived. Rio blagged a free kick and got their player sent off with another dive.


Thought we played reasonably well against a tough side and should have put it to bed in the first half. Not the greatest performance but no player let us down either and we are 3 points closer to the title.

18 Oct 2026 07:58:01
"don't care if it results in a fine"

I'd imagine Iraola might though.

Personally I thought the ref had a decent game. He could have made the decision quicker and given a yellow instead of a red then we would have had something to moan about.

Pretty sure some people just enjoy complaining.

I'd imagine if given a bag full of money some would moan the bag was too heavy.

18 Oct 2026 08:15:16
The big positive I take from ai 1st 10 games is he already has a solid back 4 sorted(when they all fit). Ron jacquet vvd kerkez give us a solid base to start from. they defend the box v well and there's a good 'guts' to them, they not afraid to put there bodies on line and if opposition want to play it physical they up for it. if u look at all brentford set pieces yesterday don't think they created a half chance even from them.

Last season we would've folded, far too soft. Keep in mind we lack a top defensive midfielder as well to offer them protection. Ron+ kerkez not the best on ball but they defend well and that's the starter for me, as team improves maybe we need better footballers in full back positions but for now they doing good job.

18 Oct 2026 07:04:22
Rio dived? You're saying he should have stayed on his feet when pushed from behind, that was a clear and obvious yellow card offense from Janelt, there could only have been one outcome when making contact after Rio got the wrong side of him twice.

Also think you are being incredibly harsh, ed666, you keep saying Barcola was terrible in the game when he was anything but terrible. Yes, he should have done better with at least one of the chances, but the first one on one with the keeper, he makes that chance entirely on his own powering through into open space, it's not like he was sent straight through on an open goal and missed a sitter. He is a chance magnet in and around the box and looks incredibly deadly on the counter attack. If he keeps putting himself in those kinds of positions, he will score lots and lots of goals. Also worth remembering he still ended up with one goal involvement, and that shot that hit the crossbar was excellent skill and improvisation, his game is not just sprinting into open space, in and around the box against a low block he has looked better than I have expected.

People slating him for the last 15 or so minutes of the game where he messed up one or two moves, it was clear that he was completely exhausted, he had his hands on his knees on the last two breakaways. This is a player who didn't have a preseason, Iraola has said that playing 90 minutes is effectively his preseason, and the fact that he can still run full speed with the ball at his feet in transition close to the 90th minute is in a way a good thing. Could he have done better? Yes. But context matters. I think Barcola played much better yesterday than he did his previous two starts in the league, for example, and I think things will only get better with him from this point onwards.

On another note, Munoz, wow, what a player, his stupid dive aside I don't think I've seen a Liverpool player with that kind of drive since Kuyt. The guy doesn't give a millimeter to the opposition on any ball and will chase every cause however lost it appears, is impossible to knock off the ball, won't be intimidated by anyone and just looks built for the physicality of the league. Great great finish on his weaker foot too.

{Ed666's Note - Barcola didn’t miss a sitter? I’m not so sure about that mate he was the text book definition of one on one with the keeper! Deadly on the counter attack? Do you know what deadly means mate? Deadly was Salah, Mane, Bobby! I concur with your point that’s he’s not match fit and said yesterday I’m not worried about him going forward but in the meantime if he’s gonna stink the place out he’s gonna have to be pulled on it.

18 Oct 2026 11:46:45
To me the definition of a sitter is somebody putting it on a plate for you right in front of goal and you missing it. Barcola made that chance all by himself, he deserves to miss it. Should he have scored? Yes, probably, and I have no doubt that he will if given chances like that in the future, though given his PSG performances we should all probably expect that his finishing will not be of the highest level when it comes to consistency. We knew what we were getting with Barcola, a chance magnet whose finishing can be erratic at times. Doesn't make him less dangerous as a player, though.

I absolutely do not agree with you that he 'stank the place out'. Maybe he didn't have as good a game as Munoz or Rio but he was constantly involved, ended the game with a goal involvement, and was in and amongst good chances, showed his skill on several occasions, tracked back decently well. I just can't abide the suggestion that he had a terrible game. He had a terrible game against City, not last night.

{Ed025's Note - "he deserves to miss it"????, i have heard everything now..

18 Oct 2026 12:07:23
I agree with 90% of what Patrick says, I promise you this, Barcola will end up a Liverpool legend and will overcome Mane's numbers for the club, bookmark this haha ?.

{Ed025's Note - hmmmm..

18 Oct 2026 12:32:45
Rushie used to say he never worried about missing chances it was when he didn't get the chances he worried. Before we signed barcola bits I sent of him, which was v little, I wasn't overly impressed but he got a hat trick in champ league and really should've had another hat trick yesterday so he progressing.

Keep getting himself into them positions and improve when he is there and we've a massive player on our hands. Don't quote know what he was doing at end of game, I put it down to fatigue as he looked goosed but he v unlucky time he hit crossbar, good composure and lovely chip.

18 Oct 2026 13:43:15
When did calling out referees ever get a manager anywhere?

18 Oct 2026 17:36:31
I'd love to see that happen ASB but I am absolutely confident that I won't.

17 Oct 2026 19:35:59
Hate to say it but Carragher is going to be proved right.
That transfer window is going to go down as a disaster. We were calling it the Kleenex window at the time but the main job of Kleenex is to wipe away a waste product and a lot of these players are turning out to be an absolute waste of money.

17 Oct 2026 19:49:42
Wow I wonder how negative you would be after a loss. AI and the team are going to need time and patience.

A win away from home against a really well drilled good Premier League team is a positive thing. Not many will take 3 points there this season.

How about picking out the positives, Munoz was great today, Wirtz actually battled hard and never gave up always making himself available. And Isak did his Haaland impression by doing next to nothing and staying alert and scoring a class winner.

We won a game enjoy it.

{Ed666's Note - So we should just accept that performance and be happy with 3 points?

17 Oct 2026 20:06:42
We were 1-0 down, deservedly so, before they had a man sent off. So we did take the points but clearly some mitigating circumstances.

17 Oct 2026 20:27:05
We played well against City up until we had a man sent off harshly. We took advantage of 10 men and had a bit of luck. Maybe that's what they call it evening itself out.

17 Oct 2026 20:36:25
We just came from behind away from home to beat an unbeaten team (who hammered Chelsea 3-0 in their last home game) and it has angered you so much that you are having a go at Wirtz who got an assist and created 9 chances in the game (the most in the PL by any player at any club since 2021) and Isak who scored the winner and has 4 goals in 6 PL games?

17 Oct 2026 20:41:18
Florian Wirtz created more chances in the 2-1 win over Brentford than any other Liverpool player in a single Premier League fixture since records began.

Wirtz's nine chances created is the most any Liverpool player has recorded in any Premier League game.

17 Oct 2026 20:42:10
But I don't think Brentford had the better chances in the first half. Instaed if Barcola takes his 1v1 or him or Szob score their shots from the edge of the box, we would have been leading. Our finishing being pathetic made it a much harder game than it was both before their first goal, and after we went 2-1 up.

17 Oct 2026 20:42:52
? some people will never be happy.

17 Oct 2026 21:04:41
Brentford were fortunate to be 1-0 up.
11 vs 11 Liverpool were still the better team.
Brentford are a good team but LFC made them look like a smash and grab team.

17 Oct 2026 21:18:15
It took henderson 3+ seasons to come good, give it a rest, 95% of this squad are going nowhere.

17 Oct 2026 21:57:33
We won away from home. I think Wirtz was MoTM. No pleasing some people.

17 Oct 2026 22:29:27
I thought we fought for that result today. Was it a great performance? No. Did we roll our sleeves up and fight the most physical team in the league. Absolutely. And we did it with a few youngsters too.

Last year we would have got whacked 4 or 5 by this Brentford team, one that is bigger and fitter than all of the others.

We are a work in progress. The base is fitness and intensity. That is coming along.

18 Oct 2026 02:01:56
I thought Brentford were great and never gave up even after they went down to 9 men. I was slightly disappointed at us though especially towards the end where it felt like we were the ones playing with a man down.

But we also should bear in mind that we had to reshuffle twice due to injuries to Szob and Frimpong which I'm sure wasn't planned for. Overall it was a good result but the performance was mixed.

{Ed666's Note - That Brentford manager is a star in the making. Future England manager?

18 Oct 2026 02:23:56
Probably not given that he is Irish.

18 Oct 2026 04:50:14
Brentford are a very difficult team to play against away. It's always going to be a physical battle, which is not something we're going to thrive against. Having watched the highlights it looks like they caused our left side quite a few problems, but we had the better chances even before the second red.

It looked a pretty scrappy game, where Rio and Munoz played well and helped us get the win. Wirtz also created a lot of chances.

18 Oct 2026 08:21:53
Save your breath Shipley.
The witch hunt on Wirtz is getting really pathetic right now.

The guy will just simply never do enough to please some people.

{Ed025's Note - come on guys its not a witch hunt, he has not produced the goods so you cant blame fans for being concerned about his ability or should i say lack of it, blind faith is probably worse..

19 Oct 2026 10:52:23
Like I always say, it all depends on what people want to focus on esp. a hard fought win at a ground where no one wins, red card be damned.

You can either recognise the positives in context while recognising the negatives and areas of improvement;

or you can go all doom and gloom and start raking plyers over the coals and being negative even tho, we all know you would have taken the win come hell or high water going into the game at the start.

Just my take.

17 Oct 2026 17:37:13
3 points is the obvious objective and that's a great outcome but c'mon we really have zero killer instinct atm.

{Ed666's Note - Our transitions and counter attacks are absolute garbage. We were spoiled with Salah, Mane & Bobby.

17 Oct 2026 18:43:57
You can't have a transition with a tree like isak up there in the middle. Took his goal well infact brilliant but boy he punctured all our attacks just by standing like a tree in middle so much so that barcola looked bad making certain decisions because he just didn't want to pass to isak. He just keeps standing in between defenders.

{Ed666's Note - what was barcolas excuse for the counter at the end? Isak wasn’t on the pitch

17 Oct 2026 18:55:22
Was Isak to blame for the late counter attacks failing after he was subbed off?

17 Oct 2026 19:05:10
This is definitely the place to come if you want some negativity.

17 Oct 2026 19:24:03
Wow did we let the throw in coach leave? As i watched our left back 4 times in a row throw it to a Brentford player, i don't think he was the only one either. good 3 points though well done lads. YNWA.

17 Oct 2026 19:33:12
The most obvious chance barcola had made his mind to pass but koumas fell and that just resulted in a brain freeze for barcola.

You guys miss the point though, all counter attacks happened post isak none when he was on the pitch. that's the problem i am talking about. He just stands like a tree dead center.

17 Oct 2026 19:53:36
Lost in fairness it was against 10 and 9 men.

Isak has lots of faults but crazily he's scored all of our league winning goals this season yet all he gets is pelters.

{Ed666's Note - his shot for the goal was going wide hadn’t it deflected off the defender. He was pathetic today.

17 Oct 2026 20:19:56
We were shocking at counters and in particular Barcola showed some real poor decision making, I actually think Wirtz played ok today didn't do much wrong but wasn't a star performer either. Isak took his goal brilliantly but outside of those 2 touches did absolutely nothing. Biggest problem is Our attacking play has absolutely no fluidity, our speed of passing and play is way too slow and just allows the opposition to get back into a low block which then doesn't suit players like Barcola who operate best in space.

Rio and Munoz were real bright sparks and were very aggressive in taking on there defender!

{Ed666's Note - Apparenty Wirtz created more chances today than he’s ever done in a Liverpool shirt? Can someone corroborate that stat please or correct me if I’m wrong?

17 Oct 2026 21:02:03
Problem is Barcola went through twice today 1on 1 with the keeper both times his decision making wasn't down to anyone except him.

17 Oct 2026 22:28:14
"We really have zero killer instinct".

What are you talking about? We've scored 8 goals in the CL and PL in the past 4 days - both away from home and in the case of Brentford, a ream that hadn't lost a game this season.

The overwhelming criticism of the team, week after week and irrespective of results, is genuinely pathetic.

Someone asked 'should we be happy with the win' which is, when you think about it and given the team with the most points at the end of the season wins the competition, not the most perceptive question in the world. Of course, whoever it was then went on to say how poor we were and had a go at one or two players. There's nothing like getting behind the team and supporting the coach and players as they try to build something. This constant whining about a lack of perfection is sad.

17 Oct 2026 23:34:05
Ed666 was It mate? In that case the league will surely award it as an own goal?

{Ed666's Note - I thought it was going wide mate but my eyesight ain’t great and I’d still give Katie Price the best 3 seconds of her life and that includes foreplay and a cigarette

18 Oct 2026 04:47:39
I thought leaving out koumas after that lask performance is major question mark on iraola. He went for the price tag instead of continuing with a confident player.
Our attacks will work much better with koumas barcola munoz and wirtz. While this was just a theory before i think after LASK and 10min yesterday we can say we have enough proof supporting the theory.

18 Oct 2026 07:27:13
The Isak shot was going wide? You sure about that mate?

Also I think Barcola's excuse was he was knackered at the end of the game, his hands being on his knees the last two counter attacks after running the length of the pitch kind of gave that away. Cue the usual 'he's a 100 million pound player, he should be able to play 180 minutes straight even if he didn't have a preseason'.

18 Oct 2026 08:22:51

My f***...now Isak is blamed for our counters.



AAARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

18 Oct 2026 07:56:22
Ed666
3 seconds? You stallion lol.

{Ed666's Note - What’s can I say mate I’m gifted

19 Oct 2026 10:56:42
@Fifth, you would thing we lost 3-0 like Chelsea and Spurs did at Brentford with many of the comments Ivebeen reading here and online.

For me, it's as if you are not allowed to be happy when your team wins while at the same time, recognising the flaws and the need to improve in areas A, B & C.

Frankly it seems like it has become some kind of badge of honour to rake your team and players over the coals after they win (esp. at a ground where nobody does) just to prove some kind of "I have higher standards for my club" nonsense that no one gives a crap about.

Really sad, indeed.

17 Oct 2026 17:57:55
Another 90 mins on loan for Ndukwe last night for anyone that's interested. Could end up a great loan for the lad.

17 Oct 2026 18:54:53
Seems to have moved ahead of Mandi in the pecking order.

17 Oct 2026 17:57:51
Only 3 points off the top- not too bad.

17 Oct 2026 18:13:16
PD, is this on the assumption that Cheaty get thrown out of the league this season?

17 Oct 2026 17:30:21
So looks like a bit of trouble with these injuries.

17 Oct 2026 17:45:01
Cheer me up Scottie. we've just had an important win we have a squad in a transitional season that is doing great in the circumstances. Trey and Koumas have got opportunities to impress Jacquet, Araujo and Munoz have been great signings. have a coke and a smile kidder and relax.

{Ed666's Note - I think Barcola could do with a Coke as it would speed him up a bit the lazy feck.

17 Oct 2026 17:52:48
Jesus we won. Glass half full eh.

{Ed666's Note - There’s winning and there’s that

17 Oct 2026 17:55:50
Something tells me we won't be getting much positivity out of Postklopp?.

17 Oct 2026 17:58:07
Weren't we in transition last season?

{Ed666's Note - Somebody needs to explain what a transition is to Barcola

17 Oct 2026 18:26:47
I'm not impressed at all with Barcola so far. He should look at videos of Mane to learn a bit about how to play for LFC.

17 Oct 2026 20:29:38
Yay, I asked on here a couple of weeks when the Barcola backlash would start. There's a lot of talk about transition but there's absolute zero tolerance if we don't play to any of the armchair critics idea of perfection.

Personally I find it intolerable when the opposition take it upon themselves to actually try and beat us - they should know that we have the right to just turn up and win - which, oddly, we did today.

17 Oct 2026 19:21:06
Agree with you on Barcola Ed. I did say back during the window that I just didn't see what all the fuss was about with him.
Always a poor finisher but didn't realise he was as bad as he was today.
I know others will cite the LASK hat-trick but come on, they're awfu and today was the Premier League.


Just glad of the win today because I thought we'd get a draw. Yes it was awful and we often looked like we were down to 10 men.
When we did break, it looked like we left our brains on the halfway line.
Having said that it's a lucky 3 points, away from home and I'll take it.

{Ed666's Note - I’m actually not worried about Barcola as I think he’ll come good but he needs a rocket up his ass and quickly. Klopp would have got him by the throat and would be squeezing the life out of him by now

18 Oct 2026 02:26:00
I don't think Klopp would ever physically assault one of his players, that sounds like the opposite of something Klopp would do.

18 Oct 2026 08:24:39
Your reply to me made me laugh Ed666.

I enjoyed that.
The 3 strikers that ended the game yesterday should all go to that same class with Barcola.
Those counters were embarrassing to say the least.

19 Oct 2026 10:59:11
Nah, Ed. There's only winning esp. in our situation going into that game, at that ground and against that team.

You may not like what i'm saying. But it's the truth.

{Ed666's Note - I dont like it when we win lucky or ugly mate. It just doesn’t sit right with me. We’ll be Man United otherwise.