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15 Sep 2018 19:04:16
Ed’s,

Question for you - I notice that during the latter stages of last season and this season we are using a more conservative style of play (more cautious about opposition breaking and overcommitting men forward) rather than the completely attack minded play from early and mid last season, as well as seasons before. By any chance has this got anything to do with Buvac (his absence) by any chance?

{Ed001's Note - slightly yes. In that he had different ideas of how to play, which was what led to him leaving.}

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15 Sep 2018 21:11:34
We seem more restrained and more professional this year.
We have only conceded 2 goals and both were completely avoidable.
Still got the best defensive record in the league though, who would have thought that even at this stage.
Scary how much more there is to come from this team, we still look like we are stuck in second gear.

15 Sep 2018 21:46:02
We're starting to look like we have an ex-defender as a manager!

Seriously though- I hate how pundits are mostly just quoting how much money we spent in the summer and how it means we 'must' win the title or be a laughing stock. The question should not be 'how much', but 'how' did we spend the money? The answer is that we addressed weak areas, as opposed to the 'kid in a sweetshop', and are now a team to challenge as a result.

16 Sep 2018 09:45:17
Hi Mikey - 'We have only conceded 2 goals and both were completely avoidable' - we also scored two goals yesterday that were completely avoidable! That is the nature of the game. Our problem at the moment is that we are not taking a lot of the chances that we get. But the team is good enough to resolve that and I think that before too long some team is going to be the victim of a real hiding.

15 Sep 2018 18:48:08
Ok right I'm not a fan of this Matip sub in the final 10 mins. The logic is the height advantage at set pieces but Klopp should cut it out IMO as it unsettles the back 4. But it did not 'invite pressure', as it didn't change the formation to a back 5. And you can't blame Matip for the goal conceded which was a worldly/ massively spawny. Made up with 3 points and perfect start!

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15 Sep 2018 19:07:54
There is no logic to this unless it’s an attacking change or an injury, it just unsettled the back line that had kept a clean sheet away to Tottenham up until that point.

It’s one of the few things that frustrates me about Klopp.

15 Sep 2018 20:04:13
I see it as more Gomez replacing Trent at full back who's better defensively. Plus the added height of Matip is a reason too.

15 Sep 2018 20:38:35
I agree with stoneage. it is almost like playing not to lose. I understand the strategy, I just don't agree with it. In my opinion, there are better ways to close out matches. However, we are still unbeaten in the league so, what do I know?

15 Sep 2018 21:48:44
Just before Matip came on I was saying to the wife how our subs were excellent today - they made us STRONGER! Studge and Henderson kept a tiring Spuds on the back foot. All good! As a strategy of 'not losing' once you have a lead I much prefer keeping the ball as a tactic.

That said, a couple of points deducted for studge who really didn't seem bothered when he came on, culminating with turning his back on Lamela to concede the goal. Put your body on the line lad!

15 Sep 2018 21:57:30
What?

16 Sep 2018 02:11:56
We have a strong bench. Going to be hard for some to ride the bench but in the long run it will mean big results for us. Fabinho hasn't played one minute, Shaqiri hits worldies in training and hasn't had much game time. and that's because we are a deserved 5-0 in the league. The real test is PSG. can the players who played 90 minutes today give 90 more?

15 Sep 2018 16:06:06
Caught the first half and then had my own match - glad we held on! Not sure about the second but we looked in control to me, even when spurs had their ‘spell’ what did they do? Once Keita gets the cohesion with the front three and they pick up we will blow teams away but it’s great we keep winning anyway!

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15 Sep 2018 17:58:49
Largely had control in the second half too imo. Lucas Moura hit the post shortly before our second goal (and not long after Robertson had hit the top of the bar for us), but apart from that, I don't think they even got a half chance until after the 80th minute.

We should've been over the hill and far away by that stage. We had a couple of 3 v 3 or even 4 v 3 breaks where we picked the wrong option and didn't score.

15 Sep 2018 22:01:43
“Once Kieta gets the cohesion”
True! Only if he is played to his strength! Keita is a central player. Drops deep, picks the ball and run with it forward and pick a pass! He is never a LCM or someone who have ever played in a 3 men midfield. Watch his spells at RBL over the last two years!

16 Sep 2018 00:04:04
It doesn’t matter where Keita played at RB Leipzig, he is a Liverpool player now and he plays where is best for Liverpool. He is young enough and good enough to learn how to play in a slightly different position and he’ll be a better player for it. Don’t forget Firmino wasn’t a striker before Klopp came along and now he is one of the best in the world.

16 Sep 2018 09:41:08
Kramer
Oh it does! Which is exactly why you buy a player for certain position based on his attributes. If he played poor at RBL we wouldn’t have splashed ££ on him.
There is hardly anything for him to learn and you are missing the point here. The critical point. Just like Brendan played both Can and Firmino ouf of their true position we must not play Kieta anywhere in the midfield and expect him to unlock defense or score goals.
He is such a natural talent blessed with excellent abilities on the ball. Kieta will never fit in a 3 men midfield out wide. We could certainly try!

16 Sep 2018 09:42:03
Missed the game as I’m in Florida atm (hols) haven’t missed the so called banter 3 points away to spurs is always a good result regardless. Well in boys.

15 Sep 2018 14:27:09
Someone has to talk to Klopp about changing the back four at the last minute. I hope it doesn't cost us one of these days.
Salah seems to be over-anxious to score and Mane was indecisive with the final passes at times.
All in all, fantastic three points away from home.
YNWA.

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15 Sep 2018 14:50:26
The commentator mentioned TAA had a knock so they brought JM on.

15 Sep 2018 14:53:20
I think we could of done with another forward in the summer too freshen things up and not b too predictable feel a bit sorry for shaqiri got a feeling he could do good things for us.

15 Sep 2018 14:54:18
He doesn't seem to have learnt a single thing about subs.

He's just not improving with it.

Every is brilliant apart form that it's trully trully awful.

15 Sep 2018 15:34:44
Some people are never happy.

15 Sep 2018 16:26:48
You mean: Some people are always looking to improve our play. Putting on Matip at the end invited on pressure and it probably would have been 2-2 had it not been for a wrong call from the ref.

15 Sep 2018 16:54:14
You can always improve chakob but 5 wins from 5 really isn’t the time to complain about anything. Winning your first 5 games in the bPL is no small feat.

15 Sep 2018 17:01:50
If your first post after beating a top 6 rival away is a complaint then you are never happy.

15 Sep 2018 17:31:57
Seriously?

15 Sep 2018 18:30:34
Great start to the season 🏆

Matip does seem to be a goal magnet 🤨.

15 Sep 2018 18:47:09
Klopsboss is right.
There was another thread several weeks ago abt the same substitutaion issues and the problems it causes.
Klopp is stubborn and unless the sittuation really becomes critical he does nothing abt it.
Good examples of this were the defence and goalkeeping positions.
It took Klopp 2 and a bit seasons to accept he needs better defenders - that's after 5 previous seasons of having defenders that were campetent enough and those that were, were aging on a downward decline.
Rodgers lost us the title because of defence issues.
As for goalkeepers, it was only afyer realising how angry fans were at Karius and then deciding to buy a new keeper.
Being stubborn leads to ignorance.

The LFC fans are all happy to over look cracks in the the team and dismiss them when we are winning but wehn we do not win they all of suddon become experts and see all the cracks that were there before.

I do not always ageee with everyones opinion on here but to dig him out for wanting a perefect setup/ performance/ team.

15 Sep 2018 22:03:03
I don't know if it took Klopp 2.5 seasons to "accept" we needed changes or if it took that time to effect the changes. i'm leaning with the latter as I'd always felt it'd take 3 summer windows to get Klopp's squad in shape.

15 Sep 2018 21:20:12
15 from 15 lads. just be happy.

15 Sep 2018 22:03:51
People were over confident on Salah to score 40 goals again! That is not happening. Which is why he chased Fekir all summer. We still haven’t got that Phil Coutinho magic in our midfield!

15 Sep 2018 23:29:00
Seems to me that now that Wijnaldum has proved the moaners wrong, it’s the manager’s substitutions that are coming in for stick. 5 wins out of 5 - just enjoy it for what it is.

16 Sep 2018 00:05:14
Salah won’t need to score 40 goals this season because our defence will concede less than last season.

15 Sep 2018 14:22:48
I've been very happy with Gomez so far this season. Nothing flashy, but steady, which is what you need.

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15 Sep 2018 14:33:23
Personally, I won't bring Lovren back to the side when he becomes fit, unless Gomez loses form.

15 Sep 2018 13:33:27
Would love to see shaquiri get a game. Salah still not quite at it.

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15 Sep 2018 16:43:37
I knew there was going to be a lot of pressure on salah this season. I think he will get over 20 but I'm not expecting another 40 goal season.

Also, Liverpool are playing less "heavy metal football" and have moved to a more classy rock n roll. We don't score as many but we don't concede as many and have won every game, top of the league.

Would you rather salah won the golden Boot or Liverpool win the league? UK.

15 Sep 2018 13:22:32
Wijnaldum has scored an away goal in the premier league.

The end is near.

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Premier League Previews 15 September 2018

15 Sep 2018 12:05:25
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Previews 15 September 2018

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15 Sep 2018 11:38:43
Was really expecting hendo in for wini. What a bench though.

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15 Sep 2018 11:47:43
I'm going to say "big mistake" right now, so I'll have egg on my face in a couple of hours time when Wijnaldum is MotM.

That's the theory anyway.

15 Sep 2018 11:58:18
Poorest performance was Leicester. The only game Hendo started.
The midfield on form, is the right choice.
Beginning of the end for Hendo?

{Ed025's Note - i dont think so benny, im not his biggest fan myself mate but i still think he has a part to play this season..

15 Sep 2018 12:24:11
Good for gini to play a settled position. He is obviously versatile, but shifting from deepest midfielder to box to box can influnce his consistency.

15 Sep 2018 13:15:47
Yep, that’ll be some egg on your face!

15 Sep 2018 13:30:21
Half time and gini with the goal. I thought gini was a strange choice too but so far it's keita who hasn't impressed.

15 Sep 2018 13:04:34
A big part ed25. I am quite surprised he didn't start today to be honest mate.

{Ed025's Note - i think klopp picked the right team for me mate..

15 Sep 2018 14:42:11
When fabihno gets in there and gets too grips with how we play an what's needed he will be a real plus for us. i am very surprised he hasn't established his position yet I like what he brings pace aerial ability heading tackling and a strong personality can't wait too see more of him .

15 Sep 2018 14:50:39
It doesn't surprise me as since we signed him everyone saying he is world class going to b so good watch him go all that he is the one, I think it will take time for him too really find his feet in all aspects, joining a big well publicised club and being the star player signing brings pressure especially taking the number 8 shirt, we need too b patient with him too grow into the team .

Review Of The Day 15th September 2018

15 Sep 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th September 2018

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15 Sep 2018 09:03:16
Morning Eds and Reds,
Great gesture by Craig Gordon there. 👏.

15 Sep 2018 07:55:04
Thanks Ed. Have a good one! Just in train to Landan. Come on Reds!

{Ed001's Note - stay safe mate.}

15 Sep 2018 09:35:39
Cheers Ed, have a good one mate.

{Ed001's Note - and you mate.}

15 Sep 2018 10:53:32
Morning, cheers ed. Even with Girona being spoilsports-in-chief in actually agreeing to the game with Barcelona, do you see this thing actually going ahead? Surely if enough teams say they will boycott it then the competition will have to cease with the plan. I’m guessing there is not the same club vote in La Liga that happens in the Premier League.

Also, nice touch by Gordon. I haven’t seen the challenge, but at least he recognises the vitalness of the earnings lost to the guy he injured. I know they won't be earning much, but I am surprised there is no injury payment in the contract or insurances involved.

{Ed001's Note - there are still a lot of people who have to agree so hopefully it won't happen.


I don't see it as a good touch by Gordon, it is the least he could do imo. A multi-millionaire paying the lowly salary of a lower league footballer, who he viciously kicked out of 3 months of football. Is that a good touch? I think we really are setting a low bar if it is.}

15 Sep 2018 12:07:11
Agreed but he didn't have to do it and there a plenty that wouldn’t have. At least he recognised he was wrong and made amends, to a degree. That was all I meant.

15 Sep 2018 17:14:31
I understand in theory why La Liga would play a game in the states, I just don't agree with it at all. I wouldn't want to give up a home match just to play in the U. S. Anyway, thanks Ed and have a great day (I guess evenening now for you)

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate and yes evening now.}

 


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