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13 Nov 2023 11:39:28
A search didn't bring anything recent up - is there anything in the rumours linking us with Lloyd Kelly from Bournemouth?

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Lloyd Kelly (CB) Free Agent next summer interesting Spurs, Milan Borussia Dortmund and West Ham. Wildcard may be Fulham, Newcastle or even Liverpool who have a lengthy list of CBs being considered.}


1.) 13 Nov 2023 11:54:32
Cheers Ed002. Can't say I've seen him play really but assume he's half decent based on the list of interested teams ?.


2.) 13 Nov 2023 12:48:17
Might be wrong but I'm pretty sure Liverpool had a lot interest a long time ago when he moved to Bournemouth, would be a very good option to replace Matip with potentially saying that I feel Quansah has shown more then enough to be 3rd/ 4th choice.

{Ed002's Note - There was interest before.}


3.) 13 Nov 2023 12:30:20
How do I search for that CB list ED? Any names to search for?

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get involved in providing any lists at this time.}


4.) 14 Nov 2023 11:11:18
He would be a great signing.


5.) 14 Nov 2023 18:18:20
Nah, Lfcfan_03beef. We can definitely do better than Kelly, bro.


6.) 15 Nov 2023 10:19:58
If its for free in the summer its a good signing for me too. especially if the club still thinks Chambers needs a loan.


7.) 17 Nov 2023 00:30:50
Only thinking squad option, tidy player with plenty of potential and youd think quite cheap, Ed2 has told us a few times that Tsimikas won't last forever as our backup so would be a fine addition in my opinion. If you haven’t watched so much of him take a little look. Since I made that post I also have seen a few rumours about Ait-nouri (sp sorry if wrong) who I do also like. Neither would spell the end for Chambers I don’t think.


 

 

21 Jul 2023 13:16:32
I know we've seen this dismissed before but reading earlier that City and Leipzig are some way apart over Gvardiol - any chance of us stepping in now that we have extra funds available from the Hendo/ Fab sales?

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}


1.) 21 Jul 2023 16:32:45
They not selling this year and us signing him next???just kidding.


 

 

13 Apr 2022 07:23:26
Eds, seen us linked with Gelson Bremer of Torino in the press a few times recently - anything in this? Wasn't sure we need another CB at the moment unless someone is moving on perhaps.

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


1.) 13 Apr 2022 11:26:00
I can see Gomez leaving for Villa so that he gets to play. I also see a need for an elite CB who can challenge the rest. Gomez is not that suited to our system, and is unlucky w injuries. I like the look of Bremer, but it appears he has chosen Inter.
Wonder why we bid for Demiral and then didn't go for him once he became available.


2.) 13 Apr 2022 12:29:18
Would have thought Gomez was perfect for our system.


3.) 13 Apr 2022 12:58:48
How is Gomez not suited to our system he's perfect for it. rapid and decent on the ball.


4.) 13 Apr 2022 14:10:43
I think that Ed1 said once that it’s cos he’s not good in the air which is needed for the high line.


5.) 13 Apr 2022 14:25:09
What about either of the centre half’s from Burnley. Ben mee and Tarkowski spelling 🤣. remember when they were highly thought of 👍👍.


6.) 13 Apr 2022 16:33:06
Can imagine dem 2 defending near d halfway line alrite! Gomez on the other hand is nearly as quick as Virg.


7.) 13 Apr 2022 17:35:33
Gomez isn't suited to our system?
Eh?
Baffled by that to be honest.


8.) 13 Apr 2022 18:38:07
Gomez should be playing next to VVD. Klopp has that wrong imo. Gomez would cover the area Trent leaves much better than Matip. And of course Matip is the deflection own goal king. Matip has been good but not as good as Gomez was in the title winning season and of course Gomez could be playing in our side for the next 10 years.


9.) 13 Apr 2022 19:43:03
I've got the faintest suspicion that this Klopp fella know what he's doing.


10.) 14 Apr 2022 01:56:10
Spot on Flash. Best manager in the world, yet all the experts here know better than him, lol.


11.) 14 Apr 2022 09:49:03
Gomez isn't good enough he's a ball watcher. the only thing that bails him out is his pace. Virgil doesn't need pace he's always in the right position. thast thetype of cb we need, not a recovering CB.


12.) 14 Apr 2022 11:25:58
I thought Matip was the ball watcher who is constantly caught out with balls over the top. I don't get where this dislike for Gomez comes from - before his injury him and VVD were the main CB partnership and he didn't put a foot wrong. Personally, I still think Gomez is a better CB than Matip and Konate.


13.) 14 Apr 2022 15:41:52
Totally agree, he needs games, is England best CB when MATCH fit and can assist like Trent too and at one point was the fastest in the team. One hell of a player.


14.) 14 Apr 2022 17:51:37
Centre backs generally need pace in our system due to the high line they defend with (Matip possibly being a slight exception) . And I see Van Dijk using his pace on a regular basis, if he didn't we'd be conceding a damned sight more than we are now.


15.) 14 Apr 2022 19:58:05
Hi ed. do we have any attention on Lovro Majer? Appreciate for your thoughts. thank you.

{Ed002's Note - No, this is just another random player.}


16.) 14 Apr 2022 20:02:50
If Gomez played for another top European side and was available, everyone on here would be screaming for his signature. Top player in my opinion.


17.) 15 Apr 2022 10:11:51
I agree with Stuie, Gomez is our 2nd best CB and perfectly suited to our system, letting him go would be a huge mistake.


18.) 15 Apr 2022 19:15:06
Games stays IMO. Really quick and covers two positions well. The highline typically needs someone stronger in the air on paper, which matip offers, but JG isn't exactly bad either. I'd prefer recovery pace, especially going up against teams that try to pass through the back line.


19.) 16 Apr 2022 11:34:22
Gomez is a top player and his pace means he can play the high line we want very well. Honestly hope he stays as I see him and Konate as our cb partnership for years to come.


20.) 18 Apr 2022 00:02:13
I honestly think Gomez doesn’t get played purely because of his height. Being a top team means that teams target set pieces as their most realistic chance of scoring and Matip and Konate are better at defending them with their height and aerial ability.
Gomez did us proud in the title winning season he was outstanding and if he does leave I’m sure he will be again. Good luck to him.


21.) 20 Apr 2022 09:24:58
Do not think Gomez is aggressive enough in the air for us. With liverpool's high line and pressing up front, teams will lump it up, so you need the CB's and DM to be dominant in the air and while Gomez might not be weak in that area, he's behind others.


 

 

25 Mar 2022 14:38:50
Just reading that Leeds are looking to buy Ryan Kent from Rangers, fee mentioned is £20m. Any of the Eds know whether there is a sell-on clause from when we sold him to Rangers? Could be a nice boost (or pay Salah's new wage for a couple of weeks) .

johnnyr1970

{Ed002's Note - Kent's TMS listing has a sell on clause identified on a sliding scale. It seems unlikely anyone would pay £20M for him. It is hard to see Leeds having a need for him.}


1.) 25 Mar 2022 18:08:43
Jaysus are be scraping the barrel we need to be looking for a sell on clause he’s not worth 5m.


2.) 25 Mar 2022 22:20:23
@Jay, some call it scrapping the barrel, some call it sound business sense.


3.) 26 Mar 2022 02:48:43
Jay won’t even pay for Sky Sports yet Liverpool are the ones scraping the barrel 😭.


4.) 26 Mar 2022 04:18:42
I wouldn't pay for Sky Sports either. Scumbag channel.


5.) 26 Mar 2022 04:21:00
If scraping the barrel means getting 1m more . I am for scrapping my life.


6.) 26 Mar 2022 12:23:03
Jay why is he not worth that Leeds payed £15m for Dan James and he is worse than awful.


7.) 26 Mar 2022 15:21:02
James is doing his best in the epl! Scottish league is below championship level in my opinion.


8.) 26 Mar 2022 18:22:00
VVD must be crap aswell then having played for Celtic, tierney aswell?


9.) 26 Mar 2022 19:50:03
Jay Kent did not look to bad against Dortmund don’t think I have seen James play good once for Leeds or Utd loads of pace and that’s it.


10.) 27 Mar 2022 03:31:28
I don’t watch a lot of Scottish football but I have never thought Kent has stood out for Rangers, I would be amazed if someone would pay £20m for him.


11.) 27 Mar 2022 04:17:39
Kent’s value isn’t really the point.

It is more a case of our revenue streams have been seriously disrupted over the past couple of years and a person who isn’t shy at saying that the club has no money and that the owners won’t spend is saying the club shouldn’t be ars#d trying to make money out of a sell on clause. Just seems strange to me.


 

 

08 Jan 2022 12:04:14
Spurs looking to bid for Traore according to the press today chaps. That should put that one to bed unless Klopp wants to push the boat out for his alleged obsession 😂.

johnnyr1970

1.) 08 Jan 2022 12:24:53
If klopps and conte's reportes interest is true its mad how little both know about football. I honestly think some fans living at home in there Mothers attic could do a better job than these overpaid overhyped ciaches sometimes.


2.) 08 Jan 2022 12:32:47
They can have him.
My main concern is Villa want Bissouma now. We’re going to miss some very big targets if the club don’t start selling and spending. He’s one player I think we are in need of. Midfield looks tired and is ageing or not working or both.


3.) 08 Jan 2022 14:10:52
Brighton to Villa would be a step up but not to the extent of moving to Liverpool and playing under Klopp would be. I’m sure (might be wrong) but Bissouma’s preference would surely be Liverpool and Klopp.

But the problem is Brightons preference would probably be 50 mill in cash from Villa over milk tokens paid over 60 months by Liverpool.


4.) 08 Jan 2022 14:29:22
I would no point for a player to move from Brighton to Villa except for more money. A step up, but not enough to warrant the move unless its for money imo.


5.) 08 Jan 2022 15:26:39
And yet we saw a 31yr old leave Madrid and the champs Lge yesterday for a relegation fight on sunny Týneside.


6.) 08 Jan 2022 15:32:39
Liverpool might be a bigger step up but we haven’t bud so it’s a mute point, Villa will be a good team given time and it’s a step up from Brighton.


7.) 08 Jan 2022 16:57:04
Tripper wanted to leave and come back to England. I fail to see the comparison.


8.) 08 Jan 2022 17:16:17
Ok, he would have swapped Madrid and champs lge under Simeone for that Newcastle side before the saudi's arrived witheir chequebook. At his age its not even as if he's going to see trophies there. He'll probably be relegated in May. Mattress b fulla nice cash though.


9.) 08 Jan 2022 17:23:27
Jason Havertz, sure, you know better than Klopp. Dream on, and keep playing FIFA.


10.) 08 Jan 2022 17:36:58
I knew there'd be one😆.


11.) 08 Jan 2022 18:19:29
Aye but you had to wait 5 hours Jadon. All the same, there's always one.


12.) 08 Jan 2022 19:07:36
Maybe there was no suitors for tripper until Newcastle owners ce in. I mean ots a pretty good fit. They need to upgrade and he is experienced.


13.) 08 Jan 2022 19:33:45
Bored Irish, the highlight of my day😆.


14.) 08 Jan 2022 21:29:28
Klopp as also hinted he won't sign unvaccinated players.


15.) 09 Jan 2022 03:21:43
I may be wrong here but wasn’t it said (by Ed02 maybe - but I stand to be corrected) that Bissouma preferred Arsenal as a destination when a few of us were getting into a tizzy in the summer transfer window?


16.) 09 Jan 2022 10:54:21
Maybe Aresnal won't prefer him tho WDW?


 

 

 

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26 Jan 2024 11:13:45
Surprised this has come out now, possible to derail what looks like it could be a good season ☹️.

johnnyr1970

1.) 26 Jan 2024 11:25:44
I reckon journos may have got wind of it, so getting the club to announce it before rumours swirl is smart. If the club need to start speaking with other managers, that's more and more people knowing what is going on and greater chance of people talking.

We all knew it'd happen eventually and no greater motivation for the players now. Let's go and win the lot and send the man out on the highest note possible.


2.) 26 Jan 2024 11:36:44
Pretty sure the only people that did not know about it are us fans. And he said that in his interview. Everyone within the club had known about it since Nov. and he literally said that if it "derails" the good season then, that's on him and the players.


3.) 26 Jan 2024 12:50:40
That's what I think WYred, think he had to say it or is was going to be a big story broke, someone's got wind of it.


 

 

22 Jan 2024 17:05:58
I'm asking for trouble now but. does anyone else think that Gomez holds down that LB spot for now even when Robertson is fit? I think it's working well so far, why change it?

johnnyr1970

1.) 22 Jan 2024 17:15:15
It's a valid argument now which is saying something about how good Joe is playing right now.

Not for me personally though. I'm a massive Robertson fan.

But this inverted RB formation seems to work better with Joe.

Still Robertson for me though. He is just electric and going forward makes that left side lethal.

Man that was tough. Hard to choose between two players you love. And Tsimikas. Love him too. LB is covered to say the least.


2.) 22 Jan 2024 18:08:18
As long as Robbo is available, the spot is his for me but at the same time, I completely agree with Davey, it is a tough one. Part of me thinks why change what's clearly working? Gomez has done incredible and we can't fault him but we're talking about Robbo here, he has to start when fit.


3.) 22 Jan 2024 18:15:55
I thought the same thing during the Bournemouth game to be honest. Huge Robbo fan, but unless you're moving him to RB, I don't think you can drop Gomez from the team at the moment. The way the games have unfolded so far, it's not a stretch to imagine one for weekend games, one for midweek games, which, along with our front line, gives us the strongest lb combination in the league IMO.


4.) 22 Jan 2024 18:51:33
I concur. Massive Robbo fan but he should have to fight for it and earn that place back from Gomez.


5.) 22 Jan 2024 19:23:10
Robbo has been fantastic for us so this isn't a slating but I just felt we looked a bit weaker at the back earlier in the season than we do now, and that's coincided with Gomez playing really well. Good problem for the manager to have as the old cliche goes.


6.) 22 Jan 2024 20:29:39
OP, the only good thing with Gomez playing lights out right now is that we don't have to rush Robbo back to play and even when he is fully fit and ready, Gomez should still keep his place cos at that point, he will be playing with a lot of confidence and momentum and it would be foolish to cut all that short suddenly.


7.) 22 Jan 2024 20:29:50
Isn’t it great that we can debate this .
I can’t remember the last time we could have so many different opinions on who plays where when everyone is fit .

How far we have come.


8.) 22 Jan 2024 20:43:13
Gomez has been so good this season. But I still feel, Diaz's game suffers from not having a left sided LB. Robertson still the first choice for me. But Joe has been nothing short of fantastic. The application has been first class.


9.) 22 Jan 2024 21:32:09
Robbo is a genuine attacking outlet down that left hand side. Gomez much less so.
It's a tough one, but whatever happens I badly want to see Gomez get his first goal for the club. preferably with one of those long range efforts he seems to let go at least once in every game now.


10.) 22 Jan 2024 21:47:55
Would defs keep playing Gomez. Lose a bit going forward but shores up the defence and arguably takes pressure off Trent defensively to allow him to go and play his game.
With Trent and Robbo bombing on it often leaves us exposed.


11.) 22 Jan 2024 21:50:00
I think when Robbo is back we might see Gomez get more game time in the middle allowing Konate to have his game time managed.


12.) 23 Jan 2024 01:16:56
Gomez keeps his place in the team, simple as that. Not only is the team winning (do not make unnecessary changes to a winning team), but Gomez is starting to look like the top class, brutal defender we hoped he’d become. He was excellent from 2018-2020, but was limited by his size at the time and age. Now, he’s bigger, stronger and more aggressive to go along with his defensive ability.


13.) 23 Jan 2024 03:44:34
I'm with Oli on this though. Robbo would still be first choice at LB for me purely because that is his natural position unlike Gomez but, Gomez's form does mean that Robbo has more time to get up to speed and get used to the demands of playing again. There's now no urgency to rush players back from injury, which is a testament to how good our squad is at the moment.


14.) 23 Jan 2024 04:05:40
I wouldn’t make changes to a winning team looks. Plus Gomez has been one of our star performers these last 8 weeks or so. Put him right back he perform, put him left back he performs. That’s pretty impressive by all accounts. It’s a tough one but Gomez stays left back for the time being. Trent has to come in because he is one of the main players in the side. So back four of Gomez, VVD, Konate and Trent for me. Gomez can always go right back later on in matches, Trent moves into midfield and Robbo goes left back. Klopp has pushed Trent into midfield in the latter stages of games, so it’s not a far fetched idea.


15.) 23 Jan 2024 07:52:49
Really impressed with Gomez of late his confidence and energy has been awesome
Robbo will be so happy to be back soon fighting for his spot
Lucky to have healthy competition.


16.) 23 Jan 2024 08:38:37
i Think Joe Gomez keeps the LB position until he at least scores YNWA.


17.) 23 Jan 2024 08:55:59
First world problems, right Dhfc?


18.) 23 Jan 2024 09:50:06
It just means we don't have to rush Robertson back doesn't it, so its a win win for everyone.


19.) 23 Jan 2024 10:13:49
I personally don't believe in dropping a player who has been performing really well. I think robbo should be brought back in when form dips or injury hits. He won't be fully fit for a while anyway.


20.) 23 Jan 2024 11:25:41
Honestly a great debate to have isn't it? Think, given the sheer number of games coming up that we could well see one play midweek and one at the weekend

Interesting too we could rotate as well depending on the opposition and what is needed in game - a more attacking outlet? Definitely Robbo, works very well with Diaz too. More defensive and the ability to drop in as a 3rd cb to let TAA go to midfield? Definitely Gomez.

Great option and debate to have though isn't it?


21.) 23 Jan 2024 11:55:01
I personally believe that Joe should be kept at LB for the foreseeable.

I think he helps the inverted Trent role work better. My opinion only is that when Trent moves in and we go to the make shift back 3 Joe is a natural CB. Where as asking Robbo to move into a back 3 is a square peg in a round hole. We just look more assured defensively with Joe back there.

The tactical play of both wing back bombing on has developed into the new system. Which ultimately wouldn't suit Robbo.

I am glad i'm not Jurgen or Pep having to make such decisions.

{Ed025's Note - dont worry about the fullback position RedO, joe will be injured shortly mate...after all he has played about 5 games now so thats his season nearly over i expect.. :)


22.) 24 Jan 2024 00:40:56
That's a but unfair on Joe though Ed. He does seem to be injury prone but a check on his injury history paints a different picture. While it does seem like he misses a lot of games due to injury, he basically only had two very significant periods where he was out due to major problems - first in 15/ 16 where he was out for 234 days due to cruciate ligament problems and the second in 20/ 21 where he was out for 231 days due to patellar tendon problems after reporting for England duty and being overplayed.

Since coming back from that, he has just missed 5 games due to injury. Fair point, his form was poor for the entirety of last season and he was out of the side because of that but to say that it was because of injuries would be incorrect.

{Ed025's Note - thats why i just love Liverpool supporters Drac, last season when he was not playing well the majority on here wanted shut of him, now he has come in and done a good job and is apparently "World class" now!, i actually think hes a decent player but a bit injury prone and can be inconsistent mate..


 

 

28 Sep 2023 06:30:59
Anyone got any thoughts on why we seem to be conceding first in so many games. Not having an issue with the ultimate results just find it odd that we're not starting games as positively as we're ending them and nervous that it might catch up on us eventually!

johnnyr1970

1.) 28 Sep 2023 06:55:25
No idea! The goals we’ve conceded have kinda been different too and the opposition have to be good enough to take the chance.

I can remember many games when we’ve scored first but that was after the opposition missed a chance themselves.


2.) 28 Sep 2023 06:57:30
Better teams won’t be so kind.


3.) 28 Sep 2023 07:17:21
Hopefully it's just a small run of bad luck rather than us not being 100% focused/ ready at the start of games!


4.) 28 Sep 2023 08:19:44
I've been saying it for weeks: we're not bothering to defend this season.
The focus is on scoring three every game ?.


5.) 28 Sep 2023 08:25:48
Look at the goals themselves in addition to the period we are conceding them. Without exception, when we concede first in games they are goals born from defensive errors which, with the quality of players we have, is down to a lack of concentration and nothing more. Bournemouth, Newcastle, Wolves, Leicester - all early goals and all poor defensive errors.


6.) 28 Sep 2023 09:04:49
If Tsimikas didn’t go down holding his ankle I very much doubt Leicester would have scored!


7.) 28 Sep 2023 09:19:52
Not all goals are because of poor defending.

However, if you accept that they are then the argument that our defence is poor is self defeating, as we are on a 17 game unbeaten run in the PL and this season we have 7 wins and 1 draw from our 8 games.

As our defence keeps conceding less than the opposition then, logically, we have the best defence in the league at the current time.


8.) 28 Sep 2023 09:53:31
Indeed, WDW3. And sorry, people need to miss me with the old, tired "other teams will not be so kind" and all that mess. It's football. Other teams will get chances against us and score due to the way we play. Move on.

Now in the games vs Chelsea, Bournmouth and Newcastle, those goals were down to individual errors/ not pushing up on the offside trap as a defensive block vs Chelsea, all of which can happen.

Vs Wolves again, individual defensive mistakes (not tracking your man, and Gomez and Matip standing around for Neto to walk past them) . Vs WH and LASK, I put it down to great play by the opposition while vs LC, it was a well worked counter attack. Like I said above, the other guys on the other team are pros. who get paid big wages to sort us out and find gaps, create chances and score goals. It is what it is. And Good luck keeping clean sheets in every game you play. I wouldn't hold my breathe tho.


9.) 28 Sep 2023 10:14:46
West Derby Wanderer - Point me to any, ANY, of the early goals we’ve conceded this season and tell me they were as a result of quality play by the opposition. You know full well that isn’t true.
Your whole comment makes no sense, surprising given what you normally post. And no one said our defence is poor, in fact most people agree it is stacked with world class players, hence the bafflement at why we’re conceding poor goals early in games.


10.) 28 Sep 2023 10:36:06
A lot of individuals errors.


11.) 28 Sep 2023 10:46:59
It’s to keep the betting syndicates happy, get a tenner on Liverpool winning 3-1 every game after conceding first. Lol.


12.) 28 Sep 2023 13:33:44
@IR yes, a lot of individual errors cos it is the start of the season and we have not even gotten a settled midfield nor back line yet due to injuries, new tactics, rotation, new players needing to bed in and suspensions.

Clearly, no team in history has had to deal with all of that at the start of a season until LFC pitched up. Like I said, it's football. It happens. No need to overthink it.


13.) 28 Sep 2023 14:20:32
By "better teams" you mean?

Let's look at the Stats:

5 Unwanted concessions in first 6 league games

However second lowest in Prem. Only City less with 3 and then Arsenal and Chelsea come joint 3rd with 6 in 6

Of the other teams top 8 Brighton 8, Newcastle and Spurs 7, Villa and West Ham 10

Needless to say Chelsea is the only team out of top 10 to then get close though they can't score hence where they are

Then other comps. The only team bettering us in goals conceded in the league also conceded first to average competition in the CL (we did in Europa) they conceded and are out of the other competition to have started.

Now to the games played:

I would argue (though not getting much counter argument and more agreement from those I speak to) that we have had as tough a start as any. Us and Newcastle have arguably had the hardest start in terms of teams played and that is set to continue for us for the next 2 with high flying Spurs and Brighton both away.

Last night a breakaway goal scored early and, in honesty, pure domination thereafter. I don't know about anyone else but at the moment when we have any form of setback (concession, red card) I am continually believing we will turn it around - that's a good feeling!

So all in all when you break it down, I don't think you can really confidently use the words "better teams" right now - certainly not in the context used?!


14.) 28 Sep 2023 13:36:02
Us and everyone else by the look of the stats then @Rigsby?

Except the scoring 3 that is esp. in Chelsea’s case.


15.) 28 Sep 2023 13:42:56
We’ve still conceded the second least goals to Man City, only 25 clean sheets across 20 teams (representing 120 opportunities for clean sheets across the 6 games) .

Conceding early is much better than conceding late unless you have a pretty decent cushion already.

Not conceding at all is of course best and but this is clearly not a league where clean sheets are an abundant norm and if you are an entertaining attacking team you do open up more but as long as you have the credentials to outscore why would your fans have issue?!


16.) 29 Sep 2023 05:43:21
^ what he said ?.


 

 

26 Mar 2023 16:22:31
Just noted that England are playing out first choice midfield for the 23/ 24 season. what a coincidence ??.

johnnyr1970

1.) 26 Mar 2023 17:16:55
Was a joke BTW, we all know Hendo won't be in it as Rabiot will be there instead.


2.) 26 Mar 2023 18:42:13
Thought it'd be trent.


3.) 26 Mar 2023 20:27:29
Did England start Henderson, Elliott amd Fabhino? As that's our starting midfield next season.


4.) 27 Mar 2023 00:57:02
See what you did there @Kim - you think we won’t be signing any mids don’t you?


 

 

28 Feb 2023 13:30:43
Oh no, annual results released, prepare for daft questions Eds!

Important bit - look at the profit number folks (clue, it's very low) rather than reading the revenue headlines!

johnnyr1970

1.) 28 Feb 2023 15:11:03
That is why we urgently require middle east oil monies to spend. But inexplicably that will be spent at the other end of the east lancs road, including plans for a 100,000 capacity stadium on the existing old toilet, they want it to be bigger than Wembley which is the national stadium, there number one transfer target besides Bellingham this summer will be the centre forward who destroyed us in Naples early last year, if people think nunez and haaland are colossal then he is another monster! and posters know on here who they want to replace slab head with Gvardiol!

The resurgence of man utd will have a bigger impact on man city than us as city only have a home average attendance of circa 50 thou, that means when man utd have there new stadium built from our arab oil money, they will have twice the home revenue that city can generate or anyone the World included, they are only going to get bigger and more successful over the years and will sadly race past our current record trophy haul!

FSG have certainly got a lot to answer not only currently, but in the many, many decades to follow, as man utd shove everyone's faces into the dirt including Guardiola.

"Thank You" FSG for providing us fans a rosy and prosperous future!


2.) 28 Feb 2023 15:25:27
They will be well into negative territory next year!

FSG will be then "RED" forever!


3.) 28 Feb 2023 15:38:22
Why is it inexplicable if this were to happen at United? They are a bigger club than us anyway.
It might mean Weghorst and Eriksen become available though.


4.) 28 Feb 2023 15:52:40
Lol, Rigsby.


5.) 28 Feb 2023 15:57:27
You guys do realise that figure you are going on about is profit before tax AKA the higher they declare that number to be, the more tax they have to pay. They use accounting methods to get that figure as low as possible. There is absolutely nothing to worry about.


6.) 28 Feb 2023 16:25:39
If any of what 007’s post says happens it may well be the death of football in England. Both Manchester clubs seem to be dragging the sport through the mud constantly whilst both sets of manc fans continue to have very little knowledge football. I wouldn’t mind leaving England for another league and leave the London and Manchester clubs to their own rot.


7.) 28 Feb 2023 16:34:28
United are on their way back and it's somehow down to FSG?
Liquid lunches clearly don't agree with some.


8.) 28 Feb 2023 16:53:40
Well done 007, you've destroyed my day. But as extraordinary as your imagination is, it's not a sinnario that is out of the question. It's going to be a big summer for the club, the owners and the manager.


9.) 28 Feb 2023 16:54:28
Did you even believe that when you wrote it Babbity? Because obviously there would have been no external independent audit done on those numbers will there. Talk about naive.

{Ed002's Note - It is absolute nonsense.}


10.) 28 Feb 2023 17:17:11
Flash, There is a reason why Ed02 said on here years ago that we don't discuss money topics on this forum. This is what conversations can lead to. I personally could not be arsed about such nonsense BUT it is funny how a lot of LFC's fans have turned into armchair accountants and money managers since FSG showed up.


11.) 28 Feb 2023 17:45:00
As long as it doesn’t effect ticket prices or merchandise then it is what it is for me.

Because as more money seems to come into football the cost of being a fan seems to be at the bottom of every club and players agenda.


12.) 28 Feb 2023 17:47:26
Ed002 and johnny it is not nonsense at all. All companies use accounting methods on their financial statements in order to get the best result for them. There is no one way to account your financial results. In the case of Liverpool, they are not a plc and not paying dividends, therefore they are not trying to impress shareholders with high returns. Trying to get as high a profit figure as possible is pointless as you only lose more of it in tax. You can choose to disclose certain costs in particular years for example. What you can't do is change the way you value your assets every single year and you can't mix and match different accounting methods to different assets. You have to apply the same accounting methods universally. Auditors know this. What they are looking for is discrepancies in accounting methods used, false information being input, the withholding of information, whether the data matches the time period, etc.

But what do I know about accounting? I only studied it for five years at university and do it full-time as a career. I suppose I have to yet again bow to the keyboard oracle of all knowledge yet again.


13.) 28 Feb 2023 17:56:29
It’s nearly like posters turning into armchairs managers Oli. Do you ever make any comment on that ?.
Personally if someone wants to talk about money, that’s up to them. If they’re talking nonsense I’m sure Ed002 will put him right if he’s bothered.

As for Flash, well I’m waiting for the day he actually posts something constructive, instead of snide remarks. ?.


14.) 28 Feb 2023 18:11:24
Babbity, I'm also an accountant and have worked in Banking for 35 long years. What your proposing there is essentially tax evasion, I can only assume your employers are happy to promote dishonest accounting.


15.) 28 Feb 2023 18:33:10
Perhaps we should talk about Edwards some more and why he gave Hendo his new contract. As that definitely doesn’t come under the banner of armchair accountant.


16.) 28 Feb 2023 18:48:37
Big thing to come out of all this is the rise in wages which has led operating expenses to rise dramatically - definitely something that needs addressed, whilst star players invariably warrant more wages, I just feel over the last number of years too many players have received bumper contracts, leading our wage bill to be very high in comparison to others

Whilst the likes of Edwards and Ward received plaudits for transfers negotiated, I think contracts fell under their remit too, so perhaps not all positive with that respect concerned?

Can certainly be addressed with outgoings and not giving injury prone players bumper new contracts, but shaping up to be an interesting summer coming up.


17.) 28 Feb 2023 19:05:36
Hello Babbity Rabbity, The above plc format in your post stands for Private Limited Company as you suggest! and is not to be misinterpreted as a public limited company as you state which we are not.

As you correctly state they are not "publicly" traded on Stock Exchange Listings. Babbity did you go to a nice university?

P. S. How can I Fiddle my tax and don't say on a Violin!
is it also true also that the constipated accountant worked it out with a pencil?

Flash the Redbellend! i have a liquid lunch every day in Weatherspoons in Great Charlotte Street, Liverpool L1 1HU, the aperitif i have is flash the red wine! wine and "WHINER" comes to mind i wonder why!


18.) 28 Feb 2023 19:16:15
I agree Irish. There’s a collective of posters on here that gang up others who want to post something.
I like to hear other peoples views, even if it differs to my own. Not necessarily Babbity because it doesn’t bother the regulars.
But the same few (we all know who) shooting down any new comers etc putting off others that might want to post.
And they get away with it because every other post they type is just copying what the Ed’s say. Stop Toxic Bullying any new recruits to the website.


19.) 28 Feb 2023 19:31:41
I too am a chartered accountant and CFO for a group of companies that are audited. There is some truth in what babbity has said Johnny. There is a very clear line between tax evasion and tax avoidance (or planning as they like to call it these days) . Avoidance is the legitimate use of loopholes to reduce the tax bill and also as a Ltd company they have no real motivation to ‘let profits rip’. Whenever we are doing due diligence on a company I always generally ignore the profit and loss somewhat as everything you need to know about a company is in the balance sheet …. As you can’t manipulate or hide things there! Auditors focus on the balance sheet more than any other area in their audit for this very reason.

There is good info to take from the p&l though and I had suspected that wages and associated costs were getting out of control as we have a bloated squad with several players not playing regularly on big wages. This is what Klopp was on about when saying you can’t just bring 4 new players in without knowing who will leave.

The accounts aren’t available on companies house so not looked yet but should be interesting. I’m interested in what the net debt has done over the past 12 months!


20.) 28 Feb 2023 19:38:08
Gee, this is so colorful. ?

Can we all come to the conclusion that we will never all agree on anything?

So let's go back to football. If I see Keita, Hendo and Milner as the starting midfield again tomorrow night, I will tear my hair out (the little that has been spared by my wife) .


21.) 28 Feb 2023 19:48:05
Turns out we do actually have a few accountants on the group then ?.

Aray those 3 won’t start tomorrow night as Klopp will be resting them ready to start v Utd on Sunday ?.


22.) 28 Feb 2023 20:03:37
Tom- you stole my avoidance/ evasion lesson I was going to give as another fellow accountant…. we’re an exciting bunch ….


23.) 28 Feb 2023 20:06:49
JK, you're always one step ahead of me. ? And it looks like very shrewd thinking by Klopp, too. ?.


24.) 28 Feb 2023 20:18:00
JB12, I'd say that you're more of an "excited" bunch. Amazing how so many suddenly came out of the woodworks, the moment "annual accounts" were announced, LOL. ?.


25.) 28 Feb 2023 20:36:15
I get what you boys are saying but what are Klopp’s options? Not a great deal really, Bajatic starts maybe but who with ?‍♂️. Reality is that it’s a sh#t show at the minute and no other midfielder actually warrants a spot. Depressing?.


26.) 28 Feb 2023 20:38:02
I could have been an accountant but I'm far too interesting. I leave all my bookeeping to my accountant and all my bookmaking to Betfair. My accountant is not too bad really and has worked for both Lester Piggott and Ken Dodd, so he knows what he's doing.


27.) 28 Feb 2023 20:40:17
Aray I reckon

Hendo, Fab and Baj

Salah, Bobby and Nunez.


28.) 28 Feb 2023 21:03:04
Hello Babbity Rabbity, tom27 and JB12,

They reckon accountants are the best lovers, because they are great with figures!

Adam was the first accountant to make an entry? then lost interest after a withdrawal!


29.) 28 Feb 2023 21:11:31
Apologies for missing out johnnyr1970 from the above accountants team.

We could have a "WHIP" round for FSG, twenty lashes each sounds good to me!


30.) 28 Feb 2023 21:22:28
Haha I can’t help myself it’s the accounting geek in me that comes out! Also one of the very rare occasions that finances get discussed on here! It’s a shame they can’t be and people who have no interest can’t just scroll passed it but there you go.

I wouldn’t say ‘Come out the woodwork’ I’ve been on here for years and post occasionally …. Christ I was 27 when I signed up!

007 haha accountant jokes …. Keep them coming!


31.) 28 Feb 2023 21:49:01
Aray my friend. Please stop causing a divide on here between accountants and non accountants please.


32.) 28 Feb 2023 22:15:43
@Tom27 I fully appreciate there is a difference between evasion and avoidance but the inference in Babbity’s post was such that one would feel we have gazillions squirrelled away somewhere ‘hidden’ from the view of HMRC/ Auditors/ UEFA when the reality is likely somewhat different.


33.) 28 Feb 2023 22:27:52
Correct, JK.
That's why we don't discuss football on the finances section.


34.) 28 Feb 2023 23:00:50
Rigsby that actually made me lol ?.


35.) 01 Mar 2023 05:12:15
JK, I agree with the Fabinho and Bajcetic part. Not sure about the Hendo inclusion; he's been playing in a lot of games lately.

And kindly note that non-accountants have a right to express their opinions on annual accounts too, you know. ?.


36.) 01 Mar 2023 07:45:50
Aray I wasn’t going to include Hendo but I looked at the available squad and couldn’t see another option. The closest was Elliot but would Klopp start him and Baj and after a bright 5 mins on Sat night he then went on to pass the ball to a Palace player everytime for the next 40.

It really showed how bad the options currently are at the mo.

But how this season is going would anyone be surprised to see Naby start. I know I wouldn’t be.


37.) 01 Mar 2023 10:31:45
The Irish Rover, learn how to read. Where did I say people should not talk about finances or whatever else in my post? I made a tongue in cheek comment about how a lot of our fans not just on here but on SM, have become bean counters since FSG came about which to me seems weird. That's my opinion and here you are getting on your soapbox lecturing about things we already know about and what our right are on this forum. Whind your neck in and take a day off, bro. You ain't that special so get over yourself.

I and anyone else on here, am free to say whatever I want about whatever they want provided I do it respectfully and nobody cares about your soapbox lectures reminding me about what I already know about. Again, get over yourself.


 

 

 

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I can see why a 27 year old player could be tempted by Barcelona. I have no idea why they might be tempted to go and semi-retire in the Middle East.

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28 Feb 2024 12:37:18
Why is the subject of players (potentially) leaving so emotive. Did I not say that Robbo has been a legend for the club? Every player has a price, it's called being realistic. The discussion isn't about Mo, VVD or Alison so why bring them up? Jeez.

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28 Feb 2024 11:03:58
Robbo has been a legend for us but - putting sentiment to one side - he's 30 in a few days, if BM offer us a decent fee for him then I'd take it. I've been impressed with Gomez playing LB and we have Tsimikas as well. Players are transient.

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Any idea why it's proving so hard to fill this role Ed002? You could argue that Liverpool are amongst the top 10 football clubs in the world, you'd think they'd be queuing up for the post?

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Not sure Salah would want to go to the Saudi retirement home. Lots of 'noise' out of there recently about how rubbish it is for the players. I get the money is vast but surely elite players want to play in front of actual crowds and the chance to win something that actually has kudos.

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Babbitty, Drogba’s scoring record in his first stint at Chelsea is one goal for every two games played. That’s pretty good IMO.

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He's doing brilliantly so far from what I've seen. Arguably better than Matip yet still only 21. Keep it up Jarell and keep learning from the master alongside you.

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I think the dedicated DM position is something we need to address for next season. Endo has been fantastic but he's the wrong side of 30 to be a long term solution and I just have a slight doubt about it being MacAllister's best position. However it's hard to complain when you're top of the league so don't take this as a moan!

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