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20 May 2012 00:44:19
anyone else notice torres bottle taking a penalty?
then had the audacity to dance around like he had just won the cup for chelsea.
he is a whining selfish ?????
well done chelsea was really happy for RDM.
As some have said on here puts AVB tenure into perspective if he hadnt alienated the chelsea pensioners
20 May 2012 00:41:32
Torres's first full season and he has won a double = FA Cup/Champions League
I think it's fair to say he made the right decision
Still gutted he left us though........
20 May 2012 00:31:24
Sorry not a rumour, just had to get this out there. If anybody now asks if Torres is coming back to Liverpool is truly an idiot.
NGF1
20 May 2012 00:31:12
Maybe, just maybe FSG are much smarter then we think. Martinez, Rodgers with all due respect to them, were bound to be rejected by majority of fans, not down to potential or style, but simply that they are not proven ?
Maybe, just maybe FSG know that Rafa divides the fans so him ahead of less experienced candidates seems like a blessing ?
Maybe, just maybe FSG people are reading this and thinking the plan was that AVB would look like a blessing ?
The old smokescreen theory
Maybe, just maybe I've had too many bevvies tonight.
20 May 2012 00:28:08
All these rafa bashers why not mention who you would rather have over benitez keeping in mind the ones who have rejected us or are totally out of our reach i.e klopp e.t.c because with the likes of martinez we will be battling relegation.
IBIMO
P.S if martinez does get the job or whoever i will back them 100% even in the championship.... although it will never happen.
{Ed001's Note - Borrell. If the alternative is Rafa, I would rather give the job to me mam, at least she won't wash the club's dirty linen in public.}
20 May 2012 00:26:12
Several papers saying FSG to interview AVB. express says 'liverpool to give kop job to villas-boas' what u reckon eds?
20 May 2012 00:24:03
well done ed 002 have a good 1
loui D
20 May 2012 00:19:03
Macca how would the playing staff feel bout Rafa returning?
20 May 2012 00:17:53
Missing Person
last seen in the penalty box during a corner in the vincinity of Didier Drogba
Any leads, contact FC Bayern Munich
20 May 2012 00:17:04
Congrats Ed002
20 May 2012 00:17:00
Not a rumour when Torres left it made me feel sick like I been cheated on worse lol ! But watching him tonite running around with hie chelsea scarf round his head I hope people think long and hard players managers come and go sum deserve are love support for life sum don't if they give 110% for the club don't harm the club ( mean to) then great the point is the most important thing is the club no matter who is captain ov the ship legends will all ways be legands gods will be gods and kings will be kings and backstabbing will always be a backstabber keep your medals and I'll keep my pride rough with the smooth . Lfc linc YNWA kk all lfc
20 May 2012 00:06:41
Congrats to any/all Chelsea supporters. Ed002?
Also, I'd just like to say that all tonight does is make me wish Liverpool were back as a team to do this sort of thing. When we last won the UCL I was too young (I'm 19 now) to really understand what it was and how big it was to win it, and I'd love for us to win it now so I could celebrate it properly. I really do hope FSG appoint a decent manager to push us up into top 4 and return us to a top flight club.
Come on Liverpool!
Thanks, Ell.
That isn't too young at all.
20 May 2012 00:02:00
Forget Torres, is he much happier gettin 5 mins? Bertrand in front of him? He could have been a legend! Now he's a spare part. We need to concentrate on the future, and that includes not going back to the past with rafa or a manager who's turned a relegation team to a medium table club! We need someone young and bold, someone who always plays for the win
19 May 2012 23:59:25
Tonight's win is good for us
1 straight in group stage of Europa league, no qualifiers in august.
2 stopped bayern equaling our 5 times.
3 stopped the spuds qualifying & consolidating their standing. Bye bye modric & bale.
4 shallow win for bit parts Torres & merieles.
So well done Chelsea
Jimbob
19 May 2012 23:59:18
Well done David price YNWA lfc linc
19 May 2012 23:56:51
Now that Chelsea won the CL, Di Matteo should be confirmed at Chelsea for next season. That should close the door for Capello and perhaps FSG could now make serious move for him. I think he would be a good appointment for us flanked with a young coaching team Borrell & Carragher. We can give him a 3 year contract and then promote Borrell and Carragher in 3 years time.
19 May 2012 23:55:35
i wonder if its possible we could offload Joe Cole back to the 'Ammers
19 May 2012 23:47:00
So Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal are automatically through to the group stages of UEFA Champions League. Are Chelsea through to the group stages or will they have to go through the qualifying rounds?
So Liverpool and Tottenham go through to the group stages of the UEFA Europa League yes? Who else qualifies?
The Third Wise-man YNWA
Chelski automatically through to the group stages as well.
19 May 2012 23:46:23
same feeling macca....we need rafa bck and need CL
19 May 2012 23:45:42
poor auld 'Arry
No England Job
No Champions League
Thats cold....we may aswell recruit him for liverpool hel have a better future
19 May 2012 23:42:58
The Chelsea win, sort of puts AVB tenure a little more into perspective. I could see what he was trying to achieve but alienating his older, most experienced players cost him. Yes long term that may have been the better move, but short term it was managerial suicide.
Perhaps we're a club waiting to move forward with a new era and a younger crop of players coming through, but that decision makes me worried, if he joined us.
Papa G
If it meant that our long term success is more likely then its worth it. Chelsea might have their first Champs league trophy but Di Matteo has set their long term furture back a year by not giving the likes of Lukkaku more playing time.
I would welcome AVB, not my first choice but given time he would be an astute manager. You dont acheive what he did at porto without being good at your job.
Nevada
19 May 2012 23:26:23
EDS, This one is for you, what beef has Mcmannaman got with LFC? He is so negative towards the club even when he's on TV he is putting us down he's such a prat. Anyway whoever the club bring in it has to be a manager that can attract decent players. FSG need to put their money where their mouth is, because I truly believe if we don't spend big we are doomed to mid table mediocracey.
Elmo96
LFC Forever {Ed001's Note - he did dump the club for money, what do you expect?}
Lfc tried to sell him to barcelona , when he did not want to go because his mum was very ill , he looked at that and used it to his advantage , if you ever meet the man , he is a good egg.
When there was speculation about owen leaving Macca was quoted in spanish press as saying that liverpool "are just a feeder club." So its not the first time he's took a swipe at us.
Nevada
19 May 2012 23:39:21
All those who said atleast we were playing good attractive football, look where it got us, 8th. Look where iit got Chelsea playing the dullest football I've seen for ages. Should have been Beaten by napoli barcelona bayern and us in the fa cup. we all would love to win all competitions playing the barca way but at the end of the day it's about having the trophy in your hand at the end. Rafa may have made us play some boring stuff sometimes but we also played some good football with him. Oh and look where it gets arsenal and spurs. So all those who don't want rafa coz of the football we played under him, just think about those Chelsea fans tonight , are they they going to moan about the football they played? MrT
19 May 2012 23:37:41
Well done Chelsea.
This must be the first time Torres has not regretted leaving Liverpool!!
It's gota be a good omen for the Euros, we beat the Germans on Penalties!!
So, come on Liverpool. Let's get a good manager, some good players and get back to enjoying nights like tonight again for ourselves!!
DeV
19 May 2012 23:34:49
Hi eds didnt post in a while cause of total and utter dispointment ,congrats to chelsea on there win tonight .My reason tonight for posting is a lot of fellas on talkin bout junior hoillet ,matt jarvis and a few more bein good buys for club ,we need serious talent not fellas from mid table or clubs gone down .We have to pay big money to play with the big boys and before anyone talks about newcastle thats after only one unreal season in which the team above them in league didnt make cl .We are at a crossroads as a club invest serious money [prob in region of 100 mil ] in close season or else as a club we get used to thurs nite football for years to come .RED2TOE.ps eds im ploughed [.>
19 May 2012 23:34:00
If rafa comes back do you reckon so will Torres?
Torres would never ever play for Liverpool whilst Gerrard and Carragher are there.
Stop living in the past
19 May 2012 23:28:07
No doubt Shed End and Melbourne will be on here gloating on a " famous chelsea win ' but lets have it right they have been rubbish in the semis and final and tonight proved football is the loser! Chelsea rode their luck like no other team ive ever seen in this competition and yet they've won the champs league. How many million has it took for that sly russian to land this cup and in the end its been through pure luck! I dont send any congratulations to chavski or their flag waving " fans ". Hard luck spurs you deserved to be in the champs league but you've been robbed by a buch of bunch of conmen.
There was a little luck involved sure but you cant take all of that away from them. the players still showed up to play. and by the way i despise chelsea
Totally agree. I have never liked the soulless Chavs.
Red Owl
19 May 2012 23:27:00
Congrats to Chelsea and 2nd thing I have doubts about fsg I don't think they even know a b c d of football. This is really bad Liverpool is in trouble at the moment. Fsg needs to invest heavy so that we can achieve champions league. Man city didn't hv champions league but they did buy players by paying ridiculous money for them we need something like that. We have a history come on fsg we need money to invest b4 it's too late.
Gr8 1
19 May 2012 23:25:31
Can we please shortlish di matteo aswell he will do for lfc!
If he can get the players on his side he will be good , just look at how even ashley cole liked him.
19 May 2012 23:24:38
Its a funny old world. If FSG were in charge of Spurs would they sack Harry now? LFC's season has turned out to be better than spurs's; 1 cup won, final of another and straight into the Europa cup. Spurs on the other hand have no cups and have some Europa cup qualifiers to get through. A very weird ending to a very strange season. Congrats to Ed002. Onwards and upwards for LFC. Reality Red
19 May 2012 23:24:09
Macca,
Rafa back? let me think. Home/Away Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille away all those wonderful European nights. YES YES YES any chance though?
I think rafa is a good choice , he has had time to reflect and he his young enough to work for us for the necessary length of time , he did have an eye for a top player and the problem he had was he tried too many players ok he moved them on when things did not work out but if he comes he needs to set his sites on a few fab players and needs fsg on his side from day one.
19 May 2012 23:23:57
did Gomez look like a 30 - 35 million euro player
tonite?
Gomez makes carroll look good. red mick tag
19 May 2012 23:20:56
Harry redknapp now anyone? Would he consider one last big job!
19 May 2012 23:20:15
I think we should get a manger who if a player under performers he's dropped the next game, we've spent big on players like downing carroll who have consistently under performed why can't we start players like sterling/suso ..... Get rid of Adam,spearing not Liverpool quality...A fit Lucas will be a much needed bonus next season.
19 May 2012 23:16:11
I may get abused for this but..
Is it just me, does that make you want Rafa back..
Cheers
Macca
All day long Macca. Will we enjoy those nights we took for granted a few years back? Any updates Macca?
If only the cowboys had backed Rafa...I believe the owners need to back any manager who comes in with a sizeable transfer kitty and I'm sure we'll be back in the Champions League in a year or two..
YNWA
Red PG
Agreed,
Curled1
No, it's not just you mate ... Macca, any news on return of La Rafalucion? Has FSG approached him officially?
Barnes' Left foot
Agree with u macca. Need him back. Could u pls tell us some possible candidates name please
I feel you macca but let me introduce another angle not looked at before.
When rafa took over, we were set for champions league, we were regulars. Right now, he'll have to catapult us to top four just to get into it. Does he have what it takes? Probably does but could backfire, we went to someone from the past and that didnt help :/
One things for sure, I miss these nights a hell of a lot :(
Lets hope we fill the DOF role with an experienced person and a manager who will work for us (whoever that may be) and that Duarez and Carroll shoot on all cylinders next season.
Cheers for the information even though you might be off the mark at times. Youre a top guy (Y)
RedSox69
I don't understand? :S
No its not just you unfortunately their are many other liverfools which only remember the good time where as i, i remember him losing the league through poor tactics and squad rotations and making and spending an awful amount on players which were not upto scratch even though many will say he wasn't backed. And the complete tool that he was alienating the better players making them leave such as alonso which many fans seem to ignore. stuart
I wasn't in favour at first Macca but this past few days have pushed him way up my wishlist.
Red Derry.
I am not an admirer of that game at all but again tonight i have seen it work when i thought it wouldnt. still wouldnt want to play like that though.
KevtheRed~
NO Klopp no pep no jose no bielsa if everyones a no go id say get benitez in and fast these owners seem very different in a good way than hicks & gillet and IF they can provide financial backing then rafa will identify the talent. there were too many talented players denied to rafa due to funds sometimes it was as little as a couple of milllion, people talk about his bad signings apart from aqualani who imo is a quality player the rest were relatively cheap or free transfers thats the kind of budget he had, he is also the one responsible for the academy although borrell has done very well to maintain it. Fresh start would be nice but if you cant get the best right now then you get the next best thing and i dont think martinez, rogers etc are the next best thing.
IBIMO {Ed001's Note - he is responsible for the academy, in that he brought in Borrell and Pep Segura mate.}
Also i would rather watch hell freeze over than watch his boring football and mindless tactics and squad rotations all over again.stuart
Macca mate, I just hope FSG listen to the likes of you and me......
I am not pro rafa but it has crossed my mind, and I would not be surprised if a lot have felt that way, we are only human, and different feelings will overwhelm you, especially all pool fans at the moment are vulnerable at the minute.
hibsylfc
Just you, that was the worst team I've seen win that comp, long balls time wasting at 0 0 10 men in there own box, never seen so much luck for one side.
Well done to chelsea and enjoy ed002 , but macca , will we ever get back up there , shows you how great a manager rafa was mate ,i would love to see him back...............lfc
Macca thought the same. I continue to keep the faith. The fact that who will be our new manager is the biggest story out there shows the magnitude of the Job. Becoming manager of the 5 times european champions. Restoring us to the top table. I have a real feeling we are going to make the right decision YNWA
Have you thought that maybe Rafa was ahead of the curve as far as our progression as a club. Reality is that we can only pay 2nd tier wages and need to work to a model that relies upon producing our own talent and buying young players with potential. He also knew the FACT that the domestic cups would be deemed worthless. Sad, I know but football has changed forever. I know he bought some tripe and paid too much at times but he also bought some great players and to his credit he restructured the academy - the current coaches wouldn't be their but for Rafa. I think I'm turning towards Rafa. He will have to work within a new structure that will keep him away from the power struggles that shouldn't have been his remit so he will be concentrating on football ????
Red Derry
The owners backed kenny but the players kenny got let him down .
the new manager needs to get rid of the flops and get his lads in and we need to support them as always.
we have made mistakes over the last twenty years the lessons must have been learnt by now , good players win second rate players do not , but good managers work miracles with ordinary players , thats why we won in istanbul.
ynwa red mick tag
No I don't want rafa back. I wanted Kenny to stay. Now I want klopp to come. Not happening. I've given up and just hope the owners are smart.
AnfieldUSA
19 May 2012 23:14:03
Congrats to Chelsea but the worst team won. Definitely won with luck on their side...cos the football they played....oh sorry, they didn't play!
Im a red mate dont be so bitter. We did the same in 2005
Well Liverpool have won like that to many time pot kettle black comes to mind. Sour grapes and jealous, typical Liverpool fan. At least they got there
U mugs ain't liverpool fans, we have played defensive football in the past but never played as bad as that, with a formation of 10-0-0 throughout the whole know out stages. Rafa played defensive but never parked the bus. Since the Napoli, Chelsea have been the worst team I have seen play in the tournament for years and yet still won. Great day for Chelsea, bad day for football in general!
And as for the alleged Liverpool supported referring to 2005, no we didnt play like that. First half we got battered, second half, we battered them and won on penalties, hence it was th greatest final ever. In tonight's game, before Chelsea scored, they had no shots on goal and no corners. BM on the other hand, had 24 shots and 16 corners with more possession. In the end, chelseas equaliser came from a corner - their one and only attempt in that game upto that point! So no, we didn't do the same thing in 2005....mug!!
19 May 2012 23:13:23
does this mean Torres won't be coming back? :(
A.Optimist
19 May 2012 23:12:24
What's all this well done Chelsea nonsense. Have a word.
Ozone
19 May 2012 23:11:01
So Ed's, this bloke Torres (FA Cup & CL winner), the one posters keep going on about wanting to come back to LFC, do you think he still wants to come back now?
dmedly :)
19 May 2012 23:10:22
Ed does chelsea winning mean anything different for liverpool ie going straight into group stages of the europa league?
Frog {Ed001's Note - yes, it means we get their place and don't have to go through so many qualifying rounds.}
Out of curiosity do spurs go into our early qualifying spot?
salt in the wound and all that...
19 May 2012 23:05:05
I miss those night of champions league football we had under RAFA,the atmosphere in anfield on european night was just amazing,I feel jeolous today that chelsea won European cup and we are nowhere near compiting in great league!
I'm sure Torres with his FA cup and CL Medal he can justify his move?
I just hope that I see CL football back at my lovely club and we can do that by hiring a good manager in RAFA,I read people say about his buys,well whoever he bought wether good or bad was due to funds available to him,the guy has so much knowldge in football,yes he failed at inter but that doesn't mean he is bad?
Bring rafa back and support him on his transfer policy with funds,believe me he can attract people even without champions league football,people say his football was poor?under mourinho chelsea played very defensive and they still won PL,I'm sure their fans won't mind having him back
And just a quick point,when AVB got sacked,I'm sure Rafa was aproached to manage chelsea on short term,he didn't accept is this a indication that he had talk with owners that he will take over from KD at the end of season? Let's hope BRING BACK RAFA BENITEZ....!!
19 May 2012 23:03:27
Eds what are your opinions on Michael Laudrup and what are the chances of us getting him?
Cheers. {Ed001's Note - my opinion is that he plays exciting, attacking football, something I enjoy watching. He is available, supports Liverpool and is interested in the job. The question is whether or not FSG want to give him it or give it to someone else.}
He's won nothing in any league that matters and now everyones now hoping laudrup gets the job, plays exciting football - keeping getafe from relegation sounds like martinez to me you gotta face facts the only one who could do it and wants to do the job is raffa, suddenly we realise we're not the hot property we thought we were!!
19 May 2012 23:02:19
ed. will avb get a champions leauge medal as he was the manager in the champions leauge for them.
{Ed002's Note - He does.}
So if we get him we get a CL Winning manager.... thats kind of cool ;) JLFC
19 May 2012 22:59:59
So Torres left to win medals, got two this year. LFC sit in a 'state of turmoil', all rather ironic is it not!!.
That is not irony - It would have been ironic if we had won trophies and Chelsea had not. As it is, it's good judgement on his part...although his contribution to winning the trophies was non existent.
Luke
19 may 2012 22:58:04
id rather have bruce grobbelar or john barnes than avb or martinez.
uncle zainy bear.
Well luckily for us you're not making the decisions!
19 May 2012 22:56:55
Im really hoping we dont see Di Matteo for Liverpool anytime soon, bare in mind that hes done so well there because of his bond with the club and the players, he must be getting the job there.
Anfield Andy
19 May 2012 22:56:49
Congrats to Chelsea and I bet Ed002 is buzzing, she will prob be on a 3 day bender, ha
I just hope everyone connected with our club, from players to staff, to management, to top level execs are watching that, and I hope there is a burning passion to do whatever it takes, pay whatever/whoever we have to both for players and managers to bring us glory days like that...
And before we get the usual negative people (to be polite) Chelsea were as far away from winning it as anyone at one point this season...
I hope we make the right decisions soon...
Cheers
Ray
19 May 2012 22:10:29
hey eds 3 questions- 1. how do you reckon our new manager will be ( could be our assistint manager) . 2. will luis suarez (legend) leave . 3. who could join us or will it depend on our new manager . thanks {Ed002's Note - ?; Yes; We can only wait right now.}
Why the hell did we stick by Suarez all season for him to dump us at the first opportunity
19 May 2012 22:45:48
I suppose the embarrassing thing about tonight being a Man Utd fan is a small club with no history are only two European cups behind you.
Mighty reds
19 May 2012 22:42:00
How do we now appoint AVB when look what RDM has achieved with same squad..FSG have one tuff decesion to make.
Red indian
Kenny got sacked for not finishing 4th, 4th wouldn't have got us in the european cup anyway
Bobbinred
No so called players ie terry lampard drogba cole influenced the dressing room got not only avb sacked but also big phil!and whos to say they wont do again!there far from european champions
They've parked the bus and stumbled across the line. I don't want to see that at Anfield.
Ozone
He has had more luck than AVB!
Chelsea was still in THREE comps when Roberto took over.
RDM was a team mate of JT et al, as was first team coach Eddie Newton, so the team probabbly had a lot more respet for him than a "blow-in" like AVB
I hav'nt made my mind up about AVB, but one thing is for sure he never had the dressing room at Chelsea. He was on a hiding to nothing.
KNEE JERK
19 May 2012 22:40:27
Even if Kenny had performed a miracle and got us 4th spot this season, we still wouldn't have qualified for the CL after tonight! It's a funny old game.
19 May 2012 22:39:27
that has to be one of the worse games i have ever watched!and if ayone trys to tell me they r the best team in europe well u need to go to a secure ward!it makes me laugh listening to these pundits they are just so biased!and for a player who has cheated dived and been one of the reasons a manager got sacked bein defended and talked about like a real player it makes me not want to watch footie!but get real european champions it just makes me laugh!
That goes to prove pass and move dosn't
always win cups. Chelsea have won FA cup and European cup with good old fashioned defensive football.....Well done Chelsea, kings of Europe.
Bobbinred
19 May 2012 22:34:46
Congrats to Chelsea (and to Ed002!).
Fortune favors the brave.
19 May 2012 22:34:21
Chelseas. Name was written like ours was in 2005.
Good job chelsea..
Bad news spurs.
Good news for us we now don't have to play in earlier rounds of europa league good news for new manager.
Again congratulations to ed002,chelsea fc and their fans.
Red indian
And most of Spur's squad will do one now AND all the olidies at Chelsea will overstay their welcome ( fair play tonight but can you see most of their squad getting turfed like Rafa did after Istanbul) AND Bayern didn't reach 5 cups. So excellent all round.
Nope they got off big time in the final.
19 May 2012 22:32:58
Torres left us won 2 silverware if he would have stated with us would have won the carling cup did he make the right decision to leave us in terms of his career he definitely did I really hate him but have to admit he had the last laugh
Did he contribute much to the 2 trophys? hardly I don't know how he has the balls to celebrate.
That being said am happy for him that he's got some winners medals because of the tremendous service he gave us.
Tom.
If torres had stayed maybe he would of scored the goal to win fa cup and challenge for top 4 etc etc its all ifs and buts.so if he is happy to be a sub every game and contribute very little yet win a medal then fair play laugh away
A pro's aim is to play in finals not watch from the sidelines. He will be far from happy with his season.
Last laugh jesus lad you are soft lad
19 May 2012 22:32:43
At least no one can complain about us not getting fourth now, wouldn't have been worth it. Well done Chelsea
Still a few quid more if we were in 4th.
19 May 2012 22:32:24
Welcome to a very special and elite GROUP.
European Champions, Chelsea FC.
Congratulations.
Lee YNWA
Ha your joking right chavski aint in an elite group theyre a one off fluckey bunch
19 May 2012 22:31:33
I heard Chelsea won the cup.
Fair play to them, went down to the nerve.
If Roman doesn't sign Drogba back up on a two year contract then that guy seriously has no soul.
19 May 2012 22:25:10
After reading a lot of posts on here i feel its time i chipped in with my thoughts.
All these reports of whos on the short list, whos turned us down are generated by the press to get attention, nothing more. FSG are doing what any company would do when looking for a high profile job, headhunting people who might be interested in the job then interviewing who they seem fit for purpose.
My opinion would be to go forward and not look to the past (something we as liverpool fans seem hard to do), people like Rafa had is time but its time we looked to the future. What we need is a manager who is going to come in for the long term and get us playing an attractive style of winning football. Who ever gets the job though i will support them as i have always have, im Liverpool through and through.
Lets hope for a good ending to the summers dramas!
Goobz
How can someone come in for the long tram if they are going to be sacked for coming 8th?
Nick
Tonight proved playing good attractive football dosen't always win trophies. barcelona plays attractive football but lost out in the Spanish league and the CL cup
Bobbinred
19 May 2012 22:22:59
Ed's, do you agree Brendan Rogers should not be manager, because he's named Brendan?
19 May 2012 22:22:16
Robben and ribbary are disgrace anyone who watches german league regularly knows they like to hog the limelight and they both are not team players and agin on a occassion as champions league final they continue with same.
Shamefull
Red indian
19 May 2012 22:19:21
Chelsea are the luckiest team around, they've fluked their way to the final and have fluked extra time. they'll probably fluke the shoot out aswell.
19 May 2012 22:03:42
Telegraph article saying Giroud and Kagawa were priority signings, and we were in a strong position for some deals in March. We need to act fast but decisively in our next important moves
RedSG
19 May 2012 22:08:07
There are some people who chat some rubbish on here. Appointment needs to be made fast to ensure we get players before euros and their price rockets, the likes of luuk de Jong etc should be sought after now we always seem to lose out to average European teams because we leave it to late, to be honest I'm not to bothered what papers say fsg could not be this stupid the amount of negativity towards our club had been unreal they havnt made any sort of statement since kenny left apart from Ian ayre being grilled on sky sports who goes will be decided by the manager unless dof is appointed at same time. I'm hoping for rafa he has unfinished business with Liverpool loves the club and has a very good record no matter what anyone says he attracts big players
Toad
19 May 2012 22:07:44
Harry Rednapp must have twitchy pants
Judas Torres Gets a champions League winning medal.
19 May 2012 21:52:34
Quick poll . .
Agree . chelsea fans
Disagree . spurs fans
Who biting their nails the most.
Jus a bit of fun to break things up.
Mr Slonk The Red
YNWA
19 May 2012 21:44:39
heres one for u guys. we are looking for a new striker. why dont we give a go to grant holt. hes an animal. hes big,he can score goals he could be quite cheap. and hes requested a transfer from norwich
Who says we are looking for a new striker? We don't need another striker. Stop being ridiculous and get this idea out of your heads that because it's a transfer window we have to buy players - we don't. Or that players want to come to Liverpool because of the history. Players couldn't give a rats about the history. They go to clubs to make their own history not look at someone elses who they watched on the telly years ago when they were a kid. No good player will move to a club to sit in the subs bench. No young player will stay unless they know they will get a place in the sqaud. We are in a position where not only do we not need to buy anymore senior players we actually need to off-load some so that younger ones can be promoted.
19 May 2012 21:34:47
what are the chances of getting the bayern manager?
S.Indian
He's 67 for God sake...Haven't you been following the type of manager we're looking for...?
19 May 2012 21:32:42
Drogba just scored a great goal for Chelsea, what a player.
Sooty
Think you are on the wrong site mate
So people can't give their opinion if a goal is good or not unless its liverpool f.c have scored it. you moron.
huddz red
19 May 2012 21:29:55
I'm not 100% on who will be the next manager but I do hope the Dalglish brigade and the Benitez brigade can come together and support the new manager.
The last thing we need is a manager who is instantly under pressure without being given a chance from the fans.
I must say that Bayern's stadium is very impressive.
Physic red
Sometimes I think Allianz Arena is the most beautiful stadium ever built. Other times, I think it looks like a giant automobile tire flipped on its side.
JB
I was impressed with their stadium also
gee man {Ed002's Note - It is a real nice place - and different colours at night.}
The color-changing trick might come in handy in Liverpool if there were a ground-share arrangement. Don't hit me. I'm joking . . . sort of.
JB
19 May 2012 21:28:35
Its AVB, Benitez, Klopp, Bielsa or Deschamps for me. Martinez will convery us into a mid table team, the pressure will just be too much for him.
19 May 2012 21:28:05
Just how did we manage to loose FA cup to this awful chelsea team.
Red indian
By playing CRAP.!!
it was a shocking display.
(until andy carrol came on)
UNCLE ZAINY BEAR.
We were even worse.
19 May 2012 21:27:21
How many suggestions for Muller now Ed?..lol
ItsNotRocketScience
19 May 2012 20:56:39
Just a thought eds , when interviewing managers would they be asking about players they would like to bring or could attract , ie AVB = Moutinho , Martinez = err Moses ?
Oh and did AVB inherit a good side at Porto or did he buy players like Falcoa and Hulk ?
Just trying to get some info on who i now see as the front runner
Guinnessred8
They will be asked about our current squad and how can it be improved.
The right candidate should have done his homework on each and every player.
He will have confidence in his current squad and be realistic on targets and why.
Just because they played under them doesn't mean they'd jump at the chance to play for them
19 May 2012 20:48:59
What I remember about rafa is juventus,inter Milan,bayer Leverkusen,Chelsea,arsenal,real Madrid,Barcelona,ac Milan,etc etc. I'm starting singing those were the days my friend we tought they never end!! Thanks Malta.
19 May 2012 20:45:40
Hey guys. Not a rumour, just an opinion.....if we as Liverpool fans aren't careful, we could help destroy our club. I deteste when a manager or player is mentioned or signed and immediately dismissed as good enough for LFC. I like everyone have my own opinions as to who we should try and get as manager and who we should sign. Yes mourinho and messi would be great, but this ain't fantasy football, it's real life. So let's get behind whoevers appointed, get behind the players and help get this great club back to where it belongs. The clues in the word guys SUPPORTers!
Andy
Best post of the day. well said.
YNWA
More posts like this please :)
DaveyLiver
19 May 2012 20:44:19
I'd love for us to copy bayerns stadium as has been previously mentioned, it looks stunning this evening
19 May 2012 20:43:56
Hi Ed, heard the rumours on Air China bid for stadium rights at Stanley Park in the region of 350m, appears a bit steep to me like. You heard anything...? {Ed002's Note - It is a sum that they could build a stadium for and then lease it out for an income.}
19 May 2012 20:40:49
Is Gareth southgate on the shortlist of 12?
Pray he isn't...in fact sacrifice a 1st born!
19 May 2012 20:31:02
Ed 002 was just wondering why u and macca don't see sky sports as being true. Just I heard u calling them sly sports and macca calling them rubbish, would like to hear your answer if u could
CHEERS
Joker {Ed002's Note - I have never called them any such thing. Why this obsession with lying about me?}
It was ED016 who said "Sly Sports"
Ed 002 I'm sorry I taught I heard u call them that but I did read ed 016 call them that today cheers
19 May 2012 20:29:22
was bayerns last final against the mancs? no its not anything to do with liverpool like
No inter i think 3 years ago
It was against Inter last year.
Jose mourinho's inter milan.
19 May 2012 20:26:30
HEY LFC FANS...
its clear as day the onwners have no idea what their doing...
the transfer window is upon us.........
clubs are already now making connections with possible targets
we have no manager
no director of football
no assurances to our existing players
a new list of players will have to be considered to buy
its just all a mess......very sloppy and shows so many weaknesses with our management team.
i agree with some posts....its got to be a bit embarassing
19 May 2012 20:25:38
Andre Villas-Boas will this weekend be interviewed for the vacant managerial post at Liverpool.
I hope he gets the job, we are in need of a young stylish manager
19 May 2012 20:03:48
Regardless of tonights result/previous results, since AVB left chelsea are horrible to watch.
Woolyback andy
Are Chelsea playing? Ive just seen bayern batter a team, wasn't sure who it was as they never got the ball!
Too bad Bayern keep falling over instead of scoring
Do people not like their 9-1-0 formation? I supposed it makes Rafa look exciting.
Tristan
Tristan top post di matteo some years ago was screwed over by football and pledged to destroy it from the inside... i believe they call it antifootball
19 May 2012 19:43:25
Is it just me or is Rafa a completely different manager to how i remember him?
Everyone is asking for him back, now give credit where it is due, we won the Champions league fair enough, we beat West Ham on penaltys in the F.A cup, now if i remember everyone slated Kenny for beating a lower club on penalty's but Rafa is a genius for it?!?!?
We finished second in the league, because we drew games at home against the likes of Fulham, West Ham e.t.c because he would play 10 Defensive players and one striker.
The signings is up in the air for everyone, yes he did buy well and also did buy poor, same as every manager, that is not the problem for me... the problem is subs at 62 minutes no matter what is happening in the game, the boring football, i was at Anfield many a times when we have had to shout "attack attack attack" he upsets the players... takes Torres off at Birmingham when we need a goal with 30 mins left?!?!?!
There is a hell of a lot more i can remember pulling my hair out over, i will never forget the drumming of Real Madrid and the 8-0 over Beskitas and nights like that.
So for me it's a thank you for the memories, but no thanks Rafa
G BOX
We beat West Ham with a Gerard goal, not penalties. Are you a Liverpool supporter ?
Totally agree mate, well said, things are not so good at the club at the minute and so people are only remembering the good times we had with Rafa, they have a memory block of all the games when we used to say "Rafa what the **** are you doing"
Yeah, I also remember thinking that why is he not playing this or that person like beniyon(spelling) and everyone was getting really anoid with him.... And that it took him till his fourth season to actually compete to challenge for the league, with kenny hasnt had. And only won one and drew two more than kenny in his first full season.
Well said mate :) Forward thinking is needed..Also Lol at the first reply..That Stevie G goal was an equaliser you mug..Are you a Liverpool supporter? We won on penalties..You shouldn't be calling people out with wrong information.
DaveyLiver
We beat West Ham on penalties, are YOU a Liverpool fan, Pepe saved 3 pens.
Sooty
Whos the clever fan saying we beat west ham with a gerrard goal? saved in the last seconds with a gerrard goal but couldnt score again and went on to win on pens...loser
To the second poster, we equalised with a gerrard goal and won on penaltys when Antonio Ferdinand missed, I was there!! Are you a Liverpool supporter ?
G BOX
"We beat West Ham with a Gerard goal, not penalties. Are you a Liverpool supporter ?"
No we beat them on pens. Are you a Liverpool supporter?
Are u a Liverpool fan we did beat west ham on pens
Are you a supporter we beat WH on penalty's !!!!!!!!
We equalised with a Gerrard goal, but beat them on penalties!
Are you a LFC supporter?
SA
Anyone who thinks they're going to get a manager where they never think "what the **** are you doing?" is kidding themselves.
We were bemused by Evans' inability to buy a defender. Houllier was Houllier. Hodgson was awful, and a certain segment of the fans wanted rid of Kenny since January. Just like every manager alive signs a bad player, every manager alive makes a few tactical decisions that don't work. Even Fergie tossed away the PL by being too negative against City.
Mourinho is not coming. And even if he was, some of you would probably pull your hair out over some of the things he does. Does anyone not remember Samuel Eto'o playing virtually at right back for Inter in the CL a few times.
Klopp's opted out, and barring a "fantasy football" option like Hiddink or van Gaal wanting in, it's down to Deschamps or Rafa for me.
- Something Red -
The fact you're slamming Evans the man who turned us around after the Souness debacle is worrying.
Evans brought 2 defenders in Scales and Babb and turned us from a midtable side, back into a challenging side.
SA {Ed001's Note - Evans wanted to buy defenders but Moores kept refusing him the money to buy who he wanted.}
When I said "inability to buy a defender", I was using hyperbole to illustrate our weakness was at the back at the time. Would've thought that fairly self-explanatory.
And the intention was to demonstrate that damn near every manager makes a mistake with something, somewhere and that none creates a perfect team with no problems in it anywhere, as a couple of people seem to want, (and use as a reason to dismiss managers they don't want) not to slam Evans. I know exactly what Evans did for us.
- Something Red - {Ed001's Note - except that the issue was not with Evans, it was with Moores.}
19 May 2012 19:36:08
I know this sounds stupid but with all these managers ruling themselves out and some not good enough for us do you think there would be any chance the owners would take kenny back? It sounds daft but could it happen? {Ed002's Note - Not a chance.}
Wishful thinking
If you did something wrong at work and got sacked, would your work take you back!
That's hilarious
Maybe your work wouldnt take you back, but you would hope that they would replace you with someone better and not one who has done a worse job. For example Deschamps in France!
The Irish Rover
Sorry irish rover, have to disagree with you there. You obviously don't follow the french league very closely.
It's only this year that he has gone downhill, due to the ha hmmmm, DOF sticking his nose in and buying substandard young strikers in place of quality proven strikers. Sound familiar.
Yeah get your facts right before you wax lyrical. Look at all his previous efforts.
First season at juventus took them out of serie B as premiers. Went to Marseille in 2009 and in his first year they become premiers for the first time in 18years. Quarter final the following year in CL.
So stop acting like you are ITK, because obviously you know jack s**te!!!
He would be first on my list...
RedHed
@Irish Rover - I just re-read your post. My comment is under the assumption you were slagging Deschamps. If i am wrong, apologies, i misread your quote.
RedHed
What Daglish done in the past didnt save him from the sack.Nor Rafa for that matter, maybe you would take him back? Marseille are 10th in the league, as ive been told the league doesnt lie. As ive also been told several times this year, the buck stops with the manager.
The Irish Rover
19 May 2012 19:35:18
If we get any 1 apart from Martinez think we can attract good players theres not really top class players u can drop from are team apart from Suarez gerrard agger skrtel reina think we need manager b4 euros start so we can start buying players
The problem was putting our faith in English players and an English style of football when Engaldn clearly are not the best international team in the world.
19 May 2012 19:34:48
Ahoy - its Champions League Final Night - hooray !!!
Come on Bayern - (apolo's ED002) I fully beleive I would feel diffrent if it was not for the ongoing and well documented antics of John Terry - who benefits from enormous protection by the London media.
When I tell a Triple Ripple Plastic flag waver of my dislike for John Terry - they will generally answer "he's a brilliant footballer".
BOILED ONIONS
Come on ze Germans!
In total agreement he represents every thing thats bad about the modern day footballer , and the way he speaks just annoys me no end , hes a muppet!!
19 May 2012 19:33:07
Not so much a rumour more an opinion
I for one will be pleased if we get AVB, this time last year he could of had his pick of European teams and Chelsea paid 15million to get him, six months with a gang of old men who didn't accept him doesn't make him a bad coach. Get the right team around him to support him and he will do well.
Klopp would be my first choice but he's not leaving Germany so lets get behind AVB
Plus our cb's are much quicker in skrtl and agger when fit than terry who is old and luiz is luiz
19 May 2012 19:16:33
I am worried about FSG and thier decision. delay over building a new stadium or redeveloping Anfield is unaccepted. they sems have no idea about it. when Van gaal , Capello and Hidink is there why going for martinez ?
red-heart
Why is it unacceptable, I don't know whether I want to leave anfield yet as is the same with other fans
I imagine this has been covered ad nauseum but surely we have to leave Anfield? Commercial reality - and our desire to compete - deems Corporate facilities are a must! Is there realistic scope for appropriate development of Anfield to achieve this? {Ed002's Note - Within certain constraints, yes.}
19 May 2012 19:16:23
Hello Eds,
will we know the manager next week? {Ed002's Note - No idea right now.}
19 May 2012 19:16:17
Most probable AVB or Martinez
Maybe Deschamps or Laudrup
Benitez would love to, but will they take the risk on someone else who has already been manager or do they want someone new?
very slight chance of Guardiola coming....
Laudrup or de boer for me.
Sjb76
19 May 2012 19:16:15
See Steve Mcmanaman has got a little dig in over Liverpools manager issues. Once a blue always a blue hey Steve.
19 May 2012 19:10:47
come on chelsea, do it for england
Come on bayern do it for football
19 May 2012 18:48:57
Urgent message from the social security............the next person to refuse the Liverpool job will have there benefits stopped.........tristen
That is nonsense, Liverpool have agreed to pay cash in hand.
19 May 2012 19:06:02
just been over cheshire oaks seen raffa in the hugo boss shop he said hes been offed the job at lfc didnt say witch job but said he would be back soon dont believe me size 9 shoes ,38" pants ,19" collar on shirts , one size fits all cap bring raffa back
19 May 2012 18:59:53
No, he had 6 years with funds to win the league and failed. He single handedly messed up the best chance we had of the league by playing too defensively, accepting draws, bizzarre rotation & subs and acting like a spoiled brat vs Fergie. When he left, he left an extremely avg, overpaid bunch of dros behind. I hope he stays far away, his ego is more important than the club.
For me AVB in, we need what he was trying to do at Chelsea. After tonight's swansong for fat frank, drog and co, Ambramovich will realise why he should have kept AVB. If AVB does the same with us, hell yeah. Big ego's must perform or go. Time for change at LFC.
I couldn't agree more!
AVB would now be my first choice (no Klopp)
His record at Porto speaks for itself.
Read Epic Swindle and then come and tell me that. I hate these uneducated Liverpool fans who give crap to Rafa. He was trying to handle the worst owners and executives we can think of. Show some respect.
BthekingB
Heart or head thats the big qestion
19 May 2012 18:57:45
dont mean to sound cynical but doesnt all this make good tv for Fox' sports documentry??????
19 May 2012 18:54:43
I've heard that avb will become manager next week I think he is a good manager can't see him dropping Gerrard were as Chelsea have got a few good players to replace the older players but we have got no 1 to replace gerrard avb can bring in rodriguez from Porto or defour
19 May 2012 18:53:54
So, after today does RDM become available and if he is, will he be considered?
Also, Luis Enrique should be interviewed in my opinion, the supporters and owners wanted him to stick around and continue to build on this year. Worth a punt?
19 May 2012 18:50:59
Hi guys, FSG guy again.
I want to run this past you all.
Or ya'll as we say in the more Southern states.
We want a tutti di tutti capi. A big boss man and get rid of the Director of Football. The role of assistant coach would be elevated. We thought about Benitez as the Boss and Villas-Boas or Martinez as assistant. Unfortunately our expert has ruled out Villas-Boas.
We like the idea of this management structure. But at the moment, nobody fits the bill.
Please be patient.
You seem more West Coast then east coast if you catch my meaning dude
19 May 2012 18:49:03
Avb for me !! Reasons 1 we Carnt get pepe g or kloop which would be the ones ov choice 2 Avb is not afraid to drop big players if don't do wot he wants them to do before anyone says it players are special so they can get away with this or that well let them pick the team and 442/433 No the boss is the boss heard stories like he would wait for players to turn up to see if they was late to training he seems honest hard working young 3 if not we will end up with Martinez or sum one who never been at top ov a big club under pressure from media and fans and players !! 4 the owners won't have rafa b back 5 unless we bring back king Kenny it's Avb for me in any case YNWA kk and all lfc . lfc linc good work eds and macca
What's with the dropping of big name players
Gerrard was missing for half a season and Carra was dropped by Kenny
Do you think Dropping the local lads which you must be hinting at is a cure for some mysterious thing?
Pray tell?
No to be fair that goes for any one Steve g /Suarez / reina / spearing / Wilson / hendo / get my point any one that does not play how the boss if he was wants no names no reps get your place on merit not a dig my mate at any ov are players just saying I would be happy to to that in a manager earn it every week or face the bench the next YNWA kk lfc linc
19 May 2012 18:44:14
Hi Eds and Macca
I have heard that Liverpool will make an announcement that something big is happening with Alonso in the next few weeks. Is there any truth is this? {Ed019's Note - No idea}
Director of Football - Taps Nose.
Jimbo.
Yeah hes goin to africa on holidays after the euros
19 May 2012 18:43:34
Is it true that Sven is being seriously considered for the Pool job?
Found it bizarre when I heard it but comes from a good source.
Red Daz. {Ed019's Note - No}
19 May 2012 18:40:43
type 'liverpool manager' into google something interesting happens, very interesting! {Ed019's Note - that is very weird}
AAARRRRGGGHHHH
Is it a sign?
Isnt that just from wiki tho?
Burnsy
Ha thast is weird and to be honest would have him back !!
Ha thast is weird and to be honest would have him back !!
I thought it was a joke but did it anyway. That is strange. I dont think it is relevant but {Ed002's Note - It is not - try typing in another club - chelsea manager, Manchester united manager}
Whats that crazyness about....maybe its Google advising FSG !!
Red Til Dead
Lets hope they know something we dont.
Love it
Type "Chelsea Manager"---and Carlo Ancelotti shows up. Now if you dumb enough you'd think they will reappoint him!
Jack D.
Its just old if you type in "chelsea manager" it says Carlo Ancelotti..
Chelsea manager comes up as Carlo Ancelotti
And martin o neil is still in charge at the villa! tis weird eh?
dbadger..
19 May 2012 18:40:37
What do you think of this?
I hate all the England shabite but you've got to laugh at parts. That'll rub salt into the wounds of Rio. Sorry about the long link.
DaveyBootle
7th Best Team in The World (Farley and Reid) song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XFIrirnYMVw
19 May 2012 18:36:02
Ed do you think the top managers turned down the job due to their being a lack of funds or simply they would not have the full say in the matter who comes in or little say {Ed019's Note - Which top managers are you talking about?}
19 May 2012 18:34:58
It's AVB or Rafa,as FSG have there pants pulled down by Rodgers and Klopp.The fans outcry towards Martinez has put a stop to any chance he had.
All the other big names where just a pipe dream of JWH as its good for the brand to be at least linked to the biggest names in management,even if we were never going to land one
19 May 2012 18:33:35
If Laudrup would come, do you think he'd attempt to bring Eriksen to Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - How would he know Eriksen?}
They're the same nationality. Everyone from Denmark knows everyone else from Denmark.
I know everyone else who lives in Ireland, and the OP knows everyone who lives in his country.
Dimwit.
- Something Red -
Come on ed. they are both Danish and must have met on more than one occasion .
They are both danish. Maybe Laudrup being such a sanish legend would sway Eriksen. Hope he would bring Kjaer and Boilesen too. Love Denmark! {Ed002's Note - Maybe he could bring back Poulsen?}
The danes are very secretive people and drink their carlsberg indoors
19 May 2012 18:31:08
I am not a Chelsea fan, but I have close contacts with staff in the club. Not important staff, but vital people for the everyday running thereof.
Villas-Boas is an ar*e !
Mr Abramovich, well I won't say what he thinks.
Whatever the press say about him he is a good bloke and admits his mistakes.
He is sorry he lost Mourinho.
I will not have a word said against him. Because Roman is a football man. Are our Americans?
Not important but vital, really???
Roman is not a football man neither are our owners {Ed002's Note - Mr Abramovich is very knowledgable about football and a great fan of the game.}
19 May 2012 18:26:53
hey eds,
is it true that AVB did not take the Roma job because he wanted to sign Fernando (Porto) and Falcao but they couldn't afford them.
If this is true, does this mean the only way he will take the Liverpool job is if the owners splash out on Falcao and Fernando? {Ed002's Note - No it is not true. Twitter I guess.}
19 May 2012 18:25:29
How about FSG start pulling their finger out and give us a reason to get behind them. At the moment they making our club a joke.
Your right they do need to pull finger out treat people with bit more respect ie kk but I don't need reason to get behind the club heard man c got a lot to look forward to in future years how about them for ye rough with the smooth for me and my family lfc linc
Okay lets tell them to close their eyes throw a ball and the first manager they hit, hire them!! Hows that?
SA
19 May 2012 18:24:30
Eds do you think the club have a target specifically in mind, hence the quick action of getting rid of Kenny.
I mean these guys are hard nose business people and know what they need to do. They would not just get rid of Idol to replace him with someone without proven pedigree.
List of 12 I believe is a smoke screen, and i think Brendan Rogers for example knows this, knows he would not get it, and because of this used this to make him self look great to the Swansea fans.
I have a feeling that we are all going to be happy come end of next week. {Ed002's Note - The owners will likely have a couple of preferred options in their minds.}
I am not an Ed but do you not think they FSG had a specific target that this farce of finding a new manager would not be playing out in the public domain.
Perhaps our owners are just yonks that know sod all about football. :((
kidmillions
I think that it is Liverpool Football Club (5 times european Champions, one of the biggest teams on the planet, so when we are searching for a manager it will always be played out in the public domain. ITS A BIG STORY, it still a BIG JOB
19 may 2012 18:24:04
eds what is your information that benitez will be our new boss {Ed002's Note - RTFP please.}
I always thought it was RTFM {Ed002's Note - Very similar.}
19 May 2012 18:09:57
Hi Eds in my opinion Andre Villas Boas would be a good appointment as our new manager for various reasons.Firstly despite being sacked by Chelski it does not mean he is a bad manager just look at Alan Pardew who has done a brilliant job at Newcastle after being sacked by Southampton.Also I believe that at Chelski the players acted like spoiled brats and Abramovich interfeared to much regarding team selection so he will probably be eager to manage again in the Premier League to prove that Abramovich was wrong to sack him. Thanks Eds EC 2020 {Ed002's Note - AVB was sacked because of (a) on field performance; and (b) the seults of a review by a trusted third-party that concluded the training methods were making the team one-dimensional and predictable. Certainly the players did not help matters.}
19 May 2012 17:47:10
it must be a bit of a disappointment when liverpool send legendary ex-players to visit kids in malaysia and then paul jones and julian dicks turn up
Paul Jones was the best right back of his generation imo. Julian Dicks........well.....
Jatt YNWA
Who is this legendary Paul Jones? is it Robs brother?
Ultra red
19 May 2012 17:56:58
Also, Why did we let Tom Ince go? And signed Downing?
He wanted a little raise in wages, and we bottled it! {Ed019's Note - Tom Ince higher wages than he deserved}
His father wasn't happy with the 4 yr contract we offered him.But the Eds spot on he wanted more money than we thought he was worth.
Another Great decision by KK, luv him to death but just another example of why he had to go he completely lost touch with modern day talent. It seems to me he wanted to recreate a team similar to the Blackburn team that won the Prem in 95/96 or when ever.
For example Downing= a poor mans Stuart Ripley
A Carrol= a poor mans A Shearer
Just cos he scored a goal today doesn't make him great!
19 May 2012 17:49:39
The solicitors team that deals with LFC sent home early Friday daytime and told to return to work after 5pm to work on things? Told by my mate who works for them that things may potentially be sorted Monday or at least definitive news of developments.
It appears things will be sorted quickly.
Evo YNWA.
I was speaking with my grocer Lord Sainsbury - do you know him? Anyway, he assures me that we will have a manager by no later that the commencement of next season. Lord Lyver of Byrd
19 May 2012 17:45:49
Ok let's get this forum ticking over
Doni release
Aurelio release
Spearing release
Maxi sell
Kuty sell
Joe Cole sell
Aqualini try and keep
Carra coach
Shelvey from bench
Bellamy from bench
We need another quality striker
Two wingers and two midfielders
With pace !!
Let's discuss this is needed no matter what manager comes in ?!?
''Spearing release''
He's got value and i'm sure a few teams would put a bid in for him, if he were available.
I mostly agree.
a) We need a striker who has scored 20+ goals consistently over atleast 2 seasons, not a one season wonder and of course, PACE.
b) A skillfull right winger who isnt afraid to get chalk on his boots, also cuts in to fire at goal or assist by passing. Again, PACE to burn.
c) An attack minded midfielder who can really craft a ball through, weve lacked that genius in the final third.
d) A defensive Midfielder who will be back up for Lucas, Diame??
e) A young forward who would be comfortable playing all across the front and wings?
RedSox69
Release Spearing?, that doesn't make sense, he would actually manage to raise the highest transfer fee in your list
JP
I wouldn't release Spearing but sell him? Surly worth a a little amount 2/3 million. Maxi I like but he'll probably be released old enough now isn't he. I'd love Kuyt to stay we have such a young team can't buy experience like him and we'll have more matches next year with the Europa so he'll get more game time and no matter what he is a big game player. Defo wingers but probaly only get 1 we're not that flush. Personally a big fan of Shelvey think he'll be a super player so another midfielder but just one and plough the rest for a really good striker
You're spot on with them all aprt from jay Spearing, he signed a new contract last summer and he's still young, we can make a few bob out f him.
Daniel Hanwell
Ok sell spearing and Adams but there not lfc quality
Spearing will have some value but not alot mate.I can't see prem teams coming in for him to be honest.
Aqualini keep? no
Spearing sell
Carra coach not yet
Doni is staying
For the love of god Aqualini does not want to play for liverpool
gee man
Carra can go and coach the u13
Spearing must sell doesn't belong in a team like Liverpool cost us FA Cup as well.
Aquilani KEEP
Pacheco option for bench
Cole sell
Kuyt sell
Maxi let him leave
Aurelio out of contract
Amoo Sell
Darby give away
Eccleston sell
promote
Suso
Stering
Silva
Teixeira even though he hasn't played yet
Adorjan
buy
CF - Jackson Martinez; £5m
ST - Luuk De Jong; £13m
AM - Lodeiro; free
W - Elia; £7.5m
LB/LW/LM - Vargas; £6m with Suso on season loan
Reina
Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique
Lucas
ELIA, Gerrard, VARGAS
DE JONG, Suarez
Doni, Coates, Kelly, Aquilani, Henderson, LODEIRO, MARTINEZ
19 May 2012 17:41:14
Ed's, do you know if Laudrup has been interviewed or when its likely to happen? {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}
19 May 2012 17:34:44
Eds could you tell me whether you believe Rudi Skacel would be a realistic target for the new manager? He has stated on sky sports after the scottish cup final that he believed this afternoons match would be his last game for Hearts! Surely he would be a great back up striker. {Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea. Sorry.}
19 May 2012 17:44:36
Liverpool F.C. are offering new contracts to :
Louis Suarez.
Danny Agger.
Martin Skrtel.
(SSN) Hope it's true.
My top 3 Managers who should be considered are :
(1) Deschamps.
( 2) Klopp
( 3 ) A. V .B.
Out of all the names mentioned IMO these are the best option.
There is no chance of Guardiola. He is determined to take a break from the game.
Ancelotti would be my no 1 choice but can't see him realistically leaving his current job.
Beisla is a interesting coach delivers a news approach to the game very much is own man. Which apart from his lack of the English language; may be a sticking point with the Fenway Group. he comes across as being a bit mad.
The may be a more off putting aspect as far as our fans: allegedly he likes talking the sun toilet paper.
Why? I have no idea.
Matinez, like Hodgson has already been totally slated on this not just on this web site and I hope he does not get the job,because we will have another situation where a man is made to feel like s**t; just because he is not what the fans want.
Martinez , like Roy, is a nice guy and it's in his best interest he stays at Wigan or go elsewhere.
Kenny is legend and tried his best but his best just was not good enough. He made mistakes, which was no surprise considering his long absence from the game. He should have been given one more year, but maybe it's a blessing in disguise, because if things had have got any worse, then he would have lost a lot of credibility and may have carried a lot of guilt for a long time.
Whoever gets the job as Manager, Will need to deal with the high expectation and huge pressure at being a Liverpool F.C. Manager. An exiting opportunity , but a big, big challenge.
Good luck to ever gets the Job.
Red Robin.
Dunno who this "Louis" Suarez fella is, but let's hope he's quality!
19 May 2012 17:43:55
Okay, question to the Ed(s)
I hate Chelsea and Spurs and both have a crucial game tonight although the latter isnt playing.
If Chelsea win;
a) Theyll earn direct entry into the CL next season as holders with Spurs losing out probably meaning Modric, Bale etc will look to leave?
b) Theyll claim not paying importance to our league game payed off in the end! Although they did have a few internationals on and we played them off the park :D
c) Torres will Justify him being Judas lol jk
If Chelsea lose;
a) Will be nice seeing them in the Europa :D
b) Spurs will go through eventually holding on to key players also strenghtening their squad giving us a harder time to challenge for top 4
c) We can laugh at Abrahamovich and Torres altogether
SO, what would you lot want? Chelsea WIN or LOSE??
For me its Lose, I dont think Spurs will get too far in the CL and Chelsea will experience what it is to miss out. Also, Torres will probably have gained nothing? haha
Fellow posters welcome to comment too :D
RedSox69
Chelsea to lose and spuds to go out in champions league qualifying would be perfect for me! (sorry Ed002)
Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - No problem Chris, it is only a game.}
Ahoy - Official statistics show 99.9999999999990000% of the worlds population want Bayern to win.
Anybody with any common decency voted for Bayern, only Chelsea fans and the other 6 people in the world who like John Terry didn't.
Hopefully Bayern are played off the park but win with a blatant homer of a penalty in last minute.
I will swap the deeds of my house for a platic flag to see Fat Frank and John Terry cry in defeat.
BOILED ONIONS
Your right ed its only a game but we love it
Torres gained nothing you say,hes just got a fa cup medal and a chance of a champs league medal,what av you got ha ha ha carling cup so get a grip.You only hate chelsea and spurs because there better than you.Terry
Please john dont compare chelseas history to Liverpool's your embarrassing yourself mate.
IBIMO
19 May 2012 17:43:54
A name not mentioned yet is to be offered the chance to interview for the vacancy
Bert van Marwijk
Im sure dirk kuyt can shed some info on him.
IBIMO
Forgot to mention ian ayre quoted as saying a manager of a hopeful euro 2012 team is being considered aswell.
IBIMO
19 May 2012 17:42:34
there is rumours on a swedish football station that air china international has offered 350 million pound for the naming rights on the new stadium
That would be excellent, not only would the new stadium be 'made in china' we would play 'in china'
If they're granted the rights then what would the stadium be called because air china sounds stupid as a stadium name {Ed002's Note - For £350M they could build and own a stadium and then lease it to a club and get an income from it. Makes no business sense to me at all.}
I have heard this three times now so makes you think?? Would be nice to get some kind of announcement on the stadium though.
I believe you will find that it is actually 350M Swedish Krona which is about £4M - a sum slightly smaller than the loose change in my sock drawer. Lord Lyver of Byrd
19 May 2012 17:36:20
Eds how much maximum time we have to wait for a new managers? {Ed019's Note - I would think that he'll be appointed in the next week}
19 May 2012 17:33:13
eds, how soon is the schedule for next season going to come out? {Ed019's Note - Sometime in July I think, not completely sure}
I have one on order. Handwritten by a professional caligrapher on genuine vellum, with illuminated borders hand drawn by Franciscan monks. It will look wonderful stuck to the side of my refridgerator secured with a fridge magnet that I obtained from a souvenir shop in Monaco when I was weekending with Prince Albert. Have you met him? Wonderful bridge player. Lord Lyver of Byrd.
19 May 2012 17:30:45
Steve McManaman has told Liverpool the days of them being able to hand-pick their next manager were "long gone".
Former Anfield hero McManaman suggested anyone who thought the likes of Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would be interested in replacing the sacked Kenny Dalglish was not "living in the real world".
Hero??
See out your contract and leave for a big signing on fee for Himself Hero!!
Lyndon
Too true, the guy knows what he is talking about,sooner liverpool realise they are not what they were, the better for the club!!
I quite agree with Steve Mac, we are not going to get the likes of Mourinho or Guardiola at the moment, we have to be realistic, we can most likely get a manager who is out of work such as A.V.B, Cappelo and Rafa but apart from them we will be looking to get a promising manager from teams below us in the league, it is sad to say but we do not have the pulling power we used to.
Red Rich
And because of that, it's usually overlooked that Macca was the best player in England at the time.
How many years after he left did it take Ryan "Best player in the history of PL" Giggs to catch him for assists? 2?
Unfortunately, he's right though. That's part of the reason why:
1) I didn't think sacking Kenny was a good idea
2) I've become religious again and am PRAYING that Rafa is given the job.
- Something Red -
19 May 2012 17:24:34
Am I missing something, people keep harping on about if Rafa comes back we will suddenly have a deluge of poor signings. Now im not defending him or even want him back, but if he is recruited it would be under the proviso of just being a coach and the dof would identify targets for him to approve etc.....so this point seems moot.
However i do agree with the fact that we played dour football at times and his substitutions were baffling. But we won and our team was for three years highly respected in Europe. Personally I think Pako made Rafa look good and is the real brains, when he left it all fell apart.
Slimboy
The whole problem with Rafa's poor signing if you all remember is that he did not make them. Keane for example.
The only time he took control of this the club was skint.
Not saying he will get it, but given the situ at mo may be the best we have available to us
Alot of football fans don't seem to understand substitutions, they only look at their team, how they're playing, never taking into consideration the other teams strengths during the game and their own players fitness not the name
He did sign keane, it was his idea to sign him, he asked the club to get him and wanted to play barry behind him. it's been pointed out on here loads and rafa has admitted it in many interviews!
Rafa did not want or buy keane get your facts right, now aqualani that was rafas signing.
IBIMO
Why do you think Keane sat on the bench. Seriously how it worked was Rafa said for example a winger. He would give a list and then the club would buy. Babel was like his 5th choice. The only really massive error he made was Barry, which cost us Alonso {Ed001's Note - what idiot said Rafa didn't want Keane? He even said himself he did want Keane, yet still the Rafa-bators are so busy masturbating over his near-destruction of our club so hard they fail to notice it. Keep that man well away, he made enough of a mess first time round.}
19 May 2012 17:23:29
ESPN are reporting that AVB is definitely a candidate and might be interviewed as early as this weekend.
I personally feel he could do well for us, as he has something to prove and will get more respect from our players. I also think he would be able to bring in bigger names than someone like Martinez.
19 May 2012 17:18:23
Interesting article on this is anfield suggesting David dein has been advising fsg for a while and was the influence behind getting shut of commoli, they also feel he is the next dof interesting times I think, stoke scouse
How can we trust Dein? I certainly don't. He's probably still very tied in with Arsenal and trying to make us worse. I'd take Txiki or Van Gaal anyday.
19 May 2012 17:16:40
First time poster here
For all those so called fans here who are saying that kenny should have been given another year look at it this way imagine he stayed on and spent another 30 to 40 million on average players and we end up outside of the champions league again that will have destroyed his legacy and he will always have been remembered for being a failure. He got us our first trophy in six years lets remove him for that
I like to remember the king the way he was the best player who ever put on a red jersey and one of our most successful managers not as the guy who came back and ruined his legendary status by turning Liverpool into a mid table team which is what we are this season .
Rant over
Lfc 4 life
We were a bottom 4 team when he took over
Of course, he could also have turned it all around, had the luck and had the team ticking over nicely as they were starting to do......
There's two sides to everything.
KJS
Are you sure your a liverpool fan, because even if he did failed we'd all still love him and respect him. he would have ruined nothing
That's true but I'm going based on since he has been here I love kenny as much as anyone but its obv he has lost his touch when he claims he was happy with finishing eighth Cus we won the carling cup eighth is worse then seventh and rafa was salted for making us finish seventh. I'm just being realistic mate
Lfc 4 life
What if the manager loses the dressing room quite quickly as AVB did at Cheatski? What then? Where will we go from there? It's all conjecture? I'm not even sure that Fenway will still be our owners in a couple years from now? The new owners probably yonks again? Will promise us a new stadium and success blah blah blah!!
We will certainly see if Fenway are up to much good in the near future?
kidmillions
19 May 2012 17:14:37
where does everybody get there information all i use is sky sports an this website
From 'sauces', uncle's neighbour's dog walker's sister's grandma's half-brother's canaries, and sometimes real people.
Jolly Red
19 May 2012 17:14:15
Guys Rafa Has bee approached by fsg and as far as i understand has been interviewed i would love the news to break today that rafa is coming home EDS do you have any info on this {Ed002's Note - Nope.}
He hasn't had his interview yet, they'll all be taking part next week sometime
19 May 2012 17:08:07
Just heard from a reliable source that Paul Merson , Muhammad Ali and Eamon Dunphy are 3 of the 12 to be interviewed.
Good odds on Dunphy at 33-1
Y.N.W.A
Dylan
I really hope we don't employ Paul Merson, it would be as Simon Cowell says, an absolute CAR CRASH, Hmm excuse the PUN.
Knowing Paul Mersons betting prowess he would probably take you up on those odds!
Clayali
Thanks for the info dylan i can sleep much better tonight
No bother lads, lets hope dunphy gets it doe .
Really, i assume you believe Ferguson is a target aswell lol
19 May 2012 17:02:48
I think the Euro 2012 manager who's a candidate is Joachim Loew. Would be a fantastic manager for us I'm my opinion.
Gordy
Maybe its roy again...
19 May 2012 17:02:43
Looks like we're goona get a new stadium folks with AIR CHINA being the sponsors in a deal worth 350 million soon to be announced!!!!
Such a shame we won't be able to congratulate you on your superior knowledge since you forgot to put your name to it.
Mrpjd
19 May 2012 18:14:49
This would make a lot of sense for Air China, branding-wise. Check out their phoenix logo - its red and has a similar form to a bird we all know well. {Ed002's Note - So how would you feel replacing the Liverbird with a phoenix?}
19 May 2012 16:58:36
we need no more people returning who have been ex-managers ; we really need to introduce a new face and with the Andre villas boas talks really does excite me and also he is portugese and they have got a variety of talented players he could talk into coming over in the summer...for example...mountinho...danny
He would be perfect for the place and hope he gets it out of everyone else!
JM.
19 May 2012 16:47:31
heard talk of a move for ben arfa from newcastle, any chance do you know? {Ed019's Note - We have no manager}
We have no manager or DOF so why are we still linked to THIS player and THAT.
19 May 2012 16:44:40
Ed I'm completely clueless as to how transfers are delt with, specifically, is there a 'for sale' list, of players clubs wish to move on or is it all more word of mouth?
Hope the question makes sense
Cheers!
Lfcmatt {Ed019's Note - haha, there is no 'for sale' list}
19 May 2012 16:41:27
hi eds im just wondering, when we signed kenny last season ,was not AVB linked strongly with us , if so why have they not just got him straight way , i understand they ar taking their time but if he was going to be our manager before kenny then why not now , im not too sure but someone told me that he had a pre-contract agreement with us before kenny took over ,,,,,,mickey b {Ed002's Note - There was no agreement with AVB previously.}
Do you know if AVB has been approached yet ED? {Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know already. Read the posts.}
19 May 2012 16:39:13
Can I have an interview for the job I watch every game from my armchair... Ta
19 May 2012 16:28:46
hi eds, just wondering ian ayre has said there is currently a manager of a euro 2012 team who is also a candidate, any idea as to who this maybe?
IBIMO
{Ed002's Note - That will be Roy Hodgson.}
Whaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt
Lauren Blanc or on the recommendation of Dirk Kuyt possibly the Dutch manager will be approached.
Sarcasm for the win yes?
19 May 2012 16:25:06
For information purposes only:
Win percentage statistics
Pep Guardiola 72.6 %
Jose Mourinho 69.4 %
Andre Villa-boas 62 %
Alex Ferguson 57.9 %
Guus Hiddink 56.2%
Frank Rijkard 52.9 %
Rafa Benitez 52.4 %
Didier deschamps 52.3%
Jurgen Klopp 47.2%
Roberto Martinez 38.3%
Siggle
Are you suggesting we're in for Ferguson?
DP
That make no difference if martinez was managing barcelona his win percent would be top as would pep,s be a hell of a lot lower had he managed wigan the last 2 years dont want martinaez just tryin to put it into perspective
These statitistics mean nothing, interesting to read, as I am an analyst, but they are a more reflective indicator of the team and players that were being managed... for instances, I am sure that if Martinez wa managing barca, then his win percentage would have been marginally comparable with peps, klopp for example, has turned the germans into a force from an also ran, and his win % would have taken a beating when he was beginning the transition. I have seen win percentage mentioned alot - but i just dont buy into it being anything more that a misleading stat which has no meaningful weight to it. rant over. but again, thanks for the information as i do love a good stat. what woul be interesting, would be the win/squad value percentage i.e. average squad value (of the 25) factored in. I personally want klinnsman, imagine, after we score if he did a klinnsman dive along the touchline - comedy gold.
Ta
Ben
PS - Ed - I love this site, cracking job.
I'm aware that the stats mean nothing, that's why I put Alex fergusons in the list, and also why I wrote at the top of the post "for information purposes only"
Siggle
I'll take Guus hiddink any day of the week!
I'd just like to point out that Dalglish'es win % in his first spell was 60.08%. In an admittedly dreadful second spell, it was 42.86%, and overall, even with the dreadful second spell, his win % is 56.8%.
Not too shabby, even amongst the illustrious mangers listed above. He should have been given until Christmas, and then given the boot if we were still hitting the woodwork all of the time!
I think Kenny has not been given enough time.
DJP
Cheers siggle. No offence intended. Thanks for the post. Just debating. Cheers eds.
Ben
It just serves to illustrate how the players are more important than the manager.
Doesn't who we bring in? What really matters is how much spending money we give him.
kidmillions
19 May 2012 16:19:39
Why do people suggest Michael Laudrup is a good manager? He has done terrible at every club he has been at.
BthekingB
You need to read a bit more before making comments like that.
Manager of the year twice in Denmark.
Won the league once with Brondby.
Okay bad stint with Sparkat Moscow, but had a Mallorca side with no money and had to sell majority of their first team. So think he did OK with them.
SA
No he hasn't.
Do better research before posting silly things!
Sjb76
He got a Getafe side who are predicted for relagation every season to the Copa del rey final and the Uefa cup Quarter finals all in his first and only season at the club.
You sir are clueless.
Tom.
Won the league with Brondby? How does that equate to being a good manager? Terrible with a good spartak moscow squad and he did "OK" at Mallorca. He is the worst candidate for the job.
BthekingB
I've done my research and I still agree with the original post...what has he ever achieved as a manager?
Manager of the year twice in Denmark?, won the Danish league once in 3 years.. 7 years ago? why hasn't Barcalona snapped this trail blazer up lol
Saving a team from relegation? wow most of you guys hated on Martinez using that very arguement...I wouldn't be throwing "clueless" around young man lol
19 May 2012 16:18:22
Macca, i don't know if your already aware of this or not, but stories emanating from the media that Jurgen Klopp has rejected overtures from Liverpool FC for his services are wide of the mark. Infact this story is an old story regurgitated from 18 months ago when at the end of Roy Hodgson's tenure, FSG had made an approach to Klopp's agent & our interest was rejected, with Klopp's quote from back then being reprinted this time around again from the guttter press.
The reason that this story has been rehashed is because there has been a total lockdown from FSG, ordered from Werner to Ayre. This has left many journalists very frustrated including even the most prominent & respected Journo's who always have information on LFC including Tony Barrett, Chris Bascombe & Tony Evans who just cannot get a story out of the club.
Infact what I can say is that J W Henry had boarded a flight from Boston, (MA) bound for Germany, Dortmund (DE), on Friday. Take what you will from this, but we have most definetly have NOT given up our pursuit of Jurgen Klopp!
Total lockdown of information yet you know that he has booked a flight?!
Explain.
Sjb76
Makes sense but i dont know what JWH's flight plans are...
JHW doesnt book flights he has a privet jet {Ed002's Note - I thought it was only hedge fund owners that had privet jets?}
Unlike your plans, you cannot hide the fact that you have boarded a flight. So it is entirely possible that people know whether Henry flew to Germany or not.
You put together a very coherent arguement. If you are correct my friend, I for one would be extremely happy!
K79
@Ed002 - Mr Henry owns a hedge fund - but I think you already know that.
Privet jets. Nice one Ed 002!
DJP
Thats irrelevant....it was a joke based on privet!!
He has a private jet. And a very nice one too.
Source: me, I work at the airport.
MIKEY
19 May 2012 16:16:06
eds, question 4 ya!
do u fink ian ayre, tom werner, poeple from fsg or sum kind of scouts read sites like this 1? jst 2 get info on wot uva fans think or want? if so i have an idea, we cud approach guardiola, get him as manager and 2 set up his team of poeple 2 sort out wot he wants and his ways so fings wil b in place 4 nxt yr wen he finishes his break! that cud wrk, he only communicate frm time 2 time! {Ed002's Note - Clubs do take a look at sites like this to see what the fans are thinking. Sadly, your plan for Guardiola is really not going to happen.}
Why do people write like this?
So do the newspapers quite a few of them have quoted various posters from various sites regarding kenny,s sacking
19 May 2012 16:10:15
It is crazy by the owners to sack Kenny with no plan B in place; the club is exposed at the moment and the players wont be enjoying this ... hopefully Stevie G and other senior players are calming the situation down inside the club - but very poor by the new owners - first real cock up! {Ed002's Note - There is nothing to calm down "inside the club". Players are either on vacation or joining up with national squads.}
One of the editors used the adjective amateurish, and it seems an increasingly appropriate description.
Red Owl
I think they're doing a good job, taking there time to asses a good replacement for Kenny and showd Kenny enough respect in doing this after he got removed, so get off the owners back!
Surely there implementing plan A finding a new manager and not releasing anything to the press! would ou have preferred ten to do all this behind KK back??
19 May 2012 16:08:53
Tell u rather martinez or AVB id go for holloway least hes got a bit of passion !
This has possibly got to be the worst post ive read on this website!!!
LeeWils
19 May 2012 16:04:02
Upto present development it is clear that liverpool boss will martinez or rafa.
Chances of rafa are more because of his first spell. But main problem is his mixed signing because some of those were terrible that frightens the owners. As we he is not good at youth development which is root of fsg plan.
Martinez may be not choosed because he never made a signing more than five million
If both are failed upto expectations then there is only man andres villas baos available.
Managers like biesla,deschamps ,rijjard are unavailable or does not want come to liverpool.
There may be more low profle manager like hollway if liverpool fail to convience a good manager but chances of this are 1 in 100.
Actually Martinez did sign a player for more than 5 million - Mauro Boselli, and boy did he flop.
I looked through Martinez's transfers a few days ago, and it's a mix of success stories (McCarthy, McArthur, Moses) and flops (Boselli, Scotland, Amaya), like with most managers, including Kenny, Benitez, Red Nose, even Wenger. But he does seem to have a blind spot for strikers, he's not signed one for Wigan that can score goals more than once in a blue moon. Di Santo's the best he's done so far with his stunning 7 this season.
What a complete load of tosh...
Maybe he should just stick to players surnames begining with M?
Tristan
19 May 2012 15:57:28
According to Balague on twitter he has spoken to Laudrup and he hasn't been approached yet by LFC but he would "love to manage that huge club one day". I'm not itk at all but thought id share this
Super
19 May 2012 15:54:01
Hello Eds,
Just want to know who you think or know has a better chance, i know you might not want to answer this as the chance of managerial candidate can change any time,but i just want to know about people who are being considered and their chances as per your view.
SM
{Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts.}
19 May 2012 15:52:23
I shall put myself into the shoes of FSG. I am an American so in a way I am logical and impartial. Soccer... err I mean Football is not a sport I grew up with.
I have interviewed a number of candidates, all claiming they can do this or that.
Benitez is impressive, his record tells me so. But he is a bit bull headed at times and will employ this strange rotation system. However, his heart is Liverpool and would be a loyal servant, although a bit difficult to handle.
A Villas-Boas made an impressive start with Porto, but defensively his teams did get hammered a bit at times. Also he has never been a footballer !
We do like his attitude, his logic and thinking. But feel he is a little bit unproven. A bit like Martinez.
Martinez has definitely had the thumbs down from the supporters, who are the teams life blood. He does like to play and attractive style. But has won in real terms, nothing ! A late candidate, but he did nearly get relegated. Someone for someone else's future. One to watch but too risky for us.
Van Gaal. A bit old in the tooth but his recoed speaks for itself. We shall be holding a number of meetings to discuss his future with us.
Fabio Capello. Another winner like Van Gaal, also a bit old in the tooth but his CV speaks volumes. We are not sure that his teams play very attractive football but he gets results. Another one we will be having more meetings over. We believe he really wants to go to Chelsea.
Laudrup: Very promissing, his recent results have not been that good but his teams play good attractive football. A bit of an ousider in our book. We will have to consider him further.
Well, we will have to do a few more interviews, it is a bit worrying that a few of our prime targets are not interested. I am sure you know who I mean ?
We are waiting on de Boer now..
This is a very tiring exercise, and in some ways we feel non the wiser.
I think it's time for a well earned drink. American sport was never like this !
Bye for now. FSG
Worst post I have read on this site, and there have been many, many contenders for that honour. If the post was meant to be funny, it fails miserably. Pretending to represent the owners is a bit creepy, and the proposition that being American somehow equates to "logical and impartial" is frankly hallucinatory.
Get a grip.
DJP {Ed002's Note - You do realise that I am American?}
19 May 2012 15:45:31
Have we made an approach for Benitez yet? I hope we haven't because it means the return of zonal marking, Robbie Keane and handbags with Fergie!
I don't think Benitez wanted Robbie Keane did he mate? Wasn't he a case of Benitez asked for a table and got a lamp, or something like that.
Robbie keane wasnt rafa's choice for the facts...clear your facts buddy,
Wasn't keane Rick Parrys buy?? Hence why Rafa didn't like playing him.
Dublad
Zonal marking gave us the tightest defence in the league when it was carried out properly by the defenders. It is superior when done properly
19 May 2012 15:39:04
Ed002, with your knowledge of French Football, what sort of football does Deschamps like to play and at previous clubs has he tried to bring through youth? Never really watched Marseille play.
Many Thanks
Amz {Ed002's Note - I don't want to describe types of football played but the likes of Jordan Ayew have made it in to the team as regulars by 19.}
19 May 2012 15:32:21
I hope we do not look back and appoint Benitez. Doubt FSG will.
I would rather go for AVB and make it a long term move. We need a manager with energy and new ideas not a dictator who might come in and make things even worse.
Even would rather see Martinez over Rafa.
It is time for change, never ever look back again!
U saying then KK was a bad choice would u not take alonso back? i hope rafa comes bk not a fan of AVB martinez unsure over laudrup
19 May 2012 15:36:48
Someone tell me that we are not considering Mick McCarthy
Alex McLeish is 'on a free' ;-)
And why not? We had Woy as boss already, Martinez is heavily tipped as well, so why shouldn't McCarthy another lower tier premiership manger consider himself a candidate. Kean and Coyle are valid candidates as well.
JP
Ian Dowie could be an option!
No way people has to be roy keane
Steve Bruce is out of work...
19 May 2012 15:27:32
Eds who do you think is actually on this "shortlist". In america henry offered his teams managers massive amounts of money, do you think that he will break the bank for a world class manager? Or get sumone cheap like martinez {Ed002's Note - I really don't know anything more than I have already said.}
19 May 2012 15:25:45
I will risk the wrath of the ed's here, guillem ballague (spelling) has just tweeted that he spoke to Michael laudrup today, he has not been approached by LFC, but is excited to be linked with the vacant post. Says it would be a dream to manage such a big team & hopes he is asked to interview for the post. We could do a lot worse (martinez) likes to play free flowing football & is showing a desire for us, now Klopp & Rodgers are not available! Villa should make a move for Martinez now that solsjaer has ruled himself out.
M15rk.
19 May 2012 15:24:43
who is your fav out of these to be our next manager?
1.AVB
2.Micheal Laudrup
3.Benitez
4.Martinez
5.
According to me it should be Micheal Laudrup or AVB
and can we sign Laudrup?
1,2 and 5 frank de boer.
Laudrup first choice for me, then toss up between AVB and de boer.
Sjb76
De boer all the way
I pick no.3
19 May 2012 15:23:24
Jay Spearing was at Solly Rec footy fields this morning off Borough Road in Birkenhead, to watch Greenleas under 10's cup final against New Brighton saints( Greenleas lost 5-0 and Jay was dead nice to the players giving them hugs when they were in tears after losing. Nice bloke ). Jay used to play for Greenleas in his younger days. He has no idea who is going to be next manager for us after Kenny, so I think it is very much a case of watch this space with regards to the manager and we will find out in the future as even the players don't know.
On a lighter note Greenleas under 8's won 2-1 against Glenavon in a friendly and my lad got the winning goal, it was a carbon copy of Shelveys goal against Chelsea the other week. Just thought I would share with you all as a proud dad.
Cheers Rik int Wirral
Tell your lad well done fella! Hopefully a reds player for the future, save us a fortune! My little lad is 3 and has got a crackin left foot on him, I would play him on the left instead of Downing right now or is that me being a biased dad??
Waro
Spearing was chancing his arm trying to sneak in as a under 10 but passed for under 8's
19 May 2012 14:53:52
hi eds i know we dont have a manager or anyone to decide what players are brought in but just wanted your opinion on mark noble do you think he would be a good but for liverpool
19 May 2012 14:43:31
have you heard about any new interviews with managers today Ed? Do you know about Laudrup, as Ed001 said he was having an interview, and Laudrup says he isnt? 7
Thanks Ed's as always.
Burnsy {Ed002's Note - I do not know anything more than I have already stated about the management situation.}
19 May 2012 14:42:42
hi eds, any chance of the uraguay manager to come to lfc? thanks {Ed002's Note - I doubt he would get a work permit.}
LOL {Ed002's Note - Actually, I am serious.}
19 May 2012 15:10:00
Capello or Van Gaal. 1st choice
Rafa or AVB . 2nd choice
tr
Capello? Are you bonkers??
Benitez - are you bonkers
19 May 2012 15:04:47
ED's
Is Klopp totally out of the equation now
He is world class and i also put £20 on him at 16-1 haha
Also placed £5 on deshamps.
Are they both ruled out now or .......
Cheers
Ltp The Red {Ed002's Note - I don't see Klopp ever to have been an option.}
19 May 2012 15:04:03
I would love to see Rafa back he is tactically untouchable but imagine him with the owners backing him ? Just remember it was the old board that stopped him getting players he wanted at the height of our success. But despite our manager search we need 5 prem quality and above players just to get our first team 11 to top 4 standard !
Then we clear out the sub standard players and possilby the older ones to lower wage bills and then add even more depth !
Craig Gordon just released would be a solid backup !
Release Doni
Aurelio release
Maxi/Kuty time to go I'm afraid as we need pace
Spearing just not good enough
Carra to coach !
Joe Cole sell
Charlie Adams sell !
Aqualini try and keep !
Players worth a look at :- Holliet from Blackburn
Siguardson on loan at Swansea even Sinclair and Dyer
Zaha from Crystal Palace, Dembele from Fulham
Young hungry Lacey players we need !
Unless we make proper squad adjustments it wouldnt matter if we had Pep you can't turn a donkey into a racehorse and we just haven't got the quality compared to other top teams. But there's some very good players in the other teams outside European places worth looking at.
Anthony
Your not right in your head get rid of charlie adam had the most assists for us last year and missed ten games keep aqua who hates england hates liverpool personally hope i never see aqua in a red shirt again agree with some of your others tho gordon would be good back up good keeper on his day
Aqua has more skill in his laces than Adam. Adam is very sluggish and isn't no way box to box. We have 1 world class midfielder getting older one excellent dm midfielder whose injured two learning their trade and the others ain't Liverpool quality . We sold merieles and didnt replace him but we need two midfielders one quality striker 2 wingers
19 May 2012 14:58:02
Michael Laudrup seems to work via short contracts.
Give him 2 years making it LAUDRUPOOL then Klinsmann will have finished with the USA World Cup team and would manage LFC with assistants Hypia and or Hamann or Carra.
19 May 2012 14:54:31
Here's a thought..
Dalglish was an extremely successful player manager.
Maybe it's time for Gerrard to step up.
He knows the game, has worldwide respect and is a magnet for world players.
Gerrard might be our special one. After all he is captain fantastic
I know Gerrard may lack management experience but then so did every manager at some point.
Gerrard lives and breaths the club and his heart would be a driven force for the club.
I don't think this would be a bad idea and if things don't work out then gauriola or whoever can be approached in a years time. A new generation team of Gerrard at the helm with Carragher as no2 could be the recipe we need.
Not yet...
Go Stevie Go
Best Man for the Job of LFC Manager
Only 1 legend can replace another
It'll be Carra that makes the manager! He is so tactically aware its unreal
LeeWils
Wonder what style the team will play with Carra in charge... lmfao!
You'd need to wear a neck Brace after looking up left and right for 90mins!!
Lyndon
19 May 2012 14:48:03
Can anyone tell me how much benitez spent on players and how much he brought in from sales.
Its quality not quantity and Rafa bought over 70 players and only 5 or 6 of them was any good
Benitez spent £240m during his Liverpool reign and recouped £152m, on 76 players in 70 of them where crap
red rrab
Rafa bought more quality than any other recent manager.
BthekingB
Wasn't Rafa buying kids and selling them a year later for a few extra quid just to fund senior transfers.
Dublad
Rafa spent 62m net in his reign at liverpool less than sunderland aston villa to mention a few, this was over the same period.
IBIMO
19 May 2012 14:40:48
The club is in chaos. No management structure to speak of, mediocre managers turning us down, realistic targets like Klopp turning us down. Relegation scrappers being approached. Whoever takes the job has to get champions league in their first season because that is the reason kenny got sacked. If they don't get champions league their position as manager in untenable. Even Rafa finished below Everton and outside top 4 in his first season and that was with a squad which was regularly top 4 and won the champions league. Rafa wasn't up against city's money either. This squad is miles off top 4 and hasn't qualified for 3seasons. Only a manager with Mourinho's record could succeed and he's not coming. The job description would put any top manager off. The new man has an impossible task. We will be scratching around for another dead manager walking in 12 months time. Oh how exciting....
You haven't got a clue, you say things that just aren't happening, like buying/looking at players, no one is looking at players because there is no one to do it, take a day off will you
Dry your eyes.
Sort your head out, your obviously a blue nose or a manc, no real supporter would talk like that.
Go back to mufc rumours and leave us honest, decent red men to our forum
Siggle
I think the players we brought last year needed buying but it looks like Charlie Adam isn't upto it. Aqualini should have been made to stay and become a first team regular . Enrique Downing Carroll and Henderson will improve but now need another 4/5 prem quality just to stay in top 6 ! But your right without these squad additions it wouldn't matter who took over !
90% agree mate except the Jose part he would not get top 4 without a 200M spend this summer.
Although with 50-60 M spend this summer I would have been confident Kenny would have got top 4
The club is not in chaos. A management restructure is under way. Managers have rejected us for various reasons - mainly loyalty. Klopp was never a realistic target.
Klopp also got a team relegated - so is Martinez your preferred choice now? The targets set for the team will be different this season - what you say is just your view - not actual reality. You are not clairvoyant.
The same goes for your Rafa talk - it's largely irrelevant to our current situation - the squad is not miles off - 3-4 good signings are needed - most would agree with that. These issues will be dealt with when we have a manager. It's better to make changes quickly at the start of the summer - would you rather wait, gradually removing people from their posts? That would not lead to a stable club.
LFC is a great job - and a great challenge - good managers will be interested. You need to stop panicking.
BJH YNWA (they pay pretty well too)
BJH, chaos is a lack of order and organization, therefore the club is in chaos.
Red Owl
19 May 2012 14:39:12
Why do most in here want Laudrup? What has he ever won?
Jurgen Klopp for me even if it appears to be not available, Rafa next best. He knows how to get into the Champions league.
Hessle Red
I want him because I bet him at 80/1!
Ultra red
19 May 2012 14:36:44
Have to add deschamps to my list as well
Laudrup, rijkard, deschamps
It's a three horse race
Siggle
Deschamps has fallen out with the DOF & owners at every club he has been at so far.
So has mourinho
19 May 2012 14:35:57
is tom ince still a liverpool player .i think he is great young talent. cmv 05 {Ed002's Note - No.}
19 May 2012 14:32:15
benitez' tottal money spent on transfers
£223,525,000
and yet you still say he didnt get proper backing and want him too return. he made lfc the most boring team to watch in the league. i cant believe that you want him back he actually blew the 2009 season for you by making terrible substitutions and not going all out until it was too late. under dalglish you played good football and were only a few buys away from a title challenge, you won a cup and got to a final and were in the end unlucky not to finish in 4th or 5th spot yet you still sacked him because of 2 bad buys and bad luck honestly there is a good reason why liverpool are falling behind and it is due to apack of simpletons who actually called for dalglish to be sacked. honestly did you watch the games or even the highlights. liverpool missed about 2 golden chances a game.
a spurs fan
Alot of us agree but the onwers never saw kk as a long term manager they wanted, so it was the right time to move on. I think theres no chance Rafa coming back, fsg listened to the fans last time and we are eighth. They will pick the man they want.. Remember no understood why Newcastle got Pardew they do now...
Net spending is the only figure that matters
Totally agree mate.
Kenny has been sh*fted by FSG for no good reason.
Think you will find his spend was around 40 million cus he brough in 180 from sales so was not that bad for 4 years work
Liverpool fan in disguise me thinks
Im glad someone saw what was going on. had we been able to out away chances this year we could have easily finished third
Well said sir
Siggle
Net spend is all that matters to the owners because books do need to be balanced, but Rafa still purchased £235 million of his own players.
The Irish Rover
Rafa spent £182.616.00 on 51 players and sold 54 players worth £92.075.00 with his champions league success and getting to another final it is less than £10million he has received from the clubin terms of transfers
Its a shame when spurs fans make more sense than 50% of reds fans (sigh)
Try to post a bad word about Benitwz on most LFC sites or forums & you''ll either be banned or have your comments blocked
Net spend only interests accountants, and I couldn't care less..Dalglish, including purchase of Suarez, spend around £110 million...That, spent on the right players, should have got us top 4, and that is one of the main reasons he was sacked...
Rafa was on a sell to buy policy with hicks and gillet and the need to service debt in interest payments
IBIMO
p.s not rafa admirer but facts are facts
19 May 2012 14:30:59
Just read a thread and apperently we all but signed Michael Laudrup in 1983.
Talks fell apart when Liverpool tryed extending the contract that they originally agreed.
How much of a joke is that.
Tom.
Yes I remember it, I was excited that he was coming then it all seemed to go wrong at the eleventh hour.
Ozone
Why is that a joke, it's his loss, that was a successful period
A joke because we went back on an agreement which cost us one of the greatest footballers of all time.
Tom.
19 May 2012 14:30:47
When Billy Liddell was King it was LIDDELLPOOL
With M.Laudrup as manager it would be LAUDRUPOOL
Enuff said!
19 May 2012 14:30:28
**BREAKING NEWS**
Chris in Tamworth has reportedly rejected LFC's lucrative offer to become the new DoF, manager and Ayatollah.
Unconfirmed rumours are circulating that his mum has refused him permission to discuss the club's offer, but Chris remained defiant.
"I enjoy a challenge, but this is taking the p*ss" said the long-respected banter pundit from his base in Tamworth this afternoon.
Speaking from Anfield, Ian Ayres was unfazed.
"We didn't want him anyway" was his response.
"We were just kidding, so na-nah."
"Erm, can his mum manage a club, do you think?"
Oh well atleast we tried
Chris in Tamworth agent states that this original post is nothing more than a twitter rumour and has not an iota of truth.
However after being reminded of a serious oversight by dmedly he wishes to add the caveat that as well as his salary Chris would like a Lochin 38 with full time skipper on permanent standby at Weymouth for use at least twice a month
Chris in Tamworth
19 May 2012 14:29:02
Just watching Tom Ince clips. How did we let him go? Only 20, pacey, can score. English and not 20 mil! Madness
You support this club but don't know a thing, we let him go because he got greedy
Because it was his dad's fault, he demanded Tom got higher wages than he deserved for a player or his age and quality
Carb
I know, I know......
BJH YNWA
19 May 2012 14:28:26
Ed002, you answered a post of mine this morning regarding the £100 million the owners have paid.This included this years accounts that wont be published until next year.You stated that you expect these figures to be as bad as the ones just published. I appreciate that there was no Europa cup this year which is approx £8 million, but i am assuming there will be nowhere nesr the exceptional payments of £50 million ( stadium and managers compo). Im struggling to work out how there will be a £50 million deficit. Henderson, Downing,Enrique, Coates & Adam purchased for circa £58 million & £20 recouped. What am i missing? Player sales from previous year turning a profit? Cheers
The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - There is the day to day running of the club costs. There are the costs associated with the reshaping of the management. Have you accounted for agent fees on buying the players, or tax on the agent fees. Have you allowed for £6M spent on Poulsen and Cole's wages this year? Did you consider architect costs for work on the stadium project this year?}
Surely agent fee are a yearly occurance as are day to day running costs, as were Cole & Poulsens wages (they both signed in Hodgsons era).Anyway im sure youre right, you usually are. Just seems a bit baffling. Cheers
The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - My point was that you did not count them in the figures. The wages for Cole and Poulsen are significant if they are playing for someone else whilst being paid by Liverpool.}
19 May 2012 14:26:51
I've noticed Michael Laudrups name been mentioned in regards to the Liverpool manager job, I remember him as a player(class act) but know very little about him as a manager other then what I can find on the net which isn't very impressive at all, why do some people think " he ticks all the boxes"?(honest question).
Oh and on a final note I pray to God that Rafa doesn't come back, some of the most boring football I've ever seen was under his management, it's time for Liverpool to move forward and stop dwelling on the past
Bazingaa
It's about being the right man at the right time for the right price, he's available and he's studied and played for some of the best exponents of the game, he is extremely well respected throughout Europe, speaks a few languages and was one of the most intelligent players ever. Even though the clubs he managed weren't top flight, he still brought them comparative success.
Siggle
19 May 2012 14:23:13
Suarez will not be going to Italy. The managers list is down to 2 names, one is currently unemployed, one from a Cl team. Wacca.
Fast work Wacca. Can't believe we've whittled such a large field down so quickly. At least we have you to keep us up to speed. Should have a manager, DoF and new CEO plus 8 players out and 6 players in before kick off in Munich. Keep us posted mate.
Kick off in Munich. Keep us posted mate.
Wacca, I'm sure I won't be the only one who'll be looking back after the mgr is in place to see if your posts were on the money.
One thing this site desperately needs is a few more people who really do have good quality info.
We know from past experience that Macca has good info and he is honest, and I really hope that in you we now have another decent and honest source.
Is he serious....I honestly thought you were taking the piss mate.
GuvTOB
Wacca wacca wacca!
(muppets?)
Myk
19 May 2012 14:17:41
Since january when I posted first time I said the owners had a reason not to give money to KD to spend on jan transfer market,as they didn't trust him with their money as he would have spended on some average high price players,and I always said BRING BACK RAFA BENITEZ....!!
Its about time RAFA is offered the job as he's the only one who can handle the pressure of LFC demand with his EGO!!
I'll be surprised if someone like Martinez gets the job
And yeah I was criticized when ever I said KD will be gone and so many poster thought I was anti KD,but I only saw results and he couldn't produce any,mark my words if RAFA comes back people will see hoe hendersson will change and even carrol will be better even though I don't rate him as a striker with high price tag,and if suarez does stay he will terrorise pl defender,
Lastly its better they get RAFA now when he's available
Thanks
'Get him while he's available' ... yeah like he's been so busy for the past 2 years...
Of course he's available, he has been unemployed for 18 months because no one wants him and he's no good.
John B
Raffa will be available for a long time cus no 1 wants him so i wouldnt worry about that. what i would worry about is his signings(for every good one, four bad) we will be goin backwards if we get him again give it a rest he has had his chance or 5 to win the prem!!...redman matt
19 May 2012 14:15:02
Question for Macca really,
Whats the feeling amongst the players towards a Rafa return?
I am not Macca and many of the players in the current team have not played for RAFA but its easy to imagine that the thought of RAFA terrifies the old hands.
19 May 2012 14:08:49
The King stripped of his throne as chaos siezes the land. False prophets clamour to take control courting only silver and selfish glory to sucour their pride.
The storm rages! Despair grows.
The rain drives harder! And hope seems lost.
The wind blows a tempest! As dreams crumble to dust.
And as the night seems its coldest and darkest, a small huddled group of the faithful see a vision....
bathed in golden light and heralded by the singing lark the storm clouds receed and there is HOPE, RAPHAEL BENITEZ IS RESTORED! And our enemies tremble. (And agents of journey men players rub their hands with glee lol)
Wow! Edgar Allan Poe is alive and well ,keep up the good work my literal friend . Simmo71
19 May 2012 14:08:46
have i missed something ed? has avb been contacted?
do we know who has been contacted or is most of it conjecture?
cheers
big red g
19 May 2012 14:07:22
*Statement just released by the agent of Chris in Tamworth*
"My client is flattered at recent speculation linking him with the vacancy at Liverpool. As a life long fan if the offer came officially he would find it hard not to accept.
However he has raised a couple of points that would concern him:
Firstly, will the Anfield crowd take to him as he is a Cornishman so wouldn't be considered a "real fan" by some
Secondly the price, he's worried that his wage demands of £45k a year may appear too low to be taken seriously
And finally, he would insist that a new DoF be installed namely Ed002"
Chris in Tamworth
Ya know you'd have no time for fishing?!
dmedly
Puzzled has just informed the press that he doesn't want to be considered for the Liverpool vacancy. He said 'if it isn't a good enough job for Rodgers then it certainly isn't good enough for me'
Puzzled
19 May 2012 14:06:01
If Roberto Martinez takes over as manager my friend who is the brother of the Wigan Athletic cooks says. Martinez would make a £8m bid for winger, Victor Moses. Also there is talks of Hugo rodellaga arriving T anfield for £4m.
Wow.. I know Liverpool overpay for players, but paying 4 million for a player who is out of contract is a new low.
What a madman he would be paying £4mil for a free player.
The hat.
19 May 2012 14:02:53
Dont understand the posts to the ED's on here. The majority of supporters know whats going on, were looking for a new manager and no players will be coming in until a manager is appointed.
Also, we cant attract major names. With no european football and a squad of mediocre players why would a big manager come in? Martinez and Benitez, beyond those its difficult to see a manager of another club wanting to come in.
Its common sense people, think about it.
19 May 2012 14:01:21
Nigel De Jong wants to move, as well as Roberto Martinez becoming the new manager is very likely
19 May 2012 13:53:11
How about this for a team guys and girls? (sorry for the long post lol)
DoF
- Tixi Bergistrian
Manager
- Michael Laudrup
Assistant Manager
- Rodolfo Borrel
Coaches
- Steve Clarke
- Steve Nicol
Goalkeeping Coach (wait for it)
- Peter Schmeichel
Reserve Team Coach
- Pep Segura
Tixi Bergistrian and Michael Laudrup are former Barcelona team mates and still very close.
Laudrup and Borrel already know of each other through Barcelona connections and Borrel already knows the set-up at Lfc and already knows the players/Youth players and both share a simular football phyosephy.
Steve Clarke to be kept on and would work with Steve Nicol who has plenty of coaching experience from his time in America and has the American connection and his obvious Liverpool connection and is a good football man.
Michael Laudrup and Peter Schmeichel are very close and with the available Goalkeeping Coach position Laudrup maybe tempted to ask the guy he described as the best keeper he ever seen.
Pep Segura to carry on Rodolfo Borrels good work at reserve/youth level with Borrel having an overview of whats going on with the view of bringing through as many talented players through the system as possible.
For me it's a team of winners, the football and the future could be very exciting, a team with plenty of football experience between them and plenty of connections throughout the game. I also think it's a team thats very possible to assemble and really is realistic.
I do like Bielsa but his lack of english would be a worry and I don't know how interested he is to be involved in the English game. Laudrup for me would be a fantastic option, esspecially with this team round him. He's well respected, would attract players, likes an attractive, fluid and direct style, very media savvy, cool, intelligent, perfect English and with the added bonus that he's a Liverpool fan is a football student and knows our club very well.
What do people think?
mikehoopersgloves
Like it, unsure about schmicael tho..
Siggle
Great post - agree 100% hope your on the interview panel ;0
I'd be ecstatic with that and it seems fairly plausible too!
Laudrup's name is getting mentioned more and more. Ed, is he a target and do you know if he has been contacted? {Ed002's Note - There has been no contact at this time.}
19 May 2012 13:50:45
What are the possibilities of Joe Cole playing for us again next season as his performances at Lille have been outstanding. I quite like him and would like to see him given a decent chance by whoever is new manager.
Depends on the manager
I do quite like Joe Cole, i've always thought he had talent and wouldnt mind him for another season it see if he pay's off, no-1 can lie, all Liverpool fans loved the fact we signed him, jus a shame it didnt work. But in my own view i think the reason he's taken well to Lille and Ligue 1 is because its not as fast paced as BPL and he's able to cope more with more time on the ball. Jus my take on it.
Carb
Maybe we could send downing there too cos he can't cope with the pace of the pl and thats who we bought to replace cole
19 May 2012 13:48:25
Can we read anything into Steve Clarke's resignation NOT being accepted...wasn't he close to joining Chelsea last summer when AVB took over?
I personally wouldn't be too upset with him if we couldn't/can't get Guardiola or Klopp...just feel like he was screwed over by the Chelsea players and he isn't the first and won't be the last manager that happens to.
Just a thought
Dorset-Red
I believe Capello felt some of the same daggers in his back as AVB. I think alot of people are being short sighted dismissing AVB.
K79
19 May 2012 13:47:07
Personally I think we should take Rafa back. His record speaks for itself and some of his signings were superb. Bearing in mind the t**ts who owned the club then stopped funding new acquisitions meaning he lost out on Mata, Silva and, who knows, maybe even Aguero and was only able to fund the likes of Kyriakos. Imagine with decent funding the class of player he could attract.
With the exception of Alonso (a massive mistake to let him go) he achieved great results including very nearly winning our first premiership. Clever tactician and a devoted Liverpool fan.
The other advantage is he would hit the ground running and wouldn't need a season to bed in.
I'm not sure how he would handle Suarez and Carroll, or how welcome he would be made by Gerrard or Bellamy, but IMO the best we could get at present as I don't believe AVB or Martinez are up to it, and there are too many question marks on the other available candidates. Rafa would also be motivated to prove a point and would drive the team hard to get results fast.
solidair
How many times do you " In Trust " people need reminding Benitez spent a fortune, and won 2 major trophies in 6 years - not a record a Liverpool manager should be proud of, or re-employed for.
Mata silva n aguerro are fantasy signings any manager can say they want. i want a ferrari doesnt mean i can have one......redman matt
First of all I'm not an "In Trust" at all - I simply believe he's the best option at present. Secondly, what have we won since he left? Carling Cup (just) and out of Europe.
solidair
19 May 2012 13:46:23
Hi ed's I know u must have loads of requested post, but if david dein, does get a job as dof or ? He brought arsene wenger to arsenal, does he speak french? I have just reads dechamps managerial record, and wow! This man is a winner! And if fsg fancied him before than surely he would be a perfect fit at anfield! Have any contact been made with him, or will they have to wait until the french league finishes? Merci (sorry, but in a oo laa laa mood)! Thanks Ed's DHH L20 kopite! Y..N..W..A jft96 {Ed002's Note - Arsene Wenger does indeed speak French. I do not know if any contact will be made with Marseille regarding Deschamps but there has been none as of yesterday morning. However, he will likely be available and an approach may have been made to his agent.}
Ed002, you are hillarious! Think he meant does Dein speak French!
19 May 2012 13:45:58
it's only my view but i think fsg r waiting to see what happens with RDM...i would have give kenny one more year but that is all in the past so we have to move on...i think if martinez was the man fsg wanted they would have made him manager by now...by sacking kenny and then not been seen to look for a new man would have made them look very unprofessional...[if it hasn't all ready].just seems all very mixed up at the moment and like many fans i am scratching my head and wondering what the hell is going on...i might be wrong on the whole RDM thing who knows,but by sacking kenny and not having someone in place does seem very strange....dave d
19 May 2012 13:43:50
*Breaking news*
Chris in Tamworth has thrown his hat into the ring for the vacant Liverpool managers job. Could he be the man for the job?
Chris in Tamworth
----------------
Chris site is uwannabelfcmanager.com just upload your CV like I did.interviews are next week.
You must show them your you tube clip to them showing you can manage.I am car pooling with ed002 to anfield.
Red indian
19 May 2012 13:41:20
I might be missing something but why do so many people want Laudrup? I understand that he was a special player but his management career seems to be nothing special and he has no title-winning experience. Doubt FSG would take him on with that CV, given they're not football followers
Red Ollie
He has a good ability to bring through youth play exciting short passing attacking football and get rid of deadwood without breaking the bank. Which ticks a lot of boxes.
The hat.
19 May 2012 13:37:15
Hi Eds, with the news that AVB will have an interview today do you think it's possible that the approaches for Rodgers and Martinez are just to make AVB seem a better option. It's just that when he was originally linked there was mixed feelings with the fans and now he will seem that much better instead of the other options. Good tactics by the owners? {Ed002's Note - No.}
19 May 2012 13:34:18
Laudrup seems to be a big risk looking at his managerial stats. Nothing to suggest he could do anything with Liverpool.
Sacked in Russia and just kept up Mallorca
Getafe did nothing really impressive
If he wasn't a famous player he would be seen as another martinez
Cp
I agree and would take martinez over him but you never know about these managers because they have never had huge funds to play with. for all wee know with good backing then martinez or laudrup could be the next ferguson. i personally think martinez will be a great coach in the future
derryred
Took Getafe to Copa Del Rey Final and Europa League quarters
I don't watch Russian Football so don't know how he did.
Mallorca were in a mess when he took over, having sold many of their players and thrown out of the Europa League for financial irregularities, kept them in La Liga. He only left Mallorca because their owner started making decisions he didn't like.
At Brondby, Getafe and Mallorca he brought a brand of attacking football which I think we as fans would be happy with.
The fact that he was a top player and played at the biggest clubs, although I believe he rejected the chance to join Liverpool, makes a huge difference. He understands the expectations of the fans and has worked under high pressure situations.
He would certainly be up there on my short list of managers
RedSG
19 May 2012 13:33:39
So much negativity around at the moment. Does not help when we hear people like Tony Evans and other media LFC fans jumping on the 'club in chaos' bandwagon. Radio stations like Talksport just love it. People like Dave Whelan releasing info bout Martinez and Swansea scoring a PR goal bout Rodgers etc will do what they want for the benefit of own clubs.
I believe the owners know exactly what they are doing. I believe they have all the people in place to fill the senior roles. I do believe some of these guys are already sounding out players and I do believe we will get a manager who will take us back into the champions league. I am like Macca just have some faith.The media are writing what they want because no information is being leaked.
One of the best posts I have read! Clear and bang on the money in my view.
Take a bow sir.......[insert name here]
K79
I tend to agree. I think the owners are being clever. If they look on here theyll see one man divides opinion but more than half of fans would have Rafa back. No other candidate will be as popular. In addition he's risk free, knows the club, helped set up the current Barca inspired academy set-up and when it comes to show us yer medals time he wins hands down against the other likely lads. The clever bit is they're putting it about that they want a younger man who fits into their structure to pressure Rafa into falling into line. Not that he'd have a problem the likes of begiristain and dein helping him get the players he wants and the club wants. Remember his frustration with Parry fiddling while targets were missed. I am now definitely leaning towards another Rafalution !
This is so tiresum. What were you actually watching when Benitez was here. He has to have been one of the worse managers in the history of the club. He was just so clever at playing certain very willing elements of the fanbase
19 May 2012 13:33:15
Do you have confirmation that Klopp has in fact turned us down? And if so who has Macca now favoured for the job?
Thanks
He has said, in essence, he is happy at Dortmund....How many players have you heard say that only to move clubs. It would be mad for him to say anything else unless he is named manager, that really applies to any manager or player unless you want a Tevez saga on your hands.
K79
Yes, but he was he was flattered and that he wanted to continue building what he has started where he is.
19 May 2012 13:32:50
we need a new manager quick and the right guy for the job .
we need some players shipped out very soon and new players flown in as fast .
that statement of cups meaning more than league possision are from a bygone age football has changed in the last 20 years .
loosing home games to pl minnows not acceptable .
save this great club now get us where we should be fsg have done some good things since the take over its time now to kick on or the slide becomes a freefall look at villa we dont want to go there .
thanks all mal club over individuals always
I'm glad I'm from a bygone age then.
Ask me if I'd rather win a Cup every year for the next 10 years ( accumulating 10 more trophies for our cabinet ) or come 4th every year and win nothing - NO CONTEST
19 May 2012 13:28:27
i know that not many people will agree with me and say he falls out with players and staff when he doesn't get his own way i.e. Luca Toni and Rivaldo but i believe that we should do after Louis Van Gaal. The former Ajax, Barcelona, AZ and Bayern Munich manager has a great record of winning titles where every he has been apart from when in charge of holland, having won the Champions League with Ajax and a host of domestic honours at Barcelona, Bayern and AZ Alkmaar. And he is the person that was key in bring players like Dennis Bergkamp, Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf, Edwin van der Sar, and more recently players including Thomas Mller, Holger Badstuber that are key to Bayern and there country. he also reinvented the winger Bastian Schweinsteiger into a defensive midfielder where he has played ever since and maybe he could do this with our club geting us back on track. He also great in the transfer market he brought Robben to Bayern and look at how good that has been.
At last - a realist - employ a manager who knows how to win titles - assuming one would accept the massive challenge ahead of him ( or her, for the benefit of fairness of course )
That rules out the young p and comers like uMartinez, Rodgers, Lambert etc - oh and Benitez of course.
Alternatively try to build another Dynasty giving a young manager the chance to develop and accept that we will go another number of years without the title.
He should certainly be approached. Whilst he may not fit the age profile FSG have supposedly gone for, he is a winner!
The fact that Bayern have got to the Champions League final, with much of the same team he built and the way they play just shows he can do a job at the highest level.
RedSG
A good shout that i have to agree must be worth an aproach with his record its better than evry other man and his dogs we seem to be linked with at the minute....redman matt
Ed's do you agree with this post as it seem to a good idea if we want to develop the players from the youth and start to blood them into the team his done it with with ajax and bayern like the poster said {Ed019's Note - I like van Gaal}
19 May 2012 13:27:39
Am I the only one who is genuinely excited at the prospect of someone like AVB?
No ur not. I really want him at our club as he could lead the new era with new young players. I have always liked him as a manager and he had a 88% win record at Porto only to be treated bad at Chelski, Im teamAVB
I like him too
19 May 2012 13:26:05
Guillem Balague
Just spoken to Laudrup, hes surprised about rumours but would love to get the chance to manage LFC one day.
Matty P
19 May 2012 13:22:15
Michael Laudrup: "I havent been approached by LFC but it is 1 of the top clubs in the world. I would love to manage that huge club one day"
Siggle
19 May 2012 13:14:31
*Breaking news*
Chris in Tamworth has thrown his hat into the ring for the vacant Liverpool managers job. Could he be the man for the job?
Chris in Tamworth
Too expensive
Siggle
Only if he brings ed002 in as second in charge
red rrab
You would certainly not make a bigger mess than the club is in already.
Red Owl
I've heard, he's done a great job in FM. So, may be, he can be the one. lolz. :)
Wouldn't leave tamworth for merseyside
Chris in Lichfield
Er.. no. Because I can see everyone baying for your blood once you have bought both bent and defoe... :P
VM YNWA
No because you mite loose 1 game and evry 1 will call for you to be sacked stick to the day job its less hassle lol..redman matt
Not a bad shout, too defensive for me though!
Ultra red
19 May 2012 13:12:27
Liverpools new director of football will be david dein in this role he would oversee all sporting decisions and will have 3 people under him.
In new structure ian will look after commercial side of LFC.
FSG will then put some one as CEO.
Its whole new structure they are introducing.
Manager will look after on field matters only so that suarez case is not repeated.
Martinez is favourate to be LFC manager.
Red indian
You may get david a half and half lfc/arsenal scarf then-not joking
So the CEO would be below the Director of Football in your management structure?
RedSG
No I meant CEO is not priority and will be a suit.
Priority is sort the structure at playing side first.
This is what my brother told me he is a journalist with Times of India but he is a Man U supporter so you can sense I am not that sure he is right but thats what he told me.
Red indian
19 May 2012 13:11:57
EXCLUSIVE The new manager is none other than KEN DODD. Well it would save a few bob not having to alter the lettering on the training equipment. LOL. YNWA
I got told it was stan boardman local manager knows the area well expect him to be unveiled byt teatime tomorrow
19 May 2012 13:10:59
Guillem Balague twitter.
ten amazing years lived in Liverpool. I had no money and the city/people looked after me. Eternally grateful
R-R
19 May 2012 13:10:52
Regarding the manager situation (Like 99% of posts on here now) am i the only one slightly curious as to the way LFC are going about selection ?
I personally can't remember a club approaching so many managers and arranging interviews for a number of them, yes Martinez and co were approached but so were Klopp and probably Pep who've turned an interview down for very fair reasons (Who'd leave BVB and Pep wants a break).
Usually there may be 1 or 2 approached and that's all, you can tell FSG are trying to get the best man available.
Let's get behind the owners as they want the best for the club like everyone else, looking forward to seeing who they appoint myself (Just not Martinez ...... please?)
JP
Or they don't know what there doing
How does anybody know how many prospective managers we are considering - don't believe the media in any way - wait till the club makes announcements.
Klopp
Guardiola
Laudrup
Van Gaal
Capello
Mourinho
ad infinitum
Any evidence apart from the notorious unreliable British Media that any of them have actually been approached? - NO
John B
When the club announce who the next manager is
I never claimed to have evidence of who we've approached but since pretty much EVERYONE has said it there will be a bit of truth to it.
I was making a point over the process they're going through not having a guess who'll the manager will be. BUT if i had to throw my hat into the ring i'd probably go for Rafa, just have a feeling.
JP
19 May 2012 12:53:22
Pepe for me
19 May 2012 12:53:03
Guardiola be my main choice,but seems unlikely.It appears Rafa,Deschamps,Avb is the choice
Do you seriously believe guardiola would be rated so highly if he didn't inherit an all star barcelona team containing at least 3 of the 5 best players in the world ?
Haha he inherited arguably the best side ever but correct me if im wrong but it was HIS tactics and how he kept players happy ect why u been playing lma manager (thinkin ye i could do this lol ) please leaern about football first m8 DAVELFC
He inherited a Barca side that was underachieving.
He got rid of the likes of Etoo, Ronaldinho, Deco and Zambrotta - quality players....
and turned his new look Barca into one of the greatest sides ever to play football.
Give the man some credit.
BJH YNWA
19 May 2012 12:52:42
hi everyone, a technical question ed please, with us now looking for a new manager, does searching or even going after known targets all come to a halt until a new manager is appointed?
If yes does this not mean we are already going to be behind everyone in ensuring we get our targets?
I sincerely hope the owners get the manager situation right, it is so important, it will give time for whoever comes in to revitalise, cooperate and train the team in the appropriate manner before the new season starts.
thankyou, hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - The club would certainly want the input of the new management team but it may not be that there will be a new set of targets.}
Who exactly is choosing targets now? Football expert John Henry?
Red Owl
19 May 2012 12:51:44
When I look at the list of potential managers, I can't help but think of all the managers Rafa tactically 'outsmarted' when he was with us. He'd probably be capable of check-mating most of these blindfold. Sure, he is short of some inter-personal skills, but that's where good coaches come in. Sure, he could have been better advised on how to play the communications game with AF ('the rant'), but that is where a good DoC can help.
If Rafa was properly backed when he was in charge, I am very confident we would have 20 league titles in the bag. Think of the players he would have persuaded if Parry wasn't so hesitant Villa, Silva, Simao, Alves when they were all approaching their prime. How much would we give to be challenging like we were in 2008/9 and how far are we away from that now? Rafa only failed to achieve Champions League qualification once in six seasons and in that time he took us to two Champions League finals, winning when the odds were stacked against us. He also, in 2008/9, achieved the club's highest points per game average.
There is only one intelligent choice for me. RAFA.
Sir Masher
OMG please enough with Rafa, why are we always looking backward, there is a bright new future ahead of us, so no looking back please.
(I bet half of these requests to bring Rafa back are posted by the man himself, he's that desperate to get back)
He is too defensive and doesn't play exciting pass and move football
Why do most anti-Rafa fans resort to the 'to defensive' argument.
He used the tools available to him and set his team up to WIN. Some people have short memories but at the time we regulary competed and won against teams with a lot more resources available (chelsea at the time had mourinho and unlimited funds).
We didn't have a bad record in europe either! Remember Barcelona, Real Madrid, Beşiktaş etc etc!
19 May 2012 12:51:40
looks like its slowly coming down via rejection or not being good enough to Rafa,Deschamps,Avb-Laudrup aint been successful enough or Rijkard.Outsiders not mentoned in betting i'ld try for Moyes/Di matteo
And moyes and di matteo have won what exactly?
An fa cup at our expense you t**t but i still wouldnt have rdms defensive tactics
19 May 2012 13:09:32
Is Liverpool football clubs heart and soul being ripped away in front of our very eyes?
The fans are the heart and soul, not you though
What are you talking about?
No, it is being rebuilt, its just a lot of people are to blind to see it!
They seem to want to follow media views (who are ITK about what is really happening about as much as an average fan).
Stop following and start free thinking! No manager that is under contract is going to declare their interest publicly unless the are a fool. No manager is going to declare their interest publicly when there is uncertainty as to whether they will get the job! FSG, I think its clear, want to rebuild Liverpool and I for one would not rule out anyone becoming LFC manager until one is unveiled. I think we should as LFC fans be extremely excited about what is going to happen. If we get David Dein that is a huge step forward, add to this an exciting DOF & Manager who no doubt will be given a hard to refuse offer and vision and I cannot understand talk about FSG out, Rafa in. LFC fans look forward not backward! One last point is I disagree with Ed001 that we are a shambles, this is the closed season not mid season. No one apart from FSG at this moment in time knows what is the real path they will take regarding DOF, Manager and player investment. So please stop being negative and look forward WITH HOPE IN YOUR HEART!
K79
It is a very pertinent question, to which the answer is probably 'yes'.
Red Owl
19 May 2012 13:04:14
some ex-Liverpool players released on frees recently
Salif Diao (cost LFC over 6 million pounds)
Michael Owen
Zak Whitbread
Chris Kirkland (cost LFC over 7 million pounds)
Emile Heskey (cost LFC over 14 million pounds)
Soto The Greek (cost LFC 2.6 million)
Fabio
Kirkland cost £6million
Heskey cost £11million
And wasn't soto free
Check Your numbers
Soto wasn't free. You check your numbers.
Soto was £1 million check your figuresg
19 May 2012 13:01:40
I My opinion these are the managers id like to see in order 1) AVB 2) Rafa 3) Laudrup 4) Martinez
19 May 2012 12:43:33
I can't see any other alternative than Rafa to be our next manager.
He wouldn't be my choice, I'd have kept Kenny. There's a big list of people I would have in front of Rafa, but I just can't see any of them coming. The ones that would come (eg Martinez), I don't think are up to the job.
The new manager needs to be someone with a 'big' personality, which Rafa has. Also, there are a fair few Liverpool supporters that want Rafa back, so that's them kept happy - season ticket sales will be safe.
Unless FSG preform a miracle, the likes of which were last seen done by Harry Potter, I can't see any managers that have the inner steel required to keep the playing side of the club stable until everything is sorted out.
On top of this, he's cheap to get - no compo!
I won't be delighted if he comes back, but I won't be too angry either. I think a lot of LFC fans will feel the same, which I believe FSG will be happy with. Better keep the fans quiet for a while, until they get things going forward again (hopefully!). I think they know they have upset a lot of our fans recently, and I don't think (hope!) that they will do something too daft in choosing the next manager.
Just my opinion.
Nick
After speaking at great length with my tailor I am of the firm belief that the position of manager will be a straight fight between Mr Benitez and Mr Laudrup. Both - in my humble opinion, would prove to be excellent managers Lord Lyver of Byrd.
Laudrup or rijkard. 2 alternatives
Ever wonder why he's (Rafa) is so cheap? going back to boring football is not the way forward
19 May 2012 12:43:04
Hi Eds With the Rafa reports i just got to say he isnt for me. As much as we all love Rafa for he done at the time we've seen what happens when we go backwards. I think we need to move on from Rafa and appoint someone new. Laudrup Is the one for me
LeeWils
I can agree with you on this one Nick. I don't want Rafa back. If he was installed as manager then we could do alot worse than some of the names we are speaking to.
I'll support Rafa as any manager but for me, negative football has no excitement and takes the tradition away from the club.
I think we need a new manager who will excite the fans, but at the same time get results.
It has to be the one and only..
LAUDRUP
TIZER RED
I think Laudrup will be better long term (and unfortunately this means beyond the end of this season!), but it will take a while to get the team playing his way. That's alot of points to lose early in the season. Let's say we finish 7th or 8th again - I would say a reasonable expectation after the messy summer that we are going to have - will he be sacked?
I think Rafa would start of stronger, because he's more defensive. The problem is, he'd still be playing that cr*p all the way through the season.
I suppose the question is, would Laudrup be given the time and money that will be required? (At least 2 seasons, I reckon)
I really don't know with this lot.
Nick.
19 May 2012 12:40:47
Experiance do have a big part in Coaching for a big club. we may not win mush trophy few years but we have world wide supporter . I think we are no 3 or 4 in world wide fan ranking.
Van Gaal, Guss hidink can be Next manager.
if not Rafa , Avb before we thinking for martinez.
19 May 2012 12:39:25
With candidates apparently dropping by the day(Klopp,Rodgers)Moyes or Di Matteo if Chavski Bin him?
19 May 2012 12:30:38
Heard alot of posts saying that Gerrard and co would block a move for Rafa because they found his style of man management a little on the cold side and he didnt hug and kiss them enough when they needed their booboo's healing.
I believe Rafa was like that teacher we all hated in school who was really hard on us and made us do stuff and when we didnt he would be cruel and give you time in the exclusion room which would make you call him names and write s**t about him all over the school.
But then he leaves or you leave school and realise he was actually sound as and wanted you too learn and actually it was you that had the problems because you were a f*ck up.
I believe they bitched and bitched and kicked him a bit when he needed solidarity and was feeling the pressure and now they realise he was a top manager who loves the club and the people and only had our best interests and he was getting the big pole from every angle for his budget buys.
But lets look at the facts apart from a select few who did we sell at a loss really I mean if anything we should have held out for more money on some of our players but the sneaky spanish always play mind games and will have the players believing they owe us nothing.
Think really how much did he lose on players they always got resold for retail value and that was just too get rid of them quick.
Think now how much has been wasted on players who I couldnt get a pack of panini stickers for some of them.
All in all Rafa is the man for me I never wanted him gone I like evryone else was miffed he had made such poor buys but we are not too aware how many he was forced too make and the ones we thought were rubbish are now first team regualars.
Personally whenever I mention Benitez in front of a Chelsea or United fan they come out with all these comments like I hope he comes back coz he was sh*t.
I know this is just because they fear him they know that funded right and allowed to implement his own plans (The youth academy was his idea for all those who seem to have forgotten and just believed Liverpool did that all by themselves) that we could potentially be a title challenging side a bit like Arsenal but with more money.
I dont think for a second everyone will agree and maybe I am naive as I know little about all these other managers but when it comes down to it I love LFC and I know Rafa does and he has the ability plus I want too see him and Fergie wind each other up again.
Kopping a feel
3 words.. Defensive, Negative, football.
His tactics were always crap when teams parked the bus. I respect him for what he did and yes he is responsible for our set up in the youth team but how many chances did he give the youth?? None.
Please FSG get us LAUDRUP
No believe me the Chelsea and Utd fans mean it, they would love him to come back. And you seem to forget the last time Benitez and Fergie played mind games - there was only winner and it wasn't the Fat Waiter
I also miss him because he had balls to stick to fingers up to Fergie which Hodgson and Dalglish did not do.
19 May 2012 12:29:00
some people hate rafa. but they should look Rafa do accpet he make some error. and you have to accept the last woner not back him up with money. G.Barry was there just £14m and Woner not give him the money. Mata , Silva all can be a Liverpool player if he get £20m extra that time. he have to sale for buy player. but some of the player he bought is rocking and Gerrard have his best time under Rafa . so I Don't think we disrespect Rafa. and Rafa watch so many football last a year visit his website and see his analysis for African nation cup and CL. people learn day by day I am sure Rafa will come better then before.
roman.red
Roman.red aka Rafa Benitez
19 May 2012 12:27:13
For me first choice is laudrup, he has lots of experience, used to success, extremely well respected, intelligent, articulate and cool as. Second choice should be rijkard, for a lot of the same reasons.
Either of these managers, paired with a good senior management structure will strengthen the club significantly .
Let's keep our fingers crossed, we're not the club we used to be, but we can get back there. We just have to stick together and support the values and tradition that this club was built on.
YNWA
Siggle
I have a gut feeling you may be spot on with laudrup : )
martin p
He's got to be the best option, he ticks all the boxes and he's available!
Siggle
Laudrup - Managerial success where?
19 May 2012 12:24:56
Kenny failed and was sacked because of that reason ,why take the clubs money for being a failure in the form of compo, if he loves the club he should have walked and said to the yanks put the money towards paying compo to the club in which my replacement will come from .
This brings me to the main point of my post people are quoting big names like Klopp,Rodgers ,Deschamps And so on but lets remember over the last two seasons we have paid out £8.4 mil in compo to Wroys staff , and now the same again to Kennys staff , plus if we get a top manager from a big club it's going to be another pay cheque to sign , for example Harry Rednapp as a 10 million compo clause in is contact to scare of teams ,so in total £8.4 Wroys £8.4 kenny compo to new managers club maybe £8 in total £25 mil ,
That's why I think it will be either A.V.B ,rafa ,
Michael Laudrup? Frank Rijkaard? Fabio Cappello?
19 May 2012 12:22:20
when the american owners of our club do a statical analysis of managers who will deliver what they require , ie - champions leauge every season , theres only a few names they can go for , and looking at it in a clear way , benitez fits the bill in almost every way , forget about free flowing attacking footie , the owners are only concerned with results , the way they look at it , if say over the next 6 seasons lpool qualifly for the champs-leauge say 5 out of 6 times , the income could be around 30-50 million each year , add that up and you are talking around 200 million , thats why all the effort will be on this , and for all rafas bad points , they will go for him , its all about money , we all know this , interesting if the club gets naming rights of 150-200 million for a new ground , and say it costs 400 million to built , you can see just how important cl income will be , if the yonks put in place the best scouting and tell rafa its young players he will have to get , before they become big names , and let the yonks do the wages-buying , i think this will be the best we as fans can get, so for me its rafa all the way..............lfc
Sorry as a fan - it's about winning trophies, I couldn't give a monkeys toss about being 4th getting in the Champions League - 1st is everything, second is nowhere - The Europa League games where far more entertaining last season
Sorry mate it is not ,its all about money now , players wages , tv , worldwide sales , owners trying to grow their product /club , plus you have to be in it , to win it , me myself , i would like the old days of winning say the fa cup , but now it just does not cut it in the money stakes , thats why kenny went , i did not say i like the new modern world of football, but thats just the way it is now , remember nothing stands still , and if you dont go forward with the times , you can get left so far behind , sometimes you wont ever be able to catch up again..............lfc
19 May 2012 12:20:42
Afternoon all,
If Klopp is unavailable then I think Michael Laudrup might be a good appointment. Plays attractive positive football.
Dirks Engine Room
I've always liked him. Apart from being a good manager, there's the added incentive that he adores LFC.
VM YNWA
My footman highly recommends Mr Laudrup. Lord Lyver of Byrd.
19 May 2012 12:15:15
hi eds just wondering if roberto martinez was to become the liverpool manager how much would we have to pay wigan? thanks.
19 May 2012 12:05:18
Has Guirdiola actually come out and said he's not interested? {Ed002's Note - Why would he do that?}
He as said hes taking a year out of the game,for him to just change his mind would be disrespectble [spelling] to barca fans.hes an absolute legend at barca and wouldnt want to anger the barca fans by changing his mind to manage liverpool,plus he is probally going to manage man u in 2 or 3 years time.TERRY
Guardiola did not get along with Barca the club - meaning the people running it. In fact, I think he dislikes them. So I doubt he would care what they think about anything.
Whether the feelings of Barca fans are important to him - open to debate.
In short, I would not rule him out. (And yes I know he turned down Chelsea).
19 May 2012 12:03:39
AVB or Martin O'Neil (though unlikely) for me!
19 May 2012 12:08:02
Can I just throw a word in about Benitez and every1 saying he'll be the right man to lead LFC back to the good times and that the owners want him!. . . . As every1 forgotten that it was him who demanded full control of players, with us having a DOF Benitez wouldn't even accept a job, also does every1 forget it was him who screwed up LFC along with G and H, remember keane for £19m and selling Alonso because he wanted Barry! and finally on my rant about Benitez who won the champs league with G.Hs team it was are senior players such as Gerrard and Carra who forced him out so y on earth would they want him back?
chhers ade
Im sure Keane was a Parry signing?
LeeWils
Keane was a mistake i'm sure of it but xabi alonso wanted to leave Rafa just wanted a backup for DM he said he didn't want to plat for liverpool no more
it's like nasri or fabregas players coming in at their position so or you'll have to pay more money(nasri) or the player wants to leave(fabregas, alonso) so your argument doesn't ad up appart from keane but this was more about alonso then about keane wasn't it
Please get your facts right abt Alonso.... He was sold to fund in 2 new players... Aquilani and Jovetic. But the owners didnt give him all the money as promised....
Why do ppl slag off a manager for the cost of a signing? Rafa is not the one who pays the transfer or states he is willing to pay that....He quite simply states what players he wants and the board and agents agree a fee, how hard is that to understand? Consider yourself to be a manager and at the time i think any manager in their right mind would have snapped up Robbie Keane.
19 May 2012 11:59:30
hi EDS just wondering if rafa did come back would torres turn head because i was told diffrently that he has no intrest in returning only to spain cheers EDS {Ed002's Note - Are you thinking Rafa as DoF and Torres as manager or the other way around?}
My chaffeur assures me that Torres would never countenance a return to Anfield whilst Gerrard and Carragher were there. Lord Lyver of Byrd.
Jeeeeeezzz will this Torres rubbish ever stop??!
19 May 2012 11:58:54
rafa back how scary is that 111 players and left us with one centre forward over 200 million spent and left us in dire straights we need somebody who can identify players who can bring our beloved club to the top of this league and get us above the mancs again .i do realise he brought reina torres alonso who he ran out of the club but how many players did he but who were absolute s..t
Read: Epic Swindle
Are u mad over £200m spent ? give me a list of the player where we use £200m in Rafa's time.
Torres Bought £25m sale £50m .
Alonso Bought £7m sale £35m
Agger, Skartel ,Pepe, Lucas all have very good value in the market.
Get used to it the next manager will also buy some shat players but as long as he buys some good ones brings through some youth and makes progress who cares
Makes me wonder if he would be willing to work under a DOF to be at Liverpool again.
He's a great coach but his transfer policy is horrendous, especially for a club like Liverpool. Far too many ins and outs and no developing the youngsters.
MIKEY
Alonso was 10.5 million and sold for 30 million, get your facts right when arguing!
Waro
Alonso was sold for £23 million. Its in the Liverpool accounts.
The Irish Rover
Josemi - £2 mil
Nunez - £1.5 mil (part of Owen deal)
Alonso - £10.5 mil
Garcia - £6 mil
Moritentes - £6.3 mil
Carson - £1 mil
Crouch - £7 mil
Hobbs - £750k
Sissoko - £5.6 mil
Gonzalez - £1.5 mil
Paletta - £2 mil
Agger - £5.8 mil
Kuyt - £9 mil
Martin - £250 k
Bellamy - £6 mil
Arbeloa - £3 mil
Torres - £20 mil
Leto - £1.85 mil
Macherano - £18 mil
Pennant - £6.7 mil
Benanyoun - £5 mil
Lucas - £6 mil
Babel - £11.5 mil
Skrtel - £6 mil
Dossena - £7 mil
Ngog - £1.5 mil
Keane - £19 mil
Cavalieri - £3 mil
Riera - £8 mil
Saric - £500 k
Palsson - £250 k
Johnson - £18 mil
Kyrgiakos - £2 mil
Aquilani - £20 mil
Total Spend = £222.5 mil
There is your list mate
How about you now put up a list of the money we recouped from this players, bet the income wins
Is it not about liverpool creating a better side he left us a load of sh.. regardless of the money in and out we should have spent the money more wisely and have a team of solid players this is were he failed miserably thats the truth
Also add up the wages he was giving the players h bough eg deegan 60k deegan bout 40 to 60k jovanovic 90k ngog i also between 40 and 60k
pt
How about you now put up a list of the money we recouped from this players, bet the income wins plus add the Champions league income he brought into club.
Red Indian
19 May 2012 11:53:20
19 May 2012 10:24:58
Hi Ed's.
I want to try and clear everything up, so that everybody knows the manager situation, as of this morning. I would welcome if you could add anything I have missed. (These aren't my sources, just what the Ed's have said)
ASKED;
Rafa _ Accepted
Martinez _ Accepted
Pep _ Rejected
Kloop _ Rejected
Rodgers _ Rejected
Laudrup _ Accepted
Potential;
Didier Deschamps
AVB
Maybe;
Rodolfo Borrel
Pep Segura
Thanks Ed,
Hope this helps to stem the flow of questions.
Burnsy {Ed019's Note - Thanks mate}
All based on assumptions that people have rejected - not knowledge, do you not believe that if JW phoned Rodgers and offered him the job he would refuse.
Did we even contact pep?
De boar falls into which categorie
I'd like to see laudrup take charge
Has Guardiola definitely rejected, and do you know of interest of Capello
I personally would say Capello is a no because of wages and age.
De boar would probably be a maybe, as he is inexperienced.
However, I would expect them to be though of, maybe on a long list, but not on a short list.
I would appreciate the Ed's thoughts on these two.
And pep, well, is he's rejected Chelsea, telling them he definitely wants a year out, why would he come here, for a harder, more pressurized job, on far far lower wages. he wont, so that's why I believe he would reject us.
Burnsy {Ed002's Note - I don't see De Boer being an option.}
Deschamps for me
Its a no brainer....laudrup!!
Rodgers knows himself,hes not good enough.laudrup laudrup.
Klopp was not asked as they knew the answer was going to be no. He loves Dortmund and is contracted till 2016.
Yes, I people had read correctly, Rogers had rejected at this stage only. I can't believe anybody seriously believes he would reject the job if he was directly offered it or it narrowed down to say, 2 or 3. He clearly doesn't want to alienate his current employers, or the fans. I think that's obvious. I also like Laudrup, although I'd also be happy with AVD. Matt
Seriously would like AVB, something tells me it'd work. Chemistry and timing seems right and he has a point to prove. We are never gonna get him cheaper than he is now. They should ask him to name his terms and make him a negotiatedoffer.
Honest question. What happens when Rafa is at the interview and he lists what he has won throughout his career. there is no comparison
Guys how about Van Gaal ? is he in the List ?
19 May 2012 11:53:06
Just a thought re rafa. I'm personally on the fence as to whether Rafa should come back, but what has occured to me is that Stevie will be being asked about potnetial managers. I've never read his autobiography, but I get the impression that Gerrard stuggled a bit with Rafa's man management.
If he is being asked his opinion on the next manager (which I'm sure he is,) I wounder if he is having an effect upon the mangement's reluctance to turn to rafa.
I may be way off the mark, it's just a thought, not based on any evidence!
I read Stevie G's autobiography, i dont remember it word for word, but im sure he said that himself and Carra were consulted on the manager before Benitez was given the job and both of their reactions was that 'he had done an excellent job at Valencia, and they both believed if he could do it there he could do it for Liverpool. Then further into his autobiography im sure he said something along the lines of 'Rafa is a great manager for Liverpool, he has achieved many things, but not jus myself, others also thought that he could have done a little more towards man management, he never really ever said well done Stevie or anythin similar, i think this would have been a great help if he had done, but it jus wasnt the type of person he was.'
Like i said, i dont remember word for word, but it was along those lines.
Carb
The book is diplomatic. I think Gerrard does not like Rafa at all. I remember one game, where Rafa issued some instruction to Stevie, and the camera caught Gerrard clearly mouthing a word that made it clear what he thought of him.
If he has any input, there is little chance of a return.
Well I would hope that we would not be giving ANY player a veto over a new manager. dog,wagging and tail come to mind
Puzzled
19 May 2012 11:52:56
With Kenny taking things back to the Liverpool Way.. and over the last few months all information being kept in house with very little being leaked. FSG give little away also..
Now we are looking for a manager and information about who we are looking at is being leaked by various sources, some of which LFC have no control of Ie Whelan, But.. My thinking is this.. could it all be a smoke screen?.. leaking names of candidates so the press dont catch on to the real target?. Someone who is already being spoken with as we speak?
Who are the names NOT being mentioned?.
ItsNotRocketScience
Why does everything have to be a smokescreen? Why would FSG care if the press got hold of who our 'real target' was?
The Liverpool way is to do buisness behind closed doors! FSG have gone to great lengths to try and understand 'the liverpool way'.. they dont talk to the press.. they make desicions and go with it.
For some reason a lot of names are being mentioned by the press.. which means either the wrong names are being leaked or everyones just guessing.
I would love for FSG to make an announcement that blew everyone away..
ItsNotRocketScience
19 May 2012 11:51:25
Alright Ed's,
Do you know if it's possible that Rodolfo has been considered for the manager's job?
Thanks
Stu. {Ed002's Note - No idea Stu.}
I'd personally want him in charge of academy only, but that's just my opinion.
VM YNWA
I thought that too, but i was just considering him if there was a lack of options out there.
Stu.
I would liked to have seen rodolfo as asst manager 1st team
19 May 2012 11:50:58
Hi ed, sorry to bother you but you say AVB wasn't offered the job(s) he was hoping for, out of interest, where was it?
Thanks, great site!
Alec {Ed002's Note - One job is not available and the other was at Roma.}
19 May 2012 11:49:56
GREEDY KING KENNY
this piece was taken from the Liverpool echo this morning
Please don't tell me he's right he should walk away with compo after failing
"Kenny Dalglish has asked that the £8million compensation owed to him after his sacking be put towards new Liverpool signings. Amazing gesture," was tweeted and retweeted.
Angry phone calls were fielded at the Echo yesterday demanding to know why the story hadn't made it into print.
The simple reason is it's not true. The exact terms of Dalglish's severance package remain confidential but he rightly walked away with a generous pay-off and the figure was agreed by all parties involved.
One poster who claimed to be ITK said Kenny's pay-off was approx. 1 million - per the terms of his contract. Not that it matters much at this point, but I regard the 8 million figure as wildly overstated.
19 May 2012 11:44:05
Hey efs just sent a pist in clearing up a few managers forgot to mention any speculation about DOF is just that my friend when i asked him said you could hear ribs breaking they playing there cards so close to thier chest the staff dont even have a clue who it will be but he does think that a DOF will be apointed and we will find out a vouple of days later once again sorry for any spelling great site
19 May 2012 11:40:04
Ed(s),
Your saying Biesla can't be considered because he doesn't speak English but surely if we approached him we could have a interpreter for the interview and he could then learn basic English whilst the players are at the Euro's etc?
Tom. {Ed002's Note - I somehow doubt that is a viable option.}
Howcome though? Alot of managers have moved aborad and learnt the language prior the move.
Tom. {Ed002's Note - It takes a while to learn a language Tom. Having a manager who does not speak English would just be making matters difficult.}
Look at Capello coming to the England job, it hindered him to start with! I'd rather have a manager who could converse well with the players, rather than through an interpreter!
Keith
With English being the most spoken language in the world, with us being in England and havin quite a british backbone to the squad, its understandable that someone who speaks English is a much better option than someone who doesnt. Im not sayin English has to be the first language, but having someone like Capello would be pointless due to his long England carrer where he didnt really want to learn the language. But as example, someone like Mourinho, Wenger, Martinez, all options as they can speak English (not sayin there options, jus a explanation) So in my POV, someone who speaks no English at all is not a great option, even with the ability to learn the language, as the Ed002 said 'it takes a while to learn a new language' I jus dont think it would work.
Carb
Just cannot see owners hiring someone who speaks no Engiish. End of.
Communication is everything in running a successful organization.
19 May 2012 11:37:43
This is going to be a tough decision for FSG. Some of the candidates mentioned have already been ridiculed by the fans (e.g Martinez, Rogers). The best candidates are unavailable (Guardiola and Klopp).
I personally do not want to see Rafa come back, his tactics were far too negative and he consistently demands more funding. He leaks alot to the papers and pits people against each other.
However, he might be the only candidate who meets the fans requirements and has their full support. We really need the fans buzzing for the start of next season and have them fully behind the team. I would dread it turning into another Hodgson episode.
Eds your opinion please?
Long live the king
Rafa would not get my full support - he was manager for 5-years and he left the club in mess that we are still trying to fix.
I would rather Roy Evans returned, loves the club, we played great football under him and we never finished outside the top four with him.
I don't think he was ever given a fair chance at the club and was forced out.
JRG
Roy Evans is a reasonable shout, but is he out of date too, as some deemed Kenny to have been?
Keith
19 May 2012 11:36:16
What are your thoughts on rijkard for the managers job? Plays attacking football, has had some success, played the game at the highest level, could be a good fit?
Sigglebean
Rijkaard would be great for the Liverpool job.
He has a great knowledge of Dutch & Spanish football.
Has experience of winning CL & La Liga titles, pitted his wits against Jose Mourinho and come out on top.
Plus he has worked with Txixi Begiristain who could be the next DOF at the club.
Very surprised that he isn't on the shortlist.
I said a while ago and still think Frank Rijkaard might not be a bad shout.
Kev7
19 May 2012 11:34:13
Hi eds jus a few quick things to help clear stuff up
Capello is a no je is too old and his poor performance in the world cup has put the americans off
AVB is in contention but at 34 the board see him as too young to earn the repect of the older players and some of the more outspoken players ( suarez )
Benitez is the favourite i am being told from my contact at melwood and in a strange coincedence i was just on the phone to a friend who saw benitez in chester he asked him when he started as liverpool manager to which benitez smiled and said wait and see take from this what you will but i think he will be in cgarge again
As for martinez the yonks are not taking well to the adverse reaction of the fans and i am being told that his nickname of mr16th is being used by staff at melwood and the americans are not taking well to this i expect him to have his interview but no more will come of it and he will remain at wigan
Sorry i dont have anything on any of the other targets there is only much my friend would tell me sorty about any spelling mistakes once again great site keep it up
Wow that's some original bulls**t. We've never heard a rumour like that before.
Jonesred
19 May 2012 11:30:33
Stop taking Twitter and Tabloid stories as truth. It is very infuriating to see how many people seem to believe their stories then backlash against the club on rumours which are 99% lies.
Get behind the club. Get behind the owners. And Get behind the team! YNWA
Never believe the media, they only tell you what they want you to believe.
They are in it to make money and papers dont sell without stories.
Carb
19 May 2012 11:26:06
Hello Eds,
I'm glad that Andy and Steward are in the English squad for Euro. Maybe it'll boost them before the next season. But to be honest, as far as Andy is concerned - he's had a good end of the season but not much more. Steward had a pretty avarage campaigne. Why was he called? I'm a great fan of Downing but I expected much more this past season. Hope he'll deliver some good passes and score some goals next season.
For a second there i was wondering who this steward guy is
He's left footed, I think that's the only reason downing has been picked.
I agree andy should be going, he can change games.
MIKEY
Is that Downing's new position at the club - I know we are cost-cutting but this is ridiculous
Puzzled
I have a wine steward amongst my dining room staff. Is this the same person? Lord Lyver of Byrd.
19 May 2012 11:21:35
Hi eds,
The more research i do the more I like the look of Michael Laudrup. LFC supporter, plays similar formation to Rafa 4-2-3-1, but more free flowing attacking football, like we played in the season when we finished 2nd.
Okay I know he didn't have much luck in his last couple of jobs, but at Mallorca he saved a struggling team with no money and where most the main first team players had left, so I don't think he can be blamed too much for that one.
If he gets the job all we have to do then is get his brother to get 20 years younger and come out of retirement, i'd be happy!
SA
Michael was a far better player than Brian. Michael Laudrup is one of my favourite players of all time. It's a shame we didn't sign him in 1982 when we were so close to do so but we offered him 4yrs and he only wanted 3yrs. I like the idea of him coming as manager, his record is amazing but like you said there seems to be others reasons for that. If he came and was well backed and say with Tixi Bergasitrian (an old team mate of his) as the DoF? Who knows?
Brian Laudrup was a very good player, but Michael Laudrup was a notch or two higher. Great player.
19 May 2012 11:21:21
Out of all the names being linked I would go for AVB. Although he struggled at Chelsea, their players did not give him a proper chance. I do not want a defensive boring style of play and Rafa will take us back to that way of playing.
At least AVB's team will press forward and play attractive football. Steve Clark can look after the defensive side if AVB is in any way lacking in that department. A man who has won any domestic league in the manner AVB's team walked it must have some quality.
Except that they were doing it before him and are still doing it.
19 May 2012 11:19:16
Hi all,
I know their are a lot of us disappointed to see kenny go but we have no choice but to move on. I feel we have to try and look on the bright side any new manager worth his salt would not come in with no promise of big money to spend.
The choice of new manager is critical as we all know I feel it's the only way we will attract the calibre of players we need.
We have a few stumbling blocks in the way of attracting the right players.
1. We can't or won't pay 200k a week
2. We can't offer champs league football
3. We are not winning cup after cup season after season
To sum up the new and right appointment is critical.
We need the right man to attract the right player
Just my thoughts
Mo
19 May 2012 11:17:00
Michael Laudrup will be the next manager, with Txiki Begiristain becoming DoF. The two played together for years at Barcelona under Cruyff... wouldn't this be an attractive pairing?
19 May 2012 11:16:38
To me it appears Van Gaal does not fit the profile FSG are looking for. Of the rest mentioned Deschamps is a winner, AVB a winner, Rafa a winner. Who would best suit the club or best suit FSG profile. Rafa has some unfinished business and may have learnt a few lessons, however he didn't have the best relationship with some players. AVB lost the dressing room at Chelsea very quickly as did Roy with us and the consequences are usually dire. Deschamps would be a decent choice and has a profile that the ego's in the dressing room may give respect. It needs sorting very quickly as players will become restless and get tapped up.
Evo YNWA
19 May 2012 11:16:00
Right, I'm annoyed and cheesed off with how the media are reporting Rodgers and Klopp... they reject Liverpool! No, they have chosen to stay where they are... For Klopp I understand this more than Rodgers although I'm not a fan of bringing Rodgers in)
Klopp - in champions League and has just one league back-to-back, he wants to build on that further.
Rodgers - ambition is lacking, does not want to break our of comfort Zone. He'll have resources at Liverpool he could only dream of at Swansea. Next year Swansea could end up in a relegation battle, it's not implausible. I would not want him based on his lack of ambition alone.
AVB - he's half interested because no-one else is knocking on his door! Do a 6 month stint, if it doesn't work out get sacked with a nice few million pay off!
Capello - The don is interested in lining his retirement pockets, stay away. Chelsea want him for year to then go in for Pep and he'll wait for that pay day before looking at Liverpool.
Martinez - great guy and good coach but his credentials are - promoting Swansea into Championship and leaving it with Rodgers and then scrapping through relegation battles with Wigan. Might work out great - but big risk!
Laudrup - just got a feeling, no!
Pep - I think he's a man of his word and will take year out. I think he'd be half tempted if it was next year but he'll have so many teams clambering for his signature, it will be very expensive! his win rate is 75% - this is amazing!
Deschamps - now he intrigues me, seems a good guy and would hope he is more contention than Martinez.
Frank Rikaard - the outsider nobody has mentioned in the running. He has a history of flops if you take away his Barcelona days.
After Kloop and Pep say no, Rafa seems like the only option for me- boring footy but more effective and better tactically. I think we'd win more games at home and be higher up that league for sure. Winning cups - not sure.
19 May 2012 11:13:59
Laudrup is 80/1 on Betfair, 25 everywhere else.
Ultra red
19 May 2012 11:10:06
Does anyone think that the players heads went down after the Evra thing and they knew KK was not going to be the boss next season? Might explain the serious dip in form?
iggypop
Their heads went down when they played Arsenal off the park and lost in the dying seconds!..
The Suarez debarcle bought unwanted bad press which most definatley bothered the team.. but imo Evras antics after prolly bonded them ,..
Pressure built up over the season.. expectations, price tags, lack of goals, last season was a self destruct from start to finish!.. letting Sunderland back in to game one - not turning up on too many occaisions - losing to swansea, wigan, QPR
Whoever comes in next needs to be a fantastic man manager and get these players confidence back.. cos we aint far off being a great team.
ItsNotRocketScience
Its funny i often wonder how the season may have played out differently if downings drive against sunderland had gone in and not hit the bar....
"Whoever comes in next needs to be a fantastic man manager and get these players confidence back.."
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Kenny was as good a man manager as any.
VM YNWA
19 May 2012 11:04:54
Rafael Benitez didn't fail Liverpool, Hicks & Gillette failed him and ultimately forced him to make some dodgy signings based on a low budget and try out new tweaks that inevitably cost him and the team. He wasn't a complete failure at Inter Milan neither, he won a couple trophies. No one's perfect, even the great King Kenny. Rafael Benitez is the most suitable candidate, he's a master tactician, he has a great eye for talent and his record speaks for himself. IMO Rafael Benitez has never left the game, if he was offered another chance, with the right backing, he will deliver. He knows where he went wrong and has listened to the criticism. Alot of people say that we can't hire him because we want to move forwards, the fact is we moved so far backwards at the time when he left that hiring him now would be moving forwards and would actually be picking up from where we left off. Rafa loves Liverpool! Rafa lives in Liverpool, he is the best candidate out there for the job, we can't afford any more risks this summer, it's make or break and don't forget all we're asking of the new manager is to sign 5 quality players good enough to help the current squad finish 4th above spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal, I'm sure Rafa believes he can do that and so do I. o Trialist
Registered: 17/05/12 Posts: 3
Rafael Benitez didn't fail Liverpool, Hicks & Gillette failed him and ultimately forced him to make some dodgy signings based on a low budget and try out new tweaks that inevitably cost him and the team. He wasn't a complete failure at Inter Milan neither, he won a couple trophies. No one's perfect, even the great King Kenny. Rafael Benitez is the most suitable candidate, he's a master tactician, he has a great eye for talent and his record speaks for himself. IMO Rafael Benitez has never left the game, if he was offered another chance, with the right backing, he will deliver. He knows where he went wrong and has listened to the criticism. Alot of people say that we can't hire him because we want to move forwards, the fact is we moved so far backwards at the time when he left that hiring him now would be moving forwards and would actually be picking up from where we left off. Rafa loves Liverpool! Rafa lives in Liverpool, he is the best candidate out there for the job, we can't afford any more risks this summer, it's make or break and don't forget all we're asking of the new manager is to sign 5 quality players good enough to help the current squad finish 4th above spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal, I'm sure Rafa believes he can do that
and so do I.
Regards,
Daniel Hanwell
100% correct.
But his football is boring. Is that not relevant, Daniel?
cozinoz
Same reply to all you Benitez lovers - it's about winning things - not rankings or coming 4th - as a supporter I like to see silverware. 2 trophies in 6 years ( 4 if you count 1 of games ) Massive NO to his return, there has to be a reason why he hasn't been offered another job, there have been plenty of vacancies all over Europe.
I know it sounds good but the fact is that he plays too defensively and often enough we seen too many occasions where his decisions failed us e.g. subbing torres off when we were beating everton 1-0 he also singed a massive number of crap such as aqualiani. don't get me wrong i used to chant his name in the kop and was angry at his departure but i think that it will not improve us
Do you know what Daniel the more I consider the other options the more I come back to Rafa. It's the least risky option and he'd hit the ground running making top 4 a realistic aim. The Academy set up all instigated by him too from McParlands blueprint and the hiring of Borrell and Segura. Club playing 4-2-3-1 at all age groups and so if Rafa can buy into a panel of decision makers he's the smartest option. At has said there's no age profile and when they look into the whites of the candidates ey and weigh things up I think they might just decide Rafa offers the best chance of short and medium term success. We know he lov the club.....
1 trophy plus another final in 1 and a half season and a certain manager got sacked! The Owners want the Champions League because that's where the money is!
I never got bored of Rafa qualifying us for Champions League and getting to semis and finals and winning it.
He has been offered jobs he turned them down.
Jonesred
Actually mate the reason why is cos after inter he wanted back at anfield and we did fail raffa not the other way round and tbh the carling cup woohooo are kids sunday leauge trophies better so ye i would swap the cup for a CL place because that attracts big names not 8th place and a carling cup
I'd rather win ugly than lose playing beautyful.
Cheers
Des
Whether his football was boring to you is irrelevant, when I watched his team play, what I saw was a team that was defensively organised, sometimes immaculate, their home record was second to none and they had players who were patient enough to play counter attacking football. What he did in the academy was incredible, he was creating an empire at Anfield but got cut short by the owners. What he left behind was a work in progress. Anfield was still a fortress and we were in the Champions League every year, we came 2nd in the league too. Ok, he made decisions fans didn't always agree with but that happens with every manager, what matters is the opportunity for success is still there and the respect we got from top clubs was always paid.
Daniel Hanwell
19 May 2012 11:01:21
ed i think that we need some1 2 keep the pass and move and keep the pride in playing 4 lfc if you cold pick a realistic target who would you pick ed ? (an news on DOF) and what about the reserve team manager {Ed019's Note - Borrell would do a good job}
We've got 60 Million plus funds from sales ed.
Daniel Hanwell
I agree which is why i don't want benitez
Benitez could buy a truckload of foreign dros with that kind of money...
19 May 2012 10:59:42
GOOD NEWS: FSG will give to new manager around 100-120 millions for transfers this summer. He will have 2 season to take LFC in top 4.
{Ed019's Note - We have not got 100m to give}
Dalglish had one season to get them in the top 4 so this would be slightly unfair
ED019, You have no ides how much they can afford,within the fsg setup there are very wealthy backers,do your research before making a statement,trust me liverpool CAN afford 100-120 mil. i remember chris evens was on radio when they took over,he said he was at the same f1 as henry and was gobsmacked by some of the people hes invoved with,he said they have a lot more money in and around them than anybody could imagine,he went on to talk about 1 of the guys who he refused name saying he was the richest guy he knows without doubt and its only positive for liverpool,they have mega resources {Ed001's Note - you don't understand, they are not in it to splash cash willy nilly. It matters little how much they actually have, it is what they are willing to spend.}
Live in the US and my dad is a senior tax advisor for Ernst and Young who has worked with FSG before and he said some people on here are really underestimating how much they are willing to spend for success. Maybe not this transfer window but once they know they have the manager they want for the long term he said dont be surprised to see the money flowing in. He also expects FSG to get bigger in the near future.
19 May 2012 10:59:01
With no disrespect to kenny intended, i for one am 100% behind fsg and what they are trying to achieve.
kenny was brought into steady the ship and build a solid foundation from which to build, that has now been achieved.
fsg want to compete with the top teams, this much is clear but unfortunately people seem to forget just how bad a position we were in just two years ago.
hodgson was brought in because nobody else had the balls to take the job on, this failed miserably with poor buys/tactics and a very thin squad with no back up.
Kenny was then approached mainly due to public demand and the iconic status he maintains within the club and with the fans to attempt to achieve this.
the jobs Kenny and comolli were brought into do have been achieved, i personally don't see it a failure.
we now have a pretty solid squad when all fit, we won the Carling cup, final of the fa cup were back in Europe, ok the league position is grim to say the least but look at the season overall, up until Lucas getting injured we were flying, we've lost for large parts of the season Lucas,suarez,agger,Gerrard,Adam,carol, we've hit the post and cross bar over 40 times, this is by no means an excuse but during this time Ive seen our team playing some of the best football Ive seen them play for a long number of years so just look at how different the season could have been.
FSG have a vision and i believe they will achieve this, the manager they bring in needs to be relatively young, this is a long term project but needs to be executed as quickly as possible, this is not the job for a 61 year, legend or not.
Ive been a fan for 30 years now and Ive seen the good times and the bad, but i'm prepared to be patient again if the end product is worth waiting for and i believe it will be.
the job needs to go to a young manager who has the hunger and drive for success who will stay with club for 10/20 years like then mangers of arsenal/man utd, this is the only way long term success can work.
backed up financially with the right youth set up, coaching staff and scouts.
were about 4 quality players short of making a real noise again, we know it, FSG know it, everybody knows it including potential managers.
whoever is brought in has now got a young solid foundation to work from, a few quality additions, a bit of luck and most of all our support and things are going to be just fine.
remember money talks and these boys have got plenty of that, i don't for one minute believe they haven't got a plan in place already.
The old king is dead
long live the king
whoever is brought in will get my backing 100%
FSG please don't prove me wrong
Jaydee YNWA.
ps good luck bayern munich
please post this EDs it took me ages to write lol.
19 May 2012 10:58:31
Looks like its going to be an exciting and hectic 2 weeks:-
"This view that there is a crisis and everyone is leaving is wrong, it's just a time based thing. When anyone leaves you have to go through the process of finding a replacement and moving forward.
"It's fair to say we are fairly imminent on a lot of positions that have exited. What you will see over the next two weeks is those new people arriving and a momentum of going forward.
"There will be new people arriving with new energy and new initiatives. For all the negativity that has existed in the last six to eight weeks, you will see a lot of positivity around the new appointments with their experience and what they will deliver."
Taken straight from LFC website!
19 May 2012 10:52:35
So eds, with Jen Chang joining, do you think that'd have any impact on Suarez? Chang was vocal in his support for Suarez at the time and being a LFC fan I'm sure he's aware what a special player he is.
I respect the ed's opinion obviously but I have a feeling he's going to stay. Wishful thinking maybe. {Ed019's Note - I doubt Chang would affect Suarez}
19 May 2012 10:51:17
(Liverpool)Ed's personally who would you prefer to get the job and help us reach Champions league next season?
Roberto Martinez-Well like Jose Mourinho. .there's something special about this lad.Great manager but risky.
Jorgen Klopp-Two consecutive Bundesliga titles and 5-6 consecutive wins against Bayern Munich that's unheard off.I don't know if he speaks english but would help a lot.
Harry Redknapp-Top manager. .i don't know why he is not on the shortlist.Helped Tottenham a lot and does some wise transfer dealings.Came close to signing Javier Mascherano and Luis Fabiano.
Andre Villas Boas-Underated following his unsuccesful stint at Chelsea. .top manager and would prove a lot of doubters wrong with a top 3 finish.Bought Falcao for a bargain.
Rafal Benitz-My personal favourite. .would fortify our squad with a couple of spanish talent.
Made a mistake with the Gareth Barry saga.
I'm not saying any of the above mentioned managers will get the job.
Everytime when i'm browsing the site i'm reading about this and that. .guys if you are guessing and you don't have nothing to post please do us a favour and keep your information to yourself.
Imagine if you wer one of the Ed's and had to answer ne question a hundred times.
Yes we want the best for the club(Pep Gurdiola and Jose Mourinho) but they will never come to the club at the moment.
You wer in a plane and you saw Martinez and asked him if he was considerd?Did you think he would tell you?I'm friends with someone who plays for the reserves?Then what?
This site would be better without you people.
I only post when there is something reliable to share while some of you post utter crap daily.
Ask yourself why Macca doesn't post everyday even though he has access to some of the information at the club?
I joined the site while i was reading about the Theo Walcott and Ryan Babel swap saga but still most of you don't know me,I don't post to be respected or to be famous but to enlighten you when there is something.
Cheers!
Nile Anderson {Ed019's Note - I would love AVB, Laudrup, Bielsa, van Gaal or Klopp. I think any of them could be successful, but Klopp has ruled himself out and Bielsa doesn't speak english}
Sorry, but I stopped reading when you compared Roberto Martinez to Jose Mourinho.
19 May 2012 10:50:24
Hi Ed's, Macca
Any idea if we are considering asking Norwich for permission to speak to Lambert. Not saying I want him but if Martinez, Brenda Rogers were asked surely he must be under consideration? Took his coaching badges in Germany, won Champs league etc. Seems worth an interview?
Cheers,
Jackal {Ed019's Note - No idea, but I think the owners would take a look}
19 May 2012 10:48:59
just read the best post ever FSG sell up ha the spirit of shankly is on the march again yanks out, yanks in
guess what they call king kenny now???? kenny.
steblue69
19 May 2012 10:47:03
I did not want kenny sacked , i think he should of been given another year , we have not played pass and move football for years ,but how can the people say the owners know what they are doing when they give King Kenny A THREE YEAR DEAL ,he was never going to leave for another club ,he should have been given a rolling year contract ,so now it means we have to pay the rest of his contact out , a article out the guardian paper quote a figure of £8.4 million , to pay off kenny and his backroom staff , and yes king kennys lovers this is a guy who loves the club my arse he will take his money like the rest of them , and run back onto the golf course.Good old greedy kenny laughing all the way to bank !!
Have you ever worked a day in your life ? A contract is between two parties and FSG broke it by sacking him, therefore, he is entitled to be paid something, you moron. Unnamed ignorant idiots like you give this site a bad name with every passing day.
Cork Red Boi
He has given his money from his contract towards the transfer budget you moron. ed's please post this.
The Truth
Actually, word on the street his KK declined his payoff and asked for it to be invested in the team. That is class and love of the club. Use the search button and google? Disrepectful to say the least....oh and sign yer posts!
Iggypop
I think youll find that KK has not taken a penny & has asked for it to be put towards a players fund.
I think you should go back to your own page as this one is for fans of an amazing bloke who loves the club.
Ultra red
Have you ever worked at a place you love and enjoyed it? Then company goes bust and redundancies arise.. Take it your one of the few who wouldn't take redundancy package due to the fact you loved the company so much.
Your comments are offensive and disrespectful to anyone within a club.
Not Dalglish's fault they sacked him is it?
Please read today's papers greedy kenny Did take the clubs money and never said to owners keep it and buy a player
Rumour has it, he said to FSG to stick it in the transfer kitty.
Kenny failed and was sacked because of that reason ,why take the clubs money for being a failure in the form of compo, if he loves the club he should have walked and said to the yonks put the money towards paying compo to the club in which my replacement will come from
'not Dalglish's fault they sacked him is it?'-- er.... well yes it was
Puzzled
Puzzled
I forgot that Liverpool arnt about trophy winning anymore, or days out at fancy stadiums for finals.
Your right! Dalglish failed. He failed because he diddnt finish in the top 4. He failed because he believe in sticking up for his club and players. He failed because he wasnt 'YES' enough. He failed because he wouldnt let the media take advantage.
Your right!
Let's hope we get a yes manager next
19 May 2012 10:46:58
As the media are suggesting, we are going to interview around 12 candidates for the job. We should be setting our standards high and not even considering a Martinez or Rodgers. How can you even compare Guardiola and Rodgers or Mourinho and Martinez? Agree?
{Ed019's Note - The owners want to interview a variety of candidates to make sure they employ the right man}
19 May 2012 10:45:00
hi eds...am from mauritius...i was just thinking that perhaps the whole saga was decided after the chelsea game and that FSG may have already chosen the next manager and the talks by ayre is just a smokescreen to have time.
I do think that they are professionals(am one) and we work according to some set of rules whereby success is very important. We have to take into consideration that we fans wanted KK back. We will surely miss him but I do think that KK already knew who was going to replace him.
We can have a shock at the announcement of the new manager. Hopefully, it would not be martinez or any premier league managers. I think it would be a new one.
Your thoughts would be warmly welcomed. Thank You. YNWA.
{Ed019's Note - I think the manager will be a new one, and I trust Ed002 in saying that Dalglish was a goner since the day he used the Suarez shirts at Wigan}
19 May 2012 10:41:04
ah well looks like Rodgers is a man u fan well buggrim Marcelo Bielsa will be better El Loco YEAH
{Ed019's Note - Sadly, Bielsa isn't an option as he doesn't speak English}
You know some stuff ed019, how do you know biesla dont speak english? im sure he prob talks at least basic english. i live in sweden and even the 60-70 year old people can talk basic! {Ed001's Note - he is Argentinean, there is more chance he can speak Welsh than English. English is not liked there, while they have over 50% of the Welsh speaking population of the world. Unless he has taken lessons recently, it is highly unlikely he can speak English, unfortunately. I have been trying to find out for definite, but I am not getting any replies from anyone connected with him.}
Bielsa is scientific a big plus with john henry also your havering wi yon welsh speaking argies thing he could sign efter he signs
19 May 2012 10:39:23
In addition to the rumours of Pepe having itchy feet, if he were to go would there be any interest in Craig Gordon, just been released by Sunderland and would be an ideal first team replacement? If we received 8 to 10m for Pepe that money could be reinvested in other areas of the first team.
If Skrtel wants to go for bigger money let him go, i'd rather see players who are totally committed to the shirt, would also release money for reinvestment. I'd promote Coates and bring Wilson back from his loan spell.
Would like to get a manager in that would promote from within, we def have a few kids ready to be in the first team squad. And please tell me if it's just me but why don't we play Kelly at RB and push on Johnson (like Bale at Spurs) and solve our RW problem in one go???
Red Scouse
(Southern section)
We should be looking for at least 18-25 million for pepe hes still one of the best around even with the bad season hes just had. do agree thou that gordon would be a good signing esp on the free him an doni would be good competition for each other.
belfast red adam
Gordon is a good keeper but is way to injury prone.
Skurks
He's a great lad, but tbh I'm not sure if Wilson is going to have enough quality.
Like Spearing, he's almost there, but not quite.
For me, Johnson's attacking play, although good, is still not quite good enough or consistent enough for a full-on attacking RW.
If a RW is what the club needs, we should be looking at players of the calibre of Adam Johnson or better.
19 May 2012 09:48:37
I've got a really good feeling about Andre villas boas, somthin is telling me he is what we need. Let's face it, he is miles apart from Martinez. We need to forget what happens at Chelsea, he was treated unfairly, similar way hodgeson was at Liverpool really. Let's give him a chance to prove himself.
You think Hodgson was treated unfairly?!
I cannot put my finger on why exactly but i also have this gut feeling that AVB is the one we need it mainly because that chelsea just wasnt the right fit ( mind you they have had loads of top managers that didnt last !)
19 May 2012 10:38:27
hey eds , who do you'll think will be appointed first ? DOF or a manager ? and any idea by when (approx) ?
-RED INDIAN {Ed019's Note - I think the DOF should be appointed first}
19 May 2012 10:38:20
Ed002, with AVB seemingly on LFCs managerial target list, I'd be very grateful for your opinion on his qualities.
I've heard Chelsea fans saying things like he's tactically inflexible, or that he doesn't seem to have a plan B if things don't go the way he wants, or that he struggles to handle big personalities, and I heard a couple expressing ironic delight at the idea that he might manage LFC.
I haven't heard very many saying good things about him, and as you can imagine, that is a concern.
I can quite believe it is a case of fans being impatient, ignorant, negative, and fickle (as is demonstrated on the LFC banter page as soon as a player misses a pass).
But whatever the reasons and however unlucky he may have been, failure in the league is still failure (as it was in Kenny's case), and I wondered what you thought about his performance at Chelsea, and his prospects for developing further as a manager and delivering success at LFC?
{Ed019's Note - I quite like AVB along with Ed022, and I think he is a very good manager and would do well with us. At Chelsea, he just wasn't given a chance, and the players didn't perform for him}
19 May 2012 09:55:32
I'm not quite sure I understand all the people on this site and in the media who have called us deluded for approaching Guardiola.
I don't think he'll come but surely it would be remiss of the owners to not at least ask?
Out of the names being thrown around I think I'd opt for Laudrup
Chris in Tamworth
Chris my feeling is that it is between AVB, Laudrup and Deschamps , Who i would pick ... err umm Laudrup but i am worried he doesn't hang around anywhere, Would be happy with any of them though
Guinnessred8
19 May 2012 09:55:18
Michael Owen can jog on as far as I am concerned... NEVER NEVER NEVER !
Why he is even getting a mention i'll never know. Since leaving us he has made about 100 appearances. In 8 years that's piss poor. He would spend his whole time injured. And he is a mercenary, hope he can stare at his winners medal and know he did bugger all to earn it. NEVER want to see him back at our club, even on the opposition treatment table.
19 May 2012 09:54:27
Whether people agree or not, we as supporters of LFC need to be careful how we act from now on.
There has been a lot of media coverage of our club over the past few years and a lot of it is negative.
There is also a lot of information on websites and forums where we are moaning, complaining etc.
We effectively made it difficult for Roy to stay in the job.
The same could also be said of making it difficult for the owners to not employ KK at that time too.
Now we could be seen as driving potential managers away before they even arrive.
The managers job is starting to look very similar to the poisoned chalice that is the England managers job.
Why would you want to leave your current club to take up a job where you already have a lot of supporters hoping you fail because you are not KK?
Why, as a player, would you consider joining us when we chastise virtually every player that has joined in the last 5 years.
Where is the famous support and atmosphere that we used to be well known for at Anfield - the 12th man????? ring any bells???
Whoever is appointed as manager and whichever player joins, we need to get behind them 100%!!
I can only assume that the idiots that disagree with this post are trolls from other clubs pages or actual LFC fans that don't have a clue.
If you have pressed disagree, why don't you leave a comment as to why you think we shouldn't get behind the new manager 100% and why we shouldn't give our players a chance??
Hiring Kenny was always going to create this problem. As you say, it has poisoned the job somewhat.
Now you see why, after Shankly resigned, the Board refused to allow him to return to the club and hang around the premises.
Today, Liverpool fans live in the past (who can blame them?). But it has held us back. And FSG unwittingly fed the beast by hiring Kenny.
19 May 2012 10:34:21
{Ed023's note: Day Of Destiny football tips right here: www.footballrumoursbets.co.uk/index.php - cheers}
19 May 2012 10:34:04
Sky Sports understands former Denmark star Michael Laudrup is a contender for the vacant manager's job at Liverpool.
19 May 2012 10:30:34
Hi Guys, Just a question to the Ed's and the fans of Liverpool, If steve clark is not gone as yet ( read that he asked to leave but it was turned down) do you think that FSG is going to interview him for the Managers job? or has he got another job in the club somewhere? I am from South Africa and would like to know as there is little news about the interviews of managers here. Thanks in advance.
YNWA {Ed019's Note - You never know, they could if they wanted to, but I doubt it}
19 May 2012 10:27:47
Liverpool are reportedly considering a move for CSKA Moscow striker Seydou Doumbia, after the appointment of Kenny Dalglish's successor.
The 24-year-old Ivorian scored 33 goals in 41 appearances for his current employers last season, and has also been linked with a transfer window move to Chelsea.
Manchester United, Tottenham and Napoli have also been named as potential suitors for Doumbia, but it is Liverpool who appear to be ready to formalise their interest
Do you know if this is true eds? {Ed019's Note - No idea}
If this happens then it's not the manager who picks the players but someone within or maybe the board.
If this happens then Dalglish and Benitez deserve an appollogy for their poor signing's when clearly they didn't sign anyone.
Benitez? It was an entirely different ownership and management structure back then - you can't come to conclusions about that time based on what goes on now.
Kieran
19 May 2012 10:25:29
More of a question to the eds you said Laudrup his favoured to take over.
Can you provide some insight on how the set up of the team would be with him? i know its a big if but i'd really appreciate your response
Cheers {Ed019's Note - I don't know much about him bar the fact he was an amazing player and likes to play attacking football}
19 May 2012 10:21:59
i am finding it harder and harder to read some of the posts on this site. Slagging players, managers and now the owners, it makes me a little ashamed of being a liverpool fan.
I would expect comments like these on the Chelsea or Arsenal sites but never thought I would see such comments on a liverpool site. We have always been loyal and intelligent supporters who were realistic in what we could and can achieve.
We have slagged off a manager who has given us the champions league, slagged off a legend who gave us our first trophy in 6 years, slagged off the best keeper we have had, slagged the second best player and captain who single handed won us the champions league, slagged one of our most committed defenders and clubmen in our history and now we are slagging every manager who is linked to us unless they are Pep (never in a million years) Guadiola or a man who openly stated he hates Liverpool, the former Chelsea manager.
We have to remember we were days away from going bust and FSG came in and saved us and now we are turning against them. They have cleared our debts, invested in the team and now are restructuring for the future, not a bad start I say.
We need a reality check and realise where we are, we need a massive re-building process that may take some years to complete and we need to be patient, and have trust in those in charge and we need to support who ever comes in whether thats players, managers, DOF and and owners. Who are we to judge if we are not sitting across a table listening to the proposals and ideas of our future manager and senior management.
All the negetivity is breeding a new type of supporter, one who want instant success and want owners to spend obscene amounts of money for short term goals without a thought for the future. The current owners are trying to put the foundations for a solid sustained successful future, we must credit them for this and trust and support them or they may just walk away and leave us where we were a couple of years ago.
I say be patient and trust the people at the top who are working tirelessly to make us a force once more, these guys are not in this for fun they want a return on their investment and will do all they can to make us a success i am sure. Putting Kenny in to steady the ship was a great idea that worked believe it or not, now we need to move on take the club to the next step.
Lets be patient and let the people in the know sort out our future and we as Liverpool supporters should totally support them and the club, that is the only way forward, you'll never walk alone.
Rant Over
Evered
Evered a life long Liverpool fan
19 May 2012 10:21:59
Ed, I remember you saying not too long ago that the owners were interested in bringing AVB in as manager before Kenny got the permanent job. Surely if this is the case, AVB has a pretty good chance of getting the job if approached? Cheers
ToonRed {Ed002's Note - Possibly but there has been a hiccup in his career since then.}
19 May 2012 10:19:28
Jorgen Doppelganger has appeared as the front runner for the vacant post according to social media. Apparently Jorgen has never kicked a ball but is a keen chess player and has won many titles with FCKU Bumberg.
Critics point out that "Mullet of the year" and guessing the Eurovision song contest winner for the past three years are not worthy titles.
One of his main strengths is multitasking, there's no doubt that he would be able to be both Manager and DOF at the same time.
Sign him now Liverpool, now, before its too late.
Press agree if you agree disagree if you disagree and undecided if you are undecided.
19 May 2012 10:19:06
The whole thing is a total cock up and it does not matter if they get it right we are a laughing stock we must all agree on this and take action to stop this rot of Liverpool FC all you true fans in England get together in the biggest show of support and the world protest in the street on the Internet by letter whatever it takes this is about our game being taken away from us it has got to stop {Ed002's Note - I rather think "stopping the rot" is exactly what the owners are trying to do. Perhaps supporting them is a better idea?}
Exactly Ed, maybe a little support would go a long way
Evered
Just like the last americans, businessmen are all the same there is no love for the club it's money money money if they could get away with putting less money they would
Worst post ever on this site - LFC are not a laughing stock at all, they are going through a process of finding a new manager like any other side would.
Would love to know what team you follow, because it certainly isn't LFC.
True fans in England?!?! So you're saying that people in New Zealand, Australia, America and everywhere in the world are not 'true fans'. I get up at 3am in the morning every sunday and monday to watch my team play football and win, lose or draw I always support them. Get a grip mate because you just made a complete jerk of yourself
The owners have forfeited their right to automatic support from the fans in acting rashly, not having any idea whether a suitable manager would be available, betraying the traditions of the club, and leaving the club lagging light years behind rival clubs before the first ball of the new season has even been kicked. Yes, great job, so far. No wonder, as a Chelsea fan, Ed 002 is advocating that Liverpool fans should back the owners. I am sure there are plenty of Manchester United fans who are equally delighted with FSG's antics.
Red Owl
19 May 2012 10:25:37
Theres only one man for me and that is Benitez... Say what you want about the guy but there is no doubting he was an exceptional manager. We were ranked number one in europe, champions league win with an average team, 2nd champions league final, FA CUP, League Cup final and we had a shout at the league. All with a net spend of about £80m over 6 years... he made a few mistakes in the transfer market granted but who hasn't? Loves the club, loves the fans, has all the experience and would come at the drop of the hat...
If these yanks really know their stuff then they should be on the phone to the guy and get him in asap.
Kopper
(In rumours please ed if possible)
We love you rafa we do oh rafa we love u!
19 May 2012 10:25:05
Who has had an interview ? And who now looks likely to have one ?
Great site and thanks {Ed019's Note - Try reading the post from Burnsy}
19 May 2012 10:24:58
Hi Ed's.
I want to try and clear everything up, so that everybody knows the manager situation, as of this morning. I would welcome if you could add anything I have missed. (These aren't my sources, just what the Ed's have said)
ASKED;
Rafa _ Accepted
Martinez _ Accepted
Pep _ Rejected
Kloop _ Rejected
Rodgers _ Rejected
Laudrup _ Accepted
Potential;
Didier Deschamps
AVB
Maybe;
Rodolfo Borrel
Pep Segura
Thanks Ed,
Hope this helps to stem the flow of questions.
Burnsy {Ed019's Note - Thanks mate}
19 May 2012 10:22:45
there is so much traffic on the site i cant keep up with who is on the short list for managers. can one of the eds post a list of known candidates please?
Red Rout {Ed019's Note - There is no confirmed list, but some of the managers we have been/will be talking to are Martinez, Rafa, Laudrup, AVB. Try reading the posts on the rumour page from yesterday/day before}
19 May 2012 10:13:37
Ill get slated for this but....If its an up and comer were set on having then what about Di Canio?.......Was that tumbleweed?..........Seriously with an experienced assistant or DOF he could be a gem, would certainly bring passion back to the club..........
Dont slate me too much ive just woken up lol!
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
I would go back to bed if I was you
Maybe i will lol.........maybe i was just having a bad dream pmsl!............aaah well back to the normal everyday rumours of Martinez and Guardiola lol!
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
19 May 2012 10:10:13
Theres only one man for me and that is Benitez... Say what you want about the guy but there is no doubting he was an exceptional manager. We were ranked number one in europe, champions league win with an average team, 2nd champions league final, FA CUP, League Cup final and we had a shout at the league. All with a net spend of about £80m over 6 years... he made a few mistakes in the transfer market granted but who hasn't? Loves the club, loves the fans, has all the experience and would come at the drop of the hat...
If these yanks really know their stuff then they should be on the phone to the guy and get him in asap.
Kopper
The yanks know their stuff, that's why they are not chomping at the bits to bring RB back. They want to make sure they get the right man - the one they want, not what the fans want. Singred
And only 2 trophies - football should be about winning, not ranking or coming second, or even fourth.
19 May 2012 10:09:20
Reading through the vast amount of stuff on here and deduced a few things. We need to get our man, and quick, decide who want and give them whatever they need to come.
With numerous managers rejecting us it, our desirability is being demolished for reputable managers.
Rodgers would rather stay at mid table Swansea than come to Liverpool, but that makes me want him more, his loyalty is a thing the kop would worship.
Klopp would rather stay with the 4/5th best known club in Germany than one of the most famous in the world.
Can you imagine if Martinez turned us down?
I still say it was the right move to change management, we just need to be more attacking in getting our man.
Anfield Andy
Anfield Andy you are a tool
Waro
19 May 2012 10:04:36
Cant wait for this documentary to come out
Cp {Ed002's Note - I am not sure what the plans are about showing it in England just yet. It will be shown in September or October in the States. The last two football documentaries they did saw one (Manchester City) eventually shown in the UK but well after the US airing and I am not sure if the other was shown at all in the UK.}
19 May 2012 09:44:55
Gary Neville......... New Liverpool manager? :}
He's turned it down.
DaveyBootle
You must be joking I know every one said they'd get behind the manager who ever he is but i for one wouldn't support rat face managing our team?
With Evra as his assistant.
19 May 2012 09:39:22
I was disappointed when Ian Ayre got the MD role at our club. Yes he did a great job as Commercial Director but his severe lack of leadership this season has become so apparent that I just cannot understand how he has survived.
He has been one big PR disaster right from when he announced he was pro the premier league game being played abroad and insulting Bolton in the process. John Henry had to contact bolton chairman to apologise. His handling of the Suarez case should have been much better. In the last day our twitter feed had a poll on who the fans thought should be the next manager which was then retracted and being labelled as a bit of fun.
Ian Ayre is in charge of the day to day running of the club. He is not competent enough to do so and in my opinion he should have been the first one to go.
I am not complaining that FSG are making wholesale changes. They came in and said they would take time and evaluate the club and now it seems they are implementing their vision. I will evaluate the next season after the changes have taken place and judge them on the status of the club.
In my opinion and at this moment in time the one remaining position which should be changed based on his very poor performance in the last year is Ian Ayre.
What do you know about running a Multi million pound business to be judging someone else in the Role!!
Just running your mouth off
The whole site is about banter and rumour. Instead of shooting the messenger, why dont you give a constructive view.
Is this Ian Ayre who has replied?
19 May 2012 09:36:24
Whoever they appoint, the master stroke would be to promote Carra to Assistant Manager, someone who knows the club and who can assist in holding the dressing room. Similar set to Houllier and Thomo.
Ozone
I'd miss that high-pitch "gettttttttt outtttttttttt" scream so it would be nice to continue it from the sidelines. I'd go along with what you have said but I'd prefer a reserve team manager position, the problem is, it's filled by a capable manager.
DaveyBootle
19 May 2012 09:34:31
can we bring bk owen on a pay as you play contract ??
A NEVER play as you pay contract
You mean!!
Why would we want the weasel back anyway
Lyndon
Liverpool are in enough mess without taking spam rejects and in my opinion he should never wear a lfc shirt again he well and truly burnt his bridges
Hope this never happens... not good enough for us. We have let our standards drop far enough over the last few years. We are Liverpool not Wigan
Didn't he say the last 3 years at Manchester United have been his greatest experience?..
Funny thing is ..
At Liverpool he was worshiped and Englands 1st name on international duty.
At Newcastle he was worshiped (he wasn't great to Newcastle due to his injuries but the faithful still loved him), an England regular.
Man United he's injury prone with millions of nicknames to his credit and England careers gone for a burton.
At Man U things couldn't have got any worse for him. Even when fully fit he was still on the bench. He never really got the chance there.
He'll DEFFO go to Everton.
DaveyBootle
The same owen that said it was his dream to play for Manchester United?
Slimboy
19 May 2012 09:28:49
I for 1 am glad liverpool are talking 2 a good few managers 2 hear there blueprint 2 take this gr8 club forward and will get behind whoever we hire
That's exactly what they want us to think but I'll put my house on it we end up with the cheapest out the bunch. This lot are cost cutting obsessed.
Ozone
19 May 2012 09:18:47
Accotlrding to bbc football pundit on bbc website currently he says andre vilas boas to liverpool is "gathering pace". Would be a masterstroke as john barnes said hed have better egos to work with.
19 May 2012 09:17:33
Looks like its going to be an exciting and hectic 2 weeks:-
"This view that there is a crisis and everyone is leaving is wrong, it's just a time based thing. When anyone leaves you have to go through the process of finding a replacement and moving forward.
"It's fair to say we are fairly imminent on a lot of positions that have exited. What you will see over the next two weeks is those new people arriving and a momentum of going forward.
"There will be new people arriving with new energy and new initiatives. For all the negativity that has existed in the last six to eight weeks, you will see a lot of positivity around the new appointments with their experience and what they will deliver."
Taken straight from LFC website! {Ed002's Note - One wonders who wrote the dreadful sentence "It's fair to say we are fairly imminent on a lot of positions that have exited."?}
19 May 2012 09:10:31
Reading Ian ayers interviews on Lfc.tv I have bought into Rafa coming back, they are putting things into place to have scouts who watch the players and the manger only to giv a yes or no after seeing them on a couple of occasions, apparently the manager would watch players themselves around 30 times then make the decision, where as now they are taking that work away from them to concentrate and focus on teaming the team, with all the in fighting that happened with twit and tw&t Rafa only wanted full control because he knew he could do better himself, this extra work could of been the couple of points we needed to win the premier league a few years back.
. And with what money he had available at that time was genius, I'm having that.
Bumple bees dad
19 May 2012 09:09:52
Why did Brendan Rodgers refuse to even talk to us? What is wrong with our club? The owners? Or is just fact that we are not the big club we used to be?
He knew he would not get it and by turning it down it looks good for him.
I think he thinks he does'nt need an interview and lfc should know what he's about
Tis a posion chalice the LFC job
No Money fro players
No club structure
Achieve top 4 next summer or get your UB40
You cannot knock loyalty , there is not much left in football . Maybe he is actually enjoying life at Swansea and didnt want to risk what he has for the sack at LFC if he failed ?
But should we not be thinking bigger than Brendan Rodgers. The fact that he refused to even talk to us is embarrassing.
I cant believe you think rogers didnt want the job of course he did he just did not want to be rejected in public because he knows he got no chance of geting it
some people on here really have not got a clue i think some of you think you are supporting a club the size of everton or villa try looking at fan base all over the world our shirt sales our support in asia
80 thosand people to watch us train our new shirt deal with warrior one of the largest in the world 5 european cups
even the other 2 muppets h&g realised this and yet some supporters on here dont it is unbelieveable chelsea and man city are 2 medium sized clubs with a bit of pocket money they are not big clubs
and they will soon be in a really bad mess
liverpool man u barca real madrid ac milan these are the worlds truly big clubs
even brad pitt supports us for f--- sake
and al bet he probably knows more about
our great club than some people on here
all you negative supporters need to realise you support LIVERPOOL FC one of the top 5 clubs in the world now please start acting like it or take your negative support and small club atitude over to city or chelsea
19 May 2012 09:09:27
Just heard from my reliable source that Martinez is out of the picture of becoming new manager as FSG and Ayre feel the fans woudnt support him and get behind him (GET IN!). Also heard that it is between rafa and AVB now.
Personally I hope it's rafa. Why? Because:he bought 70 odd player for 220 mil compared to this season buying 5 players for 114 mil, he has great experience and history with the club, he will be supported greatly by all, he makes top quality signings instead of English s**te and he actually cares about this club unlike if your bring some random Portuguese guy in.
Toatl crap - the amount of fans calling for his head was immense, and now the odd vocal few want him back - the telling thing is every other clubs fans didn't want him to leave - that says something of how highly regarded he is. And why is he still unemployed after 18 months?
Rafa divides at least 50% of the posts on here
Why do you think he's the spirit of Unity
You must be forgetting that you need so many S**te English players in our team in order to comply with the rules. And yes, English players are over priced as are Spanish players in Spain, etc
Rafe bought alot of crap too..Aqulani was injured and didn't even want to play for us, how much did he cost us?? 19million. We can't even give him away to get home off the wage bill. How many players did Rafa buy that truly want to play for the club? Most of them had their heads turned by money.
I would rather give Martinez a chance than have Rafa back. Rafa tactics struggled against teams that played a deep line because he played with aloan striker (torres) but when the opposition sat deep we struggled to break them down.
Kenny knew that when we bought Carroll, the teams that parked the bus with a good winger and some decent crosses in the box we would break these teams down.
We need a manager who plays differant tactics depending on the opposition. That for me isn't Rafa. He never give the youth a try and preferred the CL to the prem.
Ask yourself this question. Why has Rafa only had one other managers job since being sacked from Liverpool? The answer is because he isnt as good as what you people make out.
Other than the CL (not his team or tactics) he won us one cup in 6 years and failed to get us into the CL in his final year.
Let's look forward to the future, not back to the past.
19 May 2012 09:00:31
i was on the talksport website and they have the recording of liverpool phoning barca to speak to pep,very funny lol,but my question is could you not have got someone to phone who can speak english correctly and also how embarrassing was it that pep had never heard of anfield,i mean lfc arnt even the biggest club in liverpool at the moment,think youse treated pep with disrespect,embarassing pep then giving talksport the recording,lfc have really sank to new depths.but it was funny lmao
Either you or I have no sense of humour.
Are you a mug, it was a prank call.
That was a fake call done for a laugh
Is this clown for real?? obviously he is that thick that he cannot see it is clearly stated as a spoof..... ha ha ha
Gotta be a thick as sh7t, blue nose bitter
^^^^^^^is that a serious post??
Is him. I heard it wasn't funny at all, to be honest.
Jonesred
It was true,my uncle is the president general of talksport and he said the guy came in with the recording was defo from anfield.he was wearing a pair of 1960ies elasticated chelsea boots,a pair of 70ies brown hi-waist parrallel trousers and a brown and orange striped tanktop with a mersey-beat badge,he also had a curley perm and a thick moustache he was also wearing a pair if red tinted glasses and kept banging into things coz he couldnt see out of them,but the thing that really give it away that he was from the anfield area was he thought he was elvis,lmao,forgot to sign my first
trev the gooner
19 may 2012 08:56:22
been a long time fan of this website! a kop from the time i know! as every body on here i too believe fsg have lost their plot! but people pls lets get behind them....for once sacking kenny was a mistake but if they had a replacement ready i would never have said sacking kenny is wrong!! but he should have left head held high but sadly not!! but he s a man of king stature
my view s that kk forced the sacking! just think after spending big money for the club and having a man sitting opp to yu saying back me or sacck me...i guess fsg became angry and hence forth! but they got no idea of liverpool...many say it s in the blood , these owners ll learn it due time! but this s wat i wish to say if yu want time to learn the liverpool way, then i bloody bet yu should have given king kenny another chance mates!!!!
leave those apart! right now get behind watever is left in the club! and understand if there s a list it will contain top class to bottom class! bielsa to roberto martinez! no way martinez s bottom but per say... the list bottom half s knownn ! the top six are to be said and none know who....
and moreover people if not us then whom! support lfc ... don wait fro rewards of cup big players and money ...thick and thin lfc way! kenny ll always be the king ... and whoever comes or goes it ll be liverpool in my heart !
not the least congrats eds and maaca for their wonderful and collective way of maintaining the site!! and it s just the right dose of rumours and fantasy to be seen!! great year ahead !! ynwa!! snap it!(indian kop)
Is it me or do other people find text posts really annoying,i wished people would use english when posting
19 May 2012 08:52:40
After being turned down by a number of high profile Managers, it is understood that FSG are considering turning to former Anfield legend Kenny Dalglish to manage the side. Dalglish, who has led the team on two other occasions, is seen as the ideal choice to spearhead the club and is understood to be available at this time.
Mark the Selby Red
Beat me to it Mark. Well said.
iggypop
LMFAO!! That would be a turn around. What are the odds on that? Worth a punt!
RJ
19 May 2012 08:49:44
AVB, welcome to LFC. We will support you and your fresh new ideas. Take us into the top 4 Andre!
19 May 2012 08:48:45
Morning Eds
What is the big deal from supporters regarding Martinez,Yes Wigan are down the wrong end of the table every year,but every year they survive.You have to give credit where it is due,He has a shoe string budget but still manages to surprise the so called big teams in the league
24/03 beat us 2-1
11/04 beat UTD 1-0
16/04 beat Gooners 2-1
28/04 beat NCL 4-0
He has a set philosophy on the way the game should be played and he should be applauded for that.
I for one are of the opinion this guy has the potential to be one of the great managers.
REDFORLIFE
19 May 2012 08:47:20
ED2 is there a chance of Mourinho coming? {Ed002's Note - No, I am sorry but Mourinho will not be joining.}
Don't be sorry - I am glad he's not coming
Puzzled
Rodgers turned down an approach from yee and yee reckon mourinho might be interested??come on,,,,
19 May 2012 08:43:22
I just Wanna say, that the Danish media is exploding with the possibility about laudrup. Hes fellow assistant is just being contacted by a Danish newspaper about Laudrup
Hé States hé has no further comment to every
Danish media is going crazy this morning. John Faxe Jensen, laudrups loyal assistant is having no comment. But when a journa ask if hes taking the plane to Liverpool, hé replied no comment, and then the journalist says, But if you Are ón you Way - good trip, hé then replies happening thanks!
Laudrup as manager - 80%!!
19 May 2012 08:40:23
Michael Laudrup looking better and bette the more i read about him the more I like plus he's a life long LFC supporter could just be the man to pull us all together...what do you think
Dav 001
19 May 2012 08:37:04
I think Dave Whelan has done LFC a favour by running to the media to tell them all about our approach for Martinez. I think FSG will find it a bit disrespectful, as they wanted the process done behind closed doors. If you remember, Whelan did the same last year with Villa.
Scoffa
19 May 2012 08:30:47
morning edds on tne back of the paper it says rafa has been interviewed for the liverpool job an it says the owners a very inpressed with what he has done in his years in football can you tell me who sacked him in the first place it defo was not the new owners or they would not be speaking to him thanks {Ed002's Note - Benitez departed by mutual consent taking a pay-off from the previous owners - he had become rather a pain in the neck to everyone.}
Dont blame him someone had to give the old owners some stick! Rather than watch them run the club into the ground!
19 May 2012 08:30:16
The Echo reporting that FSG are keen to tie-up contracts for Suarez, Skirtel and Agger. Happy days. I imagine this was what Skirtel's agent was talking about as I wouldn't think his wages are that high. The report also suggests that Rodgers did not want to jeopardise his position at Swansea hence the rejection of an opportunity to discuss the vacant role.
DaveyBootle
19 May 2012 08:26:40
To bring a bit of light relief to the selection of LFC Manager
Simon Cowell is going to set up Kop Idol
The contestants for the LFC Managers post will have to peform one song.
Rafa will sing "I did it my way" by Frank Sinatra
The Anfield Cat will sing "Cat on a hot tin roof" by Gilbert O' Sullivan
AVB will sing a modern Current version of the Clash song "I fought the law and the law won" it will be called "I fought every chelsea player and Roman won"
R. Martinez will sing "Fantastic Day" by Nick Heyard soon to be followed by "Misery" by Green Day
Sommerset
19 May 2012 08:12:11
not confirmed yet thet jen chang is the new comms officer but this is his linkedln profile and to me looks like a pretty good c.v. senior editor at sports illustrated and editor for espn also worked for goldman sachs in my opinion looks like would be a good appointment
Senior Editor, SI.com
Sports Illustrated
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; TWX; Publishing industry
March 2010 Present (2 years 3 months) New York
Head of editorial for soccer at SI.com.
U.S. Soccer Editor for ESPN.com
ESPN
Public Company; 5001-10,000 employees; DIS; Broadcast Media industry
November 2004 March 2010 (5 years 5 months) Bristol, CT
Headed editorial for the U.S. soccer section on ESPN.com. In charge of determining day-to-day content and strategic direction of section.
Managed, edited and assigned work to stable of freelance and staff writers. Regularly wrote blog/op-ed columns on the site.
Studio Production Research
ESPN
Public Company; 5001-10,000 employees; DIS; Broadcast Media industry
January 2004 October 2004 (10 months) Bristol, CT
Performed research for ESPNEWS and SportsCenter. Created show/stat graphics and story ideas. 2004 Sports Emmy award winner.
Associate
American Capital Strategies
September 1999 August 2001 (2 years) New York
Headed deal origination for the New York office of an $800 million leveraged buyout and mezzanine financing firm.
Responsible for identifying, qualifying and sourcing deals accounting for 51% ($117 million) of the firm's total new investments between '99-01.
Associate
Goldman Sachs
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; GS; Investment Banking industry
September 1997 August 1999 (2 years) New York
Analyst
SBC Warburg
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; Investment Banking industry
1995 1997 (2 years) London, United Kingdom
Jen Chang's Education
University of Cambridge
Mphil, International Relations
1992 1993
Queens' College
London School of Economics and Political Science
Msc, Industrial Relations and Management
Queen Mary, U. of London
Bachelor of Arts (BA), History
AND!
I Bet David Cameron has a great CV Lets get him for DOF
19 May 2012 08:11:31
I think Laudrup,would be an exciting appointment and given time could move us forward and get us back into the top 4 at least! But people have to realise there would be an element of risk attached to his appointment and we may have to go further backwards to move forwards! And to ed 01 and a few other people who question Villas Boas, Laudrup has a similar profile to AVB (maybe slightly worse actually) so it's a bit of a contradiction to back one in your choice of manager and not the other! But I would like to see Laudrup given a chance, I think giving him the job would give the fans something to look forward to with regards the future direction of the club, but as I have already said we may have to move further backwards so as to give him the chance to implement his ideas and tactics and get used to the league, something that wasn't afforded to AVB at Chelsea! Hopefully it's Laudrup or De boer so we can build for the future and not just the short term!!
Waro
AVB for me. He will have plenty of motivation and we need a bit of culling of of the older dead wood and new idea's. Our owners would let him do that not back the brown nosers.
19 May 2012 07:56:12
Lads lets get behind FSG .
After all they are a part of this club now which makes them a part of us. Macca is right , even if its just for financial reasons they want to win as much as you or i do and as long as they are a part of this team and working to make us better i for one will say JWH
you'll never walk alone
19 May 2012 07:51:39
Why is everyone interested in who will be our next manager?How fickle are we that we can neglect the fact that Ken Aguero is still available on a bosnich and FSG are still stalling on his wages....
19 May 2012 07:49:50
Being back Rafa. And his assistant paco, edds can you tell me which club this guy is at now? Any one else think it was a big influence from paco what made us tick, I was only young when we played football under them but I noticed when he left we lost our way under Rafa?
Cheers
Lfcnath {Ed002's Note - He is unattached right now.}
19 May 2012 07:42:11
Ive heard that Martinez has turned down the role as he feels the rebuilding job is to big at this stage and the expectations are unrealistic atm AVB or Rafa are FSG top targets now and they are hopeful of hiring one of those two within the next 72 hours
19 May 2012 07:36:42
To all those who wanted kk out, are you now seeing managers turn us down as an option!
Wake up, because we are now considering a Chelsea cast off as a great option?
And torres has a cl final tonight. I guess ed002 and torres have the last laugh. Who is the bigger club?? {Ed002's Note - Schadenfreude is not something I have considered.}
Like hell you haven't
Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Come on then - let's see some examples?}
You will know ed002 that with my memory I cannot quote examples and the search button won't help. Maybe it's been a subliminal thing
Puzzled
Oh dear, and all this time i thought ed2 was a liverpool supporter, well i guess im not the sharpest tool in the box then. And sod that muppet Torres, not watching that shower tonight.
Slimboy {Ed002's Note -
19 May 2012 07:35:25
Rumours are surfacing that Liverpool have approached former manager Rafa Benitez. If this is the case and he is eventually appointed, even if people think it would be a bad idea regards to his last season at Anfield, we should get behind him. Kenny was away from the club as manager for a very long time and has to some degree, stopped the rot. Now in my opinion, any manager that takes a club to 2 champions league finals in the space of 3 seasons has to warrant some amount of respect. Maybe he isn't many peoples 1st choice, mine included, but if he does get the job, we must get behind him and give him every chance to prove himself.
Will get behind him if there is no:
1. Boring, defensive football
2. Bizarre team changes and substitutions
3. No chasing away our best players
4. Buying of more foreign carp
Easy then.
19 May 2012 07:31:45
The only reason Rodgers diddint want the job is because he nos himself he's not good enough to manage a big club like Liverpool
19 May 2012 07:29:54
Think that Dave Whealan was being v clever in announcing that Martinez has been approached. He doesn't want to lose his man and knew that by letting Liverpool fans know this there would be a backlash from us therefore making FSG wary of appointing him, thus Whealan keeps his man.
Jack the Groove
19 May 2012 06:49:42
RE: LFC manager
So Klopp and Rodgers rule themselves out, which leaves the following: -
Rafa, Martinez, Capello, Guardiola, AVB, Mourinho, Deschamps, De Boer, Klinsmann and Van Marwijk.
My view is:-
Rafa - had his chance and would be a backwards step. Remember he left the club in an absolute state last time, granted had no money towards the end though.
Martinez - up and coming manager but no experience of club like LFC. Would be concerned if this is the 'world class' manager we can only get.
Capello - would demand a lot of money/wages. Has experience but goes against FSG's young manager plans.
Guardiola - Dream manager. Has the style we need. Young. Ticks all the boxes. However, feel he will turn us down. Would choose chelski over us aswell.
AVB - Young, yes. However all we need to is look at his short Chelski career and realise he's not good enough. LFC should stay clear.
Mourinho - Big manager, would demand a big transfer budget. There is an outside chance of him coming. Would love him.
Deschamps - Great up and coming boss. Think he would be perfect for us.
De Boer - Has done well at Ajax. Young, but feel it wont be him.
Klinsmann - another candidate who i feel could do a job for us. Would he leave USA for us?
Van Marwijk - Good manager. Has finally got Holland playing at their potential. Has a clause in his contract saying he is allowed to speak to english clubs.
So, in order, this is my preference: -
Guardiola
Mourinho
Deschamps
Klinsmann
Rafa
Van Marwijk
De Boer
Capello
Martinez
However, realistically, believe Deschamps would be the best we can hope for.
RedRocket
You need a red rocket up ur arse mate deschamp didnt want to come last time so why would we ask the water carrier now raffas the man he will take us back were we want to be and fungerson hates him enough said give it to raffa now
Deschamps who finished 10th in the french ligue 1
You forgot Laudrup and Bielsa
19 May 2012 06:47:54
Ash & Red Turk are on the Long list to be interviewed.
No, I'm being interviewed purely to make sure players we sign are actually worth their value.
Ash
Good replay Ash. No more over hyped british c**p from now onwards. MICHAEL LAUDRUP PLZ.
Indian Buzzer
19 May 2012 05:46:57
Have Rushie or Aldo put their names in the hat for either of the two jobs(mgr & dof)?
19 May 2012 05:42:29
Robbie Fowler, John Barnes and a few other legends were at a Standard Chartered event in Thong Lor, Bangkok, Thailand, Last night. I spoke to both of them. God knows nothing about new managers or players. Barnsey told me he has to make educated guesses when he's on T.V. because that is his job. However he said he hasnt got a clue who will come in. "It could be anyone". He also stated that you rarely get anything out of Anfield these days. He also said the squad knew about Kenny, but haven't been told anything else!
19 May 2012 04:46:15
Not a rumour more question on the manager situation for everyone.
What is the stance on Descamps or Rijkaard? These names were in the mix previously (last manager search) but not really heard about them this time. Would either one be available / interested?
UNiT {Ed002's Note - Deschamps is available and would be interested.}
19 May 2012 04:13:55
would di matteo be considered for the post, if he does not get the chelsea job?
19 May 2012 03:58:43
Hey Ed, any chance of Didier Deschamps. I think he is the best we are being linked with. But I just hope its not martinez. {Ed002's Note - There may well be a chance.}
19 May 2012 03:06:34
Iv been told by a close source that because of kopites rejection of inexperience manager for kop job has stalled the Martinez talks n the fsg r considering if all big names fail. The owners gonna appoint rafa. At the same time, contract extensions talk have started with all star players, even Suarez to get a big pay rise.... What's ur thoughts on this view Ed. Also been told no top flight manager will consider the kop job until a class dof has been appointed or not. Ur thoughts plz ed n how true is this statement....
Zaman
19 May 2012 02:50:54
Hi eds.
Any chance of Atletico Madrid's manager Diego Simeone? Young, recently successful with Madrid, would fit the FSG bill more or unless. Don't know much about the guy, but he joined in December 2011. Might be a gamble, but we should surely consider him.
Cheers {Ed002's Note - No chance.}
Saw few match of atletico madrid. his footballar selaction is good and tactic also very much good for liverpool. but he just join them less then a years he may not leave madrid soon. did Unai Emare alredy get a job after leave Valencia ? {Ed002's Note - Unai Emery will join Spartak Moscow. It has been agreed.}
19 May 2012 02:36:46
Eds. - you seem to like Laudrup for Manager, but what about the fact he never seems to stay anywhere for more than a year or so? (lasted 31 months at Getafe, Spartak and Mallorca combined) {Ed002's Note - Personally I don't see it makes much odds. Success is paramount and whilst continuity would be desirable, these pages would be quiet unless we have a change of owners or manager every year.}
Edoo2 for a 17 year old you are very very cynical
Puzzled {Ed002's Note - A 17 year old? Right.}
19 May 2012 02:22:04
can i ask all the eds to come out and say something have fsg invested much in the team my last count on a day to day basis they have spent id say 20 million but thats to give u leeway ans plz {Ed002's Note - And who has paid for the £100M loss Liverpool has made since they arrived?}
FSG are just typical American con artists. All this nonsense about them removing £200 mill of debt. It was in the purchase price, they still got the club at a snippet through a distressed sale. Writing down of exceptional cost associated with the last ownership is just clever accounting to put us on steady platform. They can do this as they've not ploughed a penny of equity into the club. Like you say mate £20 mill transfer spend yet I understand we are in debt to the tune of £100 mill. No doubt loans from companies owned by Mr Henry & co.
Our accounts won't demonstrate the improvements in the Warrior balance sheet but no doubt the financial gain from the shirt deal will find its way to Mr Henry & co's bank accounts. Let's face it, had you heard of Warrior up until the shirt deal? I hadn't.
Just as bad as the last lot but cute with spin. These business models shouldn't be allowed anywhere near football, it has to be ownership by an individual who loves the club and is prepared to plough equity into it similarly to Jack Walker.
We're just being used and abused by Americans. Sacking Kenny feels as though they've taken the soul from the club. Behind the scenes documentary by FOX TV, what next Pom Pom dancers. It's a pantomime.
Ozone {Ed002's Note - This is all palpable nonsense I am afraid to say.}
Ed how have they picked up the £100 million loss? Has there been 2 year ends since they arrived? Cheers {Ed002's Note - We are concluding the second financial year now. The accounts for the first year have been published - the accounts for this year will show at least a similar loss and will include all of last summer's spending. The owners are responsible for making good these losses through their own funding or loans that they would need to repay.}
19 May 2012 02:14:20
hi eds, in your opinion, if you had to choose between deschamps & laudrup, who would you go for & why? thanks. {Ed002's Note - I am sorry, the question is rather random in nature.}
19 May 2012 02:10:52
Klopp would have been ideal. How about a combination of Txiki Bergiristain andna young manager like Laudrup or DeBoer? I think I could live with that.
The Liver Bird
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