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14 Dec 2018 16:02:38
Dear Ed001,
With the defensive nature of ManU, would you play Keita and Shaqiri in the midfield to open up the side or will you stick to a midfield 2 as cover for our defence?

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't start with both, Shaqiri on the bench for me.}

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14 Dec 2018 16:06:58
Shaqiri as a super-sub to spice up things when the need arises. Sounds okay. But what would be your set up inclusive of Keita?

{Ed001's Note - I would just play the usual 4-3-3 to start. He would just be one of the midfield 3.}

14 Dec 2018 16:27:41
Yeah with Hendo and Fabinho the other 2. As I assume Milner will be RB and Wijnaldum needs a rest.

14 Dec 2018 17:03:23
Unfortunately I would say both Gini and Milner need a rest, shows how important it was to buy Fab and Kieta! Maybe both will play tomorrow along with hendo perhaps?

14 Dec 2018 18:26:52
George and who plays RB? If you put Fabinho in mid and rest Milner and Wijnaldum there is no one from the first team left. Clyne is not ready for 90 as per Klopp. I am sure Milner will be plsyed as RB and then rested the next game when hopefully Clyne is ready for 90.

14 Dec 2018 18:46:46
I think Klopp will revert to Salah upfront. Bob dropping in, mane Shaq either side. Fabinho Wij in midfield. Milner RB.

14 Dec 2018 18:39:36
Not sure Marto! Guess Milner will have to play somewhere, hopefully he can get a rest soon though.

14 Dec 2018 18:53:42
I would pick Hendo, Fab and Keita in a 4-3-3 myself, Ed. Shaq needs to be on the bench and can come on when heeded esp. regarding ball retention cos he is good at keeping the ball as well if need be. Or can make something happen if we need it as well. Naby should be unleashed vs these mancs, for sure.

14 Dec 2018 20:17:05
A nice Milly cruncher on Rashford early doors will get the crowd going and put the fear of Fowler in them! Can’t wait!

15 Dec 2018 11:21:22
Me neither, BB.

Review Of The Day 14th December 2018

14 Dec 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th December 2018

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14 Dec 2018 09:19:04
Thanks Ed

It was a sad day when Martin Glenn left his role as CEO of United Biscuits to become chief executive of the FA.

I know his new job gave him the opportunity to HOBNOB with royalty, especially VISCOUNTS. Many said he was a JAMMIE DODGER to join that CLUB but I don’t agree. He was involved in the BREAKAWAY league idea but the WAGON WHEELS quickly fell off that.

Saying that, he’s a NICE guy and a smart COOKIE. I heard that he was suffering with DIGESTIVE problems due to the amount of BOURBON he drinks but he’s off the heavy stuff now and only drinks RICH TEA.

14 Dec 2018 07:48:14
Cheers Ed, have a good Friday mate.

{Ed001's Note - you two too Saloe!}

14 Dec 2018 09:20:16
Cheers for that ed, whatever will the fa do now that such a great man has left the institution.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure that someone like Joey Barton could fill his shoes....}

14 Dec 2018 10:48:44
I kinda am hoping i will get Ali's gloves man!

14 Dec 2018 13:55:47
Hey BeckersGloves, haven't seen you around for a while. Don't stay a wafer so long next time.

Your sort of posts are anzac-ly what we need more of on this site.

14 Dec 2018 15:12:53
Cheers Ed001.

14 Dec 2018 15:23:21
Zed it looks like you have a new member for your CLUB. I would join in with these biscuit puns but unfortunately I am as thick as a custard cream. All i hope for is that your puns don't get a rocky reception and I'll just sit here waiting for a cracker of a pun so I can join in.

14 Dec 2018 00:05:27
I just don't get it ed01.we are on top of the table. beating our own records in the process. qualified for round of 16 from a tough cl group. but y still so much negativity by the fans?

{Ed001's Note - because people can't get used to the idea that we are actually good now.}

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14 Dec 2018 05:56:18
Unless we win the league or the UCL, there will always be a sense of negativity and inferiority amongst LFC fans after so many years of mediocrity. Klopp has got us challenging again but to be considered as top dogs and heavyweights, we need to win some trophies to be in the bracket of the elite.

14 Dec 2018 06:42:35
Old habits die hard.

14 Dec 2018 08:21:08
I’ll be honest just to win the PL will do me.

14 Dec 2018 08:39:45
as Indian said we have so many false hopes the last 20 years, every fan takes the mick and goes back to oh its our year (even tho I have never heard a Liverpool fan say that in my time) its more a sense of are we really at that level now as Ed said we are not used to it.

14 Dec 2018 09:12:02
Winning the league would lead to a happy summer but first game of the next season if we didn't win 5-0 people will moan again. that's just the way it seems to go.

You'll never get moaning and negativity out of the game. And God help trying to stop fans from abusing other teams players when they are too happy to abuse their own.

14 Dec 2018 09:13:23
I don't think the feeling of inferiority will go until we do get our hands on the Premier League. It is arguably bigger to us than the Champions league. Teams like us in 2005 and Chelsea in 2012 prove you don't need to be good all season to win the Champions league.

It's arguably harder to win the league. you have to be consistent week in week out.

14 Dec 2018 09:22:52
It won’t end until we win the Prem. Once that monkey is off our back it shuts down many of the wind ups that we face from opposition fans and we can all cheer up and start to believe.

It seems that having a world class team that includes some of the best in the world in their position is not quite enough to have hope.

14 Dec 2018 09:23:10
What’s great about this team is that it’s less the superpower of one player but a collection of good players getting results - we don’t look like a semi successful Liverpool team at the moment rebuilding every window. Its refreshing and dare I say hopeful that should nothing radical change, we can get ourselves competing year in year out from her on in.

14 Dec 2018 10:11:57
True Shane, mate if we won 1-0 every single game of the season people would moan. Youngsters get impatient, people get paranoid but the be all and end all imo is we're improving, since Klopp came in we've done nothing but improve, that's enough for me right now. Trophies are coming, starting with the PL one once this season is over.

14 Dec 2018 10:16:46
for some people it just seems like nothing but the pinnacle of winning a trophy is good enough. obviously it is good to aspire to win trophies. but the attitude that comes with it and then reactions to any perceived slip is just over the top imo.

we all want to win titles. but if ya can't see the progress the team has made since Klopp came in, then well, maybe we should all just save our breath for singing and chanting instead!

14 Dec 2018 10:50:12
We are going to win something! Believe that! By the way ed25!the only thing Pickford's going to pick up in Everton is ball from the net!

{Ed025's Note - we are not expecting to won anything liverbird, this is a team that is re-building and it will take a few windows and some to get where we want to be mate, by the way your lot have won nothing YET...i might just remind you of this post if it all goes tits up my friend.. :)

14 Dec 2018 11:01:30
Since 1990 Liverpool has been in the rather uniquely awful position of being one of the biggest clubs in the world, with all the expectation that comes with that, and yet we have a remarkable tendency to fall short. We haven’t fallen far enough for expectation to go away, like Everton, Sampdoria or Deportivo, but we never actually get to where we should be. We always come up short and the fans are rightly hurt and cautious, myself included. I mean under Klopp alone we’ve bottled 3 finals. You could argue that it would be more enjoyable if we’d completely fallen out of the running; we’d have no expectation, anxiety or fear of cocking up, we’d be able to enjoy each game as it comes for what it is. Once that first league title comes our way all the anxiety and pain will be gone. After that we may just be able to appreciate the football for what it is but make no mistake, the pain that the search for that first premiership has caused runs deep.

{Ed025's Note - i appreciate what your saying AW, but sometimes its hard to feel sorry for people who continually feel sorry for themselves...and are mouthy gits with it, you see you are exactly the same with man utd and you know what they say mate...people who live in glass houses and all that..

14 Dec 2018 11:22:41
You summed it up there AW. Rather than saying we’ve been beaten in 3 finals you say we bottled 3 finals.
It’s an unnecessarily negative and overly critical word to use to describe your own team and players.
But that’s where we are these days isn’t it? If we win we’re the Harlem Globetrotters and will never lose again but if we lose we are a useless bunch of bottlers who will never win again.
I also notice further up people saying we’ve had years of mediocrity. Really? Try saying that to Leeds or Forrest or Villa. Now that’s mediocrity. Top 8 finishes for the past 30 years can hardly be described as mediocre.
You just have to appreciate how lucky you are to support this great club and be thankful for the many, many great times it’s given you. Yes there’s always lows but when the highs come my god they are worth it!

14 Dec 2018 11:47:37
I love these kind of posts. People moaning about people moaning. Just relax guys and enjoy the great form we are in. As they say opinions are like a***holes everyone has one. And let’s be honest does it cause any harm when someone shares a different view.

14 Dec 2018 15:44:33
True JK but the moaners moaning about the moaners actually do have a moan to be moaning about. The moaners who moan for moaning’s sake are moaning when theirs no moan to moan about.
If you catch my drift?

14 Dec 2018 16:09:15
Nope you must b drifting far. make sure it doesn't reach old trafford though can't imagine getting picked by someone like moaninho!

14 Dec 2018 16:46:24
I would rather not shout from the rooftops just yet. Yes if we are 6/ 7 point clear with 2 or 3 games to go I will happily shout my mouth off to our rivals.
Until then let's just believe and pray.

14 Dec 2018 19:09:22
Spot on, Ed25. I will never be sorry for such people who simply like to wallow in their own self-pity and that is the issue we are having with all the negativity from a portion of the fan base. I mean, we have fans who after they see a lineup they are not expecting, would just throw in the towel like "Oh, I fear we might lose today cos of the line up" or say with some kind of nonsense like"I just know we are going to lose today. What is Klopp doing? ", blah, blah, blah. I always wonder how they can support a team and still be this negative when things are going swimmingly at the moment

Also AW, we did not bottle 3 finals. That is simply NOT true. There are unique circumstances that did not go our way and of course, there are things we could have done better BUT to say we bottled say, an EFL final lost on penalties is ludicrous. It is these types of negative undertones that undermine what we are trying to achieve. For me, playing those finals were a steps in the right direction that ha s gotten us to where we are now, as frustrating as it was to lose them. BTW, winning or losing a final is like taking a penalty. Only those who play them get to win or lose them and NOT those who don't.

{Ed025's Note - fair points there red wolf..

14 Dec 2018 19:24:11
Why would we all be spouting off to rival fans when we haven’t won anything?

If we spout off now and then finish second we will just get mocked all the more.

I make the odd dig at the united fan at work (who is very irritating aside from being a united fan so deserves it) but other than that it’s best to keep our heads down until we can celebrate actually winning something.

{Ed025's Note - exactly my thoughts KK..

15 Dec 2018 11:31:21
KK92, I think it depends on what type of "spouting off" that is being done. We have come a long way since BR's disastrous final 18 months and that should be something to take pride in. We have not been able to win a trophy BUT it is not w/ o want of trying or better, playing some of the biggest finals we've played in over a decade now. That is also progress that we should applaud as fans.

Now this is not something to start getting overhyped about vs-a-vis rival fans like Chelsea, City fans who have won a whole lot more than we have. We are trying to be what they are so spouting off to the fans when we have not reached the objective yet is ludicrous.

We should remain measured and humble in our quest for winning a trophy cos to me, Klopp has already been a success as far as LFC is concerned based on what he has achieved and how he has turned us from a basket case to European and PL elite. The next step is to win a trophy to crown it all. Until that happens, we gave nothing to "spout off" about to rival fans, IMO.

13 Dec 2018 20:06:57
Now that TAA is out . I hope to see Milner at right back.
I thought he had a great game at this position the another day.

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13 Dec 2018 21:50:20
What is the news on his injury?

13 Dec 2018 22:30:18
He is out? Who said please, how long he out for?

14 Dec 2018 00:40:57
After having a quick browse the only outlet who had claimed that is the S*n😬 so based on that i’ll believe it when i see the team sheet.

Regardless i don’t think it will matter too much, tactics will be key against United rather than personnel.

14 Dec 2018 02:49:34
I wouldn't be too confident. Bournemouth did try to get at Milner (particularly in 2nd half) and had some success. Milner was working hard but its pretty clear he wasnt used to that position and his combo with Shaquiri and Gini couldve been better. i've no doubt Jose was looking at that and Martial will have instructions. Having said that Milner works hard and we could do a lot worse.

14 Dec 2018 06:50:01
If Clyne is truly completely "unusable" as it seems to be (for whatever the reasons) we should stop the dilly dallying with moving other players to backup TAA and buy a young RB with future potential. Yes, Gomez will be back, but there still should be a dedicated backup to TAA. Gomez has shown he can easily alternate between RB and CB, but i wouldn't think it's a prudent thing to do on a permanent basis.

14 Dec 2018 08:15:37
Martial is out to. It will be milner B's rashford on Sunday. TAA will most likely miss the wolves game also. Gomez and Matip till the later part of January. We still have a certain Clyney on huge wages we can call up and Fabinha can slot at RB or CB. We also have some young defenders. My only fear is that Lovren always finds a way of picking injuries at the wrongest of times moreso with a congested run of games after wolves then Newcastle then Arsenal then City. We'd definitely drop points but I hope it doesn't create too much gap between us and city if we drop to second place.

14 Dec 2018 08:41:22
think your over estimating United there Phil they will not leave the half and will be sitting back with two banks of 5 to stifle us Milly if he did play there has nothing to worry about, personally I think TAA will be fine or Fabinho will be deployed there.

14 Dec 2018 19:11:48
Heir, Ed has said Clyne should not be expected to play this weekend due to some "lifestyle" issues which he did not get into and neither will I even if I knew what they were. As for Milner playing RB, he is who we have and the hope is that he can play and start there come Sun and if he can't, it will have to be Fab to come in for him.

13 Dec 2018 19:29:51
Hi eds, just a quick question, the team Chelsea are playing now, I noticed the keeper wearing a gumshield, does this happen a lot on football?

{Ed001's Note - no idea, never gave it any thought to be honest.}

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13 Dec 2018 19:51:04
I used to wear a padded rugby under shirt in goal, no gumshield though. 20 years in sticks and still got all 11 teeth 🤙🏼.

13 Dec 2018 20:37:35
Are they all your own though 😉.

14 Dec 2018 09:15:53
My ma subbed in for the last 2 minutes of a hockey game in goal as the keeper went off injured and didn't take any of the gear as game was just over .

Took a hockey ball straight to the mouth lost all but like 3 teeth I think they saved. this was late 70s early 80s mind you so I don't think protective equipment was up to standard.

13 Dec 2018 18:35:46
I have a feeling the toffees will be doing us a big favor this Saturday!

Though I am not confident of beating UTD.

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13 Dec 2018 19:46:26
So you think 7th will beat 2nd but you don't think 1st will beat 6th?

13 Dec 2018 20:00:07
no I just have a feeling everton might take some points off City.

And hope we do UTD but am not confident, we always seem to drop points vs them!

13 Dec 2018 20:15:12
We will win. City will win. And it continues.

13 Dec 2018 21:37:38
Can see Maureen Yo "parking the bus" as usual, score against them early and he's no choice but to open it up a little, then we'll get them.

13 Dec 2018 23:53:02
City didn’t win last week, it begins again?

14 Dec 2018 09:52:22
I know this may be an unpopular opinion but I think injuries may cost us in this game unfortunately. If there’s ever a game for Liverpool where you want your best players on the pitch it’s United. We seem to have some sort of inferiority complex going on with them in recent times. I hope we get it done, but the way this is being hyped up it’s got a draw written all over it. I hope I’m wrong though. As for Everton, have they ever done us any favours? I know it’s half way through the season but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do what most the other teams have done and try not to get beat I. e roll over for city. I hope I’m left with egg on my face on all fronts this weekend but this is an all too familiar vibe, every season we’re going into this game in good form and united looking poor only for us to balls it up. Let’s see if our change in approach works this time round.

14 Dec 2018 12:07:42
Everton are the only team Guardiola has not beaten at the Etihad. So you never know, maybe they will do us a favour.

14 Dec 2018 19:19:47
Kman92, Utd have their own raft of injuries as well so we will see which team can overcome injury obstacles better come Sun so the injury. Not sure what you mean by inferiority complex over Utd. We played them at OT two years ago and had it not been for a linesman not knowing what an offside is (on the equalizer after Valencia was a yard offside when he received the ball after a throw in) e would have won 1-0. Last season, we played them off the park and had it not been for DDG, we would have won at Anfield. And at OT, we did not play our best and STILL, we should have gotten a point cos at least one of those 3 penalty shouts we had was a penalty, if not all of them. So for me, I think we've been more unlucky in certain games than it is about inferiority complex.

As for Everton, I don't think they will roll over for City to just tickle them cos remember, they will be w/ o Aguero, KDB and most importantly, David Silva. We'll see what happenes.

13 Dec 2018 14:35:54
Does anyone else think united will play a flat back 10 on Sunday 😁.

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13 Dec 2018 16:36:51
Klopp has shown this season that he is capable of adapting and knows this opposition well. I'm sure he'll set up to beat their bus to the goal or so I hope. It's relieving to know that DDG allows strange goals in these days and he's been carrying them all these years so here is hoping our front three can take advantage of their form but make no mistake about it, they always seems to find that extra 10% against us but our defense fills me with confidence and our intensity is coming back as well plus the 12th man. We'll bag all three points. Believe.

13 Dec 2018 17:19:47
No don’t be ridiculous.
Fellaini will be up front for the hoof balls.
9-0-1 formation.

13 Dec 2018 18:26:53
Ah, Mikey, give poor Jose a bit of credit. Lukaku will be up front for the hoof balls. Much better, obviously.

Given that United have played about 30 seconds of decent passing football all season and it's therefore somewhat unlikely they'll turn it on against us, the best thing Mourinho could do is go 442, stick Lukaku and Martial up top as a traditional combo of a big man to win long balls and fast player to chase the flick ons, stay as far away from van Dijk as possible, and target Lovren in the hope his lack of game time and recent injuries will tell. But even then it's tenuous, as apart from the away game last season, Lovren's generally had the measure of Lukaku when up against him. And van Dijk has gotten a lot better at helping out his defensive partner this season too.

And finally, it's probably too adventurous a tactic for Mourinho at the moment anyway.

10-0-0 or 9-0-1 it'll be.

13 Dec 2018 19:06:38
Gotta take more chances than Tuesday.

13 Dec 2018 19:37:52
No we don't, we won on Tuesday.

13 Dec 2018 20:31:28
It will be a 2-9-0-1

2 busses on the goal line followed by a 9-0-1.

13 Dec 2018 21:05:05
This season I believe we have become a team that can play many formations an more rounded so the opponent doesn't know what is coming at them and how . That is what klopp is trying too implement rather than in previous seasons you knew what we were coming with long may it continue and also long may it progress.

13 Dec 2018 23:08:38
Haha did we win? Yay!

13 Dec 2018 23:13:16
Football has way of biting you. And would be typical if they ended our unbeaten run. But it would also be typical if we ended Jose time with a good hiding. I'm going 5.1 lfc. someone is about to take a hammering from us, all the missed chance will all start going in.

14 Dec 2018 09:02:09
To be fair it won’t be an easy win, man uniteds players will turn up for this one, their fans just won’t allow anything else.
I can’t see a united win though, they will play for the draw.

14 Dec 2018 09:03:40
Arriva have lost the franchise where I live. I have it on good authority that united have hired a couple for next Sunday!

13 Dec 2018 10:19:20
In light of us agreeing terms for Fekir in summer, only for us to change our mind and sort of stuff up the transfer, would Lyon take this personally/ hold a grudge against us for that? Do clubs hold grudges against other clubs for perceived bad behaviour? I only ask as, imagine we were going to move for another Lyon player like Aouar of their left back whose name escapes me, do you think Lyon might be inclined to refuse to negotiate all out?

This is all hypothetical I know but I was wondering, at this sort of level of business and sport, if grudges still occur and if they impact on future business between interested parties.

{Ed002's Note - they are difficult to deal with at best. They won’t want to be messed around again.}

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13 Dec 2018 16:11:23
Ask Fulham about holding a grudge.

Red deano YNWA.

13 Dec 2018 16:43:53
Their left back is Mendy and yea clubs do hold grudge.

13 Dec 2018 18:37:16
Red Deano. Let's hope that us loaning them Sheyi Ojo last season did something to patch up that relationship.

13 Dec 2018 23:16:57
I don’t think a business would “hold a grudge” which negatively impacts them going forward.
The difference is the buyer is trying to persuade the other team to sell and if they have a poor relationship then they will have to be more persuasive than if they had a good relationship. i. e. show me the money.

13 Dec 2018 19:09:42
Are we looking at bringing anyone in this January ed? Seems to be unusually quiet for Liverpool in terms of rumours, we must be top or something.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer about dates I am afraid.}

13 Dec 2018 23:55:05
Seems to happen to us a lot! Remember that summer we signed texeira?

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14 Dec 2018 19:22:45
LFC would do well to stay away from the Lyon owner who is a terror to deal with esp. after the mixup with Fekir the last time. Personally, I've moved on from him and IMO, we should too. If anything, we should be buying a defender cos that is where we are thin right now, NOT in midfield.

13 Dec 2018 10:15:23
Just seen mourinhos post match comments last night, already making excuses for Sunday, reeling off the amount of players he has injured and how tired Matic is etc! I can see how the game will play out already, united with 10 men behind the ball, hoping to nick it with a goal.

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13 Dec 2018 11:45:34
They will win. It’s typical, everything to do with our season, unbeaten run, qualified for last 16, not lost at home in god knows how long, our form compared to theirs, player happiness compared to theirs. It’s got United 1 nil written all over it 😂
Jose is just the ass that will beat us in this one off game.

13 Dec 2018 12:03:15
I hope not benny, don’t think I could handle mourinho’s smug face if that happened 😩 I just hope we’re patient in our play because we’re going to need it, they will sit back and soak up pressure all game and try and hit us on the counter. I think if we are patient and not try to force the play, we will break through and get the win!

13 Dec 2018 12:04:16
You know what Benny, you can just see it can’t you! I was thinking the same lol.

13 Dec 2018 12:44:47
Me too.

13 Dec 2018 13:14:52
Personally can’t say the same. We are roaring with confidence and overcame far better teams this season. Prediction 2-0 reds in the first half with a late united goal 70th minute, concluding 2-1.

13 Dec 2018 13:26:14
Benny not this season . we will find a way to beat United and Mourinho can list his excuses afterwards.

13 Dec 2018 13:53:09
All the negative people together!

13 Dec 2018 14:03:20
I know it's not as easy as it sounds but I really feel its time to knock the rubbish out of United. 3 or 4 nil. United were poor against Valencia.

13 Dec 2018 14:08:28
Nah we're going to maul them, 5-0 or 6-1. Too many pessemists on here nowadays.

13 Dec 2018 14:12:52
We'll batter them. Other seasons I've always being concerned, this season I'm far from it, I'm 100% confident we'll beat them.

13 Dec 2018 14:14:31
Wow what a positive thread
I'm going for 3-1
Salah to tear De Gea a new one.

13 Dec 2018 14:23:04
Normally I’d agree with that Benny but we are a different animal this season.
In years gone by we’d have already lost to Chelsea, City and possibly even Burnley by now (not Everton though we never lose to them) .
Have faith mate, this team knows how to get the job done.

13 Dec 2018 15:36:24
History tells us benny is right unfortunately. The only scenario in which he isn’t is if we take everything we’ve learned from playing defensive teams this season and apply it here. Solid defending, patience, passing the ball around, hopefully the goal will come. We’ve tried to press them and it never seems to work. let's see if we can get through the bus this year.

13 Dec 2018 16:08:12
Manes going to score 5!

13 Dec 2018 18:32:51
Against the United of last season I'd have agreed with Benny 100%. But this season, I just don't think they're good enough defensively to keep us out, and de Gea's not the same. Mourinho will try his hardest to spoil our play, but I'm not sure he has the tools to do it this time.

The key is for us not to over-commit in attack.

13 Dec 2018 18:33:58
Klopp to score a penalty 😉.

13 Dec 2018 18:44:25
I can actually see it being frustratingly 0-0 until Klopp plays his subs. I can see him going for a workmanlike midfield of Milner, Hendo and Gini and have a lot of possession but creating very few chances. I think the introduction of Shaqiri and Keita will make the difference and we'll get a 1-0 or 2-0.

I'm expecting a difficult and frustrating game, with lots and lots of anti-football.

13 Dec 2018 19:59:52
Yes, we created very few chances on Tuesday with that workmanlike midfield of Milner, Hendo and Gini.

13 Dec 2018 20:50:08
- Something Red -. Napoli didn't come and try to ruin the football match. They came to try to win it, which is why our midfield were able to contribute to the attack. Don't expect the same from Jose's United. I really think it's going to take a couple of moments of magic to create a really good quality chance. I hope I'm wrong and like many here, really cannot stand them, and even more so under the manager I've always disliked for all of his spells in English football. I just have a feeling that even though his squad is complete carp, he'll still find a way to make it difficult.

14 Dec 2018 09:06:39
At the moment for Mane to score he's going to have at least twenty shot miss at least twenty!

14 Dec 2018 19:25:31
Benny has a point. If anyone can ruin our unbeaten season, it would be Mou. It's what he does. Remember 13/ 14 with BR in charge at Anfield vs Chelsea? The hope now is that Klopp is smarter now (which he is) and can get one over Mou finally.

13 Dec 2018 10:03:12
Ed001, I have a question for you if I may?
How good was Ian rush?
His goal scoring speaks for itself but he is never really mentioned when it comes to favourite players or best players people have seen.
A lot of videos I have seen of him, he seems to be charging thought the defence and finishing well, was that his game? Great finisher with good pace?
Thanks for any input!

{Ed001's Note - Rush was simply world class. When he was at Juventus, they used to say that having him was like having a Ferrari with no engine, as he was brilliant but the team around him was nowhere near his level. He was far more than a pacey finisher. He was the first line of defence, stopping opposition teams from playing out from the back as he would be running around giving them no time on the ball. The timing of his runs was superb as well, unlike say Inzaghi, who would make 50 runs in the hope of getting one right, Rush would make 50 runs and almost always stay onside.

The reason why no one mentions him as the best is that he played alongside the greatest player the club has ever had - Kenny Dalglish. He was so good that no one could compare.}

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13 Dec 2018 12:25:27
Wow 😯 😮 😲.

13 Dec 2018 13:38:11
Rush would be worth 150 million today.

13 Dec 2018 13:50:34
My dad is a massive Ian Rush fan. Says he's the best striker he's ever seen play football.

{Ed001's Note - can't argue with that.}

13 Dec 2018 14:15:23
Yeah and the rest WR mate.

13 Dec 2018 16:02:26
Thanks ed! That’s what confuses me a little, people pick their best teams in memory and it’s always Torres, suarez up front. he just seemed like the complete package!

{Ed001's Note - he was a long way ahead of the likes of Torres for me, but it is difficult to compare them as they are totally different players.}

13 Dec 2018 16:27:09
Firmane, its also got a lot to do with age. A lot of people on this site are in their early 30s, 20s or younger so in their time its been players like Torres, Suarez, maybe Owen and Fowler.

I'm in my 40s so although I din't get to see the best of Kenny (he was retiring/ taking up the player manager role when I started following) I still remember how fantastic Rush was! However, even for me in my dotage, the memories fade a bit over time!

I know some of the Eds were waxing lyrical about Elisha Scott vs Dixie Dean, but that's a little before my time!

13 Dec 2018 18:25:32
I was always curious what happened there. Why was he ever sold to Juve then loaned back the same season, and after one season in Juve purchased back in Liverpool. What happened there?

13 Dec 2018 18:46:29
It's a good job he drank lots of milk or he'd have been playing for Accrington Stanley.

13 Dec 2018 19:37:03
That's interesting ED01 re your Ferrari comment, i was always under the impression that Rush failed to settle in Italy and him and his transfer was deemed somewhat of a failure?

{Ed001's Note - not according to Juve fans he wasn't. The team was a mess when he joined and he got absolutely no service.}

13 Dec 2018 19:58:59
Rush’s greatest asset was his uncannot timing to beat the offside trap.
He’d run at about 80% pace almost vertically inside the back four and then suddenly veer and accelerate through a space between defenders to run onto a through ball.
It was almost genius and it’s a skill that seems to have gone these days.
I used to argue with a mate at work (in the 90s) about who was the best striker we’d seen, I’d say Rush and he’d say Greaves.

13 Dec 2018 22:00:51
Been watching us since 1974 and Rushie is the best striker we've ever had in my time, can remember my grandad saying he was the best we've had and he started going to games in 1912.

13 Dec 2018 22:19:16
I was a young Welsh lad in the 80s so rush and in fact Saunders were big favourites of mine. Though I can't remember much.
I do remember a quiz once, some one please correct me, but at the time of quiz, Ian rush had zero bookings in his career. Absolute goal machine.
Seems like a gent too.

14 Dec 2018 09:00:52
Rush the best striker that I’ve seen live. As a 10yr old I was completely infatuated with his brilliance. Didn’t dig the tash much.


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