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21 Jun 2018 21:24:23
Hi all
Was a fair bit of chatter about about him a couple of weeks ago but rumours again about possible interest in Gelson Martins (along with a few other English clubs) .

I don't know very much about him. is the interest real and how do people rate him?

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21 Jun 2018 22:53:30
There was interest last summer but we bought Salah instead.

21 Jun 2018 21:12:34
Alright lads, back in liverpool visiting me ma. And was wondering if there's any packages or apps to get all the footy for the new season for my uncle.

They already have the sports package from sky but it doesn't show every game (bt) .

Back in the states i have an app (fubo tv) that i pay $40 a month and can watch any game from every league. I don't think it will work over here, so im wondering if england has something similar.

Cant be arsed setting up a streaming thing like footlocker, as its not always reliable.

Anyways any help is appreciated.

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21 Jun 2018 21:34:32
If your uncle is outside of a sky lock in period, then look to switch fibre to BT. Same lines and similar service, BT has been a bit stronger signal for me, but Bt often run free Bt sport on sky offers. I got mine last November and paid the same (actually a couple of quid less) for Bt fibre over sky fibre AND got BT sport on my sky box for free for 18 months. The deal was an 18 month tie in, so come the end of the period, I’ll hunt around for a similar deal again.

Basically saved me the £20 (? ) a month for BT sports on sky.

21 Jun 2018 21:36:25
Stream commando is very good and reliable. I won’t pay for sky sports so I watch every game on that now.

21 Jun 2018 21:39:13
Research mag iptv boxes won't say anymore .

21 Jun 2018 21:41:27
Get a VPN like Nord VPN or Express VPN for them and then get onto a US server before firing up Fubo app and should be able to use it fine from the UK.

21 Jun 2018 21:45:43
Mate download a vpn. Vpn to the states and it will work.

21 Jun 2018 22:09:14
Mobdro for android. If you want it on a pc/ laptop use bluestacks to emulate android and install it on there, it's bloody perfect. HDMI to the TV and job done. Can usually get any tv channel worldwide on it.

I don't use this of course ;) haha!

21 Jun 2018 23:56:15
Did I just imagine you were a police constable, Salah?

22 Jun 2018 08:33:24
I pay £5 a month through my EE phone account to get bt sport app, I can then cast it to the TV. It runs a minute or so behind but it gets me by.

22 Jun 2018 12:21:50
Or freeflix hq and cast it to tv. Freeflix hq works like iptv and mobdro, but the streams seem more stable.
Also maybe you should Google ace stream media. that is the best hd picture every time, no buffering. downside is the commentary is normally Russian.

21 Jun 2018 20:45:51
Degsy’s World Cup Runners.

I’m off.

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21 Jun 2018 20:45:16
Otamendi back in form kicking kacatic while he was on the ground. Typical.
I feel sorry for messi. Argentina just never seem to click.

{Ed001's Note - isn't that partly down to Messi disappearing up his own arse every time a tournament comes around?}

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21 Jun 2018 20:55:17
Lol Ed001. Think he is competing with Ronaldo on how far they can get up their own arses. Ronaldo still winning the golden cock trophy for me.

{Ed001's Note - but he turns up when it matters and drags his team through. Messi just complains and whines.}

21 Jun 2018 21:20:25
Messi just doesn't look interested, and for me, doesn't deserve to start. Think Huguain with Dybala and Aguero supporting, would suit them better as a team. Although this Argentina side has got to be the worst I've seen since I watched my first world cup in 1978.

21 Jun 2018 21:23:27
After say Ed01.Rakatic looks a great player. Watched him a few time but thought he has been great in last two games.

Do you think he still has what it takes?


{Ed001's Note - I don't know, he looked finished earlier in the season, but seems to have returned to form lately. It might be the slower pace of games is suiting him, because his legs were looking like they were on the way out.}

21 Jun 2018 21:48:43
It shows why the Messi- maradona debate is rediculous.
Maradona single handily drive Argentina to world cup, Messi is always a no show.

21 Jun 2018 21:57:57
Cheers ed01! Yeah could be. Argies have been poor.

21 Jun 2018 22:06:41
Just amazed with that performance. Have never seen Argentina play so badly. Sampaoli has not prepared his team well at all and deserves part of the blame.

21 Jun 2018 22:14:39
Argentina is blessed with lots of talented forwards, but that's a extremely weak midfield.

21 Jun 2018 22:40:42
Jonpow- Rakatic has had a good season after looking like his career was on the wane, pretty much coincided with us being linked.

21 Jun 2018 22:43:06
Looks like Sampaoli needs Juanma Lillo to succeed.
Just my opinion, but having a playmaker like Banega might have actually freed up Messi in the final 3rd.

21 Jun 2018 23:29:57
Argentina being this poor shouldn't be a surprise. Got through South American qualifying by the skin of their teeth. Interestingly, this feels like a world cup with little to choose between teams. We could see a surprise winner this time.

21 Jun 2018 23:31:55
Redphil you are right what u are saying lad, messi is nothing to maradonna twice he single handly took argentina to world cup success with a worse team they have now. Messi is no comparison to diego, not in the same league, one was arguably the best player there has ever been the other just thinks he is the best player ever.

21 Jun 2018 23:33:10
As much as I can’t stand Ronaldo I’ve got to admit his will to win and fighting spirit is far greater than Messi’s on the international stage. I still think Messi’s the better player but he’s been extremely disappointing so far.

22 Jun 2018 00:19:24
Was involved in the Rakitic debate last transfer window when everyone slated first team barcelona midfielder, player adored by every coach and player he played with, player that was sevilla captain and player that won trophies all of our first team players can dream off. Rakitic is class and something closest to Xabi Alonso. He can walk and will be useful on the pitch and you can say his legs are gone but he is always im top 3 runners in his team. He is so smart in reading, has excelent passing and dead ball. He would be a welcoming addition to any club in the world I just don't see how the ed01 who has so much knowledge about the game doesn't see it lol.

22 Jun 2018 00:36:14
Croatia is a team full of players at big clubs none of whom get pampered or overhyped. Mandukzic Lovren Modric and Kovacic all playing in the semi-finals of the champions league all of them doing their job with pride for their national team. Messi on the other hand was sulking like a spoilt brat. Give me 11 team mates over 1 over indulgded super star any day.

21 Jun 2018 21:43:37
True ed. But I think he should play on a wing to open up space for the rest of his team. As he always has 3 opposition players around him. I just feel sorry for him because of the pressure he would be under from the Argentine public. And I know all players from every country have pressure on them but messi is clearly an introvert unlike Ronaldo who loves any kind attention. I can relate.

{Ed001's Note - he plays where he wants to play. If Messi is such an introvert he would not do half the personal appearance stuff he chooses to do or the ads etc.}

22 Jun 2018 01:38:50
Maradona is EASILY the best there has ever been.

Not only did he drag Argentina to 2 World Cup finals (one win), but he also dragged Napoli through an entire season and won their first Scudettos ever.

He’s a genius. He did it when defenders could tackle, you played with a ball (not a balloon) and you played on earth and grass, not these grass effect carpets they have now.

22 Jun 2018 05:14:16
Modric looking best midfielder of the tournament so far, Croatia could be very dangerous. Very open WC so far, wouldn’t discount England going far if the forwards can click.

22 Jun 2018 05:25:05
Didnt Pele do the same thing ron.

{Ed001's Note - hardly the same. Brazil were always the best team with wonderful players around him for Pele to work with. Argentina were awful but had Maradona.}

22 Jun 2018 08:05:46
Didn’t realize the disliking u had for Messi ed01. Have to say I think your being a bit harsh on this occasion. That Argentina team is Awful, from back to midfield there is no service and all the do is give the ball to Messi when he isn’t even in positions to recieve it, then expect (along with the nation) for him to come up with some miraculous. That’s not easy when you have 3 or 4 players running to close you down every time and everyone is focused on stopping you cos they know the other 80 % of the team is useless!

{Ed001's Note - I don't dislike him, I don't care about him one way or the other. Messi was not even trying, that is down to him and making excuses for him being a spoilt brat is not helping anyone.}

22 Jun 2018 08:13:41
Fair enough, we will have to agree to disagree on that one mate.

22 Jun 2018 08:40:46
Messi thinks the world revolves around him and that's a reason why I'm not keen on the man. He kind of reminds me of a teenage girl at times, if he doesn't get it his way he spits his dummy out.

22 Jun 2018 11:58:55
I lost any respect for messi after the tax scam thing. a multi millionaire like that? probably a billionaire.

sorry but that is the behaviour of a c u next Tuesday. and a slap in the mouth of all the working class people that spend their hard earnewd wages on tickets.

22 Jun 2018 12:17:44
I think it's fair to say modric has been the best cm so far but I reckon r kid Jordan is up there too. Only one game so let's see how we do on Sunday. If that volley had gone in I think he would be right up there.

22 Jun 2018 12:34:55
Sorry to go on. I don't see why people were expecting so much from Argentina, they barely just qualified, skin of their teeth. Which is surprising when you look at them on paper.

Wales did well 2 yrs ago with 1 World class player and 3 good (ish) players, I think you have to look at their team spirit. Argentina should not be drawing with Iceland. Take away Iceland 4 top players and Messi probably earns more in 5 yrs of wages than the whole team of Iceland is worth in value.

21 Jun 2018 20:12:28
After what I've just seen. i think I can forgive Karius.

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21 Jun 2018 20:39:20
Modric has been epic.

21 Jun 2018 20:48:00
As has Messi. not!

21 Jun 2018 21:41:51
Every single time Ronaldo is asked to deliver on the biggest stage he does
Messi sadly does not
G. O. A. T out of these two, easy for me


21 Jun 2018 22:11:01
John I don't remember Ronaldo doing anything in the last 2 world cups.

21 Jun 2018 22:37:44
Ronaldo is clearly aging better than Messi and I bet he is at the next world cup. But in their primes I think Messi just edges it, probably because he plays in a more exciting position.

22 Jun 2018 01:40:04
You can’t be “GOAT out of these 2”.
GOAT is GOAT and that honour stops with Maradona.

22 Jun 2018 05:40:38
And due to these 4 goals and counting he's gna end up getin the balon dor ahead of salah wich makes me sad.

21 Jun 2018 19:26:28
Okay Gentlemen, We have news on the Matt Hawker Cup 2019.

So far, what do we know?
The date will be the 15th of June
And held in Oxfordshire-ish again.

After speaking to all 24 players, they have all told me they would like to play again next year, and due to their monumental effort how can anyone say no?

After seeing the wonderful words and backing on the site, it is clear a lot more people want to join in for 2019, so we have decided to increase squad sizes from 12 to 14, allowing us to have 4 new players.

Quite frankly there is no easy way to choose, so from as of right now we are running a competition.

It is one question you have to answer, by midnight, Friday the 22nd of June.

How many in TOTAL, goals will be scored at the world cup 2018. So yes this includes all goals previous to today, so time to do some homework ;)

The closest 4 will be added into the Matt Hawker cup, the next 4 after that will be placed on the reserve list. It is an honour to Matt and the website that so many people want to get involved and for that i am extremely grateful.

For any ties in the final standings, it will work on closest guess then move down to who submitted their guess first, so you may want to wait till friday after a few more goals, but is it worth the risk?!

Please email me on, your username if you have one, contact email address and your guess.

Best of luck!

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21 Jun 2018 20:05:15
Have sent in my guess.

Good Luck to all who enter!

21 Jun 2018 23:38:53
Why play it in Oxfordshire? There’s so many posters with friends within the club that surely we can play the next game at Anfield. Just think all the regulars playing on the pitch while all us regular readers/ occasion posters sit in the stands. Perfect scenario for this site if you ask me.

21 Jun 2018 23:55:45
Just a thought guys but if there is plenty of interest could you maybe consider shortening the teams and length of games to make maybe 4 teams competing? Maybe 7 aside as an example? Food for thought?

21 Jun 2018 18:27:38
So emre can now signed for juventes if people see sign on fee of emre they will knew how much a free transfer costs. And that's why I think why eds say avoid the money. Thanks eds for you inputs.

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21 Jun 2018 18:41:16
Juve have still bagged him for well under market value though.

21 Jun 2018 19:07:31
Yeah and to be fair he left with class. can't blame him for taking that money. he can be replaced however I think he will be a very very good player in the Italian league. good luck Emre YNWA.

21 Jun 2018 19:45:00
Awful move by the club to let him walk away on a free. He should have been sold if he wasnt going to sign a new contract. Money down the drain which could have went on a replacement.

21 Jun 2018 19:51:54
Good luck to him. Personally I think Fabinho is an upgrade.

21 Jun 2018 20:22:59
Yes good luck to the lad, I don't think he was right for Liverpool but for Juventus I see him doing well. That league will suit him much better imo.

21 Jun 2018 20:49:06
You can't force him to sign a contract. It's his choice, he kept quiet about it as much as he could and made little fuss, so all the best.

21 Jun 2018 21:50:55
He gave his all. and he fulfilled his contract. good luck emre.

21 Jun 2018 22:13:59
Exactly. The man went about his job with the least amount of fuss and melodrama in the press. He could have made a hue and cry about how he was not being appreciated by the club or the manager because he wasn't getting what he wanted, but he didn't. We see drama queens rampaging through twitter all the time. It's a bit funny but I actually think that he was progressing until Klopp came in. And then he just hit some kind of brick wall in terms of qualitative improvement and just stayed at the same level. Wish him good luck and all the best.

21 Jun 2018 23:46:10
Just don’t think Emre was suited to the way Klopp wants us to play. Little bit controversial but I think he’d suit Mourinho’s style perfectly.

22 Jun 2018 00:21:35
I don't understand why we didn't sell him last summer? Interest from juve all summer, we could have found a replacement in that time. And in hindsight he hardly played.

Oh well, good luck to him. He has a lot of potential and I still think he will become a massive player.

A scorer of fantastic goals and some bigguns in there too.

21 Jun 2018 12:41:38
i'd like us to sign Rubens Loftus Cheek if it's possible. i spent time down south last season and watched Palace half a dozen times - RLC was v impressive. Strong physically, looks after the ball really well and was really positive going forward . used to EPL aswell . good fit i reckon.

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21 Jun 2018 13:28:21
I like him but he's wouldn't be a first eleven player for us yet and I think he needs to be playing regularly at the moment. For his sake I hope he stays at Chelsea and is given a chance in their team.

21 Jun 2018 14:25:10
Our midfield next season might well be Hendo, Fabinho, Keita, Wijnaldum, Milner, Ox, and Fekir (? )

Woodburn and Chirivella will probably go on loan but that leaves 7 players to fill 3 positions. 8 if you include Alexander-Arnold.

Where does Ruben Loftus-Cheek get game time competing with those lads? If he leaves Chelsea it will be for game time surely?

21 Jun 2018 15:22:26
He would be great in midfield for us, with our pressing game and high intensity his energy power and pace would b a nice fit, he would b a great swap for emre can.

21 Jun 2018 16:14:16
I have to be honest hailstones, pace and energy are not words I'd use to describe him. When he actually picks his head up he has a good passing range, and he is very direct. He looks so awkward moving with the ball though and his play is so laboured. It looks like he needs 3 or 4 touches on the ball to settle himself.

He'd bring all the same problems to the team that Emre Can brought in my opinion; lack of mobility, lack of intensity, and average end product. His finishing in particular is woeful. I'm baffled by all this gushing over him. Not saying you are wrong, because to be fair most of the media are on your side!

Everyone sees the game differently I guess. I just don't see Loftus-Cheek as an upgrade on what we have. We need players who get the ball down quickly and play fast paced football. RLC is the type of player to turn a defender 2 or 3 times before releasing the ball, and our counter pressing system is built on winning the ball back high up and hitting the opposition quickly whilst they are out of position. That is why Can and Lallana got in the way, and why I believe RLC would cause the same problems.

I will agree to disagree though. Not saying you're wrong, just that I see it differently 😉.

21 Jun 2018 17:11:32
Emre can didn't bring problems at all he was a good strong player for us an we were just as good when he was in the team, I would rather have him than not, but he has gone so it doesn't matter . On loftus cheek he is a young talent who has attributes that will get better with age and experience I am not gushing over him as u say I just think he is a good option if we looking at a midfielder, just my opinion on him I think he will b a great player if he stays clear of injury as I think he might struggle with that . I really hope we stay clear of jack grealish I would have loftus cheek over him all day long .

21 Jun 2018 17:18:22
Agree MK. I don’t see where he gets a game looking at those options. Good player, but one we can afford to pass on.

21 Jun 2018 18:20:58
I haven't seen enough of rlc but what I've seen looks promising. But as mks says, we have a wealth of midfielders now. People are already wondering where Hendo, gini and aoc fit in with our new signings.

MK, you were a bit scathing of lallana in your post but I think he is a great player. People these days are judging him on last season which is wrong as he was never fully fit. The season before he was incredibly sharp and one of our best players before he ran out of steam in February.

Do you think (as I do) that we have seen the last of lallana and what are the positives of his game. You know I really appreciate your opinion mk.

21 Jun 2018 18:25:11
I agree with you on Grealish. He isn't good enough for Everton, let alone Liverpool.

21 Jun 2018 18:34:44
A few weeks ago I did say we were interested in Loftus Cheek, if he is available at a reasonable price I can definitely see us going in for him.

21 Jun 2018 18:46:18
I like the look of RLC but I agree with MK over the comparison to Emre Can, maybe he can improve the chinks in his game over time like Can didn’t manage too.
If he was available for fairly cheap I would take a risk but after making the England squad and having a good 10 minutes he will probably be worth 50m now such is the market for English players and for me he isn’t worth that.

21 Jun 2018 19:56:16
The club shop would make a fortune in shirt lettering, with RLC, AOC and TAA!

21 Jun 2018 21:39:44
Milner not getting any younger, Ox coming back from a
serious injury, Winjaldum is incosistent at best and the new signings have no experience of the premier league - i very
much hope the new signings settle straight away and have a positive impact but that is not 100%.

Having watched RLC live a few times he was excellent in behind Zaha . quick on the ball, a good passer, and full of drive going forward. Decent.

21 Jun 2018 22:16:36
He'd be a peripheral player at best. What's the point?

21 Jun 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Who do you think should go on next ?

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21 Jun 2018 13:35:01
Where’s Roy “Woy” Hodgson?

21 Jun 2018 13:56:07
Who is the bottom left?

21 Jun 2018 15:16:35
Joe Fagan.

21 Jun 2018 18:21:21
Of course, legend. Thanks.

21 Jun 2018 10:51:42
Still waiting on that podcast mk.

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21 Jun 2018 11:46:45
You still want one after hearing my voice in the pre charity match interviews? 😂

I'm working on Part 4 of the goalkeeping articles atm. Cannot remember who requested it, but if you're about, remind me who the players were. I've got Gulacsi and Donarumma in my mind but cannot remember who the other request was!

Aoe, I will try my best to do something, but no promises!

21 Jun 2018 12:26:49
No bother mate- difficult to put yourself out there, trust me I know it. This site is constantly moving forward and I think podcasts really could be an awesome thing in the future. I also think you have a fair amount to say on countless matters- regardless of whether or not people would agree, I think it would be an interesting listen. Your voice is grand mate and speech impediments have never stopped people making an impact in media and entertainment. I’m not blowing smoke up your rear, I think you could do a good job- I really do but I add that there are a number of posters on this site who I think who could offer fabulous entertainment as well. If memory serves a number of people were quite positive to the idea a few months back.

21 Jun 2018 13:33:30
I will do my best mate. First things First, I need to get hold of the right equipment as I don't know if my laptop has the correct software or hardware! I'll start looking into it though. Just for you mate!

21 Jun 2018 13:35:40
I agree aoe, podcasts seem like the next natural progression of this site. Especially if collaborations happen, always think it’s worth having different opinions to help filter through any nonsense and let people form a more general opinion.
Can imagine a podcast of MK, Putney red and someone like myself to be quite enjoyable. A Fine balance of critical, wishful and alternate thinking. Throw in the eds knowledge and a segment for Harry to air his views and it’s a home run!
‘The Livercast’.

21 Jun 2018 13:37:13
I'd be up for a listen if this was to come about. I think I previously said to do one with Harry as I think the different views would make a good listen.

21 Jun 2018 13:56:52
That'll be good.

21 Jun 2018 14:03:59
Haha cheers mk and cheers guys- I think it really could be something great going forward. If I had any time at all I’d be attempting it myself but I’m swamped at the moment with my work deadlines. I don’t mean to presume but you could always ask Benny for tips. He seems to have an idea how to set things up. I think if there was a regular podcast, guests would not be a problem at all.

{Ed001's Note - maybe they could do one together? It is very difficult for me to find the time to do the podcasts with benny, when I am free, he is at work or asleep and vice versa. Plus they are near enough to each other to actually do it in person and remove one of the biggest problems of getting a decent connection.}

21 Jun 2018 14:06:31
Happy to do some standup in between the serious stuff.

Think Milton Jones doing bad dad jokes 😉😂.

21 Jun 2018 14:11:56
Thats a good idea ed, especially if they live closer together. I just had to throw my name into the hat as I’ve always wanted to do podcasts/ radio presenting since I did my high school tour of Hope university and got to trial it 😂.

{Ed001's Note - there is no limit to the number of presenters they can have....}

21 Jun 2018 14:14:44
Gotta keep the dad’s of this site entertained haven’t you Zed 😉.

21 Jun 2018 14:22:25
Poor old mk- it’s gathering momentum and all he wants to do is finish his articles on goalkeepers. Sorry mate 😂😂😂.

21 Jun 2018 14:49:52
If Benny is up for it, then I'm sure it's something we could arrange!

21 Jun 2018 16:42:09
That would be class MK mate!

21 Jun 2018 18:59:13
Eyy Adam, if you're doing a podcast add in Ken, Harry and take it all back to old days of this page mate XD.

21 Jun 2018 18:48:36
I requested Donnarumma and Oblak after your initial review, although I think Iv missed your third instalment.


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