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15 Sep 2018 07:05:34
Big game today people, and a true test of our defence. Leicester was difficult but that was mainly due to our midfield being second best and not because Leicester's front line were at their best. Today will be different and Kane with the assistance of Moura, Son, etc will test theback four.
The key for me today is that our midfield get the better of Erikksen and co which will help our back line.
I see goals in the game, and I'm going for a 2-1 or 3-2 win for the Red Men with Mo scoring at any time. 25/ 1 and 100/ 1 respectively so there is the tip for today fellow red men, let's hope we do the cockneys and get JK his first Wembley victory.

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15 Sep 2018 08:31:48
Morning shughes those prices are with Salah first goal not anytime scorer.

15 Sep 2018 08:48:02
I've got a really strong feeling of Liverpool to win 3-1 with mane scoring first, I never bet on these things but seriously thinking of doing so today.

15 Sep 2018 08:52:15
I fancy that result as well Welsh. Any win will do me though.

15 Sep 2018 09:36:34
It’ll be interesting too see if Keita starts today, Henderson or Gini too.
I’m going 1-2 Liverpool, though a draw would not be unexpected either.
Cmon you Redmen.

15 Sep 2018 09:43:41
Virgil anytime 12/ 1 and Bobby anytime and win 9/ 2 for me.

15 Sep 2018 10:51:28
I went all out with 4-0 Bobby to score 1st @ 225/ 1
Come on red men.

15 Sep 2018 10:52:21
MarkP I stand corrected, they are indeed with Mo scoring first.
Don't normally do first goal but I have this week!
It might just pay off.

15 Sep 2018 19:38:25
Ok got the score correct but not the goalscorer this week.
Big win today although it was way easier than the score line represents, we need to be more clinical.

15 Sep 2018 20:02:47
Imagine when we start playing well, good times ahead.

15 Sep 2018 06:23:35
Morning Eds/ reds,

Finally the day has come! it took long enough didn't it? Hope you all have a great time today watching us rip them to shreads :) . This is the game I see us putting in a real top performance, Spurs won't handle us!

Hope everybody is well.

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15 Sep 2018 06:46:37
Cheers salah, a bit nervous about the match today after last year at Wembley. got to remember our defence has been completely overhauled since then tho!

15 Sep 2018 08:37:29
I am feeling positive that we will put in a top performance today. Last years game was a disaster but we have improved such a lot in the past year.

VVD, Allison, Robertson, Keita all make such a difference and Mane didn't play last year either.

15 Sep 2018 08:44:39
Can't wait! 9:30pm kick off in Australia :)

15 Sep 2018 08:49:41
Jonesythered, I feel you. Finally a decent time for us in Australia to tune in!

15 Sep 2018 09:37:07
Exactly my thoughts too mark mate, the additions we've brought in, we'll get them dealt with I have no doubts about it.

15 Sep 2018 11:33:26
Aussiemark, where are you? I'm in Hervey Bay, qld. Wife is about to go to bed as she's not into any sport. My red mad son is away so it'll just be me and a nice Barossa Shiraz. No complaints. Just about to FaceTime my brother still living in Liverpool, so good to have some local connection.

14 Sep 2018 18:12:02
Good evening Ed001.

How are you mate, not spoke for a while and not been on much.

Wanted your opinion on Fabinho mate. Do you see him involved this weekend at all? He must be close to settling in by now.

{Ed001's Note - I would have expected him to be in there if he had not been away with Brazil. That was a good chance for him to train with Klopp and work on what he needs to do. Best he can hope for really is the bench now.}

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14 Sep 2018 18:54:36
Cheers mate. I guess he will get game time eventually with the amount of games we have coming up. Would you agree that if Milner and Gini had not upped there game like they have then he might of already played? Who would you go with tonorrow in Midfield?

{Ed001's Note - I don't see why people think Gini has. He played well in the first game and has hidden from the ball ever since. He is not keeping anyone out on his performances. Fabinho would be on the bench if that was all it was. I would drop Gini and bring Hendo in. Millie, Hendo and Keita for me.}

14 Sep 2018 19:31:33
I don’t understand the obsession with Fabinho playing, we’ve won our first 4 games without him, better to let him settle properly than rush him into the team. Klopp did the same last season with Robertson and the Ox, Fabinho will play when he is ready.

14 Sep 2018 21:06:52
Exactly kramer. The other lads in midfield had a great season last year, they have earned their shot. If fabhino played we would be asking why milne or Henderson is not playing. Klopp does this and it works. I think it makes players appreciate their position more once they nail it down.

Keita is just a top top player who I don't think has even got out of 2nd gear yet and is still playing well. The truth is we have lots of very good players dying to put on the shirt and perform for us. Tomorrow is a big test which I think we can win.

14 Sep 2018 23:41:41
Mane
I don't think the midfield players had a great season last year. Apart from ox they didn't add many goals. If the front three aren't scoring then the midfield need to chip in.

14 Sep 2018 23:59:28
Kramer - we have won our first 4 games. but for me we have really struggled in 3 of them. Huge test tomorrow as I think this is our first real test so far this season. Get 3 points tomorrow and that will be a massive statement.

I think our best players are suffering from World Cup hangover, and the ridiculous international friendlies don't help. Also we have the early kick off again tomorrow, so it will be a tough ask. Spurs are a very good team and will be challenging for the top places this season.

Are you feeling confident?

15 Sep 2018 04:25:19
Am I confident we will beat Spurs if Fabinho doesn’t play? Yes.

14 Sep 2018 16:34:16
So there’s a surprise. Just as the men are doing well, the women are in uproar with Redfearn having just walked. I hope they get back on track, they were champions only a couple of years ago and I hope you all think the LFC family includes the women as well. Good luck to Chris Kirkland and Vicky Jepson as they try and steady the ship. Whatever happened last season, the loss of ten players was always going to make things difficult. Let’s hope they improve soon. Great to have Kirkland back at the club, he was so unlucky with injury.
YNWA.

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14 Sep 2018 14:31:13
Not really allowed to discuss the full details at the moment, but I will be officiating a very high level tournament, that includes Liverpool.
It's u15s, but in my second season refereeing, I am completely over the moon to be selected for an amazing event, with other premier league clubs and big names from Europe coming over.
Thought I'd share the news with my lfc rumours family :)

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14 Sep 2018 14:54:30
Congratulations mate, hope you are in for a lot of warranted abuse ;)

14 Sep 2018 14:56:31
Benny, curious to get a clearly qualified referees opinion on a couple of things. What do you think of VAR? What can be done with the simulation (neymar) problem in world football?

14 Sep 2018 14:56:46
Think I forget to mention, congrats!

14 Sep 2018 15:35:11
Excellent news mate.

14 Sep 2018 15:40:26
Fantastic news Benny, congratulations mate!

14 Sep 2018 15:44:23
Sorry, forgot to answer your second question.
I personally think a lot of referees start too young, an I am grateful I played at a good level for 20 years before going into refereeing. What it allows you to see is when people are trying to con a referee. There’s ways to fall naturally, unaturally, creating contact etc. Last week I had the same guy throw himself to the floor twice in the box, there was the slightest contact both times, but he was so dramatic and tried to make it out as it were a foul “ remember, football is a contact sport, not every touch is a foul”
I waived both away. I didn’t book him though, as I believe there was contact. I think a lot of people in the game say “well if it’s not a penalty, it is a yellow card for diving “ in which I disagree. I only book when I’m 100% there’s no contact.
The player came up to me and my team for the after game handshake, with a massive grin and laugh, telling me I was spot on both times. We shared a laugh and that was the end of it for me.
There is a vast amount of players with quick feet who purposely make the contact into the defender, ali, Kane, Zaha, young to name a few, and buying into it is just down to poor refereeing.
Neymar is a different kettle of fish, because he is so quick, and skilful, he actually is fouled A LOT, the problem is, he rolls around like he has been shot, whether there is zero, minimal, or full contact ( a foul) which must make it so hard for some referees.
My god what a waffle that was. Sorry if I bore, I guess the short answer is better, stronger and more seasoned referees.

14 Sep 2018 15:31:14
Thanks guys :)
Mana, I think VAR is wonderful. The problem with it, and will always exist, is the referees using it. Still making wrong decisions. 4 guys watching the tv? Just creates madness and panic. It needs one guy watching, who, if he thinks, the referee missed something, comes on the radio “ alright mate, might want to stop play an have a look at that tackle again, but your call bro”
“ I think that was a handball and didn’t come off his thigh buddy, might want to disallow the goal before you restart play, but have a look and it’s your call, bro “.

14 Sep 2018 16:46:43
Good luck benny.

14 Sep 2018 17:29:05
Congrats Benny!

{Ed025's Note - well done benny...just dont be biased towards liverpool like all the refs in the prem mate.. :)

14 Sep 2018 17:41:16
Well done Benny. Now we will have 13th men too ;) . Ed025, Benny is our own Howard Webb.

{Ed025's Note - except benny is not a cheat stg, well as far as i know.. :)

14 Sep 2018 17:45:41
You are right though Ed.

14 Sep 2018 18:05:42
Well done mate, really pleased for you!

Remember, even at that level, you need to take care of your nutritional needs.

Steer clear of Tibet water and ensure you always have a few slices of cattoast to hand in case you are peckish 😀.

14 Sep 2018 19:47:16
Well done Baller.

Alisson was fouled 👍.

14 Sep 2018 20:55:45
Brilliant Benny Boy, remember all Mancs (especially Ken) are divers 😝 so please remind the ref from our charity game that his decision was sent to VAR and our live Facebook commentary teams’ laughter confirmed the Irish Wilf Zaha had been cleared for landing on runway 3.
Obviously the second “tackle” I made on Ken made sure that if the ref was going to give him a foul anyway, it might as well be worth my while 😱
On the bright side Ken I’ll never be able to catch you next year, following my new dietition “The Colonels” advice 🍔🍟🐷.

14 Sep 2018 23:01:20
Great news Benny! Congratulations. You'll be GREAT!

15 Sep 2018 00:09:15
Nice one Benny well done mate.
On the VAR subject I think it should be used for black and white decisions only. Is it offside? Was the ball out of play? Did he put the ball in with his hand, did he dive without contact etc.
When you start using it for fouls there’s just too much room for human opinion. We’ve already seen that even with VAR refs are coming to what many would say is the wrong decision. That for me, puts the refs under even more pressure to explain their decisions having seen it on a screen or been told it’s a foul in their ear after the event and still getting it wrong in many people’s eyes.
I think we have to accept that some decisions will always be a matter of opinion, it’s what makes our game so compelling.
As a former player you just have to accept the ref’s decision and move on whether you agree with it or not. VAR doesn’t change that it just confuses it.

15 Sep 2018 05:44:43
Congratulations and best of luck!

14 Sep 2018 13:53:00
{Eds Note - Ed001 has created the following on the Football Player Ratings site over the last week:

Ray Parlour v Charlie Dimmock
Albert Steptoe v Jamie Vardy
Ferenc Puskas v Pele
Graham Souness v Yosser Hughes
Jack Charlton v Sergio Ramos
Eric Djemba Djemba v Kleberson
Vinny Jones v Robin Friday

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14 Sep 2018 16:30:02
Brill, loving these Ed, you've done quite a lot now, niceone!

{Ed001's Note - I post up a new one each day, trying to build up a lot of them.}

14 Sep 2018 17:47:35
Hi Ed, can we have Mourinho vs Ross (F. R. I. E. N. D. S)

{Ed001's Note - I guess, but what is the thing there?}

14 Sep 2018 18:45:57
Ricky Tomlinson once tw@tted Yosser Hughes and lived to tell the tale.
His (Tomo) autobiography is brilliant, and he’s a Red.

14 Sep 2018 11:30:00
Not sure if everyone has seen, but Liverpool have decided not to renew their contract with Tibet water.

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14 Sep 2018 12:28:43
Excellent. Hydration is vastly underrated 👍.

14 Sep 2018 13:14:13
*over-rated! 🙈.

14 Sep 2018 15:40:51
Hahaha only you Zed lol.

14 Sep 2018 10:58:44
Hi All,

Mancity have announced record revenue this season cross 500 million for year ended June 2018. They are only the second club to do say in premier league i think.

Liverpool's last year revenue was 364 million (year ended May 2017).

I think if our general revenue stream from past year have remained stable and with the CL money and additional admission money we should be able to reach the 500 million mark too.

Wont find out until next year though i think as May 2017 was published in Feb/ March this year.

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14 Sep 2018 12:15:03
So what’s your point?

Why the interest in money?

What ever happened to the days of football just being about the football?

It’s the same with the obsession over the actual costs of the transfers. Why does it really matter?

Red Sandman.

14 Sep 2018 12:40:06
Football is football, being in a good place financially is better for football on the pitch allows you to invest in players, training ground facilities etc.

I don't know why you have to snap like this. The actual football is no1 but some people are interested in other things regarding the club too.

14 Sep 2018 12:47:21
Some people have a multi faceted interest in the things that they like.

For example, I am mad about trees. They are crazily interesting things that most people have no idea about other than to say “Ooh that’s a big tree”, or whatever. I could be into trees and just know the names of the species ( i. e watching football and knowing teams and players etc), which is what Sandman seemed to be alluding to. That’s all fine but then when you dig down into how they work, control ecosystems, talk to eachother, keep eachother alive etc (to which an ignoramus would say it’s mumbo jumbo, but then I would ask you to read a bit before making conclusions), you find out there is more to it than just saying, “whatever happened to the days of trees just being trees”?

This is a proper ramble, I apologise, but my point is just because you want to merely watch and enjoy the sporting side of things does not mean that interest should not be found in the other parts of the game as well.

14 Sep 2018 13:21:59
That was a fine rant Angry Bardzo.

Ever thought about branching out into a daily rant, a bit like “what really grinds by gears” by Peter Griffin?

You could be at the beech-head of such a movement where people can just be themselves and indulge their (innocent) interests.

People shouldn’t be able to just limit discussions to a narrow boundaries by playing the “oh that old hoary chestnut” line.

You often need to explore a topic in depth to get to the root of it.

I salute your crusade to live and let live, and your words do not upset me one little bit, I’m sure your bark is much worse than your bite.

So continue this crusade and I’m sure it will gather traction - from little acorns do mighty oaks grow.

Just twigged?

I’ll leave.

😉.

14 Sep 2018 13:56:43
Fair play Zed. Not sure how long that took you but gave me a well needed Friday chuckle mate. 😂.

14 Sep 2018 14:08:11
Ha! Zeddicus, my friend, you must have grown on a tree, because you are a nut!

I must admit, I do like a good rant. Some things you just have to get off of your chest. If I didn't, I might turn form Angry to Apoplectic and nobody wants that so there you go, one membership to the Piss and Moan About Everything Club please.

14 Sep 2018 15:08:02
Really hope the "branching out" was intended. Classic.

14 Sep 2018 16:41:03
2 lines in I knew Zeddicus was up to mischief. 😆.

14 Sep 2018 17:41:57
You love big lumps of wood that don’t move Bardzo? You must’ve been gutted when Benteke left ;)

{Ed025's Note - i like that bobby..

14 Sep 2018 18:06:49
😂 cheers Ed.

14 Sep 2018 22:25:32
You would certainly think so, but not really Bobby. All trees are doing more while standing still than Benteke does while moving around. I still can’t believe we recouped as much as we did for him.

14 Sep 2018 08:18:59
"The launch of the new four-year partnership sees Verbier become the first official Alpine tourism destination of LFC in Europe. "

Maybe it's just me but the fact a football club has an official alpine tourist destination just makes me a little sad.

The large section of the fan base can't afford to even get to too many games anymore. Never mind afford an alpine holiday.

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14 Sep 2018 10:22:09
Gotta stick with the times mate we can't afford another decade like the 90's of falling years behind. If skiing keeps us there then so be it haha.

14 Sep 2018 10:43:15
Agreed. It's not just about the times, but keeping up with the financial muscle of the others. ManU has 80 sponsorship/ partnership deals at this moment, and it's no surprise that they've been able to achieve what they have in terms of player recruitment and global popularity, in the last two decades. As long as sponsors/ partners adhere to the same values LFC stands for, and is associated with, we should continue the same course.

14 Sep 2018 12:55:28
Who cares if people can’t afford to go and watch the games? Liverpool FC is an international company with international customers. Just because a few thousand out of the worldwide millions don’t now get to games shouldn’t impinge on which sponsorship partners they have. What about random African in Conakry who can’t afford to go to the games? What about me in Oxfordshire who can’t afford to go to games? We really do have to stop feeling sorry for those fans who ‘only’ get to see their team play several times a year, let alone the thousands of poor season ticket holders who are fortunate enough to be able to see the team week in week out.

It is what it is. Put up or go and support a smaller local team.

{Ed002's Note - Any deals with organisations that are socially questionable (e.g. Bet Victor), socially bankrupt or have caused the club embarrassment (e.g. Dunkin’ Donuts), nonsense (Nivea and the club’s official coconut water supplier TCC), are from a country with controversial human rights (flag carrier Malaysian Airlines – who replaced just as bad Indonesia’s Garuda) should be cancelled or run down as soon as possible. Being on morally better ground will make a club with Liverpool’s profile to get better profile sponsors. However, Liverpool are one of the clubs that care not one hoot about the principles of right and wrong, human rights and the scruples of some of their sponsors.}

14 Sep 2018 13:22:59
With a ski partner on board I’m sure we’ll get a downhill run to the title this year boys! 👍.

14 Sep 2018 13:50:57
You sound like you're piste, Zedd.

14 Sep 2018 14:16:40
Completely fair enough Ed. I agree that the standard of the companies that sponsor Liverpool should of course be more important than the size of their wallets, but the fact that they judged based on what they sell or which sector they are from shouldn’t really come into question, unless it is a question of morality. If only one percent of Liverpool fans can afford their product then fine, as long as they want to give the club some cash and sell responsible ski holidays, i’m happy. (Of course free ski holidays for all Liverpool fans would be better, but hey)

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with what Liverpool fans do or don't buy from the sponsors, it is about the morals of associating the club with some of the businesses for what are relatively small financial returns in exchange for use of the club name, photo opportunity rights with players, tickets to games - including many from the Liverpool allocation to the Champions League final.}

14 Sep 2018 14:52:28
Fair enough, I hadn’t thought of it like that. Still, sponsorship of this type is part and parcel of the modern game. I would much rather LFC distanced themselves from the morally bankrupt types, but just as some of the most greedy, nefarious and ill reputed people control the things we need in life, the same sort of people will try and get their fingers into the things we love. We could all live in a yurt in the Yukon and cut ourselves off from everything corruptable, I suppose.

{Ed002's Note - A lot of clubs do distance themselves from sponsors who are inappropriate. I am surprised Liverpool don't, but I am surprised who little they think of the local residents as well. I think the club is better than that and it is something they should be able to deal with easily.}

14 Sep 2018 15:32:12
Not to mention Standard Chartered as our official sponsor Ed002. We shouldn't be associated to morally questionable companies. There are a lot of others who could represent the club in good stand.

14 Sep 2018 16:02:04
All down hill from here.

14 Sep 2018 16:53:07
I won’t start worrying too much until we get owners that come from a country with a controversial human rights record. Oh wait.

14 Sep 2018 18:20:38
Class Kramer.

14 Sep 2018 07:55:33
Tomorrow marks the start of a really quite tricky run of fixtures, starting with Spurs away. Not a happy hunting ground in recent times, plus the added dred of a 12.30pm kick it doesn't bode well - or does it?

A good win against Tottenham tomorrow will give us a real boost for the up and coming fixtures, a real test of our squad depth.

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14 Sep 2018 11:31:18
Every fixture in the premier are tricky we just have to continue impryour form and keep winning games going forward.

 


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