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14 May 2018 19:17:09
When it rains it pours! Just read that Ox not only injured his acl but the medial ligament and hamstring too. So we may not see him on the field in 2018 again. Recovery is going to take time and effort. Really empathize for the guy. Was beginning to come onto his own, and carve his own place in the team. 😒 🤞.

ArAy1969

1.) 14 May 2018 20:08:53
Big shame for the lad, was coming into his own as well - hopefully he can make a full recovery.


2.) 14 May 2018 20:12:19
If that's true, everything else will be healed by the time his ACL has healed. It isn't like only 1 thing heals at a time.


3.) 14 May 2018 20:24:10
Don't count on seeing Ox until December 2018.


4.) 14 May 2018 20:53:15
He will be like a new signing for the second part of the season and all being well he will come back big and strong.

He has really impressed both on and off the pitch.

Got a feeling the Ox is going to pick up plenty of trophies with us in the next few seasons.

Let’s get number 6 to give him a boost.


5.) 14 May 2018 21:23:47
A bad blow and an area I get increasingly worried about. With Coutinho gone and Can likely to leave this summer we have a shortage in midfield, we have Keita arriving which eases some of the worry but now Chamberlain isn’t due back until December.

As it is we have.

Henderson (some injury issues) .
Milner.
Wijnaldum.
Can (leaving in summer) .
Chamberlain (out until December) .
Lallana (likely to leave) .

Keita

It seems Ceballos is highly likely which if happens gives us.

Henderson.
Milner.
Keita.
Wijnaldum.
Chamberlain.
Ceballos.

Plus Coutinho still needs replacing which hopefully mean Fekir or Pulisic arrives. Given Chamberlain is out until at least December and the possibility of any of the front three being injured or out of form, should we look to sign Ceballos, Pulisic and Fekir?

Would give us great depth and quality in midfield and attack.


6.) 14 May 2018 21:26:36
Chambo actually sourced 2 tickets for a father and son he met near the end of the season.

class act on and off the pitch!

hope he stays positive through his injury and can get through this!


7.) 14 May 2018 22:44:10
I kept thinking we got lucky with being him injury free compared to his arsenal days and now he's crocked. At least he's got the summer to recover and hopefully he can make it back before the busy christmas period.


8.) 14 May 2018 22:57:46
Hopefully he doesn't lose his pace and explosiveness. Really liked him this season, and offers a good option in the middle or wide. We Definetely need cover out wide, pace and the option to play as a forward or attacking midfielder too. Fekir ticks that box for me.


9.) 14 May 2018 22:42:25
Jonesred I understand your concerns and I’ve just been having a near identical conversation with a mate as he had the same worries. But I personally think that if we sign our targets (Cellabos and AM) along with Keita, then we will have sufficient players to cope with Ox’s injury.

If we use this seasons formation as an example and look at the squad hypothetically with those signings. Hendo, Keita and Fekir start with gigi, Milner and Cellabos in reserve is plenty, even if let’s say we lose hendo and Fekir to injury, we still would have a midfield of Cellabos, Keita and gig/ Milner, and then gives players like Trent and Woodburn the opportunity to play in midfield. Especially if we sign a rightback as the eds have mentioned.

I’d say signing another midfielder on top of all that could end up being more disruptive than productive.
Cheers.


10.) 15 May 2018 01:10:48
Don’t forget about TTA.


11.) 15 May 2018 05:57:23
Terrible shame. Ox had become an automatic starter in the midfield. An explosive player. He was outstanding against City in the CL.

This is clearly a very serious injury to his knee. It is entirely possible he will come back as good as before. Also entirely possible he will never be the same player.

At this point, the club has to plan for life without him. "Back in December2018", "nine months" etc are all just guesses.

So we very much need to bring in another midfielder now, in addition to Keita.


12.) 16 May 2018 15:27:32
No way Lallana leaves this summer - I expect him to make an impact when he gets subbed in in the 65th minute of the CL Final.

That being said, I only think we'll bring in 1 or 2 additional midfielders.

I personally get excited about the potential of a Milner, Keita, Ox midfield, and I don't think it's the end of the world if Lallana starts the season in Ox's spot

Bottom line, I'm not too worried about our midfield depth, even though it looks rough for the CL Final.


13.) 17 May 2018 15:58:50
He is only 24 yo. I remember Mane was injured and got back in 2 months.


 

 

 

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12 May 2019 22:01:11
Well done to our boys. Masterful performance throughout a long and tedious season, with only one defeat. It's those 5 away draws (7 overall) that made life more difficult for us than it could have been. The best defense in the league; two players as joint Golden Boot winners.

Onwards to June 1st. I'm confident Klopp will manage the boys well and not let any loss of self confidence or low morale seep in. And the boys have a point to prove. It's okay if ManC are the best in England, we can be the best in Europe. That's no second best in my book.

ArAy1969

1.) 13 May 2019 14:44:56
Tedious?
It's been the best for years.


2.) 13 May 2019 14:49:10
Wrong choice of word, Rigsby. I meant strenuous.


 

 

08 May 2019 21:58:35
Oh my God. It's Spurs in the last 15 seconds of the game.

ArAy1969

1.) 08 May 2019 22:01:59
Fair Play- cracking effort by them
Deserved victory.

Big chance missed first leg by Ajax to go 2 up.

Just like Dembele v us.


2.) 08 May 2019 22:06:37
If we think our name is on the trophy, what must the Spurs fans think?
What a match could be in store.
Sake.


3.) 08 May 2019 22:06:38
That is a cracking effort. No player investment to talk of for a few windows, a lot of injuries and 3-0 on aggregate with 45 mins to play. Great effort. Shame it will lead to nothing for them.


4.) 08 May 2019 22:07:08
So based on form, whoever scores first in the final will lose.


5.) 08 May 2019 22:11:33
No, Something Red.
Whoever goes 3-0 up, loses!


6.) 08 May 2019 22:12:59
Who score the first three you mean Red!


7.) 08 May 2019 22:22:43
SR, you pretty much nailed it.


 

 

25 Apr 2019 09:47:41
How Ederson has made it to the PFA Team of the Year, ahead of Alisson is beyond me. He's being clearly underrated. Probably the "VVD" effect. And how Pogba makes it into the team is clearly a joke.

ArAy1969

1.) 25 Apr 2019 09:56:56
Pogba - the one thing Roy Keane and Mourinho agree on 😄.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 10:01:19
Really? Pogba?


3.) 25 Apr 2019 10:44:25
The whole pogba thing is just PR and his image! He can go 8 games being absolutely dreadful. Then score a penalty and have a half decent game. And media and the new breed of brain dead social media fans with no clue about the game jump all over it, and he's amazing again! Sign of the times we live in unfortunately!


4.) 25 Apr 2019 11:10:10
Ederson was MOM against Spurs the other day. Allison has added a calmness to the defence but I cannot think of one outstanding save he has made this season. He has just gone about and done his job without a fuss. Don’t get me wrong I do think Allison is world class but i also think we haven’t seen the best of him yet.


5.) 25 Apr 2019 11:40:32
Allison has been good but not great.
Happy he's with us of course but Ederson has definitely been the better keeper and has had less nervous moments / mistakes this season.

The fact that we have 3 defenders in PFA TOTY and have only conceded 2 goals less than City says something.


6.) 25 Apr 2019 12:09:28
It says nothing. ederson makes the most useless saves in the league, faces less shot than ali and makes less saving percentage than ali.


7.) 25 Apr 2019 12:31:00
g1dgo? What LFC you are watching? Will tell just two quick examples, one from CL and one from PL. The one that kept us in CL vs Napoli in the dying minutes of the game and the one vs Burnley from a corner to keep the score 2-1 / if im not mistaken/ and after that he started the counter attack to make the result 3-1.
He has plenty of such saves. Even in the last game vs Cardiff he made a decent one from the scissor kick.


8.) 25 Apr 2019 12:54:39
Don’t be too hard on pogba, must be tiring spraying one 49 yard ball a game and walking round like you own the place for ninety minutes.


9.) 25 Apr 2019 13:46:59
I think Ederson and Alisson have been very evenly matched. Alisson has better distribution in geberal because for a start, he can use both feet. But Ederson is better at the holy wood pass. They've both made big saves, and they've both made big mistakes. Alisson probably has more big saves, but also more mistakes.

Personally I'd have voted Alisson as it is the best first season in the Prem from a goalkeeper since Petr Cech in my opinion, but Ederson is still a worthy winner. It's certainly not as shocking as some are making out. Ederson is on 18 clean sheets!


10.) 25 Apr 2019 14:03:41
Fabianski has had a brilliant season in a bang average west ham team. Allison and ederson have had decent seasons with the best teams and defences in front of them. Pogba being picked is an absolute joke. Ridiculous. Where's Ryan Fraser? Or son from Tottenham?

My team 3-4-3

Fabianski

Doherty - vvd - Robertson

Fraser - fabinho -
Hazard - Bernardo Silva

Sterling - Son - Mane

(Saints fan)


11.) 25 Apr 2019 14:46:46
g1dgo, you have not seen one outstanding save Allison has made yet this season? Really? You actually said that with a straight face? Pls, search Youtube to find Allison's world class saves vs Napoli at home, Brighton at home, Everton at home and many more. Ederson has not had to make any save as good as say the ones Allison made vs Napoli and Everton. Allison is better than Ederson based on overall talent. Aderson may be a lot more flashy BUT the guy seems to concede on the first couple of shots on target than Allison does.

As for Pogba, him getting into the Team of the Season is just another piece of evidence that football in England is rigged.


12.) 25 Apr 2019 15:19:20
Alisson has had less saves to make because our defence is better.

I guarantee not one liverpool fan would swap alsson for ederson. And i reckon the majority of nuetrals would pick Becker.

Big blow last night but its not over until the fat lady sings.

Ive thought since the city spurs game that we have more chance of lifting the ucl. Barcelona over 2 legs is more than doable. Then its spurs or ajax, both of who i feel we would batter.


13.) 25 Apr 2019 15:36:36
Martolfc. I rate Allison really highly. The two saves you mention are valid. My point being his positioning and footwork is so much better than we’ve seen at Liverpool for a while, there is no world class save to see. Ederson has a habit of coming off the line and making eye catching one on one saves. How many one on ones has Allison even faced due to our backline being so tight? It’s a bit like Skrtel being judged as a better defender than Agger due to his poor initial positioning and last minute lunges.


14.) 25 Apr 2019 16:00:10
Ederson

Wan bissaka, laporte, van dijk, robbo

Fernandinho, d. silva, b. silva

Sterling, hazard, mane.


15.) 25 Apr 2019 17:34:09
Baffled over pogda him over Salah or hazard!
Could argue about Ederson he’s a good keeper!


16.) 25 Apr 2019 17:36:43
Mafootball - no it’s doesn’t say anything, other than City’s midfield is remarkable in possession and that teams are too cowardly to attack them. Ederson had a good game against Spurs, but he is very vulnerable when teams actually have the bravery to try against City.

The Premier League is a joke competition and so are 17/20 managers in it.


17.) 25 Apr 2019 17:45:06
Redwolf. I said I can’t remember. My face is as straight as clearly my memory is crap! I still maintain Allison usually does the bread and butter very very well. I just personally don’t recall him getting many opportunities to show his true and world class level. It doesn’t surprise me he didn’t make the PFA team. I still prefer Allison over anyone else in the premier league.


18.) 25 Apr 2019 18:06:04
How is pogba in there! We have a few who have been better. Gini, milner, fabhino.

But i would choose wjinaldum, he has been brilliant consistently this year. But actually i think erikson should be there in place of pogba.

{Ed002's Note - He is there because he gained the most votes from his peers.}


19.) 25 Apr 2019 18:06:55
Lowel "teams are too cowardly to attack them" are you talking about Liverpool?


20.) 25 Apr 2019 19:41:07
Yep fair enough ed02. He is a good footballer, extremely gifted. The players know that. But he doesn't apply his talent enough to saturday afternoon.

He is a better footballer than gini but gini has played WAY better than pogba this season.


21.) 25 Apr 2019 21:00:24
Mark08, No. Not like LFC. Klopp is the only manager who has consistently pummeled Pep's teams whether it be Bayer or City. Pep is terrified of any team that attacks City. This is why he came to Anfield this season and by his standards, parked the bus. He then admitted after the game that LFC was the only team he would "park the bus" as in, change his tactics and become more conservative for.

In the game at the Etihad, LFC had more shots on target than City, could have won the game had Mane's shot not come off the post and out and Ederson made a brilliant save from Salah while the defence cleared two shots off the line. Yeah, those are facts about how LFC ATTACK City. If that is LFC being "cowardly" in your view then, I am excited to see what happens to City when LFC become brave. Peace!


22.) 26 Apr 2019 00:15:21
Nice one Milky. I always prefer a neutral view point on things because bias is put to one side. I've watched every game of Liverpool this season and only a few of all the other teams so of course I'm not going to be able to vote or think objectively.

I think Allison has done wonders for us this season, but has he done any more than Ederson? Seeing as it's a PFA vote I would suggest that players they have faced would think not. Same goes for Pogba. He looks like a waste of space half the time, but when the vote was cast super Solskjaer had taken over and Utd were beating all with Pogba at the heart of it.

I would think the football writers team would be different.


23.) 26 Apr 2019 00:19:23
g1dgo, I accept your opinion. i just disagree with it. In fact, Ederson is more vulnerable to conceding than Allison is. Also, Pep spent 250m on defenders alone since he came so it is not Allison's fault that regardless of these vast amounts of money spent on protecting Ederson, City's GK is still gets exposed any time a team puts three passes together on the counter. I mean, watch the Spurs CL games. The guy conceded 4 goals on 7 shots on target and in the league game last week, he was seriously exposed again by their crap defence. Again, not my problem.

Allison is not just good at the bread and butter stuff as that is doing a HUGE disservice to his immense overall talent. If that was all he was good at then why can't Ederson get a sniff with the Brazil team where he is Allison's deputy? Either way, we both agree that Allison is the better GK and I can live with that. Cheers, man.


 

 

16 Apr 2019 22:08:48
Maybe it's me and the way I think, but Guardiola saying "Both Liverpool and ManC deserve to win the EPL title" is really surprising. To me it hints at a bit of weakness, some lack of self belief and no overwhelming self-confidence (which is the need of the hour if you absolutely want to win) . Being fair and polite is all nice and everything, but come on. It's the deciding point of the battle for the season. I don't know of any other coach who would declare another team deserved the title while the chase was still on.

ArAy1969

1.) 16 Apr 2019 23:49:22
I wouldn’t read into comments too much to be honest, especially as English isn’t even his first language, what he’s saying is true as well.


2.) 17 Apr 2019 00:08:09
What and if he said Liverpool don’t deserve it, that wouldn’t rile us up? If anything he’s raising the pressure.


3.) 17 Apr 2019 02:00:14
My golden rule - always disregard what players and managers say to the cameras 👍.


4.) 17 Apr 2019 06:15:57
Both he and Klopp are saying the same thing - two fantastic sides and both would have won the league hands down in years gone by so both would be worthy winners.

It’s true, and don’t think it’s an admission of weakness, it’s just trying to take pressure off the players. If they can stop players from thinking coming second is a disaster and complete failure, it’s more likely they will play their natural game and not tighten up in the run-in.


5.) 17 Apr 2019 06:29:07
I agree with that golden rule. Plus who knows what stupid question he was answering. Football reporters ask the most insipid questions to get the answers they want for their pre-planned story.


6.) 17 Apr 2019 09:19:22
Hes either being humble and respectful or playing mind games and putting pressure on us.


7.) 17 Apr 2019 10:52:07
Yeah, mind games imo. Tbh I'm not fussed at what he has to say, he's 2nd in the league and will be at the end, that'll do me, anything else is irrelevant.

Roll on us lifting that trophy. There can be only one as highlander would say and its Liverpool, mind games won't work with this team, we're about to witness something special, let's enjoy it :) .


8.) 17 Apr 2019 12:53:57
Pep ain't a bad bloke imo, look how they ran away with it last season, i think they had already won it at this stage. They strengthened in the summer but we have been toe to toe with them all this year. He gave us praise. And it was praise that is deserved. I don't see an issue. Klopp also said "whoever wins it deserves it.


 

 

07 Feb 2019 11:15:13
Question for Ed001, if I may. I was just thinking about the season thus far and which players have made a positive contribution and which ones have not. Can I ask you to give us your assessment so far (even though we are only 2/ 3 of the way through)? But do it in the same fashion that you do the individual player ratings for games, in terms of who has been a plus for the season so far, and who has taken away from the season. (For example a rating above 5 for Salah and VVD, but below 5 for Keita for the season - my opinion)

I'll understand if you feel it is premature and prefer to do it at the end of the season. 👍.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - I will try and get that done. If I can do it now for you I will, if I get sidetracked it may end up taking a while though.}


1.) 07 Feb 2019 11:41:41
Good enough Ed001, and many thanks, in advance. 👍.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


2.) 07 Feb 2019 12:45:31
I have a theory: VVD is a massive influence on the team and now with Alisson I think (at melwood) they are making our team a more defensive outfit. Thus giving way to our former free flowing attacking football. I don't remember the last time we scored 5 in a game, last season we did it regularly. Rarely scored less that 3.we were scoring 7 goals a game.

We are missing gini massively and also trent who has the pace and skill to get on the end of virgil's Cross field balls that have been so effective this season.

Mane, the one player who can bamboozle defences and beat 3 players in a split second and his goals are keeping us in the title race.

Klopp said he had his free flowing Liverpool back when we scored 4 and 3 in 2 back to back games so I don't think it's klopp who is asking them to play defensively as priority. I think it's the influence of our WC player: Van dijke.

Imo we need to go hammer and tong again and rely on vvd to keep out less than we score and becker of course.

Still think we will win it but its going to be tighter than it looked 3 weeks ago.


3.) 07 Feb 2019 13:05:52
Just to add: I think vvd is enjoying being laballed "the best defender in the world right now" and I also think that Alisson is enjoying keeping the most clean sheets and having the best defence in the league.

But going forward we are not progressing, we are regressing. The evolution of the team that was so exciting last season seems to have changed direction completely this season. The games are still exciting because we are in a genuine title race but they are not as exciting as the latter half of last season based on our actual football.

Okay, the new "way" is working but we signed vvd in January, still played gung ho football and won games. If we had signed him in the summer I think we would have been in a genuine title race last year too.

My point is: I still think we can win the league and even champions league by playing that free flowing, attacking football of last season. With vvd, robbo and Alisson making sure we don't concede more than we score.

These 1 nil leads are not doing my heart any good either. I liked having the 6 goal cushion!

The best thing about our team is not vvd and Alisson, although they are tremendous. It is mane, Firmino and salah. These are the weapons that will win us the league imo.


4.) 07 Feb 2019 13:13:16
I'm not slating big V BTW. He's my third favourite player. But our balance is too defensive atm.


5.) 07 Feb 2019 13:11:40
Also, while we have RB issues and are playing CM's there, I think it should be the same guy each game. My choice would be Henderson. He adds height and strength. Intelligence and he can turn on his heels. Not to mention he was trained as an RM/ RW. Same could be said for milner but I think his guille is more important in midfield whereas fabhino can do the job hendo does.


6.) 07 Feb 2019 14:03:46
For those who disagree, why would you say our strikers are nowhere near as potent as last season?


7.) 07 Feb 2019 14:04:30
I'm pretty sure klopp is not telling the boys to go out and get a 1 0 win.


8.) 07 Feb 2019 14:35:04
New attacking scheme's are never as potent the second season as the first. Teams have figured out how to defend it a little better, even though our attack has still been good. We are also missing Ox, he was able to drive forward through midfield and draw out the defenders, or hit a banger from 25 yards. Was hoping Keita would fill that void, but he's still finding his feet.

It's also silly to compare this year to last year, last year everything Salah touched was a goal. Last year the 3 shots he cut inside on his left foot in the box against west ham would've been goals versus saves.


9.) 07 Feb 2019 16:04:25
I think that's a very poor assessment Robbie bro. I'm not sure how you can blame our lack of creativity up top on a centre back. Personally, I think it's due to playing Salah up top and Firmino in midfield. Firmino is at his best when playing the false 9 with freedom to get about and link up with Salah and Mané coming from the wide positions. Also, we have been very poor in midfield lately, Keita has had to come in even though he hasn't quite adapted to the PL yet, and Milner has had to play right back whereas he should be in the midfield.


10.) 07 Feb 2019 16:45:09
I honestly think it’s the tempo more than anything mate. We are pressing less up front, which used to force teams into a mistake allowing us to counter with pace. We are now looking for both fullbacks to provide the width, allowing our forwards to be more narrow. To support the Attack of the fullbacks we now have two holding midfielders who cover the wingback slots. These two midfielders no longer press as much as they did last year, thereby implying we don’t have a gegen press. Oppositions have more time to be get into formation because our attacks are starting from deeper, leading to fewer goals. However, without the gegenpress our own defence is more structured, and we concede fewer as well (and also because we have more talent in defence than last year) .
I don’t think this has anything to do with a conspiracy theory around VVD lol.


11.) 07 Feb 2019 16:46:05
It was a half arsed theory red rum and I think your most likely right. Bobby should be in the middle. He can handle being battered by cbs. And salah is way more effective on that right side. Goal against spurs last season for example.


12.) 07 Feb 2019 17:14:48
It just looks to me although we are trying to keep clean sheets over scoring goals. Last season we took more chances.

And finished 3rd, I know. But had vvd signed in the summer it would have been 2nd, maybe 1st.


13.) 07 Feb 2019 18:12:31
Robbie, just to jog your memory we scored 5 against Arsenal at the end of December. We also scored 4 against Palace 3 games later. We were the first team to score at the Etihad for about 2 months if I recall correctly, maybe longer.
A lot has been made of our last 2 games but the squad has been carrying a virus (which saps energy even when you are no longer ill) and we’ve had injuries to half the back line and midfield.
Let’s take a breath and give Klopp some credit for getting us this far and trust him to get things going again.


14.) 07 Feb 2019 18:14:18
Robbie, this is not the time to start second guessing stuff. The new system for the most part, has worked and has gotten us to where we are right now regardless of what the weak-minded will have you believe. You cannot say we are not progressing after going thru a blip where mind you, we are yet to lose and City had to play one more game than we did just to top on GD. You have to see things from big pic. stand point.

The way we were playing last season, was unsustainable and you will NOTHING playing that way so Klopp had to tweak it and it has worked. Players were on their knees and frankly, I am surprised as to how they were able to play that CL final with the physical damage the team was in due to this system we were playing. I mean, Klopp even explained why he changed it and you can find his interview online. This is not the time to start doing all that hindsight stuff as it has already been litigated and the results are there for all to see. We are in a dog fight with City for the PL and THIS system made that possible. A blip won't change ANY of that.

We are going through a blip and lack of confidence so to call into question the whole system that got us competing is myopic and self-serving, IMO. We just need to re-focus, work on our football and get back to the way we have been playing with confidence. That's all, IMO. Cheers, man.


15.) 08 Feb 2019 16:43:55
I just think we are more defensive team this term, which is dodgy as we are missing our best defenders.
Livsepool were far more attackinh last year and signing vvd made us more stronger last term.

Id like to see us go full out attacking again, with becket, van dijke, robbo and trent, not to mention fabhino conceding less than we score.

Worked last season as we made ucl final and went from 4th to 3rd. i don't like this defensive, measured approach. Its exciting coz we are in a title chase but the footballl is nowhere near as exciting as it was last year.


 

 

 

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24 May 2019 16:24:08
What goes around, comes around. Takes two hands to clap. It's life. Two sides to everything. If he got poo'd on he must have done some pooing himself. 🤷‍♂️.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - that is absolute nonsense. Innocent people are murdered every day for nothing other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They haven't done 'some pooing'. Life is not like that at all. The rich poo on the poor all the time for no reason other than they are poor and can be taken advantage of.}


 

 

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12 May 2019 22:29:44
The average professional football career in the UK is 8 years (according to the PFA) . So this is the timeline to play a sport you love and to make the maximum amount of money, so that life thereafter is less harsh than it has to be. It's no different than any normal Joe (or Jane) who's looking for a 30% raise each time, hopping from job to job. So that's Salah's side. And the club's side is that he's signed a new contract only last year, has maybe 3 or 5 years (I don't know) still left and he's going nowhere because he is vital and crucial for our drive to win titles and cups. Unless a club comes along and makes it worthwhile for us, as Barcelona did in both Suarez's and Coutinho's case. (I'm convinced we would have earned far more in Suarez's case, if not for his last biting incident, and ban, which forced our hand and reduced our bargaining position) .

I agree with "no one is bigger than the club" completely. But I would put it another way. LFC is a profit-seeking business in the sport entertainment industry. So when we see "business-like" moves by either players or team management, it makes no sense to raise an alarm, and ask "where's the loyalty, devotion, decency etc etc etc". It's just business as usual.

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12 May 2019 22:29:44
The average professional football career in the UK is 8 years (according to the PFA) . So this is the timeline to play a sport you love and to make the maximum amount of money, so that life thereafter is less harsh than it has to be. It's no different than any normal Joe (or Jane) who's looking for a 30% raise each time, hopping from job to job. So that's Salah's side. And the club's side is that he's signed a new contract only last year, has maybe 3 or 5 years (I don't know) still left and he's going nowhere because he is vital and crucial for our drive to win titles and cups. Unless a club comes along and makes it worthwhile for us, as Barcelona did in both Suarez's and Coutinho's case. (I'm convinced we would have earned far more in Suarez's case, if not for his last biting incident, and ban, which forced our hand and reduced our bargaining position) .

I agree with "no one is bigger than the club" completely. But I would put it another way. LFC is a profit-seeking business in the sport entertainment industry. So when we see "business-like" moves by either players or team management, it makes no sense to raise an alarm, and ask "where's the loyalty, devotion, decency etc etc etc". It's just business as usual.

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25 Apr 2019 10:05:11
Matip was getting brickbats in the first half of the season because he was clearly playing poorly. His second half has been a clear improvement, and as good as the first year he joined. So it's all relative to player form and performance, as it should be.

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11 Apr 2019 00:40:43
Saw him play for Brazil in the last game, and he was really very good; a game changer the moment he came on. Equally good today, versus Juventus. Right-footed, but can play on both wings, just like Mane.

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22 May 2019 16:19:00
I'd go with bringing Milner on from the bench in the second half.

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21 May 2019 19:38:16
Zed, how can you even think of asking? The obvious shade is Red. 😝

MKS, Chill. Don't let it get under your skin.

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21 May 2019 19:31:59
JK_RED, you obviously haven't been to Cheshire (going by claims here a few days ago) 😂.

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21 May 2019 18:52:59
"He could never play for us. Let's be realistic and focus on the Begovics, Popes and Pickfords of this World". That was what was being said last summer about Alisson. And guess where he's playing now? "Oh he'll join ManC or Chelsea, they'll pay the wages he probably wants, we could never afford him". And that was what was said here about VVD, and we know what happened after that.

We paid a World record price for each of those players, at the time. I have no idea if we can afford Mbappe or not (i have no idea whatsoever of the financial picture of the club) . All I know is that we are not "bottom-of the barrel-scrapers" that some make us out to be.

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21 May 2019 16:48:02
Sounds like shades of Rickie Lambert to me. We've gone past those days.

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