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16 Mar 2018 13:33:59
Any chance that the derby will be postponed? Think its pretty unfair that we get 2 days rest and they get 3.

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16 Mar 2018 13:43:35
Apparently it's being moved to 1230 kick off on the sat now.

16 Mar 2018 14:01:52
That's just making up excuses in advance. Maybe they want the Manchester derby moved to Sunday so they get more rest in between the first leg and the biggest game of their league season; the one where they can lift the title at the Etihad by beating the Red half of Manchester.

We between both legs, each team has 7 days rest and only 1 game in between. You can't exactly use travel issues as an excuse because although we have 3 games in 8 days, two of them are in Liverpool and the other is in Manchester.

Hopefully they win the league on the Saturday, party all weekend and turn up on the 10th for the second leg half cut.

The other way of looking at it is they have 3 hard games in 8 days, and we are playing a team still not safe from relegation.

Let's not make excuses lads. It's 270 minutes of football in 8 days for both teams and Everton Don't exactly make us work hard when they're letting us have 85% possession.

16 Mar 2018 14:28:44
We get an extra before Everton, they get one after the Manc derby.

Both teams have a derby so both have difficult fixtures in between the CL legs, City will be desperate to beat United, especially if they can win the title.

16 Mar 2018 15:23:44
MK - I don't think Pep cares where he wins the title. Maybe he would prefer v Man U to win the title but he doesn't really care. I think he will rest his main players before the second leg. The Champions league is most important to Pep now. These games are some of City's most important games ever.

I think we will have to rest players v Everton as well. Surely that is what having a squad is all about. If Ings, Lallana, etc aren't good enough to play v Everton there is no point them being at the club.

16 Mar 2018 18:05:36
Case by case basis with rotation and tiredness for us at worst.
We can't really rest players unless they're drained.

They're professional athletes who are fit individuals so they can easily play 3 high octane matches in 8 days with lots of rests in between, don't forget they have highly trained medical staff, nutritionists and fitness coaches guiding them, plus there has been plenty of deserved rest during the season already, so no need to worry much about resting players now near the end of the season, they will just taper back the training sessions to suit.

Having worked with a couple of pro athletes (boxers) a few years back myself I can almost 100% guarantee the players won't want to be rested for any of these games unless hurt or literally exhausted.

16 Mar 2018 21:31:50
I'm sorry, are we getting our excuses in early here? Play who you play, when you play them and get on with it.

16 Mar 2018 21:24:30
I agree they won't want to be rested and the other points you mentioned, but Henderson can't play 3 games and neither can firmino. 2 of our most important players.

17 Mar 2018 13:08:06
They can, I'm not very fit myself at the moment and could do it, these are pro athletes so no excuses.

16 Mar 2018 13:17:54
The only team I did not want over two legs was City. We had a good chance of taking them in a one off game but I think over two legs it will be very hard. Especially with the first leg at home, always nice to be at home second leg knowing exactly what you need to do.

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16 Mar 2018 14:34:02
I think they'll hammer us at the Etihad, but that we'll hammer them at Anfield and progress on away goals.

It's a 50/ 50 tie between two great sides. Let's just enjoy it. I reckon this could be the highest scoring CL tie in history. 9-9 on aggregate?

16 Mar 2018 14:46:49
Two great sides. With five European cups between them 😉.

16 Mar 2018 16:08:49
If we get past City I can see us winning it. I really believe that, I would just rather take City in a one off game. We have to play four perfect half's. We need to go to City with at least a two goal lead and no away goals against. I can't wait and agree with you MK it could end up a Rugby score.

16 Mar 2018 16:45:05
Destined to be 1-0 on aggregate win for someone.

16 Mar 2018 18:08:24
Both legs to end nil nil without a single shot on target, oh wait it's the other Manchester team not Maureen's one. 7-5 to us then :)

16 Mar 2018 13:10:30
This time last week we were saying we would steamroll Utd and be 2nd in the league. Fast forward a week and we are now saying bring on City and talking of making the final because we beat them in 1 game at Anfield already this season and the fixture at the Etithad either didn't happen or doesn't count. I love my club but there's also such a thing as blind faith. I cannot wait for the City games but for me they are the best team in the country (21 points ahead proves that) and we will need to replicate our performance at Anfield against them twice if we are to progress. However for me we have a far more important game which is the next one against Watford. Top 4 is the priority now until the CL games come around.

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16 Mar 2018 13:41:18
Obviously you were blind when we got a red card after 27 minutes?

16 Mar 2018 14:43:27
Jayden you are taking it all too seriously. It is a bit of fun. Once it is closer to the time, people will make more realistic predictions.

Just take this opportunity to revel in excitement instead of trying to put a downer on things. We've nothing to lose.

City are the better team and therefore the favourites. If we get smashed people will just say "well City are the best team in Europe". If we do the smashing though; "holy hell! Liverpool just knocked Man City out

I think we'll just get through, but there is also every chance that it could be a cricket score in favour of either side.

16 Mar 2018 14:56:52
Nostradamus any chance of elaborating please? Interested to hear your thoughts.

16 Mar 2018 15:11:07
Mk I'm not sure if I'd worded my post wrong mate or you have Miss read. Didn't mean it to be overly serious or a downer. Just giving my honest opinion. I think it's a terrific draw. It's going to be 2 games of top class football. What is there to complain about. All I'm saying is reading some fans posts (not necessarily all on here) but it looks like fans are booking tickets for the final already as only reason City beat us was because Mane was Sent off and we beat them easily at Anfield. I just disagree with both statements.

16 Mar 2018 13:06:10
Reading social media the majority of Manchester City think it's a foregone conclusion. Hopefully we can silence them. Here's too two good games.

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16 Mar 2018 14:04:09
To be fair to them, the majority of Man City fans on social media only started supporting in 2010. They don't understand what were capable on midweek under the biggest spotlight in club football.

16 Mar 2018 16:46:10
Let them say that I’m sure they thought they would beat Wigan in the cup too.

16 Mar 2018 12:38:24
Not too bothered about drawing City, there are no easy games at this stage and we are more than capable of beating them over 2 legs. We've been their bogey team over the past few years.

However, the thing that annoys me the most is that we will have just 48h of rest between the Merseyside Derby at Goodison and the 2nd leg at the Etihad. City will have 3 days of rest between the Manchester Derby and the 2nd leg (both at home) .

Do we rotate/ rest players against Everton or play our first XI for both games and risk injuries/ fatigue? We can't afford to drop points in the race for Top 4 but the 2nd leg of Champions League quarterfinal should always be the priority.

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16 Mar 2018 13:13:44
At this stage, you get who you get and go out there and play your hearts out, end of. If you wanna be the best, you got to beat the best. No ifs or buts about it. This is why Klopp came here and why VVD and Keita came here and why other players will wanna come here.

We are back in the big leagues now and this is not the time to shrink. This is the time to rise up, be brave and courageous and thank heavens, we have a manager who is proven in Europe in kicking ass and taking names. We go out there, leave it all out on the pitch wit NO REGRETS. Exciting times, guys and gals. Let's Go!

16 Mar 2018 13:57:57
We'll smash them first leg anyway.

16 Mar 2018 14:00:15
Derby been moved to the Saturday now . not the draw I wanted but it's cup football now . We know we can beat them but we're well aware they can beat us too, hope we can do it but I'm nowhere near confident about it 🤞.

16 Mar 2018 12:27:52
Would have been nice to play a team from the continent, ah well. Should be cracking tie. Who scores most away goals wins!?

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16 Mar 2018 12:24:14
I have a question for ed02 about young gk from Hajduk Split Karlo Letica. he became first choice couple of months ago and though only 19 had 2 penalty saves and single handly won it for Hajduk against Dinamo Zagreb in the derby making 4 world class saves. he even scored a goal i 95th minute in last match with his head and winnig the match for Split club. marca wrote last week that Real Madrid want him and he doesn't even have pro contract. Lad is so down to earth and you can see with his every action he is so strong in his mind and he is 2.03 m tall and very good with his feet. his agent said there is host of europen giants in talks but they would like him to be first choice. I was wondering is Liverpool one of the clubs involved bcos i think deal can be struck at decent price to let him be in Split for 2 more years and get one of best young gk in the world?

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Liverpool and these questions belong on the European pages.}

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16 Mar 2018 12:33:30
The cynic in me says it seems strange Barca, Real, Bayern and city were all kept apart . anyway should be a cracking couple of games could end up 6-5 over the two legs either way.

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16 Mar 2018 13:14:49
Or a 6-6 win on the away goals rule, would be nice, Squizza.

16 Mar 2018 12:31:52
I was initially gutted about the draw however my friend pointed to me the seasons when we met Chelsea in the semi's and we were the underdogs. We went out there and did the business against all the odds 2 times! We want to beat the beat team in Europe? We have them in the quarters in my opinion. If we do this surely we are looking at the final? Just remember we haven't managed to beat City in a final yet so I wouldn't want them there!

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16 Mar 2018 13:20:38
Gutted about what, OP? Since 2009 and the money arrived at City, we are the team in the top 6 they can't beat consistently. We have the best record against them over that span and that is NO coincidence. They have only beaten us 6 (all at the Etihad) times in all comps with us winning there several times and them not being able to buy a win at Anfield. Also, Klopp has one loss in 7 in all comps. vs City including the thumping they got at Etihad 4-1 since he arrived.

Trust me, they are scared of us cos history does not favor them vs us. We have only played one final vs them and they won on penalties, which obviously proves nothing, IMO. Klopp, the players and the fans will be up for it cos really, we have had their number overall while they can't even buy a win at Anfield. There is nothing to fear BUT fear itself, man.

16 Mar 2018 12:20:21
Why are people so scared of City for?

We've already beaten them once and they only beat us because the ref bottled sending off Otamendi after he nailed Salah and Mane in the first 20, and then sent off Mane for an offence that has never before or after been a red card.

They've already lost this season to Shaktar, Basel, Wigan and of course, us. They struggled against Wolves, Bristol City, Everton and Crystal Palace.

This isn't a team who have swatted everyone aside like flies. They can't handle being pressured and they Don't like it when teams run at them. Every single player in their back 4 and keeper has a mistake in them, and their defensive midfielder is a red card liability.

Yes, they are favourites. De Bruyne and Silva are the best midfield double act I've seen since Iniesta and Xavi were in their prime at Barcelona. But Salah and Firmino are the best strike partnership I've ever seen in my lifetime. So we have every chance of pulling it off!

I hope Pep and his lads do take their foot off the gas in the league and start resting players. It is very hard to just turn it back on when you need to and if they get complacent at all, we have the ability to make them look ridiculous over two legs. I fully get that they have the ability to do that to us though. It's a 50/ 50 shot at the end of the day between two very good sides. I read the other day that since the defeat against Spurs at Wembley, City have taken 53 points and We've taken 47. So over the last 20 or so games, We're not as far off them as everyone thinks.

You lads have got to believe! We have European pedigree and they just Don't. It is in our blood to succeed in this tournament. It will mean so much to the likes of Silva, Kompany and Aguero and Man City in general, because it is all they are missing in their cabinets at home. Hopefully that desperation sees them come unstuck! BELIEVE!

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16 Mar 2018 12:28:59
Couldnt agree more Mk! Awesome post. We are Liverpool football club, we can beat anyone. We are 5 times European champions they should be afraid of us! Be agressive and run like mad and we will have our chances. think this will be epic 2 matches just like the 2 legs against chelsea and arsenal in the past! And whole world will be our fans in this one :)

16 Mar 2018 12:39:09
MK I am with you on this one. We tend to perform at our best when we are the underdogs! Bring it on! From an English perspective we will have a team in the semi's not only that it will be one of the best (most entertaining) 2 teams in the land right now. One of us should win it! Let's hope it is us!

16 Mar 2018 12:45:22
I'm sorry but I stopped reading that MK after the outrageous sentence they only beat us because the ref bottled sending off a player. Considering we are the self proclaimed best fans in the world we don't half hide behind excuses when we lose. City hammered us on the day and then at home we outplayed them and scored some world class goals. Nothing more nothing less. We will be saying we haven't won a premier league title next because the refs have a vendetta against us.

16 Mar 2018 13:02:51
Agreed MK, very well said. People are talking like we're already out of the CL, that is nonsense! If I was a City fan right now I think I'd be more worried then what I am as a Liverpool fan. I think we can do it. Hard game, yes, impossible? no. We've done it before we can do it again, we'll be well up for this and I can't wait for iy. No matter what the outcome may be, we've done incredibly well to get to this stage.

16 Mar 2018 13:26:33
Spot on, MK. Why should we be scared vs a team who have only managed 6 measly wins vs LFC in all comps (all at the Etihad) since the oil cash arrived in 2009? Vs the top 6, LFC has the best record against City and they have not won a game at Anfield since 2003 and that is having spent over 1bn (yeah, billion with a B) on players. Under Klopp. we have 1 loss in 7 games vs City. Klopp has scored get this 4 goals twice and 3 goals once vs City. No other manager has that record so again, why should I be afraid of a team that we actually "own"?

Trust me, it is them that are scared of us cos they know what we can do to them. We are the ONLY reason they will NOT be undefeated this season and we are the team that put 4 past them this season and shut them down to having one shot on target in 84 minutes. Yeah, WE DID THAT! "There is nothing to fear but fear itself" - Roosveldt.

16 Mar 2018 13:29:23
Never been a red card? Take them red tinted glasses off mate he nearly took the blokes head off.

16 Mar 2018 14:30:11
Maybe that was badly worded Jayden. I should have said "they only beat us so comfortably because of the red card decisions". If Otamendi had been correctly sent off and Mane had received a yellow card or a warning like every other high boot challenge this season has been punished with, then maybe they might still have won. It wouldn't have ended 5-0 though!

JordDodz. Valencia went in deliberately high and studs up on Mane less than a week ago. Nothing. Zlatan had a goal disallowed last season for a high studs up challenge on the keeper. Nothing. Otamendi kicked Kane in the head. Nothing. Ritchie nearly took someones head off. Yellow card. Diaby technically killed John Terry for nearly 10 minutes by volleying his face! Where were their red cards? Remember De Jong on Alonso in the international game? Studs up to the chest. Nothing.

Was it a red card? I think it should be but based on recent times, it was the wrong decision. All I want is consistency.

16 Mar 2018 15:00:16
I lied first time round Mk I did actually read the rest of your comment but had to word it to make my point. Everything you say about decisions since are correct and no one has been sent off since. I think the damage Mane caused is what swayed it and if it was on our keeper we would have cried blue murder. However I am certainly looking forward to two exciting games against city. And this is going to be 2 great games of football for the neutral.

16 Mar 2018 15:52:30
I think you are correct Jayden that the ref was swayed by the damage caused, but it is a weak decision to see blood and panic. If punishments were proportional to the injury caused, Gary Cahill should be banned for life for ending Mason's career! Rondon would be banned for a year for destroying McCarthy's leg. You have to judge the incident and not the injury. Mane made a legitimate attempt to go for the ball and although it was potentially dangerous, so is every single tackle/ challenge. Hell, Rondon broke a leg taking a shot!

Whether it was the right decision or not isn't really relevant. My point is that based on other decisions, Mane was unlucky and the ref only showed red because of the injury and not because he thought it was a red card offence.

Like you, I'm really looking forward to this. I can't wait!

16 Mar 2018 16:48:46
Agree totally Mk and Mane's red card could have gone either way. City hammered us that day with 5 very good goals. If mane was on the pitch then it's highly likely we could have scored a few. But for me he woundnt have stopped our midfield being dominated like it did or Mignolet and our defence conceding 5 like they did. After all 2-3 weeks later Spurs did the same to us with 11 v 11.

16 Mar 2018 17:12:12
I wouldn’t say they hammered us we were the better team by far before Mane’s red card.

16 Mar 2018 17:49:39
5-0 is hammered sorry. And at 0-0 how were we the better team by far.

17 Mar 2018 12:43:26
City are a level above us, it's reality. I'd have preferred Barcelona or Madrid.
City are the best side side in Europe right now. Barcelona are a regressing side in a poor overall league with their forwards carrying them as is Madrid.
We'll see how it pans out. They could be two great matches but we also could get obliterated. We definitely need Henderson to be fit. Forget about competing in midfield with can and Milner.


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