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23 Mar 2019 07:07:23
Morning eds
Is there a profile on Jadon Sancho?

{Ed001's Note - he hasn't played enough to get one mate. Most of his games are just sub appearances. He needs more full games.}

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23 Mar 2019 09:23:26
Not been massively impressed with him when I've seen him play to be honest.

His decision making is dreadful. He tries to skin the player in front of him every time when better options would've been a pass or an early cross. He loses possession 9 times out of 10 or ends up poking it back to the midfield after he's crowded out.

He is still only 18 though so he has time to develop. Frankly though, he's not good enough to start regularly at the highest level.

His market value will far exceed his actual worth right now. I see lots of people on other forums pining for him when we've got "potential" in our own ranks. Most notably Brewster who made Sancho and Hudson-Odoi look like his back up cast for the England youth sides.

23 Mar 2019 10:10:39
Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Rashford, Rice, what a crop of young talent England have.
Even I enjoyed watching them last night.
Liverpool old boy Sterling was very good too, told you he was a miss to our set-up.
I really hope that Brewster, particularly after his injury, gets to their level.

23 Mar 2019 10:24:29
I must admit I've never seen him play, well I have for about 15 minutes or so. So I can't judge but a friend of mine has seen him play plenty and has said exactly what you're saying MK. He's very young and needs to learn a hell of a lot by the sounds of things, if he is a good lad and concentrates on his football over his lifestyle then who knows, maybe there's a star in there somewhere, the next few years will be interesting for him.

23 Mar 2019 10:44:20
he is young and needs to learn a hell of a lot. stunning analysis for a kid. and given he is already performing at decent level in a european league and now as an international, I think English fans can get a little excited.

23 Mar 2019 10:51:23
I reply to MK Scouser, usually mate we agree on stuff but this for is not fair.
The kid is 18 years of age took a very brave decision to leave everything he knows family wise footabll wise and go to a foreign country with a new language and commit to buckling down and hopefully getting a chance in the squad
Well this season he has easily been the biggest break through star in Germany, so much so that he has the highest amount of assists in Europe only matched by the great Messi himself
This has led to him being called up by his country which has to be applauded.
if im not wrong did he not make a goal for sterling on the highest level last night?
I think your assessment need to be looked at as he is 18 years of age and needs to be judged as an 18 year old
is he playing any worse then Salah is right now who is making the worng choices a lot of the time in games recently and he is a season vet compared to Sancho
for me this kid is better then wilson and will go further in football then Wilson will but I bet you will not agree
If Sancho was in our Squad coming off the bench no one would be complaining
Just can't agree when I hear people slating a youngster like Sancho who showed wisdom and guts to leave man city and go abroad
how many of us on here could of done that and achieved what he has so far at 18?

23 Mar 2019 11:10:57
Sounds like your mate sees what I see then Salah; potential.

Its easy to hype him up off the back of some good cameo appearances against tired legs playing for a very attacking Dortmund team, but when he starts games he still struggles to stay in games and fades into the background. He's got magic in his feet and can produce spectacular moments, but his desire to show off or to be the star actually has an adverse affect on his game. He tries too hard I suppose, which is better than not trying at all! Ed001 is bang on though, we won't know how good he can be until he starts affecting games in which he starts and gets more time on the pitch.

I recently read an article that placed him at number 1 in the top 50 young players in world football. Hoever was 23rd and Brewster was 31st. The same article didn't even have Mbappe in the top 50 so that shows you how misguided media hype is 🤦‍♂️

If he stays grounded and improves his all around game, Sancho will be a great player for sure. He's just a little bit over rated/ hyped right now though and I am worried he's being given everything too soon because he seems to act (from an outsiders perspective) like he believes he is as good as the media say. He's certainly not worth the £100m people say he is worth, put it that way! Let's see how he reacts to his first set back; a bad season, an injury set back, media pressure etc. Then we'll see how much he wants it.

23 Mar 2019 11:22:29
It was the top 50 teenagers MK, Mbappe is 20 now lol. And agree on Sancho, got a long way to go to fulfill his potential, drifts in and out of games quite a bit.

23 Mar 2019 11:26:46
MK Scouser are you aware that Sancho has the most appearances this season in the whole Dortmund Squad and is the third highest goal scorer in the whole squad, and has the most assist in the whole squad not to mention in the whole of Europe
you comments are not making sense when this figures are mentioned mate sorry.

23 Mar 2019 11:31:42
Johncrow, you are putting words in my mouth mate. I've not said he is a bad player anywhere. Nor have I denied his ability. Or his bravery. I can only give my honest opinion and in my opinion he is still very raw and needs to be given time before we all decide how his future will go.

2 seasons ago it was Pulisic everyone raved about in Dortmund, getting loads of goals and assists off the bench and where is he now? He has struggled to transition from prospect under no pressure to star performer. I think Chelsea may regret spending so much money on him but maybe he will bounce back from his poor season?

History is littered with examples. Januzaj, Bojan, Tello etc. It's easy to shine in a great team when nothing is expected of you and you play against tired legs with explosive pace.

Wilson is different to Sancho in that he has already over come his set backs and answered questions of his ability. After being capped at 16 years old and dubbed to Welsh Messi he stopped putting in 100% to improve and he fell off the pace completely. He then had a few injuries and it's taken 5 years for him to put himself back into contention for a long term future at Liverpool. It's still only contention though.

If anything, you bringing up Wilson just backs up my point that it is too early to call him a future star. Whilst I'm on the subject of Wilson, yes I do think he is currently better than Sancho because he can start games week in week out and improve those around him and not fade in and out of games. He's also 3 years older though and Sancho undeniably has more raw ability.

So I do agree that Sancho has the talent to go further in football than Wilson. That was just you putting words in my mouth. Jordan Ibe had the raw ability to go further than Sterling though, but he couldn't make the transition from prospect to star either.

Raw ability is just that until you harness it into consistency. If Sancho has a bad season next year the same people comparing him (even loosely) to Messi and Salah like you just have, will throw him on the scrapheap. In reality how he reacts to that adversity will be the measure of him as a character and as a player. For me, we'll see how good Sancho truly is in a couple of years and right now you should just enjoy his youthful exuberance and not put too much pressure on the lad to be something special. Potential is not guaranteed.

23 Mar 2019 11:47:05
That explains that to be fair then Scholes18! Glad you understand my point though. I'm not sure what John is reading to be honest because it's not my posts 😂.

23 Mar 2019 11:49:01
I don't think there has been any slating at all (on this thread) . Just the point being made that it is still too soon for him to be anointed with the keys to the kingdom. Another website has named him the at the top of the best 50 players of the next generation and written about his (supposed) desire to win the Ballon d'Or. That's a crazy amount of pressure to place on a young kid, and it usually does not turn out well. These kids are being given keys to Ferraris before knowing how to load a washing machine and doing the laundry. The probabilities all say that very few come even close to the superhuman levels they are projected to achieve.

23 Mar 2019 11:51:55
I put no words in yuor mouth mate lol just simply stating facts
you initial comments where that
"His decision making is dreadful. He tries to skin the player in front of him every time when better options would've been a pass or an early cross. He loses possession 9 times out of 10 or ends up poking it back to the midfield after he's crowded out".
does that stats I quoted to your reflect your statement
you have mentioned puslic now ibe and who so ever else
We are talking only about Sancho and wilson and no one else
to someone who had never heard of sancho before yuo made him sound like our ex player Mark Gonzales all pace no common sense and passes back when he has players around him
your wrong MK and no amount of bringing in players will help that
the kid has done fantastically well so far in his career
Pulsic plays for USA no pressure to get into that squad
Wilson palys for Wales again no pressure to get into that sqaud
ibe never played for england so the comparsion are not vaild
at this age for Sancho to be a top guy for a top european team and be starting for his national team after leaving man city youth team at the start of the season is amazing imo.

23 Mar 2019 12:17:44
Johncrow, stats are not relevant to the full 90 minutes performance. You can overplay 9 times out of 10 as I said, and then score or create a goal on the 1 occasion it comes off for you. Then the stats say you played well but maybe the other 9 occassions when there was a better option, you could've had a more positive overall affect on the team by making the right decision. Sancho' s best impact on the game yesterday was when he made a run in behind off the ball. Not the 10 times he ran at somebody with the ball and then gave away possession. One day he will learn that he is better off passing and then looking for a return pass if the option is available to him.

You are quoting stats and facts to me but there seems to be very little subjectivity to your argument, and no analysis. I'm not going to deny he's statistically had a good season and that he's great for his age.

Do you remember the Scouse Cafu, Jon Flanagan? His first season he was arguably the best young defender in Europe and was playing better than a lot of senior players in his position. People thought he'd be the future of the club and a potential captain. Then he got injured badly and struggled to make a come back. Then there was his controversy away from the game and now here we are 4 years later and the Scouse Cafu, was actually just the Scouse Danny Simpson.

Sancho has great stats, and once again, I'm not saying he isn't a great talent. I'm just saying I've not been as impressed by him as others. He is talked about as if he is the complete article already, but in my opinion he is not. He has magical moments rather than great performances for 90 minutes.

I'm only giving you examples because they are relevant to how football fans jump the gun all the time and overhype younger players. I know, because I've been guilty of it myself in the past and I've learned from my own mistakes. You might remember how certain I was that Brad Smith would be a great player? Making his debut for Australia and Liverpool and looking every bit a future star, blowing away youth football etc. How wrong was I then? He had a set back and didn't react in the right way.

You don't have the authority to tell me I am wrong because football is subjective, especially when talking about overall performance or young player potential. You can disagree by all means, but in my opinion he is still raw. There is no right or wrong when discussing a players ability and potential.

I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong either. You are well entitled to your opinion that Sancho is the best creative player in Europe already and better than Salah right now. I don't have to agree but football cannot be quantified by statistics.

I'll have to leave it at that because there is nothing else I can add if you have made your mind up that a subjective debate has a right and wrong side.

23 Mar 2019 12:28:55
Spot on ArAy1969. Everyone knows about his talents and positive sides to his game. All I was doing was pointing out his flaws (that people are ignoring) to try and bring a bit of sensibility to the ongoing debate around him lately. I can almost guarantee his coaches aren't ignoring those flaws, and if they are they are doing him a dis-service because his potential is huge if he gets the right advice and support to improve him as a man and as a player.

23 Mar 2019 13:46:21
Very interesting thread. Nice one MK and John.

23 Mar 2019 13:48:26
Absolutely superb young player, think he will easily be in the top 5 players in the world by the time he is 21.he's that good. i would love us to go out and get him, and while people will say it's too much for someone that won't play. he would play, he would get a lot of game time for ANY premier league team over the season.

23 Mar 2019 14:34:01
I cannot believe Dortmund and now England pick a player who gives the ball away 9 times out of 10 every game. With those stats I might lace my boots back up and give professional football another crack. I only give it away 7 to 8 times out of 10 normally.

23 Mar 2019 14:48:37
Anybody who’s isn’t impressed with Jadon Sancho isn’t watching him objectively. For him to be playing the way he is at the highest level at the age of 18 is exceptional.

23 Mar 2019 15:03:25
JK23, I can only assume you are not English. "9 times out of 10" is a cliché British phrase. It doesn't literally mean 90% of the time he loses possession. It just means "a lot" basically. A bit like how "unstoppable" usually just means really good. Obviously every player can be stopped!

23 Mar 2019 15:13:45
MK Scouser mate, I reckon you need to watch more of Sancho. I watch dortmund whenever I can (fun team) and the lads incredible, not sure how applicable half your criticisms are. Yes stats aren't the full story but if you regularly watched the lad you'd know his were reflective of his overall game, easily the best teenager in world football. None of the examples of overhyped players you gave were performing like Sancho in a top league.

The comparison to Wilson is also a strange one, not sure how you can compare an 18 year old smashing it at the highest level to a 22 year old in the championship. I'm a massive Wilson fan and hope he plays a part next year but they're not in the same league and never have been.

23 Mar 2019 15:40:05
Mk I am born and bread British mate and my job has allowed me to travel the world and I believe 9 out of 10 is 90% in every country I have been too. Anyway mate I read further down you said sarcasm is lost on people and clearly mine was lost here. No way do I lose the the ball 7-8 times out of 10 I am literally like the modern day Alonso.

23 Mar 2019 16:29:57
Yeah it went over my head JK23. My bad 😂

I got the exact reaction I expected overall to be honest though. Not jumping on the hype train and maintaining a degree of scelticism is always controversial!

Have a good day lads.

23 Mar 2019 17:43:13
Put it this way when he decides he wants to return to England the whole top 6 in Europe's best league will be beating Dortmunds door down trying to get him.

23 Mar 2019 20:21:00
Hardly a case of jumping on a hype train, lad's been fantastic all season and in youth leagues. Less scelticism more empty criticism, but to each their own. At the end of the day it is a game.

23 Mar 2019 21:58:28
Empty criticism would be baseless abuse with no explanation or constructive points. Patronisation is not going to change my mind is it.

23 Mar 2019 23:59:32
I don’t think there is a ‘hype train’ going on with Sancho, I think most people just agree that he is one of the best teenagers in the world right now. Of course he isn’t worth £100 million, no 18 year old is, Mbappe wasn’t worth £160 million when PSG bought him a couple of years ago.

At that age though you are also paying for potential and Sancho has bags of it, if he keeps improving over the next 2-3 years £100 million will look like a bargain. The truth is that no 18 year old is playing close to his level right now, most of them are still playing reserve team football or sitting on the bench.

24 Mar 2019 06:26:07
Good Morning all brilliant discussion yesterday with a lot of back tracking by MK Scouser lol but this is what this site is for good open discussion about all things football
MK thank you for debating with me sir and I hope no hard feelings and more then likley your next point (as I usually do ) I will 100 percent agree with
Have a good day mate and to all who took part yesterday.

24 Mar 2019 08:39:02
Whatever you want to call it Smeg, there is a massive movement bigging him up.

Transfermarkt for example, already have him ranked as the 23rd most valuable player on the planet at £72,000,000, 1st in the Bundesliga, and 4th amongst English footballers.

He probably is one of the best 18 year olds on current form. I haven't questioned that. I just said I wasn't "massively" impressed. When I heard people talking about him I went looking expecting to see an 18 year old at the level of Messi, Owen, Fowler etc. That's not to say I didn't watch him and think he was fantastic for his age. I just wasn't as massively impressed as others.

I've seen it all before at Dortmund in terms of teenagers thriving but then fading rapidly or flopping after a big move put a bit of pressure on them. Gotze, Dembele, Pulisic etc. So I'm just wary of saying Sancho is going to be in the "top 5" players in the world off the back of 6 months. That's all.

It was a good debate John though I disagree there was any backtracking. I think you just misinterpreted my first post. I guess it does read a little negatively if you skim it quickly. Agree to disagree, and no hard feelings.

24 Mar 2019 08:40:19
I think Johncrow and MK agree 9 times out of 10, or maybe 7-8 times 😄.

Review Of The Day 23rd March 2019

23 Mar 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 23rd March 2019

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23 Mar 2019 08:18:10
Morning eds
Am just amazed at the absolute garbage that PSG come out with and as for Neymar well he just fit the club perfectly!

{Ed001's Note - PSG are a joke mate.}

23 Mar 2019 08:23:37
Good morning and a good read as usual Ed. I wish neymar would shut his mouth and just play proper football. The lad hasn't a clue and will blame Rabiot for everything like the club has done.

23 Mar 2019 09:04:33
Great read as always Ed001. What do you think will happen with the case against Ronaldo? Will it be because he is so rich and powerful he will just avoid it till it goes away? Seems to be working so far.

{Ed001's Note - well he already made one large payment to her and it has not stopped the case, so hard to say. Usually you would think so, but me too has changed things a little so hopefully the truth will out and the end result will be according to that, whatever that is.}

23 Mar 2019 09:49:41
Thank you very much Ed, have a good Saturday mate.

{Ed001's Note - you too mate.}

23 Mar 2019 09:54:24
I hope so too but the world isn't a fair place. Hopefully some good can come from the girl raising awareness.

{Ed001's Note - hopefully.}

24 Mar 2019 10:39:57
For the first time in my life I almost cheered on an unnameable team in a certain champions league fixture just to see how that Brazilian twit would respond. He didn’t disappoint did he?

Surely he has advisors who tell him what an absolute tool he makes of himself every time he opens his mouth or rolls around on the floor as if shot although everyone watching can see he has barely been touched?

I see soldiers who have had limbs (and worse) blown off who shrug their shoulders, accept it as a career hazard and get on with it, accepting they will spend the rest of their lives living on a tiny percentage of what he gets.

He needs to have a long hard look in the mirror at himself, not that I think He has the ability to consider anything but self aggrandisement.

Utter, embarrassing disgrace. Makes Rivaldo look principled.

YNWAed.

22 Mar 2019 19:08:28
Hi Ed002 and Ed001
I know that this may be too much, but could you write off all the names that Liverpool has on target?

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean. I get my info from the Fat Kit from Bolton, as I understand it, Ed001 just Google’s Liverpool Red Alert for his news.}

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22 Mar 2019 20:32:21
The eds are just language regulators. If you want the inside track search for "firminosteeth".

22 Mar 2019 20:58:49
Lol love it Mk.

23 Mar 2019 08:08:38
I like how all 5 of Firminosteeths accounts have downvoted you MK :)

23 Mar 2019 09:38:24
Taurus, either that or sarcasm is lost on 50% of people on the site 😂.

23 Mar 2019 14:35:56
Perhaps some posters are wondering why, on a public forum designed to share football rumours, someone is copping flak for sharing a football rumour?

{Ed001's Note - because he was lying to pretend he had sources, rather than just saying he had read on social media.}

23 Mar 2019 15:08:04
Seano I am well up for a rumour. I love a good "my mates taxi driver rumour". But I have to agree with Ed001 on this one 😉.

24 Mar 2019 05:33:58
Ah I see, I didn't know he was literally just fabricating everything he said as 'from sources' I thought he'd maybe heard things on the grapevine and was passing them on. I stand corrected.

Review Of The Day 22nd March 2019

22 Mar 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd March 2019

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22 Mar 2019 08:07:41
Morning Ed.

I find it a real shame Giroud is struggling to get game time at Chelsea because imo he should be on before Morata and Higuain. I really rate the lad.

Thanks mate I hope you have a top Friday!

{Ed002's Note - He gets on before Morata. In fact he gets on before all of the Athletico Madrid players.}

22 Mar 2019 08:17:11
Hahaha yes Ed2, bad wording from me there!

22 Mar 2019 08:36:22
I agree Salah, he shouldn’t be talking about going down a level to get game time. If he’s not getting enough at Chelsea then I’m sure plenty of the other mid table PL clubs would be more than happy to make him their first choice striker.

22 Mar 2019 09:15:34
I’m a big Giroud fan as well. Would love him at Liverpool because of his link up play and the fact he knows where the goal is and how to get a run on a defender, especially at the front post. Not sure that we’d be able to give him the game time he wants either though. I thought he was made for Chelsea and a more controlling style of play under Sarri, but what do I know?

22 Mar 2019 09:15:46
Cheers by the way ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. And it is a shame about Giroud, he is a very good striker, just lacks pace.}

22 Mar 2019 10:09:08
Not a fan. Decent player but I just don't like him. Never trust a man who's chin is bigger than his face. Disliked Jimmy Hill too.

Chelsea played better with giroud and hazard as the 2 forwards. Higuian is the better player than olivier, he just needs to adapt to the Premier league. Can see giroud leaving the prem.

Despite my earlier comment, I wouldn't mind him as an option from the bench. With robbo, trent, hendo and milner whipping in crosses when we need a goal.

22 Mar 2019 10:17:09
I really thought Tom huddlestone was going to be a big player. I remember playing an old fifa, always used to sign him. He was like a 3rd rate Gerrard. Could tackle, strong in the air, could pass and could shoot. Is he old now? What went wrong with his career?

{Ed001's Note - really? He was crap, like a knock-off Jan Molby with a millionth of the ability.}

22 Mar 2019 10:28:52
A millionth of the ability Ed? You must be feeling a generous today mate lol :) .

{Ed001's Note - it is a good day mate, so yes, I probably did over-exaggerate Huddlestone's level.}

22 Mar 2019 10:29:11
Must have been an early fifa when he still showed promise. Played for England didn't he?

22 Mar 2019 10:35:00
Lol glad it's a good day so far for you mate, take care.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, hope yours goes well too, take care.}

22 Mar 2019 11:25:58
I would rate Giroud as a backup striker - doesn’t suit our style of play perfectly but he’s a better link player and finisher than given credit for and quite capable of leading the line with pacy wingers outside him.

He’d also be perfect for when we need something different in the last 20mins against a packed defence, and Trent and Robbo need someone to aim at.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no interest in Giroud, and Chelsea has been approached by another two sides already.}

22 Mar 2019 11:32:22
It is a good day Ed. I'm glad to hear you are doing well.

{Ed001's Note - I am glad you are good too mate.}

22 Mar 2019 13:36:11
Good form by Huddersfield. Was reading the story this morning. Nice to see prem teams can still take the time out.

22 Mar 2019 12:35:42
Fair enough Ed - was just a comment on him as a player . Would be shocked if we went there though.

21 Mar 2019 20:48:38
What about steve staunton did we not get him on a free eds?

{Ed001's Note - second time around.}

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21 Mar 2019 22:14:35
Apparently he cost us £20k first time around. That's a lot for an Irish League player in 1986. I thought it'd have been 50p and a bag of footballs.

21 Mar 2019 12:38:38
Top 3 liverpool free transfers

1. James Milner
2. Marcus Babbel
3. Gary Mac.

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21 Mar 2019 13:20:20
Gary Mac number 1 milly number 2.

21 Mar 2019 13:30:34
Milner. What a player he became here. I wasnt sure why we sign him with him wanting to be a CM when he clearly wasnt one. Not only that but on the wages he is. But. We all know it, the rest is history and let's all wish him to lift them both trophies by the start of June!

21 Mar 2019 13:48:18
They good signing but when you say free we still have to pay signing on fees, very high wages because they are so called free.

21 Mar 2019 13:50:26
No Joe Cole or Milan jonovich.

21 Mar 2019 15:13:28
What about Pegguy Arphexad?

21 Mar 2019 15:16:07
4. Fábio Aurélio?

21 Mar 2019 16:23:18
20. Joel Matip.

{Ed001's Note - is that above or below Cole and Jovanovic?}

21 Mar 2019 17:14:24
I know it wasn’t “free” but if we are talking value then the 2.6 million paid for Sami Hyypia is difficult to beat even to those free signings mentioned above (and I think Millie has been a hell of a signing) .

21 Mar 2019 17:15:10
Gary mac is number 1 on the list for me.

21 Mar 2019 17:25:19
Come on Ron I don’t get the hate, he’s played every game since January and we haven’t struggled have we? Gets bashed for no reason, before him it was Lallana who’s now praised on here.

21 Mar 2019 17:27:11
Where does Andriy Voronin rank?

21 Mar 2019 18:50:06
g. mac has to be #1 for the trophies.

21 Mar 2019 19:38:40
Gary MC for me as he won trophys. very close call to Milner who for me is the model player.

21 Mar 2019 19:51:59
You guys got me thinking back; whatever happened to Dani Pacheco?

21 Mar 2019 20:00:02
Come on lerchy, it’s not hate it’s more a bit of banter.

He’s not impressed me apart from his first 8 or 9 games pre-injury.
You talk about how many games he’s played since Jan, we’ve let in double the number of goals in half the games 😄

I don’t hate him, I just think he’s a weak link and I don’t get the impression he’s really putting himself about.

21 Mar 2019 21:35:05
Kolo Toure.

21 Mar 2019 22:00:21
Why are players given extra status because they won trophies. It takes a team to win silverware, not an individual. Apparantly, Messi isn't the greatest unless he wins the World Cup, but look at the calibre of players he has compared to Pele in 1970.
Whos the better player out of Matt Le Tissier and Djimi Traore? One has won the highest club honours, the other won zip.
I don't see why Gary Mac would rate above Milner because ‘he won trophies’.

22 Mar 2019 10:12:44
Not a lot between Gary mac and milner for me. I will never forget that free kick, near post from 40 yards. It was an important goal too.

Was Luis garcia a free?

22 Mar 2019 10:23:25
Just seen a list that says we got ings on a free? That doesn't sound right to me.

Hypia for 2 mil was one of the best deals Liverpool have done in the modern era. Top 3 cbs ever for Liverpool for me.

Hansen
Hypia
Van dijke
Carra.
Hughes.

22 Mar 2019 10:47:35
Run of the milner, I always thought pacheco would be a star. He seemed to have everything except height. He was at Liverpool when we were full of world class strikers, Owen fowler, torres.

22 Mar 2019 12:27:27
virgil - its not just the titles, but for me, when its close it becomes things like that that separate the comparison.

23 Mar 2019 08:17:48
Didn’t Gerrard supposedly say “Dont you dare shoot” to Gary mac just before he pinged that free kick in? 😂.

23 Mar 2019 11:54:48
I've seen both McAllister and Milner play, and it's Milner for me. The ultimate selfless team player, who'll do whatever is required of him week in and week out without raising an eyebrow. And I think Milner has had far more of an impact on this team than McAllister had on the team of that time.

21 Mar 2019 11:24:06
Eds do you know if we have any interest in the Betis LB Junior Firpo? And is there still interest in Diego Lainez? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Give us a break, Junior Firpo is just another random player. Liverpool has no interest whatsoever and he is moving elsewhere. Lainez moved elsewhere two months ago.}

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21 Mar 2019 13:33:34
Never heard of either tbh.

21 Mar 2019 16:52:04
Ed2, at least you can't say you are not being challenged in the job 😅
Who are these players/ why Liverpool?

21 Mar 2019 16:52:04
Ed2, at least you can't say you are not being challenged in the job 😅
Who are these players/ why Liverpool?

{Ed002's Note - Firpo is moving in the summer - I have no idea why the question is raised about Liverpool - it is probably a football game related matter. Lainez was of sustained interest - but he moved elsewhere.}

21 Mar 2019 18:51:25
probably asked coa the OP was wondering if liverpool are interested. just a stab in the dark there.
hope we pick up a fullback or 2 over summer. preference would be someone who can play both sides.

{Ed002's Note - Home and away teams?}

21 Mar 2019 22:42:21
yea if they could for both teams that would be novel.

21 Mar 2019 10:58:15
Saw this on the Beeb website.

Full marks to Everton FC on World Down’s Syndrome Day. Getting some guys along to their first team training session is brilliant. 👏

Something to be proud of for their supporters and any other club doing the same. Perhaps LFC have done something, I’m just not aware 👍.

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21 Mar 2019 13:35:29
Agreed Ron. Everton are probably the best for it and have been for a long time. Credit to them.

21 Mar 2019 19:39:38
that's pretty awesome.

21 Mar 2019 21:10:40
Everton lead the way with things like that.

{Ed025's Note - they really do cobra, everton in the community do some outstanding work for the less fortunate in society and im immensely proud of all they do....just a pity were crap at football really mate..

21 Mar 2019 21:41:18
All well and good but still a case of ‘sportswashing’ by Moshiri and USM, let’s not kid ourselves here.

23 Mar 2019 11:58:05
Ed025, football is just a game, while all charitable work is always enduring. Happy to read Everton does so much and is appreciated for it.

{Ed025's Note - they have a very good reputation for it ArAy, it would be nice to see others follow their lead to be honest mate..

21 Mar 2019 08:36:47
I spotted something quirky yesterday while browsing the birth dates of our players for some unknown reason. (while doing a very good impression of working) . It looks likely that we will lose most if not all of our remaining players born in the 80s. A great decade, but that's a good thing. Letting go of Mignolet, Lovren, Milner, Lallana and Sturridge will see a large chunk off our wage bill without affecting the team a great deal (and the couple of fullbacks) . Then just replace those with younger hungry players on lower wages (from within or without) and we're all set. Our squad only needs streamlining this summer, maybe one major signing but that's it.

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21 Mar 2019 09:35:38
Milner is still earning his money for me. Take weekend for example.

21 Mar 2019 10:18:56
I agree, Milner is an exceptional case and I would be happy to see him stay, but there is the possibility of him leaving for Leeds.

23 Mar 2019 12:00:15
I would not try to replace Milner and Lovren. If they want to stay or not is another matter.

21 Mar 2019 07:50:13
ED001

Hope all is well!

Past few seasons I've been asking you with players we've legitimately been linked with that you'd hope we sign.
I recall you mentioned VVD when that didn't happen it was heart breaking then in Jan it happened.
Following market I asked and you mentioned you hoped we bring in Alisson but wasn't convinced and prayed :) LOL.
Then we got him!

I would like to know this time who it is?
As both of the players were my main priority you mentioned previously also.

I would like a number 10 straight into the starting line up but not sure who we're linked with that would rocks my socks off, otherwise Werner would be good in my eyes but can't see where he would start, more as cover and swap with fermino, but I'm sure Werner wouldn't want that.

Any-who? Who's the player this time around, let's hope it comes in 3s?

{Ed001's Note - I am torn between 2 - Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Ryan Sessegnon. It is the full back position we most need strengthening, with no real cover for our first choice one and either of those could cover there, but both can also play further forward when needed.

In fact, thinking about it, I am going to say Sessegnon. He would allow us to swap to the formation with 4 attacking players very easily, replacing Shaqiri from it, but without sacrificing protection for the full-backs, like we have to when Shaqiri is in the team. He would slot in on the left, Mane and Salah then have the right and up top covered with Bobby in behind.}

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21 Mar 2019 08:08:29
Are either available eds?
Also is there any truth in Moreno going to Italy (I can’t remember what team sorry)

{Ed001's Note - Palace have no interest in selling Wan-Bissaka, so it would be if the lad himself forced a move he would leave but he is unlikely to do so according to those that know him. He is also being advised to stay put for at least one more season to get playing time. It has to be remembered he is, like Trent, fairly new to the right-back position, so another learning season would do him good.

As for Sessegnon, there is a very good chance he will leave in the summer when they go down. He is unhappy with his lack of playing time this season, as he turned down good offers to go elsewhere in the summer to help Fulham out.}

21 Mar 2019 08:22:31
Sessegnon would be a fantastic addition to the squad as would Wan Bissaka, if we got either in the summer I'd be delighted.

21 Mar 2019 08:26:27
Was just thinking about Jadon Sancho whilst reading the Eds comments. Why would a youngster risk so much to leave their current club when their playing career is going so well. Even in the short career of a professional sportsman, there is a short term v long term approach.

21 Mar 2019 09:35:27
I'd go for Sessegnon and one of Brandt/ Bruno Fernandes. That is quality depth for the likes of Robbo, Mane and OX. Those 2 signings should be our priority this season.
We can always hold off signing a new CB as we already have four senior ones and with Brewster set to get a look in and Origi back in Klopp's plans, we may not be signing a forward or a RB regardless.

21 Mar 2019 09:51:48
AWB would provide a genuine threat to TAA at right back I think.

21 Mar 2019 09:52:18
Wan-Bissaka, for me, over Sessegnon.
I see Trent's position in midfield, in the future, leaving a space at right back. I cannot envisage Sessegnon wanting to come to play second fiddle to Robertson.
I remember both me and Ed001 raving about Wan-Bissaka before anyone else really mentioned him. I think he has a great future. Where he will end up, should he leave Palace, we will wait and see.

21 Mar 2019 09:59:23
In response to G1, probably money. Plus, the lad is English and probably saw Germany as more a stepping stone to get a big move back to the prem where he'd be a starter. I guess a bit like Spanish players do before moving to barca/ Madrid.

21 Mar 2019 10:10:18
Do Liverpool hold any firm interest in Sessegnon ed? I’m hoping we’d be able to make a move at some point. There’s 10 to 15 years of potential there.

{Ed001's Note - we certainly were looking at him last season. Not sure if we still are though.}

21 Mar 2019 10:28:41
I thought AWB at first but like eds pointed out if we got Sessegnon he would cover more positions and klopp would bring out the best in him because he seems to have struggled this season. Both have huge potential.

21 Mar 2019 10:28:46
Ok cheers ed, with the homegrown quota likely in need of topping up in the summer, I think we’d be daft not to.

21 Mar 2019 10:32:44
Ed1, do you have any idea why they aren't playing Sessegnon as much as they SHOULD be doing mate? I just don't get it. He kept there to help them out and that's how they treat him, the sooner he's out the better.

{Ed001's Note - because of his age, that is all it is. They don't believe they can rely on him.}

21 Mar 2019 10:36:48
Ah I see. Its a weird one because to me, he's their best player. I hope he gets a move in the summer, no doubt he will.

21 Mar 2019 10:55:35
Palace are 5 points ahead of Cardiff, they’re not safe yet and could be tempted to sell AWB if relegated.

21 Mar 2019 10:58:37
They can't rely on him. He's been at fault for countless goals when on the pitch he's terrible at marking at corners and he's never attempted to win a 50/ 50 tackle never mind won one he's useless in airel duels too. Hopefully all these things will improve with age and experience but for now he can't be relied upon. If he plays in the left wing position as ed says he could cover with us a lot of those things wouldn't be such a problem.

21 Mar 2019 11:03:40
I think sessegnon is too good to play 2nd fiddle. But if he can play in the more offensive role then yeah, it makes sense. I always thought he was marked for spurs?

Robbo is too good to play 2nd fiddle. I would go for chilwell as lb back up/ rotation. And look to sign a striker. Sell Sturridge and replace with a hungrier player.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no current interst in Sessegnon. He will move elsewhere.}

21 Mar 2019 11:24:50
Aaron Martins for me, most assists and goals of any under 21 player in the championship. Would be a lot cheaper than wan bissaka too.

21 Mar 2019 11:23:14
Question for any of the Eds. do you think he will go for the rumoured price of £50 million? Hard to see anyone paying that much for him.

Do you reckon there will be a clause in his contract saying he could leave for a certain fee if Fulham are to be relegated?

{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page - this is the Liverpool page. Fulham are asking for around £50M for him - it is nothing whatsoever to do with Liverpool.}

21 Mar 2019 11:57:17
I guess we can put that to bed.

Thanks Ed.

21 Mar 2019 13:00:19
Robbiesine, Chilwell is England's left back and in my opinion a quality player. No way would he come to not be guaranteed a starting place. If I were a betting man I reckon he will move to City.

21 Mar 2019 13:39:51
Ah well, we can only dream lol either way no matter where the lad ends up, good luck to him, he'll do well.

 


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