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12 Dec 2018 13:29:41
Hi Ed1.

Depending on injury's of course, do you see Klopp changing the midfield against United? It was a pretty energetic performance and you could see the levels dip around 70/ 75 . We then seemed to be back at it again for the last 10 mins or so.

{Ed001's Note - I think he will have to, Milner and Wijnaldum were out on their feet in the final quarter. No way they could manage another game of that magnitude surely?}

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12 Dec 2018 13:37:42
For me it HAS to be Hendo, Fabinho and Keita.

12 Dec 2018 14:02:56
Henderson put in his best performance of the season for me, as per usual all the people with something to say aren’t around when he plays well, funny that isn’t it?

For me Henderson and Fabinho will get stuck into whatever lumps mourinho plays against us, keita will link the front 3 to the midfield, i’d be gutted if trent was injured i’d love him to redeem himself after last years performance against the mancs.

12 Dec 2018 14:04:23
Same here Salah, and a start for Shaqiri also.

12 Dec 2018 14:13:14
You don’t think those 2 mentioned Ed will have time to recover then mate for Sunday? Might be ok for an hour then change?

{Ed001's Note - maybe but I would prefer not to risk injury.}

12 Dec 2018 14:14:16
They were indeed, just hope Trent is ok so we can give Millner and Gini a rest. I’m with you Salah, a good shout for Shaqiri to start too.

12 Dec 2018 19:36:17
Hendo, Fab and Naby would do the business on Sun, IMO. Wiji and Milner were dead on their feet after those 95 mins vs Napoli esp. Wiji who was everywhere.

12 Dec 2018 10:50:17
Wow what a performance. That was Liverpool back to their best with their pressing and hurrying the opposition. Napoli were rattled and if Liverpool had been clinical the game would have been out of reach but was nice to see the boys with their mojo back. Looks like money well spent on VVD and Allison.

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12 Dec 2018 11:39:35
It's was an amazing performance. the first game i have been at this year and the confidence Allison gives us is immeasurable. I can't remember the last time I felt that we are now capable of scoring one goal to win games.

12 Dec 2018 10:09:13
Wow! What a night I've lost my voice screaming my tactical orders to the team form the main stand haha, Alisson! What can you say he's literally the best in the world right now who comes close, that is exactly what you pay for, Real Madrid actually thought courtois was a better keeper, their mistake is our gain, onto the next round! Who do we all want next?

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12 Dec 2018 10:13:18
Real Madrid, second leg at Anfield!

12 Dec 2018 10:20:25
Second leg would be in Madrid.

12 Dec 2018 13:40:05
Real Madrid for me too, its time for revenge. Second choice would be Bayern, their defence wouldn't handle our attack.

Gkad you had a good night ST.

12 Dec 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Super Alisson

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12 Dec 2018 10:20:44
Brilliant! Although surely it should be pink or purple, lol.

12 Dec 2018 10:36:30
Andy Dunn has his ratings on the mirror and he gave Gini a 6. Milly a 6. Virg a 7. and if that wasn't bad enough Allsion the beautiful Brazilian only got a 6. My good god some people are idiots.

{Ed001's Note - yes, those people reading a tabloid..... ;-)

12 Dec 2018 10:48:47
Thought wijnaldum was excellent last night, just wish he was more composed in front of goal
Firmino is possibly my favourite player and I've seen him get decent ratings but I thought he was quite poor last night.
How good is Allison? Can't wait to see him up against De Gea on Sunday, really think we're going to thump them.

12 Dec 2018 10:50:06
I deserve that.

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate couldn't resist.}

12 Dec 2018 13:08:22
LOL, brilliant 🤣.

12 Dec 2018 13:41:33
Hahahaha, love it. Lol this is why I never read the sh*te they publish.

12 Dec 2018 18:16:28
Ah Jaysus, what sort of drugs is Dunn on?

I want some, they must be good.

12 Dec 2018 09:33:48
On such a high after yesterday what a game what a performance last 16! here we come.

But with the united game coming up im just thinking of a trend. In the last few season (including when van gahl was there) we have met united on a very positive not and very high in confidence and ended up drawing and losing (i am talking league only)

Lets hope we beat them Sunday cause its been a while in the premier league and we really need the 3 points.

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12 Dec 2018 10:21:30
We can't look back, we're a different team as are they. We'll mince 'em!

12 Dec 2018 10:31:23
I felt like we would lose Napoli and beat united so will probably lose now!
We never seem to be able to break them down, and I’m sure Fellaini will be in there throwing elbows about - big game for vvd!
Let’s hope this new Liverpool can do the business!

12 Dec 2018 10:39:27
Hold on to the faith and believe. The mental strength and self confidence is building up in this team. We have the perfect blend of experience and youth now, and we're going to go places. 😉.

12 Dec 2018 10:42:19
What team dya reckon we'll play? I'd like to say keita but he's so small compared to Fellani n Matic so I don think think he'll start, I can see Fab in there and shaq.

12 Dec 2018 13:21:35
The best player in the World is a relatively small guy. Lionel Messi. Does okay against some pretty big guys. 😉.

{Ed001's Note - yeah but could he do it on a wet and windy day at Old Trafford, as they are the new Stoke...}

12 Dec 2018 13:45:57
We won't only win Firmane, we're going to batter them mate, I really do think it'll be a slamming. We're coming back to our best just at the right time, they can park the bus and play for a point etc, bring them on, they have nothing on us, I was more worried about the Bournemouth game.

12 Dec 2018 13:55:42
The big guys push him around Ed001, and send him to smell the grass on his behind fairly often, but we've all seen what he does. He just gets back up and gets playing again. Like the battery that keeps going and going. (Seriously though, I don't think Lionel Messi would have too hard a time in the EPL, even so late in his career. Maybe not score 60, but would still hold on to being the best. A frail looking guy like David Silva has done pretty well with no harm to his reputation) .

{Ed001's Note - I agree mate. All those TUEs as a kid have made him strong enough to cope and robust enough to deal with the fouls he gets on a daily basis.}

12 Dec 2018 14:30:20
Messi, he's dope, bro :)

12 Dec 2018 16:01:31
"Groovy" is the word we use, from my generation, Zed 😉.

12 Dec 2018 21:19:22
Good point, Ra.

I’m sure there’s a Latin phrase that Ed025 used in his youth 😉😂.

{Ed025's Note - jordanus and fabicus are crapicus, thats the only latin i know mate.. :)

12 Dec 2018 08:27:10
Hi Ed02. How are you doing? Need your inputs here. Could you please let us know on the financial aspects of Champions League participation. I was going through some reports where it was mentioned that there will be ranking based distribution for the participation money in the first round. And there will be money for each win and draw. Subsequently, there will be more money if a team qualifies for the next round. Please help with the details.

{Ed002's Note -
Play Off Round losers - €5M
Qualifying for the Group Stage - €15.25M
Winning a Group Stage match - €2.7M
Drawing a Group Stage match - €900k
Qualification (Round of 16) - €9.5M
Qualification (Quarter Finals - €10.5M
Qualification (Semi- Finals) - €12M
Qualification (Final) - €15M
Winning (Final) - €4M
Additional Payments for Clubs in the Group Stage (Television Money) – A share of about €300M depending on several factors
Additional Payments for Clubs in the Group Stage (Performance Coefficients) – A share of a little more €585M depending on several factors (between €1.1M for lowest ranked club to about €35M for the highest ranked club (Real Madrid).}

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12 Dec 2018 09:19:51
Can’t wait for sky sports to glance at this page and be inspired to run a good twenty min segment on the financials and whip everyone up into a pre window frenzy. Seriously though, thanks for the info ed very interested to see how much the play off losers receive.

12 Dec 2018 09:46:39
Thanks a lot Ed02.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

12 Dec 2018 10:33:02
Sorry for my understanding, Madrid get paid a bit extra because they are ranked highest? 😳.

{Ed002's Note - Some of the payments are based on performance based rankings, Real Madrid are ranked #1, Barcelona #2 etc..}

12 Dec 2018 11:13:07
top quality info Ed002. I hope we can keep progressing in the competition and next year we should move up the rankings and be in at least pot 2.

Shout out to Gini he is far exceeding my expectations.

{Ed002's Note - As it stands right now Liverpool would be in Pot 2 or 3 - much depending on who wins the major leagues. Liverpool has jumped up the rankings as it has been expanded from 5 to 10 years.}

12 Dec 2018 11:18:45
Excellemt question by OP and wonderful insight provided by ED02.

So you possibly earn a headline figure of €70m if you end up winning the CL.

12 Dec 2018 11:27:31
So 15.25 group stage
8.1 matches won
9.5 qualification knock out
20.0? Additional payment
? TV money

You can see the importance of top 4 Gauranga.

12 Dec 2018 14:31:32
Who's Gauranga and why did your autocomplete go there first?!?

Travel to 'certain' parts of South America much? ;-)

12 Dec 2018 16:10:34
I'm waiting for the day when club chief accountants start sitting next to managers on the bench, to remind that a win is worth 1.8 Million more than a draw in a group stage match. 😏.

13 Dec 2018 00:08:13
Wow you get more money for qualifying for the final than winning it.

13 Dec 2018 00:09:13
The amount of knowledge you possess Ed2 never fails to Amaze me.

13 Dec 2018 09:29:43
Just for Berg, the figures are cumulative.

Both teams who qualify for the final get €15m, the winner also gets €4m on top.


13 Dec 2018 17:18:54
Thanks zed.

12 Dec 2018 08:49:21
Can VvD's yellow card be contested Ed? He clearly got the ball before the player.

{Ed001's Note - it was a foul, the decision was the correct one. A follow through is a foul now. Why have people forgotten when you were all complaining how Burnley got away with the exact same things?}

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12 Dec 2018 09:20:50
As it was a European game, I thought he was lucky to stay on the pitch when I saw the replay, maybe I’m wrong.

12 Dec 2018 09:35:31
Yep there was a case for red two although im certain there was no intention.

12 Dec 2018 10:17:42
He was a bit lucky it wasn’t a red - you can’t follow through the ball studs up like that. Ancelotti is a bit rich for whining about that though, as Verratti did exactly the same tackle or worse in the first leg.

{Ed001's Note - Verratti? He doesn't play for Napoli, he plays for PSG, Ancelotti is in charge of Napoli.}

12 Dec 2018 11:41:07
Dedinitely a foul and at least yellow. Then it depends on the individual ref if its a red.

I rekon there needs to be some responsibility laid on the tackler which is why VVDs tackle as well as those from Burnley should be called.

12 Dec 2018 13:26:26
Just based on what i see weekly in the EPL (but don't know the exact rules on the subject) studs up with one leg usually ends up with a yellow and studs up with both legs usually earns an immediate visit to the changing room and showers. Not as simple as that, but that's what I have noticed.

{Ed001's Note - and that is the way it is meant to be now.}

12 Dec 2018 13:53:29
I was against the decision at first BUT I didn't see the replay, my stream buggered up as it was about to show it but I saw it this morning and yes it was a clear foul. There's no backing that up imo. I don't think he intended to do it but it's not the point. Overall the ref was bloody useless imo but with that one he got it right.

12 Dec 2018 07:57:37
There was so much intensity in our play last night, I'm just glad we have 4/ 5 days before we play United on Sunday.

I thought Matip and VVD were brilliant last night, as were the midfield. I need not mention Alisson. Let's just hope Trent and Matip are ok.

Nice touch by Salah at the end to give his shirt away.

Sunday will be an interesting team selection after such a demanding game last night.

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12 Dec 2018 09:08:20
I think Salah giving his shirt away at the end was a blatant sign he’s not happy at the club!

Sorry drogie I couldn’t resist 🤣.

12 Dec 2018 10:22:16
He can't be short of a bob or two then, that shirt costs a fortune! :D.

12 Dec 2018 13:27:56
87red. You weren't paying attention. He definitely was not smiling when he gave the shirt away. So yes, he is definitely very unhappy.

12 Dec 2018 07:50:03
Great result last night. Unfortunately missed the game as was at Camp Nou for the Barcelona Spurs (for a friends birthday) game which was very underwhelming. Saw some highlights in a bar afterwards and looks like we should've put them to bed early on. But a great save from Allison and another clean sheet which is showing something about the way we play now with Allison and VVD in the team so much more organisation and confidence too.
Anyway it could be a tough draw especially with VVD out of first leg, but neither Real or Barcelona look great this season. Ajax could still pip Bayern to too spot and you'd be disappointed to get knocked out by them, same for me with Dortmund even if they have improved this year. Anyone would want Porto. Feel Juventus could be the tough draw but then if united can't turn them over.

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12 Dec 2018 07:36:30
Did anyone at the match see how poor the referee was last night? I've never seen such poor officiating in a European game in a long long time. It was quite extraordinary.

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12 Dec 2018 07:47:14
I remember last year finals ref was also poor.

12 Dec 2018 08:00:11
Refs for European games are always less willing to let things go and blow for anything. Just got to adapt to the way they ref the game.

12 Dec 2018 08:17:06
Was at Barcelona spurs last night and where I can’t say the red got any decisions wrong anytime a player got near the man with the ball a foul was given. Really made it difficult to watch.

12 Dec 2018 11:20:24
Said to my Mrs last night it looked like he'd won a raffle, first prize ref a champion league match.

12 Dec 2018 11:27:03
He was too involved. I feel refs like him just blow for attention sometimes. Some of the things he was pulling up was embarrassing.

12 Dec 2018 11:45:07
That ref has been in charge of Liverpool games in Europe 5 times now and we lost the previous four, so last night was at least an improvement on that.

12 Dec 2018 12:21:50
I remember last nights linesman being appalling. Seemed like he flipped heads or tails on a bunch of offside decisions.


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