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20 Jun 2018 13:21:04
Well done on the charity game lads, congrats to all involved.

Am I too late to throw my name in for the next one?

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20 Jun 2018 13:46:37
You just have to enter the competition mate. I think it is still on one of the first 2 bannter pages, or alternatively you can enter on the Facebook page, Football-rumours.

20 Jun 2018 14:06:11
Thanks mate.

20 Jun 2018 15:54:11
Irish I entered the competition but if I'm not lucky enough to get picked I'm thinking of going over for the game anyway mate.

20 Jun 2018 16:13:55
Barry if we can get enough people the plan is to do some kind of 5-7 a side tournament. It will be separate to the Matt Hawker Cup, but I expect we'll still look to raise some money for charity, and it will be just as good of a day!

20 Jun 2018 16:32:35
Ahh brilliant MK.

20 Jun 2018 13:06:39
Exactly 3 years ago we signed joe gomez discuss:

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20 Jun 2018 13:38:02
And he’s a jolly nice bloke with lots of talent. Have high hopes for him to get eased in to CB this year and to be a mainstay of the side season after next.

20 Jun 2018 13:55:35
Spot the teacher.

20 Jun 2018 14:02:43
Think he’s progressing as planned. He’s adapted to full back well although he’d prefer CB, understand that’s the option this season. He’s had good first team minutes and experience. Had his injuries but always came back with the same quality and reliability. Yes made mistakes, but he’s young and played out of favoured position, but he’s also had many occasions where he’s been one of the best defenders.
Easy 7/ 10 and looking if he continues as an easy 8/ 10 which is the standard required imo to be a Liverpool first team regular (no one is really 10/ 10 except the odd Italian defender) .

20 Jun 2018 14:35:47
He's a tall defender, wears number 12, and has a pretty average beard.

20 Jun 2018 14:49:57
Would be first choice by now if it wasn't for injures, really good talent who could be a Liverpool player for the next decade of he stays fit.

20 Jun 2018 15:47:01
Speaking of average beard's MK.

20 Jun 2018 15:55:38
Beard has to go tho.

20 Jun 2018 16:15:37
Hey Dexter, at least mine grows on my top lip! Joe is letting himself down with that chin strap 'thing'!

20 Jun 2018 16:24:48
I think he will be playing centre-back this season, but away on loan at a top flight English (or Scottish) club. He will then return to play centre-back for us next summer.

20 Jun 2018 12:38:02
Hot of the press!

Dom Solanke has just bought a new car, a Mercedes V-Class and it probably cost him about £80k.

Perhaps he needed a better car to travel to a new club because we're selling him!? or maybe he is spending the bucks because he's about to be given a new lucrative contract? Maybe he needs a bigger car because LFC are signing his England under 21 teammate Tammy Abraham and Tammy will be house-sharing with Dom!?

Or maybe he just wanted a new car.

Eds please let us know what's going on here, don't leave us fans in suspense, what does this all mean!?

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20 Jun 2018 12:56:47
He's done a Raheem and is suddenly surrounded by children ;-)

20 Jun 2018 12:58:04
It means he has too much money 🤝.

20 Jun 2018 13:37:10
Lease plan.

20 Jun 2018 14:27:53
He won last weeks spot the ball competition.

20 Jun 2018 18:51:51
They cost around £45,000 and at least it's not a Ferrari or Lamborghini.

20 Jun 2018 19:28:26
It's a custom one hsf, PlayStations and tvs and fridges and all that. Just as an FYI!

20 Jun 2018 11:34:12
Ed001, do we have any interest in Nick Pope?


{Ed001's Note - no, we do not have any interest in the Pope as it is Jesus that saves....}

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20 Jun 2018 11:46:59
Nun Zed ;)

20 Jun 2018 12:25:39
Jesus may save but Saint John knocks in the rebound!

20 Jun 2018 10:12:12
Shout out to the Japan and Senegal fans at the World Cup.

Stayed behind after the game to help clean up the mess in the stadium. Great example to every fan who goes to football matches


{Ed001's Note - it was Colombia not Senegal wasn't it? And this is something Japanese fans always do.}

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20 Jun 2018 10:15:11
No it was Senegal.

20 Jun 2018 10:16:41
I think Colombia MAY have helped the Japanese.

But no Ron is correct the Senegalese did it after their game with Poland too.

20 Jun 2018 10:24:49
Absolutely class that, every fan should clean up after themselves. I certainly wouldn't leave my litter for somebody else to clean up!

20 Jun 2018 10:43:06
Several fans have done it - Japan, Senegal, Colombia and Algeria that I've seen photos off. Its really classy, and compared to the destruction I saw after the England match on outdoor big screens it's frankly embarrassing for us.

20 Jun 2018 11:28:00
Always take my rubbish home with me at any event I attend. Especially at the cinema! I took out a bank loan for a medium Sweet popcorn and Tango Ice Blast. No way I'm leaving the flavourless ice and under-coated popcorn behind. I want my money's worth.

20 Jun 2018 12:13:26
Pinch of salt/ 30 minutes in the freezer and it's good as new MK!

20 Jun 2018 12:27:51
Should of seen town after the champions league final.

20 Jun 2018 14:56:31
The poor cleaning staff is sat watching like "De took er jerrbbss" ;)

20 Jun 2018 08:35:50
When asked if we have any interest in Nick Pope, I'm waiting for one of the eds to reply "Nun"


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20 Jun 2018 10:09:01
🥁 very good Zed 😛.

{Ed001's Note - don't encourage him Ron!!}

20 Jun 2018 11:05:45
Don't make a habit of it, Ron please?

20 Jun 2018 11:29:57
Zed, you have a growing reputation as the resident "Pun" master.

Do you have any children? Because for selfish reasons I'd like to believe these are "dad jokes".

20 Jun 2018 12:03:43
:D :D

I do have 2 kids, Adam, so they are Dad jokes.

However, I have been doing them since I was a pre-teen (along with smoking a pipe and wearing comfortable slippers and a chunky knit sweater ;-)

20 Jun 2018 13:40:33
Haha, can just picture you now sat in front of the open fire, broadsheet in hand, tutting as noise interference breaks up your classical radio song.

Review Of The Day 20th June 2018

20 Jun 2018 06:24:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th June 2018

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20 Jun 2018 06:45:09
Big Jack Wilshere fan then Ed? :)

{Ed001's Note - oh yes. I think I overrate him personally.}

20 Jun 2018 07:20:44
Cheers Ed.

What wilshere fails to grasp is that this is not being done “to him” but actually a direct result of his own doing. Poor attitude towards his career in every way. It’s a shame because when he broke onto the scene as a youngster he showed real promise.

An even bigger shame is that this finally happening will not see a change in attitude or effort. Ultimately players like him or balotelli or ravel Morrison will always get a club who’ll take a punt and pay them obscene money to continue to be a prick.

{Ed001's Note - he simply was ridiculously overrated to begin with and so making no progress and improvement showed him up to be crap.}

20 Jun 2018 07:24:55
Cheers Ed mate.

Haha Arsenal will be counting their blessings, they will finally see the back of that lazy bugger!

{Ed001's Note - Emery made it plain he saw no place for him unless he changed his lifestyle, hence him leaving. Funny how he says money wasn't the issue but he only considered Arsenal's reduced wages when no one else would offer him more!}

20 Jun 2018 07:44:48
Yeah the lads off his head Ed. I really don't like him at all, he thinks Arsenal owe him something, the cheek? If he put the effort in from day one then maybe but he never did. I have never seen any talent from him, he's too selfish and wants things his way instead of putting his career first (or so called career) . I wouldn't care if he was never seen on a pitch again, he doesn't deserve to be and never did imo but instead we've got an arrogant, rich, selfish turd! Good move by Emery.

{Ed001's Note - but he puts things on social media about Arsenal so the fans love him and forget how often he has let them down.}

20 Jun 2018 07:50:16
Arsenal seem like going from strength to strength, pretty excited as well as concerned about their campaign. they will make top 4 harder this season.

20 Jun 2018 07:57:05
Yeah it's like his covert way of getting people to like him. A friend of mine an Arsenal fan, thinks the sun shines out of his arse, I've never understood why! All I know is, if he was a Liverpool player I'd want him out asap kind of like I do with Clyne.

Let's wait for Walter to comment and say we should sign him lol.

20 Jun 2018 08:00:02
Issa diop was quite highly thought of, seems like a good move for West Ham?

20 Jun 2018 08:12:42
Wilshere is world class. I once saw him down a pint in under a minute, whilst smoking a roll up through each nostril.

I'd take him at my local pub team. They need some better post match entertainment because whatever the barmaid thinks, she can't sing.

20 Jun 2018 08:14:15
If you think you overrate him, glad I'm not on the receiving end.

20 Jun 2018 08:18:37
I’m listening to talksport and you would think Arsenal have released a prime Xavi! The press seem to still really rate him and see him as this youngster who had a blinder against Barca.
His last 2 seasons he’s kept fairly fit and bar a good few weeks this season he’s not been good enough, couldn’t even make the Bournemouth side last season. The teams who go for him will tell you a lot because I only see him going down and that’s even with him being available for no transfer fee.

20 Jun 2018 08:22:42
Love the pic ed and thanks for the update. Have a good one.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

20 Jun 2018 08:34:12
Nice one Ed001.

It appears the wheelchair has a puncture.

Says it all, really!

{Ed001's Note - very suited!}

20 Jun 2018 09:32:00
Just to add, West Ham signing Diop, and Sampdoria signing Colley are both absolutely brilliant signings. Those two are both fantastic, physical defenders.

20 Jun 2018 11:17:51
To be fair lads, Wilshire was highly thought of when he was coming through the Arsenal ranks.
I once saw him put in a really good performance as a 16/ 17 year old against Liverpool in the League Cup.
Mind you that was the night when Philip Degen looked good and Emiliano Insua scored a worldie!
Strange night.
But he was a very good player when he broke through, is what I mean.

20 Jun 2018 11:39:57
Please please if we sign only one more player let it be wilshire. Once he is at full fitness off the fags and booze this player will help us take second place from arsenal.
Let's hope we can get a good 5 year deal with this man.

20 Jun 2018 11:50:48
Positive Red Walter, can you please give the keyboard back to your brother, Negative.

20 Jun 2018 11:59:27
Lol knew it Walter hahaha!

20 Jun 2018 12:41:39
Salah and mk I am so positive for wilshire I know edd 1 isn't a fan but by George if he if fully fit what a player we could have.
If he were not to come I'd be upset but I would go as far as say whoever gets him it wouldn't surprise me if he gets their player of the season.

{Ed001's Note - he is bloody awful, he was fully fit for Bournemouth and they dropped him because he is crap. He was fully fit all last season for Arsenal and got dropped because, guess what, he was crap.}

20 Jun 2018 13:42:18
Hard to get in the team ahead of world class players like Xhaka, Elneny and Iwobi to be fair to him Ed001 🎣.

20 Jun 2018 13:48:30
I totally get your point edd 1 it's just I think he could really add something to the team. He would need to completely change his life style and simply focus on the football.
I don't think his heart was in the loan move which it should have been. Not many players were doing well under Arsene for the last few seasons.
I just hope he can pick up the pieces and reignite his career hopefully with us.

{Ed001's Note - but he is crap, he has no close control. His passing range is nowhere near good enough. He is weak. He is slow. Lacks workrate. He would offer nothing. He would struggle to get in the charity match teams. Actually no, he would fit in perfectly there.}

20 Jun 2018 15:08:51
He wouldn't fit in at the Charity game Ed, because he'd have tried to make it all about him 😂.

{Ed001's Note - true.}

20 Jun 2018 15:19:03
I assume Walter is referring to what he would add to the dressing room. (A bag of cans and a carton of smokes. )
I do think he could really unite the squad (against him) by getting totally scuttered at Firmino's Halloween party and being knocked the F out by Fabinho for making a pass at Rebeca. Now THAT is an exciting prospect.

20 Jun 2018 16:21:59
Best keep an XL shirt incase he does end up in your charity team ed.

{Ed001's Note - he would defo be on the other team then we can win it next time!}

20 Jun 2018 16:24:56
I'm now thinking Walter is having us on.

20 Jun 2018 17:50:15
One of these players who's personality is bigger than they are, like Ince, although Ince had talent, not near as much as he thought he had.
There is a reason people rate Wiltshire, he has got something but if you can't quit smoking for 10 years in order to be a professional, premier league footballer then you really don't want it enough.

He has natural talent and that makes him think he doesn't have to put in much effort. Thing is there are a lot of players in the prem with a high natural talent who HAVE tried and became all they can be.

I think he should see a sports psychologist but you just know he would never do that. If he cut out the cigs and dropped the ego and put in as much effort as someone like Henderson does he could be an asset to a premier league club. He will never be the player Hendo is though, he has left it too late. If he had had Jordan's dedication he could maybe have been a better player, dunno.

His career is destined to Peter out, I can see him at as many clubs as he has years left in his career. Maybe having one good season but I won't be holding my breath.

To be clear I wasn't comparing Ince and wilshere as players but more the self important image thing. Ince played for forest, utd, inter and Liverpool. Jack's played for arsenal and the cherries.

20 Jun 2018 17:52:27
No salah, might not be the popular opinion but I really do rate the feller.

20 Jun 2018 21:09:09
May I ask Walter, how many times have you seen him play? I am just failing to see how you find him any good that's all mate lol he's terrible, I think even MK would run rings around him. Well, on second thoughts maybe not ;) but you catch my drift!

19 Jun 2018 23:42:59
Evening everyone, ed001 I have a question regarding Rhian Brewster? I read a lot a couple days ago that a deal had been agreed and ready to sign, is this still the case and if so why isn't it signed as if yet? My second part to the question is the supposedly playing time he been offered. I believe he was promised a realistic chance if breaking into the first team. I for one don't like this surely a players should be in the first team based upon attitude merit and endeavour rather than I don't want to loose you for a nominal fee so I will promise you game time. If the lad isn't up for it (to which I have no idea by the way) then don't you see this as detrimental to the rest if the squad?
Sorry for rambling on a bit hopefully all gets sorted and Brewster is as good as people make out to be I for one just don't like this promise of game time to appease players.

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, he might be away on holiday, I don't track the players' movements on GPS sorry.

Yes, I also think it is a mistake. If he has not got the desire and belief to fight for a place then get rid.}

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20 Jun 2018 05:47:49
Ed, If Im not mistaken, Im sure its been said before that Klopp has made such promises to other players, namely Grujic and Ward, and then reneged on the promises anyway. Im sure there were a couple of other players too given promises by Klopp that didn't eventuate, if I remember correctly.

{Ed001's Note - Ward wasn't given promises.}

20 Jun 2018 07:00:05
The only agreement on playing time should be:
If you’re fit your performance in training will determine whether you play or not.

I sympathise with young players, they need to play to progress, but that can be on loan. The other issue these young men are influenced by usually more intelligent agents.
I think some players need better education about how to progress. A lot of their development needs to be “self directed”. Some of them think they need to be spoon fed by the clubs, but if you look at some of the best players they directed their own development. Ronaldo still never stops training hard and developing his own game. Henry used to practice moves and skills in his own time perfecting his movement. Harry Kane is another example of someone who looked st his game and analysed where he needs to develop to become successful.

20 Jun 2018 07:37:12
Surely, it works both ways. If Liverpool are not prepared to give Brewster what he asks for, then don't make promises and let him try someplace else. He was prepared to leave.

We, as supporters, would've loved the club to sign youngsters like Mbappe, Pulisic, Ousmane Dembele, etc. when they were 18 years old, but we are always complaining when our youngsters want the same chances in the first team. If we don't want to lose our promising youngsters then we have to play them or let them go. We can't have it both ways.

20 Jun 2018 07:52:48
I would let them go on loan but with a ‘development plan’ devised by the coaching team at Liverpool. Players on loan need to be monitored by our staff to see their degree of progress. Players who engage with the plan - keep them on. Players who can’t be bothered - let them go. 🤝.

20 Jun 2018 08:50:27
I can fully appreciate why young players want promises over playing time before signing for clubs. Many of them know that they can bust their gut in training day in day out but when the chips are down and the manager looks at his bench for someone to make the difference, no matter what happened in training that month or year they are likely to go with the 28 year old veteran with a history of creating late chances and not the 18 year old with 3 first team appearances. The expectation that players are given some indication and assurances that they will get their chance to shine in real games and not just some pre season and 2nd string cup appearances is absolutely fine. They just then need to back it up to make sure that when the younger players are given time to develop on the field, it's them that is chosen.

19 Jun 2018 21:51:29
Hi eds. Apologies if dealt with already. Just wondering how important, if at all, pepjin linders as klopp's number two is. Will he have an imput on tactics and team eleven or just there as a coach? I believe we really missed a no 2 in last few games of season in terms of set up, tactics and general imput.

{Ed001's Note - how will anyone know that when he hasn't started the role yet?}

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20 Jun 2018 08:30:26
I meant do you think that an assistant is important in general to the manager. Do they have much imput at all in terms of set up and tactics or does this all rest with manager ( at Liverpool) . Linders was very highly regarded at the club before he left. is it a positive thing getting him back in terms of coaching and possibly even recruitment of players?

{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the assistant. Only time will tell how much impact he has.}

20 Jun 2018 08:44:51
Thanks for replying ed. Appreciate your knowledge and thoughts. Have a good one!

{Ed001's Note - sorry I can't give your more details mate, it is just we will only find out after he starts.}

19 Jun 2018 23:57:42
Here's a question I've not heard posed before.

What liverpool player has been the best England player?

Ray clemence? Kevin Keegan? Micheal Owen even, he was pretty good for England.

I have no idea, in modern times it must be Owen or Gerrard. Clearly stevie was the better player but he didn't play as well with lampard and England as he did for Liverpool.

Peter Beardsley was pretty good for england.

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20 Jun 2018 05:05:10
Jordan henderson? he is the best in current squad after probably harry kane.

20 Jun 2018 06:09:59
John Barnes.

20 Jun 2018 06:36:31
Roger Hunt; World Cup winners medal says it all.

20 Jun 2018 07:04:39
Yes, depends on era.

Barnes wasn’t good for England that often but then how can you be when idiot fans abuse you all game.
Hughes was good for England. Keegan was very good. Clem had a lot of competition. Hunt with his World Cup win. Gerrard was a fantastic player.

So I think you can only really go by best in each era.

20 Jun 2018 08:25:56
Got to be Michael Owen for me. There isn't really a lot of debate from my lifetime.

Stevie Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Steve McManaman, Rob Jones, Robbie Fowler etc weren't utilised effectively or enough. Glen Johnson, Chris Kirkland, Jamie Redknapp, Scott Carson, Emile Heskey, Jermaine Pennant, Stan Collymore, Danny Murphy, Daniel Sturridge, Raheem Sterling, James Milner, Adam Lallana, Nathaniel Clyne etc just weren't good enough to make a big impact.

I'm pretty sure Owen is in the top 5 all time goalscorers list, and he did it in about 4-6 years. If he hadn't had injuries, he's be up there in the 80's with Ronaldo.

Hendo, Ox, Gomez, Solanke, Brewster and Trent have a good chance to do well for their country. In fact, I'd happily back Trent to be captain for club and country one day.

20 Jun 2018 08:45:12
Keegan was the English superstar player of his generation. And he also won Superstars, which for a kid growing up in the 70s will know it was the only sport related tV show worth watching.

20 Jun 2018 13:40:24
Check out the Causio flick that took out half of the England team in a World Cup Qualifier, absolute class. Then a Bettaga bullet header to finish off one of the outstanding moves / goals of the 70s.
England were poor in the 1970s, when English club teams almost ruled European football. Very odd.
Roger Hunt, numero uno.


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