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06 Jan 2021 20:43:15
Ed2, I can't see us buying anybody this window because we're skint. Where is the money coming from for the summer transfer window? or are we going to have to sell big to buy big?
{Ed002's Note - Clubs need to balance the books - Liverpool spent last summer accumulating debt. They have plenty of players that can be sold to refresh but it is critical that they resolve their squad management issues with HG and Club Developed players.}
1.) 07 Jan 2021 03:31:44
We need to start selling fringe players for realistic prices, and we need to do this fast. Otherwise where is the money for players we actually need going to come from?
Origi, Adrian, Keita, Shaq, Milner, Larouci, karius, Awoniyi, Wilson, Ojo, Woodburn, Millar, Grujic etc.
We have been holding on to these players too long where they are either sat warming the bench eating up huge paychecks or getting fared out on pointless loans with no end in sight.
Very poor squad management imo. No wonder the club's wage bill is through the roof and we don't have money to spare for transfers.
West Ham r about to sell Haller to Ajax. Commonsense dictates we test the waters and offer them Origi for 15 million pounds and see if they bite. We need money for a CB now by hook or crook.
2.) 07 Jan 2021 07:10:07
Bang out of order to include Milner on that list IB. His contract is up this summer so you’ll get your wish.
{Ed001's Note - he is contracted until summer 2022.}
3.) 07 Jan 2021 07:57:07
Milner but no ox? No way Indian.
4.) 07 Jan 2021 09:29:01
Milner is 36, why’s it bang out of order? Yes he’s a great player but he doesn’t play week in week out and will be the same next season if he stays. There’s a time when the club need to look forward. I agree ox should be on that list along with matip and phillips.
5.) 07 Jan 2021 09:55:47
The club is a business now and I’ve no doubt they will sell any player if needed to balance the books and I have no problem with this. Players want to leave all the time and won’t look back. Life moves on am afraid!
6.) 07 Jan 2021 10:57:45
If you can’t see how IB’s message is disrespectful to a great servant like Milner, then I can’t be bothered to even debate with you pegleg.
7.) 07 Jan 2021 12:19:23
'sat warming the bench eating up huge paychecks' Pegleg would you associate this with Milner? Let's give him the respect he deserves.
8.) 07 Jan 2021 13:13:14
So by your logic the club needs 11 players who play week in week out. We don't need back up players or players for rotation?
9.) 07 Jan 2021 13:49:45
I agree with ShaqAttack. Bang out of order to put loyal and decent players on a list of people we should get rid of!
In the words of Bill Shankley: "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, then don't support us when we win"
The message is "stay loyal to the club and the team at all times"
Have faith in the club who won 4 trophies for their supporters in last 12 months.
10.) 07 Jan 2021 14:48:40
I think we should keep Milner until he retires in 2022. When he signed his contract he spoke of his desire to coach at Liverpool when he hangs up his boots. He is the ultimate role model and still a very dependable player in multiple positions.
11.) 07 Jan 2021 14:52:35
the irony of your all defending one player but happy to bash the others on the list.
12.) 07 Jan 2021 15:34:05
Origi - has effectively been replaced already with Jota and Minamino, I love the guy but it's an obvious place for us to raise some funds and for him to get the move and playing time he deserves
Adrian - Has dome well but Kelleher has stepped up well. I doubt we'd get much for him though
Keita - This is the move I'd really like to see. I've always had hopes for Keita but he hasn't settled and injuries have seen him struggle to establish himself. A move could work for best for both him to reset and to raise some real funds for the club
Shaq - Hasn't played much so I'd see if we can raise anything for him and bring back Elliott
Milner - I'd keep him until he won't have us anymore!
Grujic - I'd really like to see him return and establish himself as a replacement for Gini (assuming he leaves), but I suspect he may move on unfortunately.
The rest are fringe/ kids IMO so won't get much for them.
In short, I don't see how we're likely to be a huge pool of funds unless someone like Salah were to move on.
{Ed002's Note - Adrian is out of contract in the summer - he is not going to be sold.}
13.) 07 Jan 2021 15:34:37
In what way am I being disrespectful to Milner? He is past his best, has been getting injured recently and is no longer a first team player. He is on 100k plus a week wages.
If we want to start trimming the squad, these difficult decisions need to be made. Milner has been a great servant to the club but it's time to move on. The senior players at the club like VVD, Fabinho, Alisson etc need to step up and become the leaders of the new look squad LFC will be building in the coming years.
14.) 07 Jan 2021 15:37:32
You can also add Phillips to that list. I'd keep Ox simply for the HG quota and Matip coz I doubt Klopp wants to overhaul the CB department in one go.
15.) 07 Jan 2021 18:22:33
Milner is a role model to the youth can play multiple roles in the squad and also fittest player every pre season he's a example to everyone else.
16.) 08 Jan 2021 14:11:49
Td red, where have I said that? I do t think he meant to put Milner in the bracket I certainly don’t. I think he’s a great player who’s served us well but unfortunately at his age he can be improved on. I’m also happy to see him stay but don’t get half the fans when they’re happy to see the likes of gini leave but cry over the mention of Milner going.
17.) 09 Jan 2021 09:39:20
The way I see it, we got VVD, Gomez to return to join Matip, Nat, Rhys and the kids. I still think we have more then enough cover in the CB position unless we are going to overspend to have 10 players per position.
18.) 09 Jan 2021 21:49:36
1) we don’t when VVD/ Gomez return to full match fitness never mind if.
2) Matip is hugely injury prone. Even if he does make it back for Utd game no doubt he’ll be injured again soon.
3) Philips wouldn’t be here if a buyer coulda been found in the summer. Wasn’t even included in CL squad. Contract up in summer.
4) Vast majority of supporters didn’t know Rhys existed start of the season. Was playing non league football 10mths ago. Not ready to be starting Prem league week in week out.
5) If Philips and Rhys was ready to be regular centrebacks then we wouldn’t need Hendo starting there. And I really don’t want to see Hendo starting there again.
21 May 2019 18:04:43
Firmino back in training today! get in lad! He's going to be so crucial in the final. Speaking of the final, is it me or is time dragging like hell? I just want it to be here already!
1.) 21 May 2019 18:34:13
I agree Salah, two weeks without football is killing me.
2.) 21 May 2019 19:06:40
I’ve resorted to watching highlights of all the games this season.
3.) 21 May 2019 20:20:03
Robbo seems to be okay as well.
Have seen a couple of photos of him there and he looked happy.
4.) 21 May 2019 20:40:23
Seems very long to me. Was there such a gap last year?
5.) 21 May 2019 21:01:09
Dragging like hell. Glad Firmino will be fit to play just hope he plays a lot better than he did in last years final.
6.) 21 May 2019 21:33:34
Welcome back Bobby!
We need those big white teeth on that pitch in Madrid 🔴
Cannot wait for the next Saturday, i need to try and keep calm till then. it's building up though!
YNWA!
7.) 21 May 2019 21:54:22
Doesn't anyone think that origi is a bit of a good omen for us in Europe he could have a big impact, I remember the Dortmund game home an away his form then was great then got injured obviously, but he seems too perform well in cup games for us an when he comes on or slots in, if Bobby ain't on it origi deserves a shot!
8.) 21 May 2019 23:35:57
Sunday was the worst for me, chest infection and no footy to watch : (
I know I was feverish but nearly put the SPL on!
9.) 22 May 2019 08:35:54
I'm glad there's a long gap if it means Firmino and Robbo get fit to play. Same doesn't apply to Kane though!
10.) 22 May 2019 09:26:34
We are always sluggish after long breaks though. Baffles me why the final isn't sooner.
11.) 23 May 2019 11:00:18
Italian and French leagues still have one game to go this weekend. Plus the German and Spanish Cup Finals are on this Saturday. I guess they expected clubs from some of those four leagues to be in the final. They were wrong.
15 Dec 2018 17:33:18
Ejaria to return to Liverpool early, I wonder if he will go elsewhere on loan in January?
1.) 16 Dec 2018 00:37:17
It's concerning that the word going around is that Ejaria left Rangers, and the Scottish league, due to it being too physical.
Hopefully that accusation is nothing more than slander because, if it is true, then that does not bode well for Ejaria's prospects. Every league is physical and you cannot carefully tip toe your way around numerous heavy handed challenges. I doubt many teams will risk bringing him in for fear he might not be willing to win those vital 50/ 50's.
Once again, I hope it is just a rumour because from what I have seen he is a decent player. A technically gifted young man who, at one point, I thought might get a game or two in the first team after a number of positive pre-season performances.
Fingers crossed wherever Ejaria goes he becomes more settled. whether that be Liverpool or somewhere else.
2.) 16 Dec 2018 08:48:02
Its rather telling that Stevie G sent him back, I doubt that will look good on his report card. The lad will need to pull his socks up and sort himself out as that was a bloody good opportunity at a good club with the right manager thrown away.
3.) 17 Dec 2018 00:13:15
Any chance it was a knee jerk reaction to a bad week for rangers? Meh, I’m a hoops fan so whatever.
04 Dec 2018 08:19:56
Hi Ed2, was wondering if there's any chance of you doing a sharkopod anytime soon?
{Ed002's Note - Sure but Ian in the middle of three weeks travel right now so it will newer to the holidays.}
1.) 04 Dec 2018 09:26:51
Fantastic Ed2, thank you, will look forward to that.
{Ed002's Note - No problem}
2.) 04 Dec 2018 10:17:45
Wow nice! Thanks Ed002!
3.) 04 Dec 2018 12:55:43
Ed002 will you be including a trip to the North Pole to see Santa on you travels?
Hope you have some quality down time in your time away.
{Ed002's Note - perhaps I should.}
21 Oct 2018 00:01:33
I see a lot of moaning going on which is fair enough, everybody has the right to speak their minds but I urge you to think about the most important thing and it's we're joint top of the league undefeated.
It's too easy to have a good moan, believe me I get it. We've not being playing the best football, far from it anyway but we're getting the results. Can we continue playing like this? sure we can, it's working somehow. I expected us to absolutely destroy Huddersfield but we didn't and that's that, it was hard to watch because of how poorly we played BUT we got the three points.
I have no idea what's going on in the background, I don't really think anything is going on, I don't think there's any issues I just think for some odd reason we're taking a bit longer than usual to get back into it, we're on what? game 9? it's a matter of time before the lads start to pull it together but even if they don't, there's no complaining from me why? because we're getting the 3 points from the teams last year we'd of drew against.
Onwards and upwards, good things are coming, we've made progress already, trust Klopp, trust the team and believe because that bloody title is finally ours this season, note this comment and quote me at the end of the season, it's happening.
I hope you are all doing very well.
1.) 21 Oct 2018 00:49:52
Good post mate.
Playing bad and anything near the top is amazing. At some point it will all click in to place and we will take some stopping. It’s great that we won’t have to play catch when this happens.
2.) 21 Oct 2018 01:59:14
Good post Salah mate. I knew Huddesfield wasn’t going to be easy.
My concern is how jaded and tired we looked.
{Ed0333's Note - for me the biggest issue is the three up top can’t for whatever reason string a simple through ball or a pass together for love nor money. They are playing as if they are drunk. We know they can be devestating on the counter and as soon as they remember how to pass well be ok. I have no idea why the cohesion isn’t there but one thing for sure is that well get better rather than regress.
3.) 21 Oct 2018 08:19:38
I agree with you salah, i think playing diff style so we don't burn out nesr end of the season, i think after xmas we will push on and see the hard press footy, klopp knows city can go all season playing like they do, so we are pkaying poorly but still joint top i will take that every season till klopp gets his full team he wants. ynwa.
4.) 21 Oct 2018 08:27:23
Suppose we all got spoiled last year with our attacking brilliance, this year we seem too get a goal or 2 then we sit back and rely on our new defensive quality, that midfield is good but doesn't unlock defences with some guile or score enough goals, but as said we joint top we have beat spurs away an got a point at Chelsea which is 4 extra points already.
5.) 21 Oct 2018 09:29:42
We hadn’t won for 4 games so I’ll take a result like that. We need to improve and Klopp knows it ðŸ‘.
6.) 21 Oct 2018 13:24:25
I think salah looks like he needs a break. He is turning into players, his touch is off and his finishing is too. I think he is mentally drained, from last season, the injury and the Egypt fa thing. Give him a week off, recoup and come back stronger.
7.) 21 Oct 2018 13:44:19
Are we really that bad guys? I get we can be better but is it really that bad. Remember how well we played when the pressure was of off us and the boys had smiles on their faces. We know they can be better and i for 1 know they will. For now let's keep the faith up like when the Hudds fans cheered the team after they had misplaced a pass that resulted in a throw in. We only just joint 1st place and you can see the effort of the boys. It will come together soon for now let's cheer them like never before e.
8.) 21 Oct 2018 13:11:42
Bang on ed. Nothing sums it up more than when Firmino came on yesterday- we broke and he had Salah right and Shaqiri in a better position to the left. Last season you'd put your house on him finding the right pass but yesterday he just kind of rolled it to the opposition.
I think our attack needs Firmino to play well more than the others and he seems to he struggling lately. But we know his quality and I'm sure he'll play his way in to form.
{Ed0333's Note - as I say mate I’m hopeful they’ll get the telepathic incisive passing back. One things for sure it really can’t get any worse. And when it does well start beating teams comfortably. I think the ball needs to be played quicker/slicker from midfield to the ‘Fab 3’ for some unknown reason we seem to be a bit pedestrian in that department this season and our performances reflect it. Another thing that is certain Adam Lalana is not the answer. Give me all the stick you want but I’m not a fan and he’s not even worthy of a place on the bench. I’d rather have Curtis Jones.
9.) 21 Oct 2018 19:25:03
Completely agree with you on that Ed regarding Lallana. At this level he's just not good enough and that's the harsh truth. I'm not blasting him, at one point he showed a bit of promise but now we're going for the title I really don't believe he's anywhere near good enough for us.
{Ed0333's Note - I’m not sure he’s even good enough for any top side in the Prem. You have to ask yourself would he get into the Spurs, City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal teams? He’s living on past glories and those fleeting moments of magic were absolute eons ago, and if anybody thinks he’s gonna have a Renaissance then imo your sadly mistaken. He should never have been bought in the first place by Brenda as he is what the term ‘luxury player’ was coined for. Anyway more importantly Salah how are you? I haven’t been editing for a while and think I’ve missed a major part your convalescence period. Are you up and about doing stuff outside or still house bound? Wishing you a speedy recovery to full health mate.
10.) 22 Oct 2018 06:41:44
Ed0333, I'd agree with all of that mate, well said.
Ah I'm not bad mate thank you very much for asking, things are looking good, got a few daft dr appointments this week and maybe I'll be cleared for work in a few weeks but won't be able to start until December now anyway as I have a really busy November ahead. It's been a really harsh few months but we're getting there now :) I hope life is treating you well Ed?
{Ed0333's Note - I’m good thanks Salah. I’ve been traveling quite a bit recently so haven’t been editing as much so didn’t know what all you reprobates have been getting up to. Glad things are looking up for you mate and no doctors appointment is daft when it comes to your health fella. I’m sure a few sparkling Liverpool FC performances will perk you up no end?
11.) 23 Oct 2018 10:18:59
Glad to hear you are doing well Ed mate, I had wondered where you had got to! I thought maybe Harry had got you back and captured you ;) .
Yeah you're right mate I'm just fed up of them to be honest, in and out of the Dr's like a bloody yoyo and to be honest half of it is so unnecessary but they do a great job so I shouldn't moan about them.
The worst part at the moment is I have to go and see a psychiatrist to make sure I'm fine mentally, work demanded it and I have only this morning found out I now need to do it weekly until I go back lol it's BS if you ask me mate, I'm not happy about it at all. They're only doing their jobs which I get but my god they make you depressed! I don't like the environment of it at all, mind you, the lady is a bit of alright so that's a bonus. (I hope my wife isn't reading, I'll be dead later if so ;) )
Sorry for the rant mate, I could go on and on because a lot has happened recently but I'll shut up now lol, I hope you have/ have had a great day. Stay safe Ed333, great to see you editing again mate.
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11 Apr 2024 23:50:35
Remember when we lost to Barcelona 3-0? look what happened there. I know, wishful thinking and all that but it's a nice thought atleast. We've blown it I'm afraid, we're out of that competition in my opinion. I didn't get to watch much of it, thankfully!
1.) 12 Apr 2024 02:27:23
Oh Salah. Ye of little faith!
Never Give Up.
2.) 12 Apr 2024 03:10:59
Luckily I was only able to watch the first 20 mins. In that time it wasn't looking good. They looked big, sharp, physical, quick and very much up for it. I think we got our team selection wrong again. Needed to go for it w width pace and aggression. That for me was Slob, Robbo, Bradley, Salah. No pace across the front w Elliott and Gakpo. I have to say tho that the last couple of months the team was playing well and Gakpo was well off it. The last 3 games he's been one of our best players but unfortunately the team has not performed. Total flip flop. Nunez was guilty of two glaring misses tonight and when we win he's forgiven. The irony is our bad form has coincided w some players coming back ie salah and Szlobazai etc. Tonight was our best squad for months so i'm a little in shock.
I don't think it's over we are capable of going there and getting a couple of quick goals but long shot for sure. I think now we have to play our strongest 11 in the PL not the EL.
If we win the league all will be forgiven. Let's hope City and Arsenal are able to go through and maybe lose an eye on the PL for a couple of weeks.
3.) 12 Apr 2024 06:49:36
Against Barcelona we played the second leg at home and we could finish in those days. Also we were underdogs from the start whereas we were expected to beat Atalanta on quality.
Different story away from home and no decent finishers in the team.
Sorry, this is a longer shot than that long shot.
4.) 12 Apr 2024 07:21:50
I have to agree with both Salah and Ron here. To overcome a 3 goal deficit in the second leg where we are playing away from home is a huge ask and given how we have been performing lately, seems unlikely. Still hoping that we do though but it looks like we are going out of another competition this season.
{Ed025's Note - im not so sure Drac, get an early goal and things change mate..
5.) 12 Apr 2024 07:46:46
Jota is back. We have a better shot than previously. Klopp needs to get his selection on point and firing the moment the whistle blows.
6.) 12 Apr 2024 08:35:24
Seem to remember we played better when getting beat by Barcelona than whatever that was supposed to be last night.
7.) 12 Apr 2024 08:54:46
As long as we have 6 minutes on the clock, anything is possible for the Reds in Europe.
8.) 12 Apr 2024 08:55:50
I think that's the issue Ed. We have not looked like scoring for a while now, ever since the FA Cup tie with Utd. I know form can change very quickly in football but I can see Atalanta just shutting shop and not allowing us many goalscoring opportunities in the return leg.
9.) 12 Apr 2024 08:59:52
C’mon guys, every chance of bagging three in the return leg. Early goal, they get panicked and who knows. All this dismal talk that the season is over etc etc. We are still joint top of the league and can still win it. God help you all next season when we are in transition, if you think this is failing, enjoy the ride we might not be here again for a while.
10.) 12 Apr 2024 10:23:11
One of the differences between Barcelona (Apart from 2nd leg at home) - We played well at the Nou Camp and didn't deserve to go in to the 2nd left 3-0 down. We played really well in the first left.
Last night, we were lucky not to lose by 4 or 5.
07 Apr 2024 23:32:31
So frustrating! We should've and could've won today, we weren't up for it enough, I don't understand it at all personally. First half we could've been 4-5 nil up, wasted chances and could cost us dearly.
BUT it's far from over, Arsenal have a few hard fixtures, I'd just of liked it more for us not having to rely on others dropping points but I suppose it was always going to be the case, if we'd of won today I'd of found it difficult believing we'd of gone on to win every single game left.
I'll say it now though, I don't think City will drop points. I believe we'll drop more and so will Arsenal. This concerns me because I don't want them to win it lol I'd much rather see Arsenal win it if we can't.
1.) 08 Apr 2024 01:45:17
Agreed Salah, it was a frustrating game to watch. We were all over them in the first half and in the beginning of the second. They then scored a goal out of nowhere and suddenly, are right back in the game. Before we knew it, we were trailing behind them and had to play catch-up despite our dominance. It could have been much worse but a draw isn't the worst result and I believe we can still push on for the title.
It is concerning though that our finishing is so off lately. We are dominating games and creating chances but are just not able to finish teams off. I'm not sure how we can improve things though, but I hope Klopp and the team sort it out soon.
2.) 08 Apr 2024 02:37:24
I agree with everything you said Salah mate. I don’t know what’s happened to our finishing recently. Especially when you look back at the turn of the year when we were winning and scoring 3 or 4 goals almost every week. In fact, I just had a look at our fixtures and from the 1st of January when we beat Newcastle up until 21st of February, we played 11 games in total. Out of those 11 games we scored 5 goals in 1 of those games. 4 goals in 5 of those games. And 3 goals in 1 of those games. That’s over half of those 11 games with a minimum of 3 goals.
The only other months besides January and February this season that saw us scoring quite a few goals was September. We played 6 games that month and we scored 3 goals in all those fixture bar the one right at the end of month, which was the 2-1 loss against Spurs (less said about the match the better) .
City will win their remaining matches like you said. It’s now down to Arsenal slipping up. Frustrating because it was in our hands but they have the toughest run in out of 3 at the top of the table. There are 4 fixtures where if it’s going to happen, it will have to be there. That’s Wolves away. Wolves are a Jekyll and Hyde side. They will ever get pummelled by Arsenal or they might nick a result. Chelsea at home is literally a copy and paste of the Wolves explanation. Spurs away is their hardest game in their run in. And lastly United away. They struggle against United at Old Trafford. Hoping one of them happens so we can bring the league home this year. Of course for us fans but to give Klopp the send off the man deserves.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 04:08:03
I'm still sticking with my prediction that City will drop more points and end up in 3rd.
And Arsenal won't go perfect the rest of the way either.
Still over to ourselves to collect as many points as possible, preferably all of them!
Salah - on a separate note. How do you quantify "we weren't up for it enough"? We created heaps of chances but didn't score so are you saying that the lack of scoring is why you're saying we weren't up for it?
4.) 08 Apr 2024 05:44:59
Ed1, why do you think for the past few matches we are struggling to close out games? That's two time against UTD where we should have win comfortably, but instead we lose and draw those two matches. Also our records against the big 6 sides this season are really poor.
{Ed001's Note - it has always been a problem under Klopp, probably because of the speed we attack at leaves players rushing things.}
5.) 08 Apr 2024 05:57:17
Just wanted to add that Arsenal has a huge advantage in the run in and that is their injury list. I can't recall a single first 11 player, except for maybe Timber, who has been out for an extended period. They are basically able to name the same starting 11 each game and this, I feel, has resulted in them being extremely consistent. It does remind me of the seasons we won the champions league and PL title and had very few players out injured and were thus able to keep churning out results.
6.) 08 Apr 2024 06:38:05
To say we weren’t up for it enough is a bit of a stretch to say the least. We absolutely battered United and only for a brain fart we gave them a glimmer of hope.
We lacked composure in certain moments especially in their box but I thought there was absolutely nothing wrong with the attitude of the players.
7.) 08 Apr 2024 06:58:39
Biggest worry is we learned nothing from the other week.
8.) 08 Apr 2024 07:24:51
I think to say we weren't up for it is way wrong, I thought we v sharp and aggressive when needed especially in 1st half. fa cup game yes i thought we slack and utd deserved the win whereas utd got lucky yesterday imo.
I think our problem is, and it was discussed on here Saturday on some of pages, that we just have 2 many not playing up to there potential. Not that they playing awful it just 2 many not playing well enough to close out a league. I would say only vvd, mac and kelleher playing to there full potential over last few weeks.
9.) 08 Apr 2024 07:40:48
The league is lost for me and I think we’ll finish third. Too many games were wasteful in front of goal and make games like Brighton harder than they need to be. The midfield aren’t clinical enough either, particularly Szoboszlai who looks redundant at points.
10.) 08 Apr 2024 07:44:11
Excellent observation Ed001, I do feel Bobby was cool in the box more often than not. Sure Salah has always been like that but still had a good conversion rate, Mane was fairly cool too.
11.) 08 Apr 2024 07:57:08
Oh the negativity, win our remaining 7 and City are irrelevant and its not even a given that Arsenal would have to drop a single point for us to clinch the title. Touchwood we'll be more or less full strength injury wise within the next week or so and we've a good set of fixtures to attack. Trust me City and Arsenal fans aren't half as negative as you lot at the moment, have a bit of faith in the lads. no one gave them a chance in August, have had horrendous injuries and decisions to deal with and are JOINT TOP so im going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
12.) 08 Apr 2024 08:12:14
Ron maybe its just as simple as our main goalscorer for 7 years having a bad patch after injury and probably the best finisher in the club out injured. If Jota plays in that game yesterday we win. Huge players like trent and diogo to help towards goalscoring returning imminently.
13.) 08 Apr 2024 08:30:02
Ed’s comment is intriguing - can think of numerous games, finals etc where have dominated and just not taken any chancels. Against real think courtious got a load of praise for what was poor finishing.
May be speed of play or how quick we play - but just seem to lack that calm composure. The counter after they scored, Nunez should be able to finish or even easier later off for Szo, but completely fluffed it. Curious if is an instinctual or innate ability or can be coached, as see in combat sports (famously McGregor vs Aldi) where just seem as relaxed or calm as someone knitting their 1000th sweater.
14.) 08 Apr 2024 09:05:05
Was it really the speed of the ball which made szob and Mo miss them chances yesterday? we always had erratic finishers like Firmino, mane nd Gini but usually we could rely on Salah, at the moment he's struggling.
15.) 08 Apr 2024 09:12:06
So many great points made on this thread and I agree with a large mejority of them. To say we were not up for it is just ridiculous. Our approach to the game was NOT the problem, IMO. It was that it seems as Ed01 said, the sped we play at could be a problem in the final third and Darwin and Diaz are guilty of this specifically. Jota on the other hand, is not.
Also and may be others can chime in, there seems to be a case of buck-passing when on the counter cos the amount of times I've seen the forwards do the "Not me so you have it" or playing the unecessary extra pass instead of taking responsibility and just whacking it is concernining. Diaz had a chance to blast it towards the goal andd then inexplicably passed it to Darwin who looked shocked and the attack died. Lack of confidence? We got to do better here, for sure.
All this being said, all hope is definitely not lost. Like @Salah and JNkunku have said, I think City will win all their games BUT if we win all of ours then they win nada. Arsenal have a worse schedule than we do so their chances to drop points are there. Us? We have NO margin for error now (and we did this to ourselves) so we got to win all our games. To do this, we MUST improve massively in the final third and cut out the Quansah-like mistakes.
16.) 08 Apr 2024 09:13:05
If we lose on GD to Arsenal, at least it will not feel as bad as the last time it happened! That was the time I swore I would never get upset by a football match again
Then Hillsborough happened.
Then Istanbul happened.
There will always be highs, there will always be lows. Yesterday was a low, more because we hadn’t learned from our recent mistakes at OT than anything but in the cold light of day there could well be many more highs before the end of the season.
17.) 08 Apr 2024 10:31:16
I'd imagine its hard to judge the speed of a game of football when watching it on a buffering stream Oli.
But as predicted you will tell us.
18.) 08 Apr 2024 10:33:19
For the first 20 minutes of the game the team were not pressing high and the front three were waiting until the ball made it forward to almost half way line before pressing, which I felt was smart since United play on the counter and all the games were they have done badly is against teams sitting deeper and waiting for them to come forward.
It was working well for us
Then for whatever reason we slowly started pressing higher and in the second half it was like klopps first season again and that's when the game got crazy. We were far too impatient, sitting deeper and not pressing was the way to go as united struggle to create and score with the ball in possession and their midfield gives up possession a lot. But for some reason we decided to play to their strengths, which was especially silly since that's exactly how we lost a week earlier.
We needed patience and professionalism and instead we slowly got sucked into a tennis match against a team which can only score in tennis matches.
19.) 08 Apr 2024 10:12:36
Interesting opinion, Ed, regards to your opinion that our speed of attack is partly to blame for our finishing. I don't necessarily agree with it, but interesting view point.
20.) 08 Apr 2024 11:54:43
the game was i agree frustrating, but there are a lot of people over reacting we are in no different position than when Citeh played the Gooners. They have now got champions league to play where they have to use their best players where as we can hopefully rest anyone that needs to and get some minutes back in legs for others. With 7 games to go many things can and will happen but we would have taken this at the beginning of the season, we are having a great season so far that could turn out to be an awesome one so let's get behind the boys and see where the ride takes us YNWA.
21.) 08 Apr 2024 12:14:59
We create so many chances because of the pace of our play. We miss so many chances for the exact same reason.
22.) 08 Apr 2024 12:16:22
We play Europa on the Thursday which is far worse then a Tuesday night game?!
Not sure we can be resting players.
23.) 08 Apr 2024 12:59:22
We can afford to rest them more than city nd Arsenal playing two European beasts and then hopefully each other.
24.) 08 Apr 2024 18:13:37
Man City play a quick ball in and around the box, that’s the way to break stubborn defences down, but they are cool in front of goal.
25.) 08 Apr 2024 18:40:54
Arsenal have atleast 3 tough games coming, Man U Chelsea and Tottenham. They will drop points.
City probably win all there remaining games unless spurs turn up.
We can still do this and maybe the United result will spur us on. Still believe lads, the team needs its fans more than ever now.
26.) 08 Apr 2024 23:22:17
StEtienneAmen - I can’t believe you’ve done that to me ?
My absolute worst memory of a football result ever.
I’ll never get over that game, it will haunt me to my grave.
27 Mar 2024 23:07:06
Anybody know if the poster 'stone' has been about? not seen his posts for a while and was one of them I always looked out for, hope he is well.
1.) 28 Mar 2024 07:04:10
Does that mean you enjoy getting stoned?
2.) 28 Mar 2024 08:54:50
I've been stoned for years, always happy to be a lil more stoned!
3.) 28 Mar 2024 10:55:42
Back in the Stonage (his username, I think), perhaps?
4.) 28 Mar 2024 13:47:16
Different users I think Oli mate.
26 Feb 2024 00:23:52
This is what Klopp built, an absolute machine, a unit. We're laughing for the future because of him. It'd take one hell of a terrible manager to bugger it all up now, we're future proof with these young lads. For them youngsters to come in with little to no experience and win a cup final? it's unheard of!
Klopp is an absolute legend, this team, their mentality, it doesn't matter who plays will always give 100%, this is what gets us the results.
An incredible cup win, should've been 2-0 but VAR was just the same old as per usual, absolute nonsense as was the ref. When you consider how many of our main players were out, all of the youngsters in, Chelseas team vs our kids, the refs terrible performance and VAR yet we got that win? it's unbelievable jeff!
That's 1/ 4 trophys done onto the next, every game is a final now. Bring on Southampton.
Believe. I think we're going to win the lot, there's nothing stopping this lot. It doesn't matter who is on the pitch and I believe we proved that today. It's the mentality and mental fortitude Klopp has instilled across the board, they're all worthy, every single player.
Let's just say hypothetically, Alonso is considering us, I mean he must be? but watching this lot he'd be rubbing his hands together, he has so much to work with it's unreal, he'd be walking into almost instant success with his management skills and the quality we have.
Very exciting times. GET IN Liverpool!
1.) 26 Feb 2024 01:07:26
Credit must be due to FSG as well for their long-term view in building the Kirkby training centre which has resulted in these kids being able to fit seamlessly into the first team. All seven of them! We're seeing the rewards of that now.
Are FSG really 'fleecing us' when this is what the model produces? I know we're all obsessed with Chelsea's academy, but perhaps they'd do better if they sometimes played some of them instead of selling them off like cattle. Just sayin ;)
2.) 26 Feb 2024 06:46:35
It’s nothing to do with fsg and you’ll all see it when Klopp goes.
3.) 26 Feb 2024 07:18:34
You should fully emulate your namesake Mr Bean - you’ve already half way there as you’ve got the comedy sorted out.
4.) 26 Feb 2024 07:51:23
We will see WDW, wasn’t no good before Klopp was it.
{Ed001's Note - that was before the academy rebuild took effect. It is not difficult to understand, it takes time for investment to take effect.}
5.) 26 Feb 2024 08:05:48
Probably FSG’s biggest decision coming up in their Lfc tenure of who replaces Klopp.
Alonso seems to be the stand out candidate and I hope they move heaven and earth to get him.
Beyond Alonso I’m not really sure who there is.
I know FSG like their stats model and there’s a few managers out there who have won things that might appeal to them stat wise but we should 100% swerve.
6.) 26 Feb 2024 08:49:53
Props to hicks for bringing klopp to his spiritual home. Oh, wait a minute.
7.) 26 Feb 2024 09:48:07
Salah, brilliant post. Re: Alonso, anyone who thinks he and his fam (LFC fans thru and thru) were not watching that final must be off their rocker. He is who we need and who I want right now. My hope is FSG approach him and that he takes it to fulfill his dream of managing the club he STILL supports till this day. Here's to hoping.
8.) 26 Feb 2024 09:54:43
Mr Bean, it’s been said a number of times that one of the great things that FSG has done (probably the best thing) for the future of the club, is the investment in putting together the training centre and bringing all the age groups together in the one place.
You probably didn’t see it, (not being a Liverpool fan and all) but after the match yesterday when he was interviewed young Bradley said it was a big challenge playing in the final but that the lads coming through the Academy have played the same way the seniors play, coming up through the U-18’s and the U-21’s, so that they knew what their role was and what they were expected to do. So, yes, we’ll see how it goes when Jurgen leaves.
9.) 26 Feb 2024 10:30:29
An incredible game. An incredible squad. An incredible club. An incredible manager. And, what incredible fans!
If ever there was a "club win", this was it.
The "Allez, Allez" in extra time was the death knell for Chelsea. The kids literally became 10 foot tall and displayed the confidence of serial winners.
Kudos to Alex Inglethorpe and the academy coaches. I have questioned the quality of the academy in the past but boy was I wrong. There was the debate about loans vs having them around the senior squad, with the level of PL2 football being considered insufficient.
Quansah's first touch after coming on in extra time was to dribble past Nkunku. McConnell spun two Chelsea players in midfield and drove the team forward in extra time. Bobby Clark was tenancious, tidy and played a key role in the play that led to the winning corner. He also got on Chilwell's pip - which was a bonus. Jayden Danns pressed and ran Chelsea's two centrebacks ragged after coming on and almost grabbed a couple of goals. And Harvey Elliott - what a shift. 120 minutes of pure heart and courage!
The senior players too showed their character and leadership. Kelleher should have this cup named after him. What a performance. Diaz ran and ran Gusto into delerium. MacAllister and Endo put in a midfield clinic and fair play to Tsimikas who put in two fabulous corners. And lastly, the captain. The best centreback we are ever likely to see.
Incredible.
10.) 26 Feb 2024 12:09:27
Formerly_FlyPelicanFly had Danns scored that header, not sure Wembley would have been able to withstand the absolute chaos that would have ensued, IMO.
11.) 26 Feb 2024 12:53:24
I thought Danns best chance was the goal line scramble.
All he needed was any kind of touch and it’s in.
12.) 26 Feb 2024 13:15:37
Ed1, does the fact the first team, U23s and U18s all play the same way indicate the club now has a "philosophy" as to how the game should be played, following the blueprint of Klopp similar to how the legacy of Cryuff pervades Barcelona? If so, does this suggest that the most likely candidate to replace Klopp is someone who has a similar playing style to him?
{Ed001's Note - yes and yes, to a degree. Style can mean different things though.}
13.) 26 Feb 2024 13:37:33
I, like most others on here, was willing Danns to score. He was so so close. The fans would have gone mental!
His debut goal will come sooner rather than later I feel.
14.) 26 Feb 2024 15:07:30
I’ve always said it will be tough when Klopp leaves. When some were calling for his head last season my response was be careful what you wish for.
I didn’t expect Klopp’s final season to come so soon but it will be very interesting to see how much of this desire, guts and tenacity comes from Klopp and how much of it has been permanently instilled into these players.
We have to keep hold of the leaders in this group like Virgil, Robbo, Trent and Ali as they are the ones that can bring these youngsters through along with whoever the new manager is.
We can’t let this mentality drain away and we as fans also have a huge part to play in that. Let’s remember Klopp’s words. Let’s continue to believe. Let’s make Anfield continue to be the place that nobody wants to come to.
I’m so proud to be a red. I’m so proud to be born into this community that can elevate inexperienced kids into world beaters. There’s nowhere else on this earth like Anfield and there’s no other club on this earth like Liverpool FC. Let’s keep it that way.
04 Feb 2024 23:42:55
When you consider how we've had players out/ injured the past month or so, I think we've done very well in this period. This is only our second loss of the season, that's pretty good going.
We didn't do well today but it's just one of them, it's still ours for the taking. We need to look at the bigger picture. A result none of us wanted but we're still doing incredibly well, it's a one off result, bring on Burnley.
1.) 05 Feb 2024 00:25:31
It’s technically Man City’s for the taking… points wise.
{Ed001's Note - no, because they still have to play us, so it is still technically in our own hands, as it is in theirs.}
2.) 05 Feb 2024 02:21:53
Ed, bad day in the office you reckon for today? Most players were really bad today.
{Ed001's Note - yes, poor team selection to players not turning up, it was a bad day at the office for everyone.}
3.) 05 Feb 2024 02:33:23
Bad day but these players deserve the benefit of the doubt, we would have taken this point haul before endo nd mo went off for their countries. Touchwood were near full strengtb now with everyone back, we go again.
4.) 05 Feb 2024 05:11:09
A win and a loss against Chelsea and Arsenal is still better than 2 draws! As bad as we were in the first half, they didn't have as many clear cut chances as they had in the FA cup game. Also, we started the second half much better, the mistake for the goal killed it. A draw wouldn't have been too bad a result.
Grav didn't press, but Trent and VVD were both poor.
5.) 05 Feb 2024 05:06:24
Would you put Robertson in and move Trent to midfield in place of Gravenberch for yesterday Ed? Or maybe Harvey instead of Gravenberch. Nunez seems to be having a knock days before, otherwise him for Gakpo I guess. Our attack seems to be so poor without him.
{Ed001's Note - I would have said Elliott in midfield, but I would have put Robbo in rather than Trent, who was clearly not fully fit. Gravenberch just is not getting it at all. He doesn't have the intelligence to understand the press - at one point in the second half he closed down when we were deep in our own half. When the ball was passed away from him, instead of dropping back in (which would have been the correct thing to do as there was no press on) he starts trying to wave everyone else on to press. Then when it created confusion with the others unsure whether to press or not, he just threw a strop rather than getting on with getting back into position. It was like playing with ten men for most of the time he was on the pitch. He should not start against anyone strong. He really needs remedial work on his understanding of the game and particularly the press.}
6.) 05 Feb 2024 06:40:55
Don’t see what grav offers atm.
7.) 05 Feb 2024 08:10:27
It was still 1-1 when the subs came on. Normally after we have played poorly this season the subs have made the difference. In this game the subs were just as bad as the players going off. Just a very very bad day at the office.
The games are now well spaced out for a while and Burnley is the perfect game next up.
8.) 05 Feb 2024 09:08:50
Yeah Gravenberch was the main offender for me. I can see why he couldn’t buy a game at Bayern now. For all his talents, intelligence and effort don’t seem to be part of them.
You can forgive Trent for not being fit, you can forgive Alisson for a rare error, but Grav only has himself to blame for not knowing how to play our system by now.
I hope he turns it around but I can’t help but feel he was a dud purchase, and to think, he’s not learned how to play a system in 6 months, and he’s got to learn another when Klopp leaves.
If Thiagos fit then he gets his space until the summer for me.
9.) 05 Feb 2024 09:16:59
Totally agree with team selection yesterday it was like playing with ten men from the off I really don’t see what Gravenberch brings to the team completely AWOL. Arsenal credit though although they didn’t play great they worked dam hard to stop us. Onwards and upwards.
10.) 05 Feb 2024 09:37:06
With Gravenberch, we have to consider he is only 21 still but I just don't see him improving at all. Fingers crossed we're all wrong about him and he'll crack on but I do have my doubts. If he continues like this he should be loaned to a newly promoted club next season.
11.) 05 Feb 2024 10:24:00
I think Grav will become a decent squad player but he is just not ready yet unfortunately. Elliot should have played but I doubt it would have made much difference. Everything just went wrong and we really missed energy all over the pitch.
12.) 05 Feb 2024 10:25:31
Gravenberch was an unnecessary buy and waste of money. Should have kept carvalho as an option and tried trent in midfield to see if he can play in it or not.
13.) 05 Feb 2024 10:51:02
You don't start Gravenberch at the Emirates with Elliott available. You just can't esp. with the type of intensity Arsenal would come with. That's on Klopp. We started slow again for the upteenth time at the Emirates. That's on Klopp. We gave the game away twice and you can't do that in such a high profile game. Bad day at the office, really.
14.) 05 Feb 2024 11:17:28
Coulred, they outworked us. That's it and sometimes esp. if the oppo. isn't doing much, that's all you need at times.
15.) 05 Feb 2024 12:45:42
Agree Oli which is why I give them some credit cause not many teams out work us
Up the pool.
16.) 05 Feb 2024 13:04:17
Ed1. True. But now if we both win our games until the City match on the 9th of March. City can afford to draw that match as opposed to the other way round. So advantage is with them in that regards. We would have to beat them, which we can of course. It’s just I would have preferred for once not not give them any advantage and keep that two point buffer, but it is what it is. Like I have said and maintained, it was a horrible day all from manager through to the players. All that’s left is to forget today, pick ourselves up and go again.
On a quick side note. I have been saying wrong team selections and players playing badly was what contributed to todays result (banter and match page) . A lot didn’t want to hear about the team selection being wrong. But I’m sure as you have now said it a lot of those that were arguing will now say the team selection was wrong….
17.) 05 Feb 2024 13:28:49
The team selection was appalling yesterday, but it annoys me even more how we seem to always have absences for critical games/ periods of the season. Why were Szoboszlai and Nunez not available yesterday?
Secondly, why did we start poorly at The Emirates yet again? We know Arsenal are fast starters but they remain vulnerable against teams that match their intensity. Once again, we conceded a hatful of chances within the first ten minutes because too many players weren’t switched on. Match them for 20 minutes, don’t concede, and then let our extra quality show.
As for Gravenberch, he was just a terrible signing by a club running out of ideas by the end of the window after missing out on the main target again. He won’t be sold this summer because our club doesn’t really do that, but he definitely should be.
Moving forward, Trent needs to move to midfield permanently now. Bradley has shown more defensive ability in his first few games for the club than Trent has shown in years. Trent has world class quality but he has no interest in defending anymore.
18.) 05 Feb 2024 17:17:06
Arsenal were fired up from the start and we weren’t fired up until the 2nd half. That’s just not right in a game of that magnitude.
Van Dijk as captain has to be doing more to address that once the game kicks off.
Gravenberch is the easy scape goat but for me MacAllister was the only one trying yesterday but he was just outnumbered.
The rest were really really poor. Diaz tried but didn’t beat White once. And Salah usually gives Zinchenko a torrid time but he got a pass yesterday.
Martinelli has Trent’s number every time we play them and Klopp should never allow that to happen again until Trent improves defensively. Sadly, that is the last time Klopp will play Arsenal as our manager and he didn’t learn from previous mistakes.
19.) 05 Feb 2024 18:20:28
"Secondly, why did we start poorly at The Emirates yet again? We know Arsenal are fast starters but they remain vulnerable against teams that match their intensity. Once again, we conceded a hatful of chances within the first ten minutes because too many players weren’t switched on. "
LoweLFC, you want to know something crazy? I saw a stat where it says that in the last 4 games we have played vs Arsenal in the PL, we concede to them in the fist 15 mins in each of those games. Now w that should tell you that there is something deeper going on with playing Arsenal recently. And based on this season, it has been a trend that we are finally getting rid of of late with teams we have played. Sadly, it rared its ugly head last night.
Earlier in the season, we were doing this BUT we would make changes, step it up in the second half or final 20 mins and boom, we win. At some point we were going to come unstuck and well, the Arsenal game was that game, IMO. We got to approach games better and faste and play and coach better, IMO. better overall.
19 Apr 2024 02:04:15
Don't lie Ron, we all know you love Nunez ;) .
12 Apr 2024 11:17:48
Many thanks Ed2. Have a good day.
12 Apr 2024 09:42:21
I don't want to see the back of him but I think a transfer is on the cards in the summer. Which, if true good luck to the lad, we move on.
Ed2, do you know of any interest in Diaz?
{Ed002's Note - Luis Diaz (LW) Could be surplus. His agent already has one player in the Saudi league and has been offering another high profile player he has - so he may well be looking at Diaz as well given Liverpool are well stocked in the position. Al-Hillal may offer a solution. Liverpool will likely resist a deal but could look to a deal with Barcelona if they are serious about Raphinha. Using him in part exchange for another may be possible. Thoughts that PSG want him as an Mbappe replacement seem wide of the mark to me given they have very clear targets already, but his agent has approached PSG - but no more than that. Father says he wants to move to Spain.}
31 Mar 2024 09:48:54
Random names are been pulled out of the hat now.
29 Mar 2024 01:26:31
IF it is true then good luck to him, only he will know what's best for him, if he chooses to stay at BL then it must be his right decision, we must respect that. Not what we wanted but it's not about us.
Only thing concerning me is I too, am not excited about any other manager incoming but we never know what the future may hold, it's not the end of the season yet. Let's just enjoy Klopp and this season.
19 Apr 2024 09:52:13
Usually I'd be in full agreement mate and good post by the way - one I wish I could be onboard with but the way I see it at the moment is you can't sugarcoat sh*t mate. The way we're playing is utterly shocking, we're embarrassing ourselves at this point and it's really getting on my nerves. They clearly aren't thinking about the fans who attend the matches, paying good money (I'm not one of them) . Klopp I love to death but for gods sake man, sort this sh*t show out. It's almost like he's given up, knowing he's off. No matter what he'll always be a legend in my eyes but this last period of his is doing him no favours. We all wish it was a fairytale ending but it's turning out to be a nightmare.
19 Apr 2024 09:31:05
That is what's concerning me dean, if we continue playing like this we won't win an arguement, imagine if we didn't get top 4? that'd be disastrous.
18 Apr 2024 17:38:36
AAR91, there's a method in my madness mate lol I'm always wrong so if I say we won't win it, we probably will :) - we can hope mate.
18 Apr 2024 13:39:17
Wishful thinking I'm afraid mate, we're not winning the league, we can hope but it's not happening and we all know it.
I just wish to Christ tactics would be changed but that's not going to happen. We're pretty doomed this season. Gutted but there's more important things in life. We move on.
18 Apr 2024 08:46:16
Going on how Bayern have been this season, that result did surprise me. RM and City was excellent to see, City just wasted too many chances, they should of won that game. Fantastic to see them go out on pens.