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13 Mar 2018 13:23:37
I hope we don't get Butland. Seems like a gigantic fee for a player in a relegation battle, I'd prefer the Roma lad.


1.) 13 Mar 2018 13:46:31
Butland proved last night why it would be a mistake to sign him.

2.) 13 Mar 2018 15:12:38
I would prefer none! Keep ward and play Karius. Save the money and buy a RB and LB!

3.) 13 Mar 2018 15:31:57
Do you not think Robertson is doing well enough? I don't see many goals we concede coming down his side. I think in this order

center midfield
attacking midfield/ cover front 3
center back
right back

don't think we can buy anymore.

4.) 13 Mar 2018 15:42:53
If we buy butland we simply haven't got a clue an going to b in same situation as we have been for 20 odd years, keepers who ain't up too it who will cost us points, can't believe it, hate too make references but Chelsea needed a keeper they bought, cech then courtois, man united bought de gea, man city got ederson, spurs lloris, we bought an then stuck wid mignolet, are we never going too learn!

5.) 13 Mar 2018 15:48:33
I don't think we need another LB harry mate? if so what do you want to happen to Robbo/ Moreno and who would you bring in?

6.) 13 Mar 2018 15:59:33
I'd have Karius over Butland every day of the week. The only reason i'd remove Karius from his No.1 spot is if an obvious upgrade was attainable e. g. Oblak or Alison, he's performed very well since being made undisputed No.1.

7.) 13 Mar 2018 16:56:51
Lovren, Moreno and Mignolet! 4 plus years and still nowhere good enough! Moreno can head back to Sevilla while Robertoskn can learn from a top class LB on how to provide width!
If you want to catch City and UTD next season you need one top drawer on each position! Else it’s another 20 points off from top spot!

8.) 13 Mar 2018 18:58:49
Butland is better than Karius imo.

9.) 13 Mar 2018 19:17:07
Butland is not better than Mignolet let alone Karius in my opinion.

10.) 13 Mar 2018 19:20:52
No, he is not Cobra, IMO. Butland is at Stoke for a reason and the reason he is being bigged up is cos He's English and may play in the WC cos well, England has NO GK's at the moment. Butland is not better than Karius' left hand (he's right handed) and is overrated, injury and error prone. He's a poor shot-stopper, does not command his area and is dire in the high line system, ALL the things Karius beats him at. Go watch the games he has played this season and see for example, how he cost Stoke all 3 points at LC. Had Karius done that, he would be run out of town right after the final whistle

The fact of the matter is that if you're going to get a GK right now, go get one who is miles ahead of Karius and NOT one who is not fit to carry his gloves, IMO.

11.) 13 Mar 2018 19:44:10
Butland has been average to poor since his injury.
I rated him before that.
Karius is on the up, Butland is not.

It’s a big gamble to go with Butland, not one worth taking on current form.

{Ed001's Note - he would not be cheap and picks up far too many injuries to be worth considering.}

12.) 13 Mar 2018 20:39:45
BRover is spot on Butland! He is no upgrade on Karius infact he is worse! Save the money.



07 Mar 2018 22:33:33
It's bad when the only team left in the competition I fear playing is Seville!
They've got some sort of voodoo over us I'd rather play Barcelona of 2009.


1.) 08 Mar 2018 03:14:32
People suddenly think we can rock up and beat Barcelona and bayern Munich but in reality the only decent side we have faced yet is seville, and your scared of them! I don't think we should be getting carried away yet. People have said we CAN win it but not many say we WILL win it. We have a chance but our rivals now get to this stage of ucl every year.

We have collapsed too many times this year for my liking. In fairness that hasn't happened since Vvd started playing but it still shows a weakness we have. We have been beaten 4 1 and 5 0 away from home by worse teams than juventus and Barcelona.

I think we can win it, we will have to be mentally strong and we may need a touch of luck along the way. We will certainly need some blistering performances from salah and co. We do have a decent midfield but are they great? Do we have the personnel for a truly great midfield? While I honestly don't like bad mouthing our players, even a little bit, I'm not 100% sure we have. I hope I'm wrong.

2.) 08 Mar 2018 05:46:06
Hahah we were thrashed by city and tottenham and you don't fear bayern, barca, madrid?
we will destroy sevilla if we draw then. God i hope we draw them.

3.) 08 Mar 2018 07:12:55
Have I missed Sevilla beating Utd in the second leg?

4.) 08 Mar 2018 09:12:27
You missed Sevilla's score draw against united in the second leg.

5.) 08 Mar 2018 09:22:49
As Liverpool its in our religion to believe united will loose their next match and vice-a-versa.

6.) 08 Mar 2018 10:42:29
We need to avoid Real at all costs. They seem to make it look easy in the big games when it's not.

7.) 08 Mar 2018 14:39:32
Yeah, I'd be real happy with seville. They're due a thrashing and we can introduce their striker to our new giant centre back.



21 Feb 2018 08:07:48
Wasn't impressed by Barca. This team isn't even close to the Barcelona of Pep. Possession football tika taka? Not joking I prefer the way we play, full on excitement. It would suit us down to the ground I think we'd of broke on them and scored 3 last night.


1.) 21 Feb 2018 08:29:43
If it was us playing them last night it wouldn't of been a draw, we'd of smashed them all over the pitch quite comfortably.

2.) 21 Feb 2018 08:36:04
They really have fallen haven't they. Iniesta, Messi, Rakitic and Suarez are some of their best players and they are all at the wrong end of their careers.

Pique and Busquets have a while left yet considering the way they play, Ter Stegen is okay, and Coutinho, Dembele and Sergi Roberto are obviously top players. So they still have a solid spine to be fair. I just think a lot of their players have become far too reliant on MSN in the last 3 years and now Suarez and Messi are the only two left, and not even close to the peak of their powers, the team seems to be dwindling a bit. They are very fortunate that Real Madrid are having similar problems on a bigger scale.

Spanish football is done with it's dominance, for me. They've had their decade of fun and they did make the most of it to be fair. I think English football is back though. Chelsea are the worst English side in the competition and they made the best Spanish side look insipid and average on the day, without even playing well. The likes of Real, Barca, Sevilla and Atletico will all still do very well in Europe because they're good sides, but i don't think their dominance will continue season on season, as it has done.

I can easily see 3 English sides in the semi finals this season, if the quarter final draw makes that possible.

I think Man United fans may be in for a shock tonight though. They all told us Sevilla are a bad team and we had an easy group, but that simply isn't true. On paper they aren't top opposition, but they seem to find an extra 10% in European competition. Man U should have enough to go through, but I'll be amazed if it's a stroll in the park, tonight in particular away from home!

{Ed001's Note - is Sergi Roberto a top player? He can't cross or pass, which are kind of important to being a top player imo.}

3.) 21 Feb 2018 08:45:24
I think he needs to be played in the right position Ed. He's no right back in my opinion, because he can't cross and he isn't good enough defensively.

In a box to box role, i think he's a very good player though. He seems to me like a better version of James Milner. Reliable, versatile, hard working, and with solid abilities if not spectacular. Perhaps he's just a level below top class, in hindsight. Still a great player to have though.

4.) 21 Feb 2018 09:16:35
Spanish football is done with their dominance? You do realise that Madrid are the current CL winners? I would hold off on your assumptions until the end of this season to see where we stand. I certainly wouldn't be writing them off. They are both in good positions to go into the quater finals. I can see one of them winning it still.

5.) 21 Feb 2018 09:23:44
MK Scouser, I agree that the Spanish dominance is over but I can see PSG taking at least one CL before the next team from England do it.

6.) 21 Feb 2018 09:51:02
Rover, the key term is "dominance". Spanish football teams have won 6 of the last 10 Champions Leagues, and 5 of the last 10 Europa leagues. 11/ 20 European trophies have gone to Spain.

I'm not saying they won't win any of the next 20, but i expect it'll be more like 4 or 5 out of 20, and not over 50%.

Italian teams have come back strong (Juventus, Inter, Napoli, Roma) and PSG and Monaco are now genuine super powers. Bayern have always been strong. Now we have 6 top sides in England too. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal won the Europa League and ne of the 5 English sides involved won the Champions League.

Spain still have 4 stand out great teams. They're just not the powerhouses' they have been for the last decade and that is largely because Messi and Ronaldo aren't scoring 60-90 goals a season anymore. They are still world class players in world Cass teams, but they're now at an age where their physical limitations have brought them down to a place much closer to everyone else's level.

Italy and England both had a decade in the European wilderness. France have not been serious threats since the great St Etienne teams, and Bayern have been struggling to cope with the decline of Robben and Ribery. There is a lot more competition now and the Spanish sides are not going to have it all their own way over the next decade, of that i am sure. The best managers in world football have all assembled in the Premier League and that is why i think English sides will have a similar amount of success that they had in the mid to late noughties. It's only really been Chelsea flying the English flag for the last 5 or 6 years and they still managed to win 2 European cups. Man U won one last year. The year before we went to a final. It's coming. I think an English team will win it this season, and I'm hoping it is us!

7.) 21 Feb 2018 09:53:40
Prem teams looking strong in CL this year. Think lfc really fancy it. Would love to play Barcelona at some point with little Phil watching from the stands 😁 Can def see Utd losing tonight too 😁.

8.) 21 Feb 2018 11:04:30
We won’t beat this Chelsea. Chelsea were excellent yesterday. Compact and positionally disciplined. Even Fabregas was brilliant in his defensive duties.
Barca started with a diamond and that is a joke against Chelsea. Barcelona had the same issue as Liverpool. No width and trying to sneak through the middle which was very easy for Chelsea to defend!

Paulinho is truly awful no wonder he was the best player in China. Busquets was beaten all ends by Willian who had a stellar. They had tons of possession ans chelea couldn’t give a toss about it. Happily sat back and hit on the counter. I just loved the way they mocked Barcelona yesterday. You can keep the ball and I don’t care!

We should have stolen Christiansen from Chelsea. What a brilliant player. He will be ruling this league in an year or two! How much did they pay for him?

9.) 21 Feb 2018 11:27:04
Watched them play last night for the first time since Valverde took over and was surprised with the slow, lethargic and unimaginative possession football. This team doesn't look close to Pep's teams or even Luis Enrique's, for that matter. Still too dependent on one magical moment from Messi or Suarez (and now more than ever, since Neymar is gone) . But they're doing well in their league, so

Sergi Roberto is just an above average utility player, as far as I can see. He does a few things above average, without really excelling in one particular area. Very much in the mold of multirole players Barcelona has had in the past like Adriano Correia and Edmilson.

10.) 21 Feb 2018 12:55:44
BD, are you Harry by any chance cos you sure sound like him, lauding Chelsea for parking the bus? Chelsea was excellent at doing what, exactly? Parking the buses and hoping that one or two shots go in? Not for me. That is the poorest Barcelona team I have seen for over 15 years (I've been watching them since 1991). They were slow, lethargic, and had no zip in their passes and movement. Chelsea were lacking confidence overall right now so I don't blame them for keeping it tight BUT come on, Barcelona were poor, hands down. Had they played us at Anfield and we performed like we did vs City, we would have beaten them just like we did City. How? We would have disrupted their slow passing nonsense and with the pace we have up top, those counters would have been WAY more lethal. I would fancy our chances vs that Barcelona side any day and we would not even need to park the bus to put 3 past them, IMO.

11.) 21 Feb 2018 12:59:37
That's funny Harry, cause we did already play that Chelsea team and we dominated them with them being ridiculously lucky with a fluke cross to even take a point.

12.) 21 Feb 2018 14:58:53
I think Sergio Roberto has been ruined at right back. I remember a few years ago, watching him in the centre of the pitch, passing was unreal in those games, thought I was looking at the next Alonso. But him playing RB seems to have had a negative effect on that part of him game.

Barca were very poor. Chelsea should of had 3 points really. They prepared to set up and respect Barcelona having the ball, countered well. Willian on another day could of had a hatrick. Rate him so much more than Hazard.

Barca only scored from a poor defensive error from Chelsea.

Also to highlight I don't think Barcelona expected Chelsea to have so much energy. They chased that ball so much i think something like 75% possesion to Barca. Thought Barcelona looked more tired than Chelsea and they have a winter break?

Was highlighted in the Porto v Redmen game. They struggled with the pace of Liverpool's game. I know it's different as we had the ball but still thought it was a interesting point to pick up on Chelsea coping with just chasing the ball for the majority of the game. I do like Barcelona and I'm not a fan of Chelsea at all, but watching the game last night felt Chelsea were robbed a little bit.

Just shows the Phil move wasn't as well thought out. No one last night looked like they would create something. Games like that for us Phil popped up. But he can't play. Thought Demebele would have injected some pace into the game, but never game on.

13.) 21 Feb 2018 15:15:35
Alistair, he's their problem now and no one really knows if he would have done any better cos he struggled vs parked buses while at LFC too.

14.) 21 Feb 2018 15:49:46
I have no issues with the style of our play. Chelsea played like their manager wanted them to play and it is the outcome that matters. What is he point in playing expensive football and gets beaten 5-0? There is a reason Barcelona looked cluelsss and you got to give Chelsea some credit. You seems damn confident of us beating almost all teams on the planet lol! I am not that confident mate.
Chelsea just cannot match Barcelona on quality and they did the right thing to sit back and not allow them any space to run into! Suarez had the fewest touches yesatday in the whole season. There wasn’t any space given for them to do their little one two’s. Chelsea got their tactics spot on ( it doesn't matter what tactic it is )
The poorest Barcelona are running away with the league without even a fight from anywhere!
We were beaten by Sevilla not once but three times in last 2 years.



06 Jan 2018 17:15:48
I think Barcelona have got a very good deal there. Dreading to find out who his replacement is I've lost all faith in the club when it comes to these big Signings.
Only a Dybala, Greizman, Suarez type player will fill that gap of quality lost.


1.) 06 Jan 2018 17:40:22
Agreed but the three examples you have given are all 0% chances, they are already at teams where they compete for top honours. I want the best players but we are not in a place where we can take established top notch players from champions league last 8 regulars.

2.) 06 Jan 2018 17:44:31
Obviously won't happen.

3.) 06 Jan 2018 18:31:58
Bloody heck mate, there ain't much hope of turning you around if your expectations are dybala, griezman and a washed up / crocked suarez!



03 Jan 2018 11:32:11
The question is has the Club learned it's lesson. I see we're still selling our best players which is astonishing seen as this approach hasn't worked for the past 25 years.
But when we sold Suarez we broke up a really good team, then bought loads of £20m players over the pitch and wasted the lot. Dumped out of the Champions League and we've not got back in until now.
So then we do it again!
selling coutinho in my opinion is stupid in January, but it's happening anyway, but I hope we spend the £130m on an equally as good player. Time will tell.


1.) 03 Jan 2018 12:08:53
The difference is we have a top manager who replaces them with great players who want to be here.
This isn't Benitez buying Nunez ngog voronin. It's also not Roy buying Joe Cole, poulsen and konchesky. Like size Kenny buying Carrol downing Charlie adam. Or even Rodgers buying assaidi, borini or Joe allen. Klopp hasn't bought one bad player yet. He's worst would of been caulker, which he only got on a loan.
He is being backed by the board, and I also back him to get a replacement. We are actually getting people other clubs want 😂
Please step of the party bus phillipe, we got a journey to continue, !

2.) 03 Jan 2018 12:09:25
I agree mate. If we sell Coutinho and then replace him with Ceballos, Rafinha and Meyer i think we just make ourselves worse as a team. I'd sign one of the 3 above just to cover ourselves for the second half of the season (because Can might not be motivated, Gini is playing poorly, and Henderson might not play again this season in my opinion), but then we need to go put and splash out on a proper direct replacement. A player like Lemar, Asensio, Dybala, Insigne etc. You can't replace your third best player with somebody else's squad player.

3.) 03 Jan 2018 12:08:13
Some people really should get over it and he's not the best player, I am.

This situation is different to the Suarez one. We haven't gone and got a load of 20m players, in case you didn't see the recent news mate we went and signed VVD for 75m. We've also got Keita incoming who is top quality and that's just the beginning, I still think we'll get somebody else this window. Have we learnt our lesson? Yeah I think so.

4.) 03 Jan 2018 12:14:38
Last time was a mistake for all the reasons you mentioned, spreading it around too thin and changing our system completely while failing to identify a Suarez replacement.

We don’t rely on Coutinho nearly as much IMO, especially since we brought in Salah allowing Mane to cover LW, but agree it’s still important we spend on quality rather than spreading it around.

I suspect Klopp will get that though based on his recent track record bringing in the likes of Mane, Salah, VVD and Keita rather than spending on lots of medium cost players with ‘potential’.

5.) 03 Jan 2018 15:38:12
OP, so what do you want the club and Klopp to do then? Keep a player against his will and him screwing up the DR just to prove a pointless point that we are not a selling club? Pls, come off it, man. The club HAS indeed learnt it's lesson and has made sure that we have a top manager who is getting the best deal for Cou and looking to top players to fill the void. BR, KK, Woy and the others spent money on complete dross for the most part BUT that is not going to happen now, thankfully. We have a manager who is getting it done in the TW and getting players who reject better clubs to play for us. I don't see your point, mate.

6.) 03 Jan 2018 15:38:13
Spot on Benny baller.

7.) 03 Jan 2018 17:15:19
Twice in a week i agree with benny, what in sam hill is going on. Its not the same thing at all, coutinho is a very good player but definately not irreplaceable, i would however put salah in the irreplaceable category atm.

I don't know if it has escaped the op's attention but we splashed 40m on salah, 69m on Nobby and 75m on Van tranny. I would say the lesson is being heeded wouldn't you.

With regard to the cellabos, meyer stuff that mk was on about those players will not be replacements for coutinho they will be for the outgoing Can and possibly henderson if indeed we are even actually interested in them.

8.) 03 Jan 2018 18:11:41
I don't think the clubs strategy for 25 years has been to sell its best players has it? don't ya rekon we'd keep these guys if we could? Only so long you can keep someone who don't wanna be here.




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17 Mar 2018 22:44:49
The entire kop needs to learn it. It's only half potential at the minute.




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16 Mar 2018 17:41:55
We're going to smash them! Who the hell are Man City.
We are European Royalty. Anfield will frighten the life outa them again.




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16 Mar 2018 17:40:08
We need to really create an atmosphere at Anfield like I'm sure we will. We need to boo every City touch and whilstle like we did in the league. Really get under them.
Then we need to Get on the City website and buy all their home Tickets soon as they come on sale.
We'll turn that place red and play 2 home fixtures.




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14 Mar 2018 22:38:21
Because Seville don't wanna pay Everton £10 for parking on goodison ha.




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12 Mar 2018 08:03:49
He played so so poor. He should be chomping at the bit to put in a good performance. Major set back for the young guy, hope he puts it right next time out because that was absolutely shocking on Saturday.
Really hope he sorts it out vs Watford if he's not been dropped.