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12 Oct 2026 10:31:42
I will be surprised if we don't go in for Scott.

If by the end of the season Wirtz does not improve tremendously, then we should cut out losses. Some players just do not fit in to your team and you need to accept that in as much as you want them to do well.

I will be talking to Bayern to see if a deal can be done either for a swap with Olise or an outright sale. We can add Frimpong too.

12 Oct 2026 11:14:23
You will be talking to Bayern? Are you Julian Ward by any chance?

12 Oct 2026 11:16:31
I will say it differently.
I don't think Wirtz improves Bayern in any way.
They have a great team, ran PSG close last season in the CL but were weak defensively.
When Wirtz played at Leverkusen against us, he never stood out.
Last summer was possibly the worst scouting and recruitment the club has ever seen, and I was around for the Diouf, Pongolle, Babb, Ruddock, Eric Meier, Aquilsni times.
Wirtz - Bang Average at best
Kerkez- Shocking and I always wanted us to avoid, I said he was a headless chicken and he has proved me right.


Frimpong- Simply not a defender
Isak- I had big hopes for and he is a great finisher, but not suited to our team
Ekitike- Ou Rd best buy by far, but got a shocking bad injury and I now fear he will never be the same.
We have a mountain to climb to be competitive again and we are shockingly weak in midfield.
Will take 2-3 windows at least.

12 Oct 2026 11:58:38
What did Kerkez do wrong last night?

12 Oct 2026 12:36:25
I didn't mention last night but I could point out a plethora of other games where he consistently weakens our team with his defensive weaknesses.

12 Oct 2026 13:18:13
Kerkez is not in the category of a bad buy and neither is Isak. Wirtz and Frimpong I agree with but let's not start to get carried away doom mongering. This seasons tranfers have been fine once Bradley adjusts. Our problem is we over paid and in the case of Wirtz and Frimpong bought the wrong players.

12 Oct 2026 14:29:29
Kerkez delivery into the box is consistently very poor. Defensively he looks slightly better this season, only slightly.

12 Oct 2026 15:20:04
I don't think Wirtz is the wrong player rather the players around him are playing wrong!

12 Oct 2026 15:23:32
Well considering we had three clean sheets before last night and Kerkez is an integral part of that back 4, I'd say that his defensive weaknesses haven't been too exposed this year, or am I just hallucinating?

12 Oct 2026 15:28:46
The whole ten of them Sanjit? is it the other players making the ball bounce ten yards off him? He needs to do better. its hard his confidence must be low but he's got to find a way or he won't be at the club much longer.

12 Oct 2026 16:33:33
I agree, Sanjit, we should sell everyone and keep Wirtz. Or was your post said with irony?

12 Oct 2026 17:25:32
It's always someone else's issue except Wirtz isn't it? Of course it is!! I posted yesterday prior to ko that this was a perfect opportunity for FW to show his worth. Step up to the plate! Then someone replied that he couldn't because Gravenberch was taking his positions on the field of play. It looked to me that RG stepped up and FW shrunk. I've said all along that I'm willing to give him until the end of the season but it's looking increasingly obvious that Wirtz is absolutely not the 'generational talent' he was applauded as being.

And I'm with shughes. Kerkez is not a good LB and as I've said before there's just a mistake in him each game. He's just unreliable just like Isak but for different reasons. We cannot compete with unreliable players. The 3 of those plus our choice of replacing TAA with Frimpong has been a complete waste of 300 odd big ones but I'll still wait until next May in case something miraculous happens to them between now and then.

12 Oct 2026 17:30:14
Kerkez is a headless chicken, goes to the floor way to quickly, goes diving in when it isn't needed, has no idea how to play with the winger in front of him be it Gakpo, ngumoa, barcola and he can't cross. He's a liability. If Wirtz had passed instead of shooting, Kerkez would have taken the chance off Barcola and missed anyway.

And not sure jumping up and down waving his hands in the air will help Wirtz already blown confidence. Slight chance he still comes good but doesn't look like he has the ability to learn so I think what we see now is what we get.

12 Oct 2026 19:54:31
We are a team of great individuals. The collectivism Andoni speaks of is going to take some time to implement.
How long did it take Jurgen?

For me, Wirtz is suffering with a confidence issue - indecision has crept in. When Eki was playing, they had a great synergy developing.

12 Oct 2026 20:10:57
I do genuinely think, currently there are five better teams than us at least. I think we will miss out on champs league and I'm not sure what that means for AI. It's not really his fault. He has a lot of work to do and will need a good few windows. I wonder how many more windows we will go before we replace Fabinho lol.
On a positive note yesterday, I know people were giving off about Barcola but I saw him back defending a few times, I didn't expect that if I am honest.

I like Koumas but he's not a striker, and he is a bit of a headless chicken similar to Kerkez, but Kerkez more likely to make mistakes or get sent off. Frimpong a disaster and the midfield needs looked at.
I personally don't know what Wirtz is or what he is meant to do, but he isn't doing whatever we bought him for. He looks really really really basic and his performances are starting to affect the rest of the team I think. He needs to be dropped.

12 Oct 2026 22:19:25
Inbeta: What 5 teams (at least) are better than us? I'm guessing City & Arsenal take 2 spots but be genuinely interested in hearing who you think the other 3 are (and any others)

12 Oct 2026 23:14:15
I don't see Wirtz as the problem. The real issue is that our players aren't finishing the chances he creates. On top of that, he works incredibly hard off the ball and contributes a lot to our pressing.

I think we should stop criticizing him and give him time. The constant injuries to our attackers haven't helped either.

Remember when Wirtz and Ekitike were playing together consistently? They started building chemistry, and we looked like a much better team.

I'm confident Wirtz will come good soon. We just need to be patient and trust him.

11 Oct 2026 22:17:22
Let's be all entirely honest.
Every single one of us would swap wirtz with Bellingham. So you can't entirely protect a player that we know could be upgraded.
Reasons may vary. Judes a very good player at real at best. His club form is different from his England form.
However, you're at least getting a no 10 in bellingham who also can actually play like a third midfielder due to his athleticism, pace and physicality.

Then you're adding in some goals and assists. We're getting nothing out of this lad for what should be expected. He's on over 300k a week .
I think wirtz and Liverpool may have been a bad match up. The lad may proper at bayern next season.

11 Oct 2026 22:29:51
I just think the recruitment in general over last couple of years has been awful. The sh*t fullbacks, the injury prone forward who doesn't work, the failure to sign a DM. The failure to replace Salah's goals. The failure to recruit an elite manager. We will end up where we end up this season. Right now, it looks like some of the teams that are above us, might just stay above us this season.

I completely agree with you regarding Wirtz. He is not suited to the league nor the team. I think it's time for him to move on. He has not made any impact over the last season and a half, and hasn't improved either. I'd say he probably wants to go as well. Doesn't look happy.

{Ed666's Note - Richard Hughes is arguably the worst sporting director in football history. Im incredulous at his legacy.

11 Oct 2026 23:17:37
Why are we talking about Jude Bellingham?

12 Oct 2026 00:49:04
Wirtz is sat on 200kpw so no idea where the 300k comes from. If you watched him for Bayer or Germany you will see he has two midfielders behind who do all the work allowing him todo is thing. At Bayer he was a left 10 drifting in the pockets or to the left and with Germany he plays similar.

Last season when we played fast football in a couple of games he was brilliant. The thing is as Carragher pointed out he is a luxury player we never needed.

12 Oct 2026 01:38:47
I don't think he is elite
There are so many better players out there that produce consistently better displays than this lad.
A terrible buy for the club, let's hope Bayern want him next summer.

{Ed666's Note - I’m not sure his family will want him if he keeps playing like this let alone Bayern Munich.

12 Oct 2026 06:27:49
It could of ended up so different as we were initially after cherki and city Wirtz.

12 Oct 2026 07:05:58
Anyone got confidence that Julian Ward will fix this? Because I'm seriously doubting it. Our recruitment strategy and i'd talent has looked woeful. I'm expecting some more dud signings in the future but perhaps at a lower cost than what Hughes was getting.

12 Oct 2026 07:30:32
Edwards was making almost all of the big transfer decisions, Hughes was his negotiator.

Hughes chose a couple of players at best, and even Frimpong was bought just to ease the Wirtz deal along.

12 Oct 2026 09:06:47
Bellinghams name even been mentioned is a waste of time. We have a top manager. Cant be called elite because he hasn't won anything yet but he is a top top manager. We will get Chamions League football which will be his remit. Anything more than that would be a massive bonus.

We lost at home with half a team to for me the best team in the league this season. Dont see the need for panic. Oeople just need to manage their expectations which is why I said all summer I would take 5th.

12 Oct 2026 09:32:51
I'd swap Wirtz for Cherki, odegard, palmer, fernandes. Basically any other 10 for any of the top teams. Seen enough now to know he hasn't got the mentality to succeed - his confidence is shot but he is scared of taking any ownership of a game. Not knee jerk but should be sold to Bayern in next window if they will have him.

12 Oct 2026 11:01:59
Odegaard, Palmer and Fernandez is not even close to Wirtz, but the most on here knows as much on tactics as Carra and Neville, thank God Iraola doesn't listen to you guys.
Tha team needs backing right now not bashing.

Come Christmas we will be a lot better, and you will all feel a lot better if you also supported the team during the learning period. I bet some you bashers will have too eat some humble pie later in the year.

{Ed025's Note - which Christmas do you think that will be JC?..

12 Oct 2026 12:18:21
Red-JC, And yet every single one of those players have all got far better stats in the Prem than Wirtz, so how does that work?

As a Liverpool fan I hate complimenting them, but Fernandes is leagues above Wirtz, he's arguably the best goal-scoring midfielder the Prem has seen in the last decade. Nobody puts up the numbers he does, he's in Lampard territory, an absolute cretin of a human but an excellent footballer, Wirtz couldn't lace his boots at the moment.

The likes of Palmer and Odegard might not have the same finesse or natural ability as Wirtz but what they do have, they can actually apply, something Wirtz isn't doing at the moment, he doesn't look like he could do it in a 5-a-side right now never mind the Prem.

Now I'm not a Wirtz basher at all, but it's time for him to step up, he needs to start performing, he looks like a lamb in a lions den out there.

12 Oct 2026 12:32:11
Stats is for TV og commentators, you cannot build an opinion on that solely. Fernandez gave so many balls away at Chelsea, scoring a goal once a wile doesn't make up for that. I did not say he was a bad player, but take Anderson out, who covers for him constantly and he would be a fart.
We doesn't have a player like that at the moment, so Wirtz will sometimes look like juggling with danger.

He is allowed to take chances or else it would just be Slot all over again.
And stats will never show how good he is at tuning into free areas and doesn't get the pass. Stats is only for goals and chances created. How many chances did Fernandez create yesterday?

12 Oct 2026 14:20:33
Ed Damien Conmoli would prefer if you don't hand out his awards to anyone else. He earned that worst sporting director award fair and square.

{Ed666's Note - ha ha… commoli signed suarez and Henderson..arguably two of the greatest Liverpool players ever. Nope Hughes still has the accolade for me.

12 Oct 2026 15:01:35
We're actually back to a Bridge level. We've gone so far backwards.
Wirtz is the biggest disappointment since Star Wars and our squad is as harmonious as central London. Every decision maker above Andoni needs to be shown the door.

12 Oct 2026 20:17:53
The Wirtz Bashers is a good name for a band.

11 Oct 2026 12:22:52
Hey guys I'm seeing rumours szobo and mac ain't available please don't tell me this is true.

11 Oct 2026 13:21:46
Rumour was posted by a blke called Keefe Irwin on x along with a video that doesn't show the pair arriving with the rest of the squad at the hotel this morning, lots of other players arrived separately or weren't seen in the video, I wouldn't take anything from it just yet if that's all the evidence they have.

11 Oct 2026 13:24:07
Not true.

11 Oct 2026 14:22:10
Fair enough. I do find it strange szobo would be out for this. it would of had to be a real emergency for him to miss this one.

11 Oct 2026 15:26:51
Mac is in
No Szob in the squad.

11 Oct 2026 15:27:35
Dom has a slight niggle but Mac is fine and playing.

11 Oct 2026 19:28:25
Hopefully Wirtz does his hammie next. Can't watch another one of his "performances" literally an embarrassment of a signing. Before everyone jumps in, what has Wirtz done? Answer me honestly, what has he done in our team and when can we expect him to be good? He is not good.

11 Oct 2026 21:16:03
Since when did you'll never walk alone change into you'll never walk again? I missed that.

{Ed666's Note - I see what you did there baker. Brilliant mate 🤣😁

11 Oct 2026 22:32:51
If you criticise a player who has been terrible for his whole time at the club, then you are not a true fan. Blah blah blah, I get it. And I mustn't be a true fan because I think Wirtz is terrible.

11 Oct 2026 22:50:45
I wouldn't call myself a true fan in beta, I'm loosing interest to be honest and I criticize plenty of our players. I've been thoroughly underwhelmed with wirtz too, I had really high hopes for him. I wouldn't wish him a possibly career ending injury though.

12 Oct 2026 08:10:28
I've no confidence in Wirtz, he just hasn't got the X factor we need from him, it's missing and if it hasn't appeared in eighteen months it won't appear at all.

Same goes for the other players we keep on waiting for sadly. Even though with some of the others it's partly due to injuries rather than mentality and capability. Connor being another one well wait for ever for.

Great players produce fairly quickly, and very consistently. We're miles off having a very good team, never mind a great one right now.

08 Oct 2026 19:28:57
per @CLMerlo: Despite rumours, there is no official offer from Liverpool for Gilberto Mora.

10 Oct 2026 05:10:43
He sounds like a perfect Borussia Dortmund signing to be honest.

10 Oct 2026 22:29:45
He looks pretty good in the YouTube videos. Dribbling, trickery, speed, final ball.

And, yes. We need another left sided attacker.

11 Oct 2026 03:00:10
What's the criteria for 'a perfect Borussia Dortmund signing'? Does he have a pen and can write his name?

{Ed666's Note - what the last worldie they produced after Haaland and Rude Bellingham?

12 Oct 2026 03:19:39
WDW I've - young, bags of potential, raw but with a potential high ceiling that can be developed and sold on at a future date to a club with bags of money - hope that helps - they have rinsed and repeated this a fair few times!

12 Oct 2026 03:35:12
Same as Brighton or Bournemouth?

08 Oct 2026 15:24:25
Hi all,

Liverpool remain in pole position to sign Michael Olise this summer. The player feels his time at Bayern is naturally coming to a conclusion and is weighing his options in the event of a departure.

Extensive groundwork laid by ourselves has placed us high in his thinking as the natural successor to Salah.

08 Oct 2026 15:49:41
Let's get that private jet we used for mbappe fuelled up again.

08 Oct 2026 15:53:55
Thanks VG.

08 Oct 2026 16:58:43
Nice one VG.

08 Oct 2026 17:04:44
Until city, Chelsea, Madrid get a whiff of interest of him moving then we'll be looking elsewhere.

08 Oct 2026 17:24:08
What do you think will happen to Wirtz? unless he starts putting in some numbers and not just effort it could make sense to try make him part of the deal and go 433.

08 Oct 2026 17:50:50
We're about to possibly get Olise, and you want to talk about Wirtz. my word.

08 Oct 2026 18:34:40
Good news VG! That'd be a significant signing. Barcola Ekiteke Olise! The France forward line!

08 Oct 2026 19:13:35
Cheers VG, I noted that ITK space posted something similar last night and said we've fine some substantial groundwork but also that PSG and Real Madrid are interested. as were City but he's distanced himself from them and they walked away.

Be interesting to see how this plays out.

08 Oct 2026 20:26:57
Viva la France, if carries on like this we will have half the French team

Cheers vg.

08 Oct 2026 20:45:34
Thanks VG, I just have a bad feeling about this potential signing. I can't see it working out personally.

{Ed666's Note - Yes I can see how signing the best player on the planet gives you a bad feeling MOT. Good Lord I remember us signing the likes of Charlie Adam & Stewart Downing I never thought I’d see the day when Liverpool fans would complain about procuring one of the worlds premier soccer players.

08 Oct 2026 20:53:10
Is this not exactly what ITK/Bayern Space said?

{Ed666's Note - more than one ITK can have the same exclusive info no?

08 Oct 2026 22:15:30
He's great, but is his game suited to the hustle of the prem, which is becoming less popular with players because it is so physical?
Id rather have Minteh's graft.

08 Oct 2026 22:31:50
JLC, what's the issue? Bayern were dead set on Wirtz, apparently, they are still very keen. Obviously, a swap deal would be a valid option, especially if he continues to struggle. I completely agree with Letstalkabout6baby's post, if Wirtz can't assimilate within 2 years then he's not cut out for the league, ship him off while he still has some value to a keen buyer and reduce the cost of a fantastic signing, it's not just valid, it's the best option should his lack of form continue.

08 Oct 2026 22:41:23
Magic, are you saying City are a likely destination? More chance he goes to Everton.

08 Oct 2026 23:04:20
Minteh's graft sounds like a skin condition.

08 Oct 2026 23:33:59
Any man that believes Minteh is a better option than Olise doesn't watch the same game I watch, one of the most deluded statements I have ever read on here, I'm so glad you don't work for the clubs recruitment team.

09 Oct 2026 01:57:53
I like the idea that Olive is great but might not be suited to the PL. Either a player is great or he isn't. If he can't play in the PL then he isn't good, never mind great, imho.

09 Oct 2026 05:28:47
I hope you guys who say he may not be suited to EPL etc is aware that he played for Palace a few years before and was actually decent which earn him his move to Bayern.

He would be a nice replacement for Salah on the right. Hopefully we really see movement in the summer. With Real also sniffing around, I think it would not be easy.

09 Oct 2026 05:44:07
Exactly Bob, played great for Pslace, well suited to the prem, bags of pace, can score plenty too, better than Semenyo who I rate massively
This would be a Bobby dazzler signing but I imagine he will have other suitors.
Real maybe not, they now have the Roc Nation show in the squad, City have Semenyo who is excellent, Barca couldn't afford him, Arsenal have Saka so I think taking Salah place in our squad would be attractive to him.


Chelsea I would say might be our biggest rival (the next serial cheats)

09 Oct 2026 06:46:10
Any excuse or opportunity to beat Wirtz with a stick is becoming rather tiresome Chewy.

Whatever happened to giving players every opportunity to succeed?

If it doesn't work out, then so be it, but to have a go at him at any opportunity is pointless.

09 Oct 2026 07:38:35
This is about balance. Having too many skilful, vanilla players 'might' serve us well in the CL, although the Prem is another thing.
Minteh's work rate would create space and opportunities for the players we already have, who are yet to find their best form.
We've seen this kind of squad building at various times over the years, and it rarely ever works (unless dominating the CL is the aim).

Barcola, Wirtz and Isak may all be deemed flops within a year. There would be a reason for that. Does no one else see that potentially, these type of players do not fit into a side that is known to press from the front?

09 Oct 2026 08:01:13
Let's see if once again time proves his greatest aly.

09 Oct 2026 09:49:53
Isak is a bad decision signing TWD. Perhaps that already qualifies him as a flop?! Good striker when fit and firing but unfortunately it's rarely that he's fit and firing. I'd be selling him at the first opportunity I would get, at a big loss obviously, but I would purchase somebody reliable who is able to get on the bloody pitch regularly and put a few in the net.

We'll be lucky to see a dozen goals out of him in the PL this season or any season for that matter. Anyway just my opinion. I'm more concerned that Gakpo is not available for City rather than Isak.

09 Oct 2026 11:04:08
Cheers, VG.

While a wonderful player, I would prefer Minteh on the RW. That might sound ridiculous, but we are imbalanced enough as it is.

On Isak, I don't think we should catastrophise his injury at this moment. He has a thigh strain. That is all it is right now.

09 Oct 2026 12:07:41
How is speculating that a player who's struggled massively to find form in the PL may be a good option in a swap deal with a club who's keen on signing him "beating him with a stick"? Save you dramatics for a most suitable thread will you.

09 Oct 2026 12:55:16
The_thin_white_duke. Labelling Olise "vanilla" whilst arguing Minteh's case is hilarious, when one of them is the most creative player in his league and the other just runs back and forth all day to no avail, producing nothing.

I really do wish people would stop pretending every single goal-scoring opportunity comes directly from winning the ball back inside the final third, it's like a cult; we scored just 6 league goals from turnovers in 'advanced' positions during Klop's title-winning season.

Anybody who thinks Minteh is going to be more productive than Olise should stick to watching gameshows.

09 Oct 2026 12:38:59
I was going to make a joke, but Rigsby has rendered all others essentially redundant with that pearl.

I'd be very happy with Olise personally, but I'm curious about Ed001s position on him? I gather it is not overly favourable but if I may ask, why?

From where I'm sitting he has great pace and technique, a proper wand of a left foot. I can't say I've seen a huge amount of him at Bayern, only in the Champions League, but I saw a lot of him at Palace and was genuinely miffed that we weren't in for him when he moved to Bayern.

{Ed001's Note - he is lazy. They carry him when defending. You can't do that in the Prem.

09 Oct 2026 13:49:25
Salah was a good presser but poor at effectively tracking back, this was a warranted trade-off for Klopp, if you made Salah track back every time we lost the ball, you'd lose a huge amount of his effectiveness through the pace he provided in the counterattack. One of the keys to Salah's success was the speed at which we got the ball to him, giving him that extra advantage of catching defenders on the back foot, we saw what happened to him when we stopped doing that under Slot, with the slow progression, defenders were settled by the time he got the ball and he really struggled with taking on his man.

Not everybody needs to be an exceptional defender, so long as the manager knows how to get the best out of each player and how they fit the system, I think Olise is playing just how the manager wants him to, I don't see Kompany complaining. Personally I don't mind leaving the RB a little exposed if the trade-off is 40-odd goal contributions a season, Araujo's a big boy.

{Ed666's Note - Salah tracked back for Klopp it’s only when got much older he waned in that department

09 Oct 2026 14:15:36
Yeah he's better in a slower paced league. Not the prem.

09 Oct 2026 13:34:04
Thanks Ed001 that is my concern I don't think he is the right fit for us. I also think he is overrated and far from the best player on the world as ed666 states but each to their own.

09 Oct 2026 14:48:17
Pipedream am afraid. Olise currently earns around 300 000 € a week and Bayern are offering him north of 500 000 € a week to sign a new deal. Unless he is secretly a Liverpool fan he will probably never play for us.

09 Oct 2026 15:43:31
I think he may have bigger ambitions than an endless string of effortless Bundsliga title wins SlotsBarber, given he came up through the youth ranks in England, I would imagine that the Premier League title is very much on his agenda now, hopefully he isn't swayed by the money, only time will tell.

09 Oct 2026 16:05:59
Cheers Chewey 👊.

09 Oct 2026 14:47:54
As soon as Ed speaks the wafflers pipe down.
Olise is not what we need, he is a Real player.
I would bet that Andoni would also prefer Minteh, or a similar player.
You need graft in this league, as peak Klopp LFC and Arsenal have proven.

09 Oct 2026 17:12:28
Waffle is claiming Iraola would prefer a player who managed 7 goal contributions last season over a player who got 53.

09 Oct 2026 17:15:20
Nonsense
Olise was very good and still learning in the prem, do good he got a move to a European giant.
He has been exceptional in the Bundesliga, ok agree it's not s strong as the prem.
He has been very good on the European stage too.
The guy is a baller man!!

09 Oct 2026 18:08:44
Minteh is a better option than Olise..I've seen it all. When our attack still looks unthreatening because we signed Minteh, I will come back to this.

09 Oct 2026 18:11:56
I remember some proper clangers arriving in some dark days.

Jovanovic
Wilson
Serbian winger kid
Aqualani
Kyiagkos


Many many more and ignore spelling! I too am delighted to see us shopping at the top tier of the ladder.

The key will be making it all work but I do believe in AI to get the squad to work over 3-4 windows.

09 Oct 2026 21:26:48
shanklys ghost - I am of the opinion that Isak and Barcola will be deemed a floip by the time their time is up. The time to buy Barcola was when PSH bought him. I don't see the tools for this league.

Wirtz can come good, if he can play the bobby role but we need to balance out big names and flair with some grit and pressing.

10 Oct 2026 02:06:37
Wirtz won't come good he will be at Bayern, or somewhere in Spain within the next 4 windows
Barcola has all the attributes to do well as a winger in the prem, he is better on the left wing, rather than the right where we are currently playing him.
Needs time to settle.

10 Oct 2026 09:57:46
If we were going to go for him we should have done so when he left Palace.
Now he's going to cost 3 times as much and very unlikely he will able to repeat his German League form back in the Prem again.

10 Oct 2026 18:51:07
A lot of things can be true at the same time:

- Olise was good at Palace, despite having Roy as coach.

- Olise will cost too much for us. I see him moving to Man United or Spain.

- Wirtz has been pants so far. He has potential, but he is no Kroos, David Silva, or KDB. I just have not seen a single "No one else would have thought of that" through ball from him. As it stands, I would put Wirtz in the Nigel Clough camp: nice to watch, but not a proper baller.

Please all remind me of this idiotic post once Wirtz starts cutting the mustard.

11 Oct 2026 21:59:04
From what I've read BM want Wirtz bad. They tried to get him before he chose to come to us. There is no way that BM can afford to splash out anywhere near we did for Wirtz so a swap deal Olise for Wirtz makes sense for both parties.

06 Oct 2026 20:06:50
Also some scuttlebutt this week about LFC being interested in Fulham's CM Josh King (19).

07 Oct 2026 08:15:39
Really like this kid. Really direct an pacy.

07 Oct 2026 09:30:37
Looks a good prospect from the games I've seen him play.

07 Oct 2026 10:01:47
Does have a clause we can take advantage of?

Otherwise this is smelling like another $100mil.

07 Oct 2026 12:28:49
He's dynamite this kid. Been really impressed with him.

Not sure where he would fit for us though.

06 Oct 2026 19:41:42
Any of the ITK's know anything about a reported 50M offer from LFC to Tijuana for 18 year old Gilberto Mora?

06 Oct 2026 19:48:17
Yeah pretty certain the £50m was right, Mora less.

06 Oct 2026 20:08:44
Not a chance they'd take a 50m punt on an unproven player, is there?
are we now entering the Real phase of signings?

{Ed666's Note - we did it with Andy Carroll.

06 Oct 2026 21:36:58
How many games had Jacquet played before we spent more than that on him?

Or the (up to, minimal up front) we paid for an 18yo GK?

06 Oct 2026 21:51:44
*£30m.

06 Oct 2026 22:55:40
There was conjecture that we were interested when he looked good in the World Cup but most of us were fascinated by the Diomande circus at the time.

07 Oct 2026 07:51:42
He's a quality youngster. I hope its true and the reported 35-40m isn't so expensive with current inflation of prices.

07 Oct 2026 07:56:13
He is quite good in FM26 to be honest.

07 Oct 2026 08:27:53
When moon the moon hits your eye
Like a bid pizza pie that's a mora.

07 Oct 2026 12:27:46
Good little player. Not sure Premier League is ideal for his size and stature. Surely La Liga would be his preference.

07 Oct 2026 20:06:34
I don't mean to blow my own trumpet but I reckon £50m would be enough to persuade Herb Alpert to sell him to us.
He's not the only Gilberto we are looking at either. We've also shown an interest in Gilberto Sullivan. But funds are tight and we might need a loan again, naturally.

07 Oct 2026 20:34:15
😀😀😀 Nice one @Rigsby - I'm definitely in the 'of a certain age" bracket.

05 Oct 2026 18:47:48
Just for something a bit different.
With vvd contract ending this season. What's everyone's thoughts? For me he is still one of best cb's in prem. But if he will only sign if he gets a pay rise then sadly It's time to go. If he wants 2 year deal then it has to be reduced wages and bigger bonuses for appearances.

05 Oct 2026 18:54:38
I'd be fairly confident that even Virg knows he's not getting a pay rise unless he goes to Saudi/USA. He's nearly 35, and probably our highest earner.

On current form, it's worth extending season by season, but I'm not sure he'll stay. Another one who has paid back his transfer fee and then some, when he eventually goes it'll be with everyone's admiration and best wishes.

05 Oct 2026 19:06:00
I personally don't care if his salary stays the same. Happy to let the club make the call on that.

05 Oct 2026 19:14:04
I agree with most of that. But if reports of real looking at him on a free transfer are true, and his form this season is good. I would be shocked if they didn't offer him more than he's getting now.

05 Oct 2026 19:40:33
One last big contract, or adding more to the legacy. He's already our GOAT CB and in the best Prem/UK league team of all time.
The new ownership will want to keep him, and perhaps be willing to push the boat out more than FSG.

05 Oct 2026 20:33:47
Form has been fantastic but I really want to see the armband move on. Great servant to the club and nothing but gratitude, if he wants to stay on reasonable terms then great. If he wants to leave then thank you for what you did for the club.

05 Oct 2026 21:23:25
With Van Dijk, and Alisson to a certain extent, I think we need to see how they perform until January. Both have had drops in performance / availability that need to be considered.

With Van Dijk, a lot of that could have stemed from Slot's demands of the defenders, which seemed to be to drop and not engage the opposition players. A mad tactical decision, but not something Slot ever seemed upset by in interviews or press conferences, it appeared very much by design.

Van Dijk has a strong and consistent partner in Jacquet now, and there is still hope in Leoni. Van Dijk would be an excellent role model to both. And, if he can maintain his performances so far this season, it is a no brainer, for me. However, last season, his drop off of performance (And, especially leadership) was a major, major concern, and certainly not all down to Slot.

Alisson, for me, I am undecided. Incredible on his day, but I have never seen a Goalkeeper pick up so many injuries for such innocuous things. He is fit half the season, and many, myself included, are counting down the days till he gets injured again. Because, it is not a question of if, anymore, but a question of when. The lay offs are significant also, something is not right with him at this stage in his career.

05 Oct 2026 21:47:54
Give him another year 💯.

05 Oct 2026 22:15:46
As it stands I'd have no hesitation in offering him extension. Outstanding player, the best cb I've ever seen.

05 Oct 2026 22:16:07
I really hope he stays. He looks back to normal this season and that's been a big reason why the whole defensive unit has looked solid so far.

He is not as fast as he once was, sure, but he isn't slow as far as centre backs go. He is also one of only 3 players from the original mentality monsters. As long as he can play at this level twice per week we should be doing everything in our power to keep him and his experience in the building.

What's more we have a signed two young CBs in Jacquet and Leoni who will only benefit from having him present for the next couple of years imo. Jacquet already looks like Van Dijks heir, Leoni will likely need more time before we can be sure, but he looked good in Italy and the tiny taste we did get was promising. Provided they both stay fit and hungry, they've got the ultimate role model to learn from and it could ease the post-Virg transition.

05 Oct 2026 22:40:39
Give the best and most available CB in the world another contract. Simple.

06 Oct 2026 00:20:14
remember when he had never been dribbled past?

Ledge.

06 Oct 2026 07:41:24
Why insult the man by offering reduced wages? Offer him what he gets now the man has just played every minute of every Premier League games last season. Still hugely important. We wouldn't be offering a 27 year old reduced wages so why offer a regular starter(albeit 35 years old)reduced wages?

06 Oct 2026 07:58:44
The most important thing for me is for the club to start do some more strategic planning for these aging stars.

The club did a terrible job of planning replacements for Mo Salah.

I'm supportive of giving one year extensions to both players if it allows the club to identify and secure (or develop internally) their long-term replacements.

However, it felt like with Salah we gave the extension just to kick the can down the road.

06 Oct 2026 09:47:32
If he is the best left CB at the club come the end of the season, then why wouldn't you extend?

06 Oct 2026 14:00:11
I'd hold on to players like VVD, Allison and Araujo for as long as possible. Leadership skills are crucial in a team that wants to win. And the environment created by these types off the field is often as important as what goes on, on the field.

Not easy to find leaders, even though diminishing skills on the field often convince you to want them to move on.

06 Oct 2026 16:19:21
Exactly FPF!

06 Oct 2026 16:53:26
Navy Keith, Salah had the season of his career bagging 57 goal contributions when we extended his contract. Exactly what part of re-signing a player hitting those kind of insane numbers felt like "kicking the can down the road"? Rhetorical question by the way.

07 Oct 2026 07:33:38
@chewy - read what I wrote again. I am talking about strategic long term team planning.

So by extending his contract and not using that time to plan and secure a replacement, the club IMO was kicking the can down the road with regards to replacing him.

I'm not sure why you are mentioning his goal contributions. I'm not saying he wasn't phenomenal or debating whether he should have been given a new contract.

What I am saying is the club needs to do a better job with team planning. VVD and Allison aren't going to play forever, so inevitably there will come a time when they need to be replaced - that should not be a surprise to anybody.

You would expect well run clubs to be forward planning in the transfer market, wouldn't you? Rhetorical question by the way.

07 Oct 2026 08:49:17
I'd let him go been a fantastic servant to the club and are we really going to offer what other clubs will, he's 35 and if he stays and his form drops off, the club will be murdered for paying him that and extending his contract.

07 Oct 2026 09:19:51
West Yorkshirered - it's simply time to move on from VVD. Alisson too IMO.

Id be disappointed with the club if either remain into next season.

I'm not even convinced he's the best CB at the club anymore.

07 Oct 2026 10:57:35
Would the club really be slaughtered if they offer him another year at his current wage? Dont think so? Brisbane I can see your point when it comes to Allison he misses a third of the season. But Virg has just played every minute of a Prem League season.

What LCB can we realistically get who is better? Why spend the bones of a hundred mill when we have Virg who on current form is the best in his position in the league?

05 Oct 2026 07:21:02
Liverpool and Chelsea have joined the race to sign Nottingham Forest's Brazilian defender Murillo, but the 24-year-old will not be allowed to leave the City Ground in January. (Football Insider)

05 Oct 2026 10:05:59
Can't see another CB arriving any time soon.

05 Oct 2026 11:04:31
do we really need him? think the Club are set now and have very high hopes for Jaquet/Leoni to be the future with Araujo in around the mix and the two young lads that played in pre season.

05 Oct 2026 11:52:39
With both VVD and Gomez contracts expiring next summer, it's possible they both leave. But then we would still have Jaquet, Leoni, Araujo, Ndiaye and Ndukwe. That looks enough, I would think. Unless the club wants to return Araujo and replace with a younger player (Zabarnyi or Murillo as per rumours). I would keep Araujo. Keep at least one senior experienced "anchor" type CB.

05 Oct 2026 12:22:14
"the 24-year-old will not be allowed to leave the City Ground in January"

Gonna make away fixtures a bit tricky.

05 Oct 2026 12:25:10
There are lots of possibilities. Like has been said, Virg and Gomez could easily leave and whilst I suspect that Araujo has already done enough to show that he would be a good signing, he is only on loan and there is no guarantee that he will be here next season. We will also need to see how well Leoni comes back from his injury. Whatever happens, with Jacquet, Leoni, Ndiaye and Ndukwe on the books it is a fantastic foundation to build on but the last 2 are still very young and might even need to be loaned out to get the minutes they require to continue developing to their full potential (I'm very excited about the potential of Ndukwe from what I saw in pre-season).


That said, I'd personally give Virg an extension and bring Araujo in permanently as you need that experience for the younger players to learn from. I wouldn't be looking to sign any other CB's at this time.

05 Oct 2026 12:42:59
While he is a good player that is surprisingly good in the air for his height and a really good left foot, I am not sure Murillo is the guy for defending the large spaces expected of an Iraola defender.

Tall and rangey with a good aerial duel % is the prototype.

05 Oct 2026 13:01:36
He seems to do ok at Nottingham Forest. perhaps they play on a smaller pitch than us, although we don't qualify for UEFA finals or internationals as our pitch is, apparently too small.

05 Oct 2026 14:32:15
Think we have the smallest pitch.

05 Oct 2026 14:33:00
Mightred Kloppers, Virg, Gomez and Araujo could all be on their way come June, we are definitely looking at options to fill those potential voids.

05 Oct 2026 16:15:01
While i do like the idea of Arsenal type fullbacks and Murillos ball progression, i feel he may be too expensive for someone who could get skinned with lots of space behind him.

05 Oct 2026 17:35:34
Fpf and funky, not to sure where you get this from. Murillo is quick enough to deal with space behind him. I am sure I read somewhere he clocked 33kph this season.
He's young, left footed, prem experience good passer and good moving forward with the ball. If we are looking at signing a cb I can't think of anyone better.

05 Oct 2026 18:27:08
Think Virg will be here next year so for me Araujo would be the only arrival. And I even think that's far from a given. A lot will depend on how Ndukwe gets on this season.

05 Oct 2026 19:45:34
We didn't buy a handful of the best young CB's available to bury them under expensive squad buys. Hopefully one will step up.

05 Oct 2026 22:39:57
WestYorkshirered - if you think 33kmph is quick then your argument undoes itself.

06 Oct 2026 03:53:45
Fpf, I said quick enough.