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24 Jan 2025 10:15:58
Long time reader, first time posting.
Can any of the Eds or Macca confirm the following rumour from Spain:
Real Madrid to move for Alexis Mac Allister in the summer, with Tchouameni being offered in exchange (LFC long time admirers) . RM and CA looking for more stability and control in the midfield.
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{Ed001's Note - it is certainly something they are considering, Madrid I mean.}
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24 Jan 2025 10:38:56
Mad considering how many pool fans don't seem to rate him, Real havnt bought many wasters lately. Speaking as someone who was doubtful about buying him i think, apart from a dodgy period playing the 6 under Klopp he's been a big success at the club.
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24 Jan 2025 10:46:46
We are going to end up in a complete mess, can see it all coming now. Probably why Klopp bailed when he did. Win as much as we can this season I reckon.
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24 Jan 2025 10:59:30
Mac is a player you can upgrade though. It’s not like losing Salah or VVD plus they would have a pay a decent amount.
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24 Jan 2025 11:01:27
Alexis desires to play in Spain for obvious reasons-no one is at fault for that.
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24 Jan 2025 11:28:01
RM might be teasing.
We can do with a upgrade in his position.
He also likes Spain and the play thing might suit him also. :-)
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24 Jan 2025 11:30:00
Mac Allister's playstyle is probably more suited to Spain. He's definitely replaceable and we would get a good fee for him.
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24 Jan 2025 12:05:06
Probabaly why Klopp bailed when he did?
Unsubstantiated nonsense.
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24 Jan 2025 12:21:38
I really do like tchoumani. Always have- bot sure if we were ever in for him but I would love that. I think it would be a great deal as I reckon both leagues would suit both players better. I remember ed2 previously saying madrid were after him this coming summer. And while player swaps are usually reserved for fifa, stranger things have happened.
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24 Jan 2025 12:31:17
You can say that Mark but he is clearly 1st choice for a team being called the best in england and maybe even europe! Might be better players out there but im sure they're at top clubs and prbobably 1st choice and very expensive. Personally i'd be doing all i can to keep this team together and Mac is a big part of that.
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24 Jan 2025 12:41:51
I think it’s a stark litmus test to see if someone rates Mac.
They’d be the guys who thought Gini was a ghost.
That Whealan was no good.
Mac is a brilliant player. Failure to see this is genuinely in the eye of the beholder. Mad he wins loads internationally, has won a cup with us, will win more this year and Madrid want him…. but he’s no good. Occam’s razor lads.
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24 Jan 2025 12:41:51
Tbf unless we start playing Mac in the 10 I wouldn’t mind swapping him and trying to get a bit more steel in the midfield. Ideal scenario would be to just move him to the 10 though as I don’t think any of our other mids have the same vision and can pick a pass like him.
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24 Jan 2025 12:45:27
Some people have no crap filter and literally believe everything they read.
A dodgy car salesman's dream customer.
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24 Jan 2025 13:03:22
If they want Macca they can offer Rodrygo. and we sign Zubimendi as a Macca replacement. Ideal but unrealistic. I like Tchouameni but a little injury prone and maybe more of a destructive DM than a constructive like Slot wants?
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24 Jan 2025 13:07:39
I haven't seen a lot of Tchouameni but the few Madrid and France games I've seen, he has never looked anything special. Also maybe more of a Klopp style midfielder than the playmaker that Slot likes. Can't see it happening.
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24 Jan 2025 13:21:20
McAllister is a top top player - he’s the one that holds it all together IMO - adds the competitiveness we need, diligent in defence, creative in attack. Agree 100% with the comment those that don’t rate him probably didn’t rate Gini - and look what happened when he left! Everyone wants flash but what you need in a top team is also some grit and nous.
He’s the only one I would trust fully against a Real Madrid or Barcelona type team in a Champions League final. I Love Gravenberch and he is outstanding, but still a bit untested at the very top level, Szobo is a talent but still a bit inconsistent, Elliott exceptional but young…., Jones shows glimpses but not world class yet etc. But I would be comfortable Macallister can go toe to toe…. we’d be mad to sell him.
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24 Jan 2025 13:38:23
SGRed
10,000% hard agree on Mac. I think after this season Ryan has been tested, we’ve played AC at Milan, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leverkusen and Real. He’s come through with flying colours.
Right now we have and outstandingly well balanced midfield with great cover.
Do not be surprised if in summer Real enquire about Ryan.
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24 Jan 2025 14:00:33
You would be happy to swap a proven Premiership solid performer, for a player who has not developed since moving to Spain where the style of play is less intense and the standard poorer, and there is no guarantee that Tchouameni would be able physically to play week in week out?
Utter madness. If Tchouameni comes to Anfield, he should be in addition to the midfielders we have, not to replace Mac.
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24 Jan 2025 14:07:40
Yes Maccas crying and whining whilst play acting will fit the bill at Madrid has been lacking a bit since Ramos left. Macca and LB are definitely the weak spots in the team and both can be upgraded.
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24 Jan 2025 14:40:36
Reports are saying they are also hijacking Zubimendi's move to Arsenal. They will have more centre mids than you can shake a stick at. They'll have to play 0-10-0 to fit them all in the team!
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24 Jan 2025 14:48:39
After watching the likes of Grealish, Havertz, Kane, Bruno F, Joelinton, Gabriel etc cheat on a weekly basis, I think we're being a bit harsh on Macca here.
Admittedly he's had a few moments this season where he's been caught and has tried to buy a freekick. I expect he will weed that out of his game given it isn't working. He's clearly not as cut out for it as the whole Arsenal, City and Newcastle teams are.
As for Tchouameni. That player's name is synonymous with Klopp's worst window. I call it the "Golden cow" summer. Hopefully we have moved on. Would prefer we invest in Baleba, even if he is more expensive and less experienced than Tchouameni.
If we swapped Macca for Tchou, then we would lose something some of the playmaking ability we have. Even more so if we lose Trent. Can Elliott step up more levels? I am skeptical about that. Szobo has a great engine but he's not a playmaker. We'd probably have to look for another 10 addition in that case. Of course, I'd be happy with Florian Wirtz at LFC. Unlikely though!
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24 Jan 2025 15:43:07
RM being linked with Konate now as well, as are PSG.
While the club can’t control what the players agents, or other clubs, are briefing or saying to the press it’s disappointing that we’re continually having our players linked with others. Especially true with Konate, he has a few injury concerns but I think we’d struggle to get a better player in the market without paying double what he cost.
It’s partly a reflection that they’re sought after players, but also a poor reflection on our ability to sort things out contractually and dampen the noise down. They’re contracted to us so should also be treating us with more respect if that’s where the press leaks are coming from. Could also be other clubs destabilising.
Particularly given we’re top of everything now is the time to capitalise, tie down the ones we want to keep.
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24 Jan 2025 15:51:21
He does down way too easy and play acts a lot.
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24 Jan 2025 17:30:37
Side tracking a bit. @FlyPelicanFly . I'd always thought that the Grealish of a few years ago could have been a top top player if he could have been convinced to stay upright more often.
As for Mac. There are only a few players playing in the Prem that i would put on or near his level for his role in the team. He is an absolutely phenomenal disruptor of play and of the oppositions momentum. Its a team game, the sum is much more than the individual parts!
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24 Jan 2025 17:59:39
The only fans that don’t seem to rate him are on here and the basis is because he goes down to easy. I think he’s class, great presser, can spot a pass and links up player better than most of our mids in my opinion.
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24 Jan 2025 18:01:09
Why is it a surprise when teams show an interest in players at a club that is top of rather PL and the CL qualifying process? It would be really strange if other (top) clubs weren’t interested in our players. It’s natural but it doesn’t mean that the club will let them go, does it?
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24 Jan 2025 18:16:42
Yeah, we'll sell half our team to real Madrid. Teams are always interested in our players, it means nothing.
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24 Jan 2025 20:28:13
I mean, if Slot doesn't play Endo enough cos he can't control/ deliver the ball fast enough in tight spaces/ under pressure, I just wonder how on earth he would play Tchouaméni at all.
Maybe he plans to use the frenchman as central defender instead, as Madrid has done this season because of injuries, but also cos of Tchouameni himself struggling badly in the middke of the park.
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25 Jan 2025 00:23:55
Tchouameni is far better than Endo.
I like Endo but the main reason he is flavour of the month is that he isn't playing so doing nothing wrong. You can't compare him to Tchouameni.
Klopp bailed, did he? That's disrespectful to one of the best managers we've ever had.
We dropped out of the CL places once in the full seasons he had with us.
He rebuilt the front three and midfield and we were back there, top of the new league format and top of the PL.
He left us in far better place than the one we were in when he took over.
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25 Jan 2025 03:58:19
Keep Tchouameni. Camavinga or no deal.
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24 Jan 2025 05:29:53
Expect Jota to be sold in the summer. There is a major upgrade coming in.
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24 Jan 2025 06:29:23
Er. OK Wayne.
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24 Jan 2025 08:09:30
Keep Darwin and sell Jota, yes please.
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24 Jan 2025 08:35:51
Cannot get on board with this keep Darwin and sell Jota mantra.
If you need a goal in a game, brining Jota on is a massive game changer and can genuinely win games.
Nunez scored a couple against Brentford but the reality is he’s just not that been that guy for us.
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24 Jan 2025 09:33:00
Forest Navy? How about Newcastle?
Nunez has found his minutes limited this season as he’s admitted himself he’s been going through a difficult spell but let’s not change history to suit your narrative.
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24 Jan 2025 09:40:53
Yes Jota can score goals. But how many times has he been able to play in 5-6 straight matches without getting injured. He is available for 2-3 matches, score 1-2 goals and then goes injured for 1-2 months. The same thing just keep repeating itself over and over again.
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24 Jan 2025 09:49:31
Whilst I like both and I think they both will play an important role in any success we may enjoy this season I would sell both in the summer. Jota too injury prone and not getting any younger. Nunez is too erratic, his work rate, passion and commitment is unquestioned, but that is also his weakness as he lacks composure and is inconsistent and too emotive in games.
If possible bring in Cunha in the summer, promote Danns. Hopefully next season Chiesa will be up to speed and will be like a new signing, meaning we still have two strong options in every position.
Any that would be my plan, but if I had to sell one it would be Jota, just because of his lack of availability.
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24 Jan 2025 10:04:35
Between Jota and Nunez, all things considered I'd keep Nunez, he's never injured, runs from first minute to last, his build up play is improving all the time, he has a great understanding with Dom and Mo and his decision-making has come on in leaps and bounds this year. Sure he doesn't score enough goals but what he offers to the team with Jota's constant injuries is quantitatively higher. If Jota was fit all the time, then sure, he'd be above Darwin in the pecking order, but that's simply not the case. The thing is however that Nunez probably commands a higher market value now and seems a more saleable asset. I'm waiting to see until the end of the season whether Darwin can play a bigger role for us in our title and CL push, I'm pretty optimistic that he can.
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24 Jan 2025 10:14:42
If he could stay fit I would keep Jota but the fact is that his injury record is abysmal. He's rarely available when we need him and when he is, he has a good goal scoring record but offers little else in terms of overall play.
Nunez is a much better team player and actually has the second most 90+ minute goals by a Liverpool player (level with Gerrard and Torres and only behind Mane) so if you need somebody to change a game late on and find you a winner he is statistically a much better option than Jota.
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24 Jan 2025 10:41:31
Sell both, buy a starting centre forward a killer and have Danns and Gak/ Mo/ Chiesa as other options.
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24 Jan 2025 12:09:49
I’m not changing history Becker.
The Newcastle game was in August 2023. We’re in 2025 now.
Needs to be doing more.
He’s capable of these incredible moments from time to time. No doubt.
But my point is that he’s not mr reliable coming off the bench to get you a goal.
For me Jota is.
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24 Jan 2025 12:34:28
I love nunez- think he should start more games. We have been better with his chaos from the start. He brings so much more to our team than goals. I’d keep jota as impact sub- otherwise, if there are buyers for him out there, have at it and give danns the opportunity. My one criticism of jota apart from his injuries is his link up play. Its definitely improved but for every goal he scores, I wonder how many more goals he could have been involved in through losing the ball or bad passing. It was kind of like the gerrard thing. It used always do my head in how many shots gerrard took a match. Yes- he scored worldies, but how better might the team have been overall had he picked out a pass that put a player through on goal over going for it. In jota’s defence- he’s a class goalscorer so its not his job to be making things happen- he’s just there to put it in the net, so I’m probably being a little unfair on the lad- I just look at the impact a salah and gakpo bring- and even darwin- even when not scoring. Not a popular line of thought I would imagine.
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24 Jan 2025 12:41:01
I should add- wasn’t actually having a go at gerrard before anyone loses their mind- was just trying to give an example. The kid was majestic on the pitch to watch. Just throwing that one out there. let's just all be cool.
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24 Jan 2025 14:48:23
To be fair @aoe you can say the same about almost lot of players. Mo misses lots of chances and often loses the ball in bad positions but most of the time you know he'll create more chances and almost certainly put one away or create one for somebody else. I think it's often down to these special players trying things that other players maybe wouldn't - a bit high risk, high reward.
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24 Jan 2025 19:09:04
A fair point completely. And certainly apt with a player like mo and gerrard. But jota is neither player. I was just using gerrard as an example of my issue with jota. (Probably badly as well. ) To clarify, my point with jota is that imho his link up play costs more for the team, than what he brings to the team as a goalscorer. Let’s say- he scores one goal in three games. A player with a better ability to link up play could theoretically be responsible for multiple goals over those same three games- that’s where I see the value in nunez. He brings more than goals. Oh yes, goals would be most welcome, but overall (and certainly lies damned lies and statistics might argue otherwise) I think we score more with darwin on the pitch, than with jota. Saying that- against a tired team, I think he is a brilliant substitute option.
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24 Jan 2025 22:50:26
Yes jota is injured but still scores more than nunez. So keep jota for sub sell numez and bring in gykores. A natural finisher. Haalands rubbish but a great finisher. Numez runs around but can't score.
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25 Jan 2025 00:02:43
If we can get a good fee for Jota then move him on. Good player for us but his next injury is never far away.
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25 Jan 2025 00:34:01
Nunez' link up play isn't that good at all. For a big lad he isn't good with his back to goal or with his head.
He's an athlete but a lot of the time he's moving too quickly to have control of the ball or assess what is happening around him. He's rash and erratic.
I'd keep him this season and use him as a wild card though to hit teams on the break or to goal hang when we need a goal. He needs to be in the six yard box.
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25 Jan 2025 05:02:58
I don’t care who is being sold of the 2 but please let the upgrade be Cunha - several teams linked with him now and we mustn’t miss out.
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23 Jan 2025 16:00:56
News that we're in no mood to listen to offers for Nunez, and he's an important member of our squad. We must all come to terms with this and move on.
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23 Jan 2025 16:29:41
Nothing to come to terms with and he is an important squad member. Delivered when came on the other day for important three points and if we get he’s good to rotate so we don’t get injuries or good back up if we do get them.
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23 Jan 2025 16:39:39
Great news that.
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23 Jan 2025 17:18:02
Everybody has a price @Rome - it’s a business. If we aren’t bringing a CF in over this window it makes sense to keep him (at least until summer) as our other CF will be out for weeks again with a chipped finger nail or whatever it is.
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23 Jan 2025 17:18:24
Hopefully this is true.
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23 Jan 2025 17:43:13
A few people will know I said it tongue in cheek. I'm not a big fan of his, but if he keeps doing what he did last Saturday I'll continue to sing his name.
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23 Jan 2025 18:27:23
Jota needs to go before Darwin . He misses too many games .
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23 Jan 2025 18:35:31
Great news 👍.
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23 Jan 2025 19:12:29
Is it just click bait that Newcastle are looking at Gyokeres in case Isak is sold to “Liverpool” then? Or would it be a case Jota is sold with Isak coming in and Nunez a squad player?
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23 Jan 2025 20:23:04
I just hope Nunez starts next few games he needs a run of games.
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23 Jan 2025 20:42:58
Both need to go in the summer in fairness Dhfc.
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23 Jan 2025 23:47:17
Nice. Depth, Stability and chemistry will be our biggest asset for the remainder of the title race.
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23 Jan 2025 23:49:09
We'll sell him in the summer. He may come in useful before then.
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24 Jan 2025 00:04:13
Will Nunez become our new Origi?
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24 Jan 2025 00:15:09
Check his off the ball stats this season, they are off the scale good.
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24 Jan 2025 00:25:11
Not that I'm wishing for anybody to be sold, but at this rate our only hope is the FA increase squad size to 30 players from 25. This way we can have the incomings everyone wants, and not have to sell anybody.
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24 Jan 2025 01:26:30
Nor should we be selling anyone in Jan without replacements lined up. Pretty common sense approach given all the comps we are still in.
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24 Jan 2025 02:32:24
100% FM
Nunez is too erratic and despite flashes of brilliance he is not an all round premier league player.
Jota is excellent and lethal on his day but his injuries are so regular, he has to go.
Isak is an amazing striker, but be careful what you wish for, he too has a tendency for niggling injuries over recent seasons.
Personally like the idea of Osmihen and Pedro to replace those two but I would dearly like to see a DM, LB first and a CB too.
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24 Jan 2025 06:16:25
No need for that smutty talk vango!
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24 Jan 2025 10:42:52
An £85m Origi😆.
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24 Jan 2025 14:11:09
LFC will not turn down 70m for a squad player. Love Darwin, but someone offers that, he's gone.
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25 Jan 2025 01:30:49
@Vango, the idea that we gave the best player in the world when he doesn’t actually touch the ball made me ‘laugh a lot’.
Just imagine if we signed the next best 9 outfielders who didn’t touch the ball, we’d be brilliant.
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25 Jan 2025 05:04:39
He’s more of an Erik Meijer than Big Divock Origi.
An £85m mad Erik.
We should always listen to offers, every player has a price.
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22 Jan 2025 15:13:06
So as this is a rumours site here is one for you all.
I work with someone who's partners sister works with Liverpool FC Community partnership team, or what ever the exact title is, you know the ones, those guys that that work with various charities and on community projects. Any way she has told her brother (my colleagues partner as he to is a massive LFC fan) that she was talking with someone from the club the other day who is working on a project for the club with her and her team. And this person is ITK .
They have said 2 of the 3 contracts are done deals and they are awaiting the 3rd to be sorted either way as to not put pressure on the 3rd person by announcing the other two. And the kicker is, the 3rd person is not the one you would think would be issue. Its just a case of length of contract for this person and is being worked out. All 3 should be announced by the end of next week one way or another. But there is a chance that the 3rd person won't sign if the length of contract isn't resolved.
As I said its a rumour not fact, just passing on what i've been told.
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22 Jan 2025 15:37:11
Is the guy that's "ITK" Robbie Fowler by any chance?
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22 Jan 2025 15:38:15
Funny enough, God said something very similar on Amazon last night🤞
Wouldn’t it be great if all 3 stay with us!
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22 Jan 2025 15:44:13
Great rumour, really old stool that.
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22 Jan 2025 15:56:30
Mcgoveb you really can't pass a really old stool😂.
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22 Jan 2025 16:08:27
I usually flush my old stool's Mcgoveb.
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22 Jan 2025 16:14:31
Lol good one mate. I'm the real Salah as well.
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22 Jan 2025 16:16:59
McGoveb, I hate old stool. The smell only gets worse with age.
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22 Jan 2025 17:01:12
Obviously I’m grasping here, but did anyone else spot Curtis Jones celebrating Salahs goal? As they begin walking back to halfway, jones puts his arm round him and starts pointing to the pitch indicating Mo is staying put. Maybe. ;)
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22 Jan 2025 17:17:24
@MK. so glad you didn't misspell hate without the "h" 🤣
@OP. well done. Now that's a proper rumor.
Sisters Boyfriends Uncles Nieces Granny's Girlfriends Stepson heard. Excellent.
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22 Jan 2025 17:40:00
I really hope it's not VVD. He's the most important imo. But anyway hopefully all 3 sign!
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22 Jan 2025 18:12:33
Haha nice classic style rumour.
I would very much doubt anyone on the community side of the organisation knows anything about contract negotiations or potential agreements.
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22 Jan 2025 19:11:05
Mylie, I noticed that celebration with Curtis Jones yesteray and Drew the same conclusion. What can you do? This is the life of a fan! Not good for anyone's heart!
We can only hope and watch and wait.
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22 Jan 2025 20:16:39
Apologies Gents, I dropped a doo doo there.
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22 Jan 2025 22:23:45
Guys I think Curtis was referring to the interview where he said Hazard might be a better footballer than Mo but he’d rather have Mo in his team. Certain media outlets (and Leek on this website) spun his comments into a criticism of Mo so he was just basically saying Mo is the man.
Having said that, Mo is 100% staying.
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22 Jan 2025 22:50:31
Great rumour let's hope all 3 have their contracts extended ASAP.
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22 Jan 2025 23:10:12
I’d take two out of three. Not a bad hit rate. Regardless of which two. As long as one of them is VVD!
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23 Jan 2025 01:32:33
You got me hoping Kimuraking. Fingers crossed that it's true and we can finally put this contract situation to bed.
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23 Jan 2025 04:29:27
Beautiful post, K!
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23 Jan 2025 08:56:36
I love an old school rumour, can we have more please.
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23 Jan 2025 12:29:49
Yes this was a nice post, it felt like ten years ago.
A good rumour and a load of banter which was taken well by McGoveb. 👏👏👏
Let's have more like these from posters who know where the Babbel copter has disappeared to. 😂.
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23 Jan 2025 12:31:22
Old style stools remind me of good old "feces" (faces) . Ah, the good old days.
Yes, yes. I'll get my hat. 😂.
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22 Jan 2025 09:40:04
Harvey Elliott is going nowhere despite all of the internet chatter sending the sharks into a feeding frenzy.
Source: Harvey Elliott.
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22 Jan 2025 10:26:19
I don’t think anyone here thought he would anyway.
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22 Jan 2025 10:29:07
Harvey is the closest to one of us on here managing to make it at LFC.
I feel the club would have to prise his fingers off of the doors to get him out if they wanted that. The boy is a Liverpool fan through and through and it is fantastic to see.
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22 Jan 2025 11:29:36
Yeah I think he'll be huge for us in time.
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22 Jan 2025 11:35:45
I really enjoy watching Harvey play, his first touch is one of the best i've seen. Hopefully he has a long and successful career with us.
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22 Jan 2025 12:10:05
Reminds me of Danny Murphy when he left Liverpool. At his press conference when he joined Charlton (I think), he could hardly manage a smile. Subsequently said he wished he hadn't left and had stuck around to try to fight for a place (Liverpool won the Champions League the season immediately after he left) .
It must be "difficult" if you are lucky enough to end up as a pro at the club you support but don't play regularly. Do you stick around, happy to be a squad player or a substitute, thrilled just to have the chance to get on the pitch sometimes, pick up some medals and a great salary but end your career with limited appearances/ minutes, or go somewhere else where you play regularly, achieve more individually and perhaps have a better chance of getting selected for your country, etc?
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22 Jan 2025 12:10:47
I have to admit that I thought there was a real likelihood thag he'd be sold. Kinda relieved that he himself has come out and said he'd be going nowhere.
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22 Jan 2025 12:24:56
Which position do you all see Harvey playing, and who’s going to make way or how would we adapt tactically to fit him in as a starter?
I like his attitude and skill set, but can’t quite see where he fits for us at the moment given the way we set up tactically in most games. I think he may be more of a rotation option, or if we change shape for certain games he may then get a start where we need less physicality.
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22 Jan 2025 12:45:48
I don’t think Harvey or any of the home grown squad members like Jones etc, will be shown the door anytime soon. With potentially Trent and Kelleher on their way out, there’s no way we would let Gomez, Jones or Elliott go.
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22 Jan 2025 12:47:35
Harvey will do well against teams in a low block, he has that touch and guile to thread passes through and invariably hits the target with his pot shots. It’s no coincidence that he’s scored a few from deflected shots through a packed area. You just have to accept that he’s weak in the tackle and you’ll be giving chances for the opposition to break on you whilst he’s on the pitch.
Thats why he’s an option to come on with 20 minutes to go when you are willing to take risks to get a goal.
Not sure if he’s ever going to be a regular starter under Slot though. His defensive game just isn’t good enough.
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22 Jan 2025 12:57:32
Agree Beckers. I think that’s where it’s a tough choice, more for him than us.
I think we’d be happy to keep him (except for the fact he’s all profit PSR wise), but for him as a fan and a player he won’t want to leave but it’s a dilemma whether a squad position will be enough for him. Slot has said he needs to improve physically and maybe if he does he can force his way in somewhere,
It’s similar to the Danny Murphy thing in many ways, he lacked pace as well but had other really good attributes.
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22 Jan 2025 16:50:10
I think last season Klopp made a massive mistake not playing Elliott earlier in the run in sticking sobs and Jones instead and both were out of form at the moment Slot is making the same mistake. I love Harvey always gives 100% and he is such a clever footballer to.
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22 Jan 2025 21:27:35
harvey can play 10 or RW. no one needs to make way for him because none of the guys who are ahead of him are going to be available all the time and playing at their peak form all season.
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22 Jan 2025 22:06:11
The problem with Elliot is his speed. If speed can be trained but could be also due to earlier injury during debut season.
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22 Jan 2025 23:53:54
Atm i can't see Harvey becoming a first team starter but i can def see the club not wanting to let him go. Remember the regs around club developed players are only going to become more strict so clubs are going to want to hold onto any half decent player.
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21 Jan 2025 16:35:50
Various outlets saying we're looking to sign Hadj-moussa from Feyenoord. Right sided forward. I hadn't heard of him till 10 mins ago, but I'm no expert on Dutch football. Most of us hadn't heard of Slot 12 months ago.
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21 Jan 2025 18:11:45
Well that means Salah is gone.
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21 Jan 2025 18:22:11
I'm sure Richard Hughes is monitoring the situation like there's no tomorrow.
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21 Jan 2025 18:33:23
Yeah 6 goals and 2 assists in 22 games sounds like a Salah replacement for sure.
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21 Jan 2025 19:02:37
Isnt he like 22, could maybe be an understudy to Salah if there's even an ounce of truth to it.
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21 Jan 2025 19:02:52
Underwhelming if true (and that’s the caveat) . Don’t @ me with “but Salah” or “but Mane”, both of them were playing at a high level when we signed them. This feels more like Luis Alberto or Ossama Assaidi.
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21 Jan 2025 19:34:16
Could get mixed up with nunez if he signs he spit of nunez.
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21 Jan 2025 20:07:15
@KurtStiener69, when salah join us, he is 15 goals in 40 games. We always uncover the gems.
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21 Jan 2025 22:30:37
He shares a birthday with me - he’s going to be stellar!
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21 Jan 2025 23:09:29
The season before Salah joined us he scored 19 in 41.
That virtually a 1 in 2 scoring rate……. from a wide attacker.
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21 Jan 2025 23:50:08
@Vic - irrespective of us signing him or not, have you ever seen the lad play? First time he’s been mentioned on here and the knives are straight out rounded out nicely by you pigeon holing him with a couple of players that you don’t rate (I know it was a shock to me) .
Nice to take time off from being happy that we won another CL match and are through to 5he last 16 to be dismissive of yo7ng players at other clubs. Love your work.
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22 Jan 2025 07:36:42
WDW if FSG attacked Palestine you’d still find a way to defend them.
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22 Jan 2025 08:24:37
I don't see one mention of FSG in WDW's post.
It just goes to show how bent out of shape some people are, they'll make things up just to slag some aspect of the club off.
Supposedly grown men too.
Comical.
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22 Jan 2025 10:42:41
He looks handy. Skilful dribbler but has some work to do on his end product. Reminds me a bit of Doak. Definitely not a Mo replacement but a potentially good investment to develop or failing that, sell on at a decent profit in 2/ 3 years.
There is the possibility that he would replace Doak if he is moved on for profit in the summer but personally I'd rather just keep Doak.
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22 Jan 2025 10:49:09
More than comical. Moronic. What has Palestine got to do with football or FSG, for that matter? Humour? Distasteful feeble attempt at best.
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22 Jan 2025 10:55:16
Time to give the old noggin a bit of a wobble @Frode.
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22 Jan 2025 16:11:08
I am all for unearthing gems and all that, But Salah was playing in a really Strong league, no disrespect but the Dutch league is league 1 level if that. You have 3 good teams and the rest are basically feeder clubs to those 3. Of course you can find Luis Suarez players there once in a while but again his numbers were ridiculous for Ajax so there's a huge difference.
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23 Jan 2025 10:42:58
Hadji- "MOUSSE"!
makes sense the stingy transfer budget will only just about get us a decent "MOUSSE"! chocolate or vanilla anybody!
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21 Jan 2025 14:34:55
Let's call a spade a spade:
Still no resolution for the 3 key players contracts? Amateur hour, shambolic nonsense. Embarrassing the club is allowing this to rumble on.
Signing nobody of note yet again? Shambolic, pathetic, and could actually be the difference at the business end of the season.
The club is being run well as a business, but shockingly for what it is actually functioning as - a football club. If this continues the suits behind the scenes are going to run the club into mediocrity. I am really annoyed that we are doing so well on the pitch, but being completely and utterly failed off of it. Heads should roll.
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21 Jan 2025 15:01:14
Run so shockingly badly as a football team that we are sitting on top of The Premiership and the ECL.
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21 Jan 2025 15:08:21
Seano yeah I agree we are being run terribly as a football team. Top of the league still in all competitions what are these clowns doing to our club. If we could only spend money hand over fist like loads of other teams win no trophies I would be a much happy fan.
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21 Jan 2025 15:11:51
It does make you wonder how we'll go about replacing VVD, TAA, and Salah (assuming they leave) in addition to Robertson and whoever else leaves in the summer - Jota? Nunez? Diaz? All three?
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21 Jan 2025 15:32:27
Feel sorry for Slot having to field the questions on it, they should wheel out the Lego haired gimp Hughes to do that.
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21 Jan 2025 15:42:25
lol us been top of the league is irrelevant and I'm so fed up of seeing people using that to try and say everything is ok when it's not.
If we sign nobody this month and our three lads leave, in the summer how much work will be needed to be done? Not to mention if Diaz (or when), Nunez or Jota leaves. Tons of business to be done, it's not about this season it's about beyond that.
If we could get the contracts sorted this month, signed a midfielder and a defender this month then I'd believe in the suits a little more but do we really believe that's going to happen? I certainly don't.
This season we'll win things but now we have the concern about after this season. Our team could look very different next season and with Hughes and Ward there I'm not convinced it'll be the right changes for Liverpool. Just look at the summer.
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21 Jan 2025 15:52:26
Salah. A new contract for a player wanting more money whose value will only decrease. He already is noticeably doing less running off the ball. It is the timing of his current contract that is the issue here. Unless he will agree to a two year deal I don’t see this happening. And even then I am not sure we should do this.
VVD. Yeah. This one needs to get over the line.
Trent. Whatever he chooses, good luck to him.
Bottom line is that these posts venting because the club is being run like a business, and not like Leeds circa David O Leary, are simply depressing.
We are top of the league. Top of the CL. We are being called the best team in Europe currently. We play engaging, sensible football, we have managed a potential downturn post Klopp wonderfully, and have a massive stadium. If we can’t enjoy this season then what is the point of any of this?
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21 Jan 2025 16:05:20
Did you miss were I said we’re doing really well on the pitch Grino and Kemlyn? Our excellence on the pitch is in spite of the efforts of those behind the scenes, not because of them.
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21 Jan 2025 17:11:07
It’s not run well as a business. Could do a lot better.
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21 Jan 2025 16:12:30
The plastic fans always quantify the success of a football club based on what happens in the transfer market rather than what happens on the pitch.
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21 Jan 2025 17:14:23
Nobody is implying they should spend hand over fist, just get the players in for the gaping holes in the team. It's obvious where there's a weakness . The dogs on the street can see it. If Hughes can't then he should be sacked. If liverpool get a couple of injuries in key areas and end up losing the league then he should be held responsible.
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21 Jan 2025 17:33:58
@OP, the suits running the club see it as a business. Apparently the club has risen in value from £300m when they bought it to £4bn today. They aren’t running the business down at all. What you actually mean is they aren’t buying the very, very expensive players you want the club associated with.
The squad’s performance, to date, has been exceptional - nobody expected Slot to do thi well or the team to reach the position they have. As the club stands it is in both a strong financial position and in terms of where the first team squad sits and the way it is performing.
Three players are out of contract at the end of season as things currently stand but nobody on this board or outside of the club has the first clue as to what’s going on but there’s no concrete evident that the players will either leave or stay. The issue will resolve itself and the business will look to protect itself with an improved squad next season - not to do so would be detrimental to the business and, to date, they look like they know what they are doing in this respect.
The gossip mongering - shambolic, pathetic etc - is, in the context of where the business stands and the team is performing is absolutely ridiculous and, to be fair, just sounds like a bunch of four year olds stamping their foot and saying they aren’t going to eat their tea.
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21 Jan 2025 17:52:21
I actually agree fully that us doing really well on the pitch is in spite of the FSG and their puppets.
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21 Jan 2025 18:00:36
Or people have a bit of hindsight WDW3 something you clearly don't!
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21 Jan 2025 18:29:41
And those terrible suits did extensive research and saved us from Amorim and embarrassing ourselves with Madrid based Alonso and brought in a chap who makes Klopp look like David Brent. Good times are here and to stay and if Salah goes he goes.
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21 Jan 2025 18:29:47
Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the people running the club who are currently top of the league and the champions league know what they're doing more than people who have no knowledge regarding the ins and outs of running a football club.
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21 Jan 2025 18:38:48
Top of the Prem and Europe but we're a badly run business and people need to be sacked like a ritualistic sacrifice.
Completely detached from reality.
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{Ed025's Note - an absolute shambles Flash 🤣🤣🤣
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21 Jan 2025 19:03:15
Oh, and I forgot to mention that not only are we top of the ECL but top with 100% record but clearly 100% is not enough for some people.
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21 Jan 2025 19:01:09
You not heard the sky is falling in at the moment ed025? 😩.
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{Ed025's Note - it does seem that way Kopite, i cant believe what im reading on here half the time mate..
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21 Jan 2025 19:32:49
Its embarrassing some of the nonsense some of our fans are coming out with. I suspect a lot of them fumed when we never got the players they wanted and are wishing it to all fall apart so they can be proved right. Some just can't hold their hands up an say maybe they were wrong. Oh well, I for one will enjoy the ride.
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21 Jan 2025 19:42:30
I actually don’t think it’s embarrassing as much as stubbornness.
The longer this has rumbled on it feels like a game of cat and mouse but it’s two cats and no mouse!
Usually you’d expect a negotiation and the two parties to meet in the middle.
However none of the players seem to be willing to lower their expectations enough and equally the club are not willing to budge enough on what they are willing to offer.
I have the feeling the club is not willing to sign off on all three new contracts due to the huge outlay in terms of spend to renew all 3.
I think either the players reduce their demands and they sign or one player (at least) moves on which allows the club to re-sign the other two on new deals.
It feels very similar to me at least to the Mane and Salah renewal saga few seasons back. In the end we let one go and resigned the other one on a big new deal.
I just don’t think the club is willing to commit to what they are three players want.
Not because “the owners are tight” or “they’re saving all their money for the baseball team” or because they hate Liverpool.
There will unquestionably be a large cost impact of the three renewals and two of them have reduced resale value due to their age going forward.
Football in the PL has become an accounting business with all this PSR stuff (which I hate as it stifles progression and encourages selling off young talent rather than developing it like it should be! ) .
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21 Jan 2025 20:03:28
Shambolic, embarrassing, pathetic and nonsense of a club.
Get it off your chest, Seano 😂.
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21 Jan 2025 20:20:02
I think they're trying to change something to encourage teams to invest in their youngsters rather than using them as ways around PSR. Maybe it will be that selling academy products doesn't go towards their PSR budget. I don't know but I'd much rather teams keep their academy players rather than buying a load of players then having to sell them.
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21 Jan 2025 20:29:12
Y'all seem to forget the person who put us in this position is Jürgen klopp. When those renewals needed doing he was in charge of the club almost entirely from a football perspective.
In addition he knew he was leaving as far back as the previous summer yet still spent plenty of money that summer anyway while not getting those three signed up.
Who's to say that the year that those contracts were winding down those players didn't all feel let down by the club and klopp and that's why they're now holding the club over a barrel.
Fsg have made plenty of mistakes but this mess was not created by them. Klopp left them with three demoralised players whose contracts had been neglected by klopp after a season in which he quit mid season and they had no idea what to expect in future.
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21 Jan 2025 22:02:46
Another shambolic, embarrassing, pathetic and nonsense win tonight. I for one am getting fed up with all this winning without spaffing a load of money. Imagine how much higher in the table we'd be if we bought all the players people are demanding!
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21 Jan 2025 22:09:58
It’s not about getting to the top it’s about staying at the top. I don’t understand how people don’t understand the basics. When at the top you go again then again. You don’t settle you don’t drift otherwise we will drop off.
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21 Jan 2025 22:18:29
I want to be challenging nxt year too. without those 3 and no new players we won't be. So using the current status to close down the argument doesn't wash. Even if the 3 of them sign, this has been shockingly handled. We ended klopps penultimate year losing 5 midfielders in one season, having not signed one for 4 years. It's worked out OK, but it demonstrates a complete lack of continuity planning. I'd say it was lucky that those we signed each worked out, that doesn't usually happen and that luck won't continue.
I'll enjoy this ride, but it's in spite of the transfer strategy, rather than because of it. There is no longevity to that strategy.
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21 Jan 2025 22:23:50
@nevada: poppycock lad. Your kids must look forward to bedtime the stories you concoct.
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21 Jan 2025 23:01:19
The budget will be set at the start of the season. It will be reviewed due to performance &/ or injury, but no doubt using sell to buy or by adjusting future budgets. We are owned by business men, they won't involve themselves with day to day and will expect those that have been put in place to manage that for them, including budgets.
As for the contracts, they have no doubt had an input, but will leave it to those in situ and will have authorised budgets and strategy. They will not care if any of the 3 leave if the strategy/ contingency is stuck to. We have benefitted hugely from their ownership and prudent business practices, but when everything is said and done it is simply an investment opportunity to them. But still, could be worse could be Radcliffe or Musk and good people and club servants will be discarded like they are rubbish. Better the devil you know and a modicum of success.
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21 Jan 2025 23:19:43
I quote Ferris Bueller ‘life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while you could miss it’.
Roughly translated, live for the moment guys. Stop worrying about things that might or might not happen in future or comparing things to what’s happened in the past. It’s futile and will only make you unhappy.
We are top of the PL and CL, in the SF of the league cup and still in the FA cup with a favourable draw. If you can’t just enjoy that then you’ll never be happy.
Plus can we get a petition together to get Slot a Knighthood? God knows he deserves it getting this team to where it is with all of the blatantly obvious gaping holes in the team.
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21 Jan 2025 23:32:45
I wouldn't say the club is badly run, coz I have no idea what's going on behind. But I'm with most here, it does worry me a lot that even the contracts are not sorted yet.
We might see big changes with the squad next season, and I kinda don't like big changes. It always started rough, and it might takes time to stabilize it.
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21 Jan 2025 23:41:20
I can't understand why are we not giving Salah a contract he deserves. he is super fit, efficient, professional and having his best season ever. If anyone thinks he is going to perform bad in the next 3 Years they shouldn't be working at this club.
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21 Jan 2025 23:44:41
I clearly never said we should “spaff a load of money” on players, I said we haven’t signed any of note despite there being clear holes in the squad. Slot is doing fantastically well, so is the team, but they are not being helped in any way by recruitment and they should be. We bought a GK and sent him on loan, a winger who has only just player his first games for the club (and who you could argue was far from a priority), and a kid who we ripped up our youth academy wage structure for. I get it we’re doing well now, but that doesn’t mean the clubs transfer approach is somehow vindicated. Strong tears should continue to strengthen - we haven’t, why?
The 3 contracts for 3 key personnel are not only detracting from the teams excellent season, but those 3 players have been central to it! Yet the club has allowed the situation to continue without seemingly any resolution. What other club allows its 3 best players to have their contracts run down like this? I know we’re doing well in the league, but this is about more than current form. The club can’t continue to be run like this and succeed, something will give sooner or later.
I want the club to be successful, the club seems to be being run in a way that will make that significantly more difficult. We are lucky Slot is doing so well, that the players we have are playing to such a high standard, but I’m looking at this with the perception greater than a baby, so I’m not just thinking “yeah we’re doing great right now” I’m considering the long term implications and, in my opinion, they are not great. If you disagree that’s fine, but this continual aping of “were top of the league, badly run lol” us not only short-sighted, but fails to address any of the points made.
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21 Jan 2025 23:53:03
@Kurt, thanks for making me laugh. We are talking about where we are now and we won’t have hindsight on where we are now until we move into the future.
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22 Jan 2025 00:23:53
markp08, what if the players you want couldn't keep us at the top?
You can't always be at the top so I suggest you just enjoy it when you are, lad.
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22 Jan 2025 01:55:58
@scousejohn 8 which part of what is said was untrue? It was klopps responsibility to resign players on expiring contracts. It was his responsibility to deal with transfers, it's why ward and Edwards left in the first place.
Klopp wanted full control, got it and then struggled with it, perhaps not realising just how hard it is.
While everyone is crying and moaning about fsg not signing these contracts but Jürgen also didn't sign them up for a whole year or so. Perhaps it's not as simple as it seems and that's why Jürgen couldn't get it done either.
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22 Jan 2025 01:04:42
Ed, both things can be true don't they. Are we on top of the EPL and UCL table and have great chance of winning both? Yes. Are we still in other cup competition? Also yes. So that is all great.
But we are also looking at a situation where we might be losing 3 of our best players on free next season. That is 3 massive hole in the squad that need to be filled on top of needing a new LB, another CB and another DM.
And if reports of us wanting to replace Nunez and possibly Jota is true, then that's another two spots that need to be filled. Suddenly we are looking at close to 10 players that need replacing in short period of time. That doesn't really scream well run club does it?
That is a massive changes and massive changes rarely turn out to be good. Can we trust the person in charge to handle all of this to do well? Looking at the last transfer window, I have my doubts.
Yes its all looking bright and rosy at the moment, but it can suddenly turn grim in six months time. Yes peoples can celebrate the progress that we have made so far this season, but that's doesn't mean others can't be worried about our future.
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{Ed025's Note - forget all the cudda wudda shudda malarkey Mfahmee, any players that go will be replaced and the club will move on mate..
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22 Jan 2025 08:10:01
You try to give yourself the best possible chance. I know you never agree Rigsby but when we were dominating European football that’s exactly what we did. Buy 2-3 players every season to try and keep the squad at the top. We did the opposite last time we won the league. This time the squad is easily improved.
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22 Jan 2025 09:09:22
Markp but we also sold 2-3 players a season. keegan went to Hamburg, Souness went to Italy, Jimmy Case and Terry Mac were pushed out of the door, a prime Clemence effectively moved on by an unknown Zimbabwean.
You cannot use the past as a barometer and a bet look the massive losses (or so we thought at the time) .
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22 Jan 2025 09:26:34
Oh well Ed, if only it was that easy to replace good players as you say, every clubs should be able to compete for the top prize won't they. Of course the club will move on. Its whether we moving in right direction in competing for the league and UCL trophy or back to competing for top four.
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{Ed025's Note - to quote the great ED002 "all players are just transient employees" Mfahmee, we all asked in the past how players like...Keegan, Rush, Dalglish etc can be replaced?, the fact is they were mate and the club moves on..
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22 Jan 2025 11:06:33
At the end of the day, what really matters is how "they" (Slot, LFC upper management and FSG football management) see things, and how you or I see them does not mean a thing. If nothing is happening then it's either they're choosing not to reveal things (as is their right and privilege) or they're actually choosing to do nothing about it.
But we all know that there is no such thing as "choosing to do nothing about it". Things are happening in the background (good or bad, we'll eventually find out) . You don't run a football club like LFC and "do nothing" because that's the recipe for failure, and a rather speedy one given the nature of the business. What's happening in those offices upstairs always reflects itself on to the field, rather quickly. And I personally see nothing that LFC has done, since being bought by FSG, as being truly horrendous or shambolic. The trajectory has been regularly going up. Some mis-steps for sure, but it's a business, and every business will try out new things to see what the market will bear and what it will not.
But fine. Some of us need to throw some toys out of the pram, from time to time. So be it.
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22 Jan 2025 10:33:46
Fair point Ed. I'm not old enough to watch the players you mentioned, so can't comment on that. Didn't Liverpool fall off quite badly once the like of Daglish and Rush retire or leave the club. The 90s to early 20s were a bad time to be a Liverpool supporters.
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{Ed025's Note - when you say bad mate its never actually been that bad, football always has peaks and troughs and the Liverpool fan base has always had high expectations so they think that not finishing near the top is a disaster, you have not finished in the bottom half since Methuselah was a lad..
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22 Jan 2025 17:26:08
Mfahmee2 - when rush retired Fowler took over, when Fowler left Owen was there. When Owen left there was a short gap before Torres joined. When Torres left we had Suarez, when Suarez left we got some dude called mo Salah. When Salah leaves we will find another. Oddly enough striker is the one position we always seem to find a world class replacement, and most of the time they're quite cheap as well.
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{Ed025's Note - i know Nevada...it makes me sick.. :)
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22 Jan 2025 21:29:34
we have the deepest squad in the league, maybe the world.
the 90s were bad because we had a sh*t owner who sat on the success of previous decades and then just watched ManU walk past us.
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22 Jan 2025 22:16:16
When we have success on the Pitch that it has absolutely nothing to do with the club and the way it is run is an absolutely bonkers thing to think!
I detest Man U with a passion but they, like us, are rich in heritage and even in their lowly position the resources they have (including the manager) are not bottom half table resources but just look at them in the field of play they typically seem disinterested demotivated by the club. It isn’t the manager that is demotivating them a new guy with a passion and some credibility it is the wider organisation of the club. If our players were as disenchanted with this club there is absolutely no way we would be where we are.
You can read it all on the field of play, it couldn’t be hidden!
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23 Jan 2025 17:52:16
@Seano, you mention that the players are performing really well on the pitch despite what the owners do - quick question - who put the players on the pitch .
General point - in the second half of last season a sizeable proportion of this board was wetting itself because Klopp was leaving. Where will we find a manager anywhere near as good? We need Xabi because he is brilliant (how’s he going this season by the way? ), we need Amorim (ditto) . We’re doomed I tells ya. The club is being run by fools who don’t know what they are doing (despite being the ones who listened to advice and brought Klopp in) . Then of course, they brought Slot in and miraculously the players are performing exceptionally well despite what the club do.
This year we are collectively wetting ourselves about the three lads whose contracts are up at the end of the season. Of course the club are rubbish and can’t do anything right so no doubt the three will leave, most of the rest of the squad will demand transfers in sympathy for their fellow players and Slot will be shown the door despite winning the PL and CL as he couldn’t be ar$ed buying players in the transfer window. Or perhaps we should just wait and see what happens (@Frode close your eyes for this bit), perhaps the people running the business do have a couple of ideas that might just work.
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25 Jan 2025 05:13:17
Thanks Seano at last someone has called a spade a spade 😂.
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