Liverpool FC Rumours

01 Feb 2026 08:36:31
So, rumours of us signing Lutsharel Geertruida are starting to hot up. We have a real desperate need for a full back and centre back, and he fulfills both criteria's in one. Sounds like a loan, rather than a permanent transfer, though. So could very well earn a move to us with positive performances. Although, it will raise his price at the same time. Feel for Sunderland, as he has been a mainstay with them, but screw them :P

All makes sense to me. Hopefully get this over the line.

01 Feb 2026 08:55:04
Does make perfect sense. Can play all along a back 4 or 3 and holding midfielder. Honestly thought he would have been one of Slot's first signings.

01 Feb 2026 08:59:44
Ornstein reporting it, so must have legs.

Taking over his loan apparently. Makes sense imo - not many better, achievable options out there in this window.

01 Feb 2026 09:10:28
Certainly would suggest they continue to back Slot, if this does happen. He's a Slot man through and through.

01 Feb 2026 09:11:30
He was linked with us a before he joined them, so could be something in it.

Can we loan him given the arrangement with Sunderland?

01 Feb 2026 09:44:43
I've always been a big fan of his and have always wanted us to sign him, he has always come across as a lovely guy and is a good footballer, I'm sure slot can see him get back to his best again.

01 Feb 2026 09:50:16
Seems like a player can have two loans in a season arranged in different windows to answer my own question, and also so long as the clubs aren't linked. It's being reported Sunderland want a replacement in first, so not yet nailed on.

01 Feb 2026 10:15:49
Frimpong injured on Weds, wait til window almost closed to make late move. Hope it happens like, want Dom in midfield, but.

01 Feb 2026 10:54:05
Would be a versatile addition and loan is a good idea, considering the changes at the top and summer rebuild that has been mentioned.

01 Feb 2026 10:56:38
I can't see Sunderland agreeing to cut his loan short so liverpool can loan him?

01 Feb 2026 12:24:22
Ok now this would be a sensible move for January. It shows that they recognise the issue and actually want to do something about it.

01 Feb 2026 12:33:21
Give them Calvin.

01 Feb 2026 12:50:32
Ramsey to them would be a good shout if they were interested. Needs games desperately and a run of games somewhere. I have to say I don't know what position he plays for Sunderland. Is it midfield or defensive?

31 Jan 2026 17:30:41
Liverpool update. – Xabi Alonso

Liverpool have reached a verbal agreement with Xabi Alonso to become the club's next head coach, subject to final contract details.

The deal is in place in principle for the 2026 transition, with Alonso committing to the project as the long-term successor.

Manchester City have not yet approached Alonso or his representatives – contrary to some reports, no formal contact has been made from the Etihad.

Liverpool are actively exploring an alternative structure that would allow Alonso to join immediately rather than waiting until the summer. This option carries additional complexities around compensation, legalities, and the handling of Arne Slot's current contract.

Arne Slot's departure is now a firm decision – whether that occurs immediately or at the end of the season remains the only outstanding question.

No player is happy with Arne Slot and his training methods. Some players have said he is too calm.

Alonso wants this job.

The wheels are turning at pace. A reunion with the 2005 hero is moving from possibility to near-certainty.

More on timing and structure as it finalises.

Some boy wilson on x apparently confirmed this. How accurate it is nobody knows i suppose.

31 Jan 2026 17:48:06
Well some people will know how accurate it is, officials at Liverpool, Alonso's agent, Alonso himself.

Thanks for passing it on.

31 Jan 2026 18:54:22
"Liverpool are actively exploring an alternative structure that would allow Alonso to join immediately rather than waiting until the summer. This option carries additional complexities around compensation, legalities, and the handling of Arne Slot's current contract. "

Or we could just pay out his contract.

31 Jan 2026 19:35:58
I'm not saying there aren't some genuine ITKs that post here but the amount of people now posting to get attention is getting out of hand.

31 Jan 2026 20:04:48
Really appreciate the itks, but I do find these pretend itk posts beyond belief. Just takes a weird psychological profile to pretend to know something beyond your ken….

31 Jan 2026 20:10:25
Tbf to OP, he did post his source, and not that he is ITK.

31 Jan 2026 20:46:55
Only ones I pay any attention to are Carra and TheFields.

31 Jan 2026 22:38:17
I'll respect Slot and forever be grateful for what he did last season. But the football we've played this season has been nothing short of awful. Yes the players have a massive part or play. Mistakes, lack of bite etc is unforgivable but slot sets the tempo, tactics and master plan and to be frank he's got it horribly wrong.

This squad has been reigned in, shackled and nullified with his tactics. Thank you but we must move on.

31 Jan 2026 22:42:48
Dont pay attention to any of them.

31 Jan 2026 22:53:12
Just copied and pasted off Twitter from Wilson cox.

31 Jan 2026 23:30:58
Metal Mickey - Its a copy and paste from WilsonCoxLFC on twittwer. OP clearly states that at the bottom of the post, he never claimed to be in the know.

01 Feb 2026 01:35:15
It's a rumour he's reposted give the lad a break, thanks for taking the time.

01 Feb 2026 01:39:12
Thanks chewy and the kop army.

Im not in the know, Clearly some people don't read the whole post.

Again the Eds should change the title of the page to "Liverpool facts". To let certain posters get their ocd rubbed.

Just trying to pass on certain bits of information that might spark a debate and let people that haven't intrest or time to monitor other sources get some rumours to mull over.

Keep it to yourselves but I did hear we are signing. copied and pasted from the Sunday world.

01 Feb 2026 03:12:15
@Ecogsi, perhaps 2 wins in 4 days with an aggregate score of 10 - 1, auto qualification to the last 16 of the CL and a pasting for the Geordies might be a little bit of a start?

01 Feb 2026 06:10:28
Dont forget the unbeaten in 16 run just a week or two back WDW.

01 Feb 2026 08:45:39
Fingers crossed WDW but we have to approach games like that every week not one in six.

01 Feb 2026 09:46:32
"Liverpool facts"

Lol.

31 Jan 2026 13:07:03
Hello all,

Liverpool have asked about availability and price for Brugge left back Joaquin Seys.

Signing would be for the summer.

Ta.

31 Jan 2026 13:18:50
Cheers, as always, Carra.

31 Jan 2026 13:18:55
Im for gettign 5m for robbo now rather than nothing in all fairness. That would depend on bringing someone in though.

31 Jan 2026 13:24:49
Joaquin Seys it's true.

31 Jan 2026 13:25:09
Cheers Carra! Straight on YouTube to watch every time he's kicked a ball!

31 Jan 2026 13:31:12
Cheers, Carra.

Had hoped we might get his team mate, Joel Ordonez, this month to help us out.

31 Jan 2026 13:32:03
sounds like another leak detecting rumour / name. plugging those holes.

31 Jan 2026 13:41:51
why r we getting a left back? as back up to Kerkez?

31 Jan 2026 13:45:20
I'm just wondering what the point is in asking about players when we know we're getting a new manager in the summer. What if the new manager doesn't feel he is right for the setup he wants to implement? And if these are players bought without his input, how can they expect success on the pitch with such a transfer model? It's like telling someone to become a mechanic and choosing his tools for him, when you yourself know nothing about fixing cars.

I don't get it.

31 Jan 2026 14:03:21
Passes the YouTube test.

31 Jan 2026 14:30:22
Apparently he can play as a right full back and on the wing too, looks a useful player.

31 Jan 2026 15:31:15
That's why we have a head coach now instead of a manager, Bulk. The head coach is able to inform on the kind of player he needs but doesn't have final say as to the player who is actually brought in. We need an LB regardless though so getting one in makes sense.

31 Jan 2026 15:32:51
Incredible bulk we won't be bringing in a new manager it will be a head coach.

31 Jan 2026 15:33:58
Both Robbo and Tsimikas will be off and Beck won't make it. Chambers is the one but needs experience.

31 Jan 2026 15:45:25
We'll end up with Simon seys.

31 Jan 2026 15:48:54
We don't know we are getting a new manager in the summer Mr Incredible Bulk.

The ITKs here have said we are but they said Semenyo was done about an hour before he broke it was going to City. Not having a go at them or saying they're unreliable, but they have said certain things that haven't panned out.

31 Jan 2026 16:03:59
Thanks, Carra.

One of them players who loves to get forward but defensively gets caught out often, I've only seen him a few times though so probably wrong to have an opinion on the lad.

31 Jan 2026 16:30:25
Another more suited to playing wing back.
Can see us playing 3-5-2 next season whether it is Slot or Alonso.

31 Jan 2026 17:07:26
Hi Bulk

We don't have a manager we have a coach and the role of a coach is to get the best out of the players they are given.

31 Jan 2026 17:08:10
Finally!

After all those years the Joaquin rumours are back ?.

31 Jan 2026 17:57:33
Nice one Carra. Any sign of activity in the rest of this window?
Thanks.

31 Jan 2026 18:28:28
Karius passed the YouTube test for a lot of posters back in the day. Just saying.

31 Jan 2026 18:37:41
Blast from the past, Ron.

31 Jan 2026 18:51:06
My point is Dracred / Ravelston / Jari, is that Alonso (apparently) will be the new "head coach". So why are they looking at bringing players in when Slots not even got one toe out the door yet? Not to mention that both, or one of Edwards and Hughes could be following him. Then there's the coaching staff. Can this new player they want to buy be coached to the best of his abilities with the incoming staff, whoever they are?

It's all too bizarre of a model to work under if i'm honest. Can't say it's worked out too well for us this season. I know if i was in charge of the team, i would want to have the final say on who i am going to coach rather than some pencil pusher.

31 Jan 2026 19:05:49
Excellent Carra. That's an inspired left field spot and fits into Alonsos style of play.

31 Jan 2026 19:49:28
What year was that Ron?.15-20 years.?. seems like yesterday!

31 Jan 2026 21:19:58
It's a shame the rumours page died. It used to be really good fun. E
When did it switch to the majority of people taking everything people say literally and either attacking the contributor or believing 100% that what has been posted is absolutely bound to happen. Like I say, it used to be a laugh.

31 Jan 2026 23:49:58
Is Joaquin Spanish for Simon?

01 Feb 2026 10:01:22
Great player Joaquin, the equivalent of an aspas or a totti for betis.

31 Jan 2026 05:43:42
Hearing that Mama is joining Besiktas on loan, which frees up a non homegrown place for Dumfries. Makes sense as allows Frimpong to play further forward when he's back from injury.

31 Jan 2026 08:54:39
Isn't Dumfries injured and not played since November?

31 Jan 2026 08:59:43
Imagine Dumfries and Frimpong returning from injury in the same game. March 1?
Watch out West Ham, the rehab brothers are coming to ambush ya!

31 Jan 2026 09:50:32
All of these mad rumours are designed to smoke out the moles. Ali's injury record, plus woodman being championship level mean there is no way Mamma is leaving on loan. He came in knowing he would be back up.

Dumfries, Jones, Mama rumours do not make sense - they are planted rumours, with a specific intention.

31 Jan 2026 09:51:30
Lets get harry Kewell back for the left wing also.

31 Jan 2026 10:02:40
Ken Aguero eating a meatball marinara in Aigburgh.

31 Jan 2026 11:45:21
Never heard of Dumfries…. is he any good?

31 Jan 2026 12:16:58
I would love to see Dumfries playing for us!
He is a very good player and i will never forget last years CL semis against Barca. He had 2 goals and 3 assists in those 2 matches and was easily the best player on the pitch!

31 Jan 2026 12:54:20
I love the idea of Edwards engaging in a bit of Wagatha Christie to smoke the mole out. Bring Coleen in as a consultant - she'll crack the case straight away.

31 Jan 2026 12:58:57
Quiet Earp, he's nearly 30, just coming back from surgery and won't be available until March. There's literally no point signing him. He also looks very injury prone having missed 14 games last season and 25 this season. Arthur Melo vibes here.

31 Jan 2026 14:12:19
Surprise! Another Dutch signing.

01 Feb 2026 00:50:28
Im still waiting for Simao.

30 Jan 2026 23:41:04
An enquiry happened and that's as far as it went. Jones remains commited to the club.

The falling out rumours are just that, rumour as well.

31 Jan 2026 02:48:32
That is excellent news, mate. ?.

31 Jan 2026 04:27:14
It was his bday yesterday and he was in Training and slot wished him and the team clapped and slit joked he is now 25 and one of the big boys.

There is a video proof of that. This indy kaila dude is just over the top.

31 Jan 2026 05:07:02
I'd expect lots of rumours leading up to deadline day. Well we usually do lol but more so than usual as journos and those random fan pages on social media try to monetize Liverpool fans desperation for transfer news.

31 Jan 2026 07:35:02
Thanks the fields, makes complete sense.

31 Jan 2026 08:45:20
Hi TheFields,

What was the inquiry about?

31 Jan 2026 08:56:41
If its a Dutch style birthday he has to bring the buns and cakes and sausage rolls for everyone, Gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag, Curtis.

31 Jan 2026 13:26:38
Smoking out the mole.

31 Jan 2026 13:48:24
If he was available RRH.

Aye 1jj, a lot of the rumours that are flying about are just balls. If I posted half the stuff I've heard over the past week, you would know that.

31 Jan 2026 14:12:43
Jones worth at least 50mil.

{Ed025's Note - hmmmmm..

31 Jan 2026 18:01:08
50 million for Jones ????.

30 Jan 2026 23:24:04
. For jones may I add, Tottenham have been speaking on Jones all window and his availability.

31 Jan 2026 04:28:42
He is the last player wanting to leave.

30 Jan 2026 23:23:09
Tottenham are also asking for a loan, with an option to buy in the summer.

31 Jan 2026 07:15:05
Second word from the club should be 'off'.

31 Jan 2026 14:13:24
Loan a player to weaken us and yet do not buy? Get off.

30 Jan 2026 23:16:43
And just like that Paul Joyce has killed the Jones exit rumour! Said it in previous thread, this Fabrizio rumour frenzy had BS and sensationalizing all over it! Turning an inter approach or contact into 'Club to Club talks' so that it looks like Liverpool could sell…complete crap and further proof that Fabrizio is a clickbait fraud.

31 Jan 2026 02:51:00
It's a slow news window. I'm sure there are lots and lots of contacts to check potential player availability and interest. The bigger the club the more sensational a simple enquiry becomes.

31 Jan 2026 08:55:57
Fabrizio posted 5-0 final score on Wednesday just before chiesa scored, then quickly deleted it. My son screenshoted it to me. He's desperately trying to keep himself relevant. He's as big a fraud as.

31 Jan 2026 10:38:12
Frabrizio thought hertz van rental was a dutch center half Liverpool were after . YNWA.

30 Jan 2026 23:06:04
Anybody hear the rumors about Curtis to Inter Milan?

31 Jan 2026 14:14:09
Jones to inter and Dumfries to us. Doesn't make sense.

31 Jan 2026 19:34:45
More chance of Curtis going to inter flora.

30 Jan 2026 21:50:30
Jones isn't being let go without a replacement, not when Slot has openly complained about the size of his squad after the injuries. I have seen a few rumours suggesting that Inter Milan are recalling Benjamin Pavard from Marseille and are going to loan him out to Liverpool in order to make the Jones deal happen (it's also dependent on Frattesi joining Nottingham Forest).


In terms of depth squad depth I think Slot will be forced to replace Jones from within, it likely means Nyoni will get more minutes (after rumours about how he was unhappy about his lack of opportunities, this is one that he'll have to take), got to get the academy conveyor belt moving again I suppose.

30 Jan 2026 22:35:26
I'd imagine we'd more likely recall
Elliot for 5 million.

30 Jan 2026 22:41:35
At the start of the season Slot came out in an interview and said he wanted to "atttack" on all four fronts - the League, Champions League, tthe FA Cup and the Carabao (League) Cup, in his next sentence he said how he likes working with a small squad. a complete dillusion!

One of our main problems is midfield, now I won't pretend to be Jones' biggest fans, for mine, squad player at best, but in my opinion our midfield is too lightweight and needed bolstering in the summer, but it didn't happen. now, Slot basically plays the same four midfielders (oh fatigue), but, if the club allows Jones to go on loan (don't think Curtis would agree) to Inter it would highlight how dire the sittuation at the club is.

30 Jan 2026 22:49:15
I'm not a fan of Curtis jones. But at this moment in time. I'd rather have him here than Arne. He's ruining this team with his stupid decisions.

30 Jan 2026 23:20:22
This is strange one. I still have faith in the suits so i like to think something is planned here, no way they can leave Arne (or whoever) this short. If Jones is being left go early id seriously expect Morgan Rodgers, Elliot Anderson level signing up their sleeve and that's a pipe dream at this stage of the season.
The bust up seems plausible but Arne is too pragmatic and stoic to let that come between the season. Jones loves the club too much to leave because of a coach who is half way out the door.

The suits are too clever to leave a scouser, home grown prime aged solid squad player go without reason especially since a new coach could come in soon and highly rate Jones. Maybe it doesn't even happen but Fabrizio sounded like it was far along.
If we let Jones go and take some inter deadwood as cover or even consider recalling Eliiot as cover i will be extremely worried.
For me either Jones stays or theirs a surprise signing close.

{Ed025's Note - dont believe all that Fabrizio says Funky..

30 Jan 2026 23:23:43
Actually Jones to inter, Fratessi to Forest, Elliot Anderson to. ;)

30 Jan 2026 23:32:47
Slot doesn't make decisions on ins and outs LFC8.

31 Jan 2026 02:54:53
??? @Jari, don't let the truth get in the way of another dig at Slot. The fact that people don't know what they are talking about isn't a hindrance to them giving an opinion, which, of course they are entitled to do.

30 Jan 2026 21:45:24
This is the exact rumour:

There was a bust up in the dressing room after the loss to Bournemouth. This involved Virgil van Dijk and Curtis Jones with Arne Slot.

Curtis and Virgil were particularly vocal in the dressing room calling out tactics and efforts. This did no go down well with Arne and whilst Virgil kept his cool, Curtis did not.

As a result, Curtis Jones was dropped from the squad against Qarabag and is now linked to a loan move to Inter.

It is worth noting this is not the first bust up involving the manager. Robertson, Mac Allister and Salah too have had bust ups with the manager this season.

30 Jan 2026 21:57:33
Credit Wilson Cox LFC.

30 Jan 2026 22:01:55
If the club are willing to get rid of Jones because of a bust up with Slot it would indicate that the club are backing Slot and don't intend on letting him go anytime soon.

30 Jan 2026 22:03:13
Stevie G is edging closer for the short term. He will command respect and unify the players, if nothing else.

I can see it now in future pub quizes. Which playing legend won a CL in his only stint at his home town club, despite only being a manager there for 4 months.

30 Jan 2026 22:05:04
The club is an absolute mess.

30 Jan 2026 22:10:47
Jones is passionate but he's gone on record many times to say Slot's style and tactics really suit him as a player. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it's hard to believe.

30 Jan 2026 22:12:47
Cheers Wallace yeah.

30 Jan 2026 22:31:25
If Jones wasn't a scouse, would there be such a clamour to play him? I very much doubt it. If Jones wasn't English he would be at best been seen as a utility player. He runs around a lot but doesn't do much apart from that. Guys, no other top club in the PL would take him.

30 Jan 2026 23:13:33
My one wish after Mr. Klopp, which i posted at the time was . "strong preference for not a Dutch manager. " When Hughes is sacked, will the job be advertised on Indeed.com?

30 Jan 2026 23:25:48
A player that every club needs.

Local lad, plays everywhere, gives everything, doesn't moan or whinge when not starting, not on huge wages, has passion. Yeh let's get rid of him. F'ing ridiculous decision if he goes.

I'd rather have Jones as manager than Slot right now!

30 Jan 2026 23:27:28
Dutch manager won us a PL title. What were you hoping for?

30 Jan 2026 23:30:45
Curtis has been far from our worst performers this year….

31 Jan 2026 00:23:19
I don't believe any of that.

31 Jan 2026 00:53:21
No top team would want Curtis jones? When are our fans going to rate the lad and give him his due finally?

31 Jan 2026 07:32:06
Spurs want him and they are currently the 4th best team in Europe and 14th best in England.

31 Jan 2026 07:39:36
Sorry PB, you are right, let's give him his due, Spurs are rumoured to be interested in signing Jones.

31 Jan 2026 07:42:30
@FSGenius75, and those who clicked the thumbs up …. Were you asleep when we achieved automatic qualification for one of the world's major football competitions this week.

The club haven't performed as well as we want / hoped but to call it an "absolute mess" just means you are showing your ignorance re the running of a multi billion global business.

31 Jan 2026 10:33:33
Take the bit about Curtis is a local lad out of the equation and he has been a bitter disappointment like most of them.
look at these stats.20 premier league games 1 goal, no assist.157 crosses into the box 7 finding a red shirt.
Shots 14, on target 4.Passes 957, Key passes 17. Dribbles 22, successful 15. Dispossessed 15 times. 111 ground duels 56 won.
He might be from Liverpool but his stats over the season show me my eyes don't lie.

I see him run around a lot without doing anything, but small safe passes and when he is asked to do stuff in the opponents box he falls short.
Before you Curtis club fan boys tell me he cares about the club. So does fat Eddie who sits next to me on the kop, but I know he isn't good enough either.

31 Jan 2026 13:12:31
Really harsh assessment that Itstrue.

Eddie isn't that fat.

01 Feb 2026 11:28:56
If we continue to play like we did against Newcastle this season May not be such a disaster after all, plus a special mention to Ibu's performance last night, whilst Wirtz and Hugo will take most of the plaudits for Stella performances, Ibu returned from a personal tragedy early coz he wanted to help the team out and was inspired, maybe this season has weighed heavy on him with it going on the background.

The goal gave me Ali vibes. I don't care who's in charge or making signing decisions if we play exciting football that entertains and has me on the she of my seat.

30 Jan 2026 21:03:54
@TheFields are the rumours of Jones to Inter true. This would be a diabolical decision by Hughes and Edwards if true. We are so short on bodies, and its not even a straight sale. Its like the Elliot deal. For all we know he might be on the bench and both him and the club lose.

Also, why does it feel like we are emptying our soul. If we sanction this move, I will legit lose all faith in the board. Oh I miss the vibes of the Klopp era.

30 Jan 2026 21:29:31
I totally agree, utter madness if that's allowed to happen.

30 Jan 2026 21:30:29
I believe there was a bust up between jones and slot hence the reason jones didn't feature against quarabag. Althought the club said he was ill. Jones on loan until the end of the seaon, slot gets sack jones back at lfc.

30 Jan 2026 21:35:41
Aye koparmy, means nothing tho. As I've said previously CJ is fully committed to the cause.

He was ill Yorkie ??.

30 Jan 2026 21:43:49
Bust up or not, we are incredibly short on numbers. Further, he seems to genuinely care about the club. If we do sanction this deal, it would be clear that Slot is not going anywhere soon. Otherwise, the board wouldn't sanction this deal even if he had a falling out with him.

30 Jan 2026 21:52:58
Whilst I'm not convinced that Jones is a future starter for our midfield I find it unthinkable that jones would be allowed to leave in any capacity this window without a direct replacement being brought in. Our squad is paper thin with injuries with the prospect of playing Szob at RB for the coming weeks so why allow Jones to leave when he is one of our rotation options.

Lots of talk online of bust up but this is only being reported after the inter rumours so I'm at present calling bull on that part!

30 Jan 2026 22:05:59
Hopefully jones is off. He isn't good enough and it will give Nyoni more game times.

30 Jan 2026 21:45:33
This is crazy! its ok saying that Yorkie but what do we do in the meantime? Jones starts or is 1st sub to come on in a lot of games. Giving an italian team an obligation to buy is just idiotic aswell. A story so stupid i wouldn't be giving it the time of day if it wasnt Romano reporting it.

30 Jan 2026 21:45:33
This is crazy! its ok saying that Yorkie but what do we do in the meantime? Jones starts or is 1st sub to come on in a lot of games. Giving an italian team an obligation to buy is just idiotic aswell. A story so stupid i wouldn't be giving it the time of day if it wasnt Romano reporting it.

30 Jan 2026 22:45:05
The sooner this man is gone the better. Tearing the club apart on and off the pitch. Arrogant beyond belief.

30 Jan 2026 22:46:04
Here my prediction, not ITK but just my opinion, Jones has one year left on his contract in the summer, Inter may need a midfielder, Inter contact Liverpool and ask about his availability on loan to buy. Liverpool say no deal mid season. Reports come out that Liverpool in talks to sell Jones because yes there was a conversation between clubs and then all the Twitter crap drums up about potential bust ups.

Just my opinion but I fail to believe the club would ever consider selling jones in the short term when trying to chase down CL football and currently in the final 16.

30 Jan 2026 23:03:48
I think you may just be right Dow-ney.

31 Jan 2026 07:37:45
Last week some of us were "disgusted" that the owners would allow Robbo to leave …….

This week it's "utter madness" to get rid of Curtis.

Of course both sentiments are correct but to assume every time some 'no mark' dreams up some garbage clickbait, to automatically jump to the worst possible outcome and automatically vilify the owners really is a waste of emotion.