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19 Jun 2018 20:45:13
3 Charity game videos are on youtube. Search Matt Hawker Cup.

benny baller

1.) 19 Jun 2018 23:12:44
Thank you Benny.

2.) 20 Jun 2018 00:19:14
Great occasion, great game, awesome kits and the cameramen were at worst, brilliant! Hope you double your ambitions. Well done to All of you!

3.) 20 Jun 2018 08:48:53
mk scouser isn't a scouser? bizarre username.

4.) 20 Jun 2018 08:58:44
im sure you are not a bamboo.

5.) 20 Jun 2018 10:47:37
Pretty sure it is a reference to being an adopted scouser for having supported Liverpool probably most his life. Not that it matters.

6.) 20 Jun 2018 11:13:21
Nailed It, Adam.

7.) 20 Jun 2018 13:18:46
Is it too late to sign up for the next game?

8.) 20 Jun 2018 23:50:05
Also MK for Milton Keynes after moving a few years back if I remember correctly.

9.) 20 Jun 2018 10:47:37
Pretty sure it is a reference to being an adopted scouser for having supported Liverpool probably most his life. Not that it matters.



18 Jun 2018 11:24:45
Ed001/ 002. Clear your diaries for June 15th 2019 if you can? We will see if we can hold on to OUR cup.

Ps, highlights will be on YouTube tonight.

benny baller

{Ed001's Note - it was a fluke you got it!}

1.) 18 Jun 2018 16:38:38
Guys appologies for the drop out things still not sorted but life goes on.

Any chance of securing a stadium for the day and perhaps a tournament on there?

2.) 18 Jun 2018 17:12:22
Hi can we have highlights of the event?

3.) 18 Jun 2018 17:55:14
Stg Ken’s speech and captains hairdryer on Mahfuz were the absolute highlights of the day mate, closely followed by his swan lake dive on the edge of the box. He is the nicest Man Utd fan in the world mate, unless of course he has made good on his promise to burn the official Liverpool Mo Salah Egyptian King crown 👑 we gave him, in which case he’s a stereotypical manc after all 😵.

4.) 18 Jun 2018 20:26:01
what is the match called on YouTube? Ps well done around lads.

{Ed033's Note - Benny Baller hasn't uploaded it yet



01 Jun 2018 09:07:09
Two weeks and a day till the biggest game of the season. The football-rumours charity game.
8 months of prep comes down to this 😋
Firstly, I would like to thank the editors for their support and help in getting this set up.
Secondly, their are 3 spots left, so if you'd like to play the game, based in north Oxfordshire on the 16th, give me a text : call on 07719565417 for more details.
The opportunity to be in a 50/ 50 with MK Scouser is too good a chance to miss surely?
If you can't attend but want to watch the match, we have you covered, the game will be streamed live on the football-rumours Facebook page, so get following today guys.
Fingers crossed Ed002 is in the country and can attend 🤞🏼.

benny baller

{Ed002's Note - The kit is being shipped to you today Benny - I will be away from the UK at that poing but I can get back in I will.}

1.) 01 Jun 2018 10:58:05
Brilliant stuff, sorry I can't be there but will be watching. Have fun guys 😎.

2.) 01 Jun 2018 11:00:39
Best of luck with it all Benny and everyone involved, I would offer to play but my feet are like 20p's (my first touch really could go anywhere) to the point where my own team would be trying to leave one on me out of frustration! Plus i would be out of breath just putting the kit on.

3.) 01 Jun 2018 11:05:27
Brilliant. I’m slightly worried we are going to have 11 shirts with your face spread across the front.
I know it’s a slim chance of you being there, but if you did, as a thanks to everyone making the effort to play and travel, do you think we could have a live Q&A where each player gets to ask you one question after the game😇 obviously there will be ground rules, I. e no talk of work, no camera phones and obviously no #wonderdogsparkyout banners.
I’d assume with your schedule you’d have to shoot off after, but you don’t get if you don’t ask.

{Ed002's Note - As long as they are kept in cages. I will try.}

4.) 01 Jun 2018 11:27:43
Best of luck lads would love to be around for it.

What's the rumours Facebook page? Can never find it, although to be honest prefer looking at the site anyways but would like to see some of this match.

5.) 01 Jun 2018 15:47:14
This is so great. Really want to come but not certain on travel arrangements and getting there etc. Would love to play if I could.
With the Facebook page, does anyone have the link or exact wording for the page. When I search it, I get Liverpool FC latest/ transfer news but I am not sure if that is it and the other pages are out of date?

6.) 01 Jun 2018 15:52:43
I wish I could come and support you guys but my circumstances will not permit this time.
If I have a few quid spare I will try to donate a small sum.
I really hope I will be able to participate next year.
Me and Harry in the same team please.

7.) 01 Jun 2018 16:01:12

8.) 01 Jun 2018 17:01:38
Just realised I'm only an hour or so away but I will be in lanzerote when the games on, would have been a good craic. Hope you have a great day.

9.) 01 Jun 2018 18:11:32

Ed002: read the F. posts 😄.

10.) 01 Jun 2018 18:32:31
The link Benny showed for the Facebook link appears to be incorrect. I tried it as want to watch the game next week but says no link found.

11.) 01 Jun 2018 19:13:29
Thanks for the link. Worked fine search that in the search bar Walter and it’s the first. Benny baller right there so you know it’s theres.

With the match. I might try and make it but it will be super late notice. Don’t hold anything for me but I may be a late introduction :)

12.) 01 Jun 2018 19:54:19
Imagine that Ron 😂.

13.) 02 Jun 2018 08:16:32
The link is working now.



22 May 2018 13:06:36

There are a few spots left for the Site Posters charity match next month.

As I want full squads and we are getting close to the date, the match fee will be whatever you are happy to donate to SEVA foundation and Macmillan Nurses.

Details are as follows:
16th June, 3pm KO
Wroxton Sports Club
Horley Road, Wroxton, Oxon OX15 6PY
There are cheap local hotels, and as some of the lads have already mentioned, plenty of beer joints!

I am in the process of adding all current participants to a whatsapp group. So I will put my back up phone number here, god forbid I put my usual number :)
Whatsapp / text me asap, if you can attend and play.

The game will streamed live on the football rumours facebook page.

If any one reading this wants to donate to the above charities, there is a football rumours just giving donate page.

benny baller

{Ed002's Note - Benny, let me know what is needed from me.}

1.) 22 May 2018 14:55:23
This is brilliant and a great cause, really gutted I can't make it (my brother is home from foreign lands for first time in almost 3 years) .

To put faces to names on here would have been great (even those I don't agree with on much lol) - lads, I really hope you all have a great day at this!

2.) 22 May 2018 15:38:21
I wanted to donate but I m too scared of privacy and details o my card etc I m no from UK is their any safe method of donations.

3.) 22 May 2018 15:41:03
This is such a great idea. I hope there will be some photos or videos of the match!

4.) 22 May 2018 16:02:51
Adam it will be live streamed on the football rumours Facebook mate.

5.) 22 May 2018 15:36:39
Why don’t you an your brother play Irish :)
Ed if you’re still happy to supply your teams kit, that would be class. If not i have an old blue kit from when I ran my clubs. Entirely up to you, you have my email x.

{Ed002's Note - I am happy to buy a kit for the team, let me know where you want me to ship it to. Also, I assume large or extra large. Let me know. What colour are the other side wearing? Thanks Benny. If I am in England I will try and come along.}

6.) 22 May 2018 18:03:37
Okay Ed002 thanks a lot. I have emailed your PA my address. The other team are in red, so a blue kit would be nice. As for sizes I’d say 10 large 4 XL should cover all our beautiful figures. I’m hoping this becomes a yearly cup so will use the same kits each year. Some of the boys may get stage fright if you attend, hopefully you don’t give us the hairdryer treatment at half time 🙈.

{Ed002's Note - Leave it with me Benny. Obviously if they are Liverpool fans playing they will need the extra long knuckle-dragger sleeves - I will get the ones with the hump on the back. I will speak to Coral in a few days when I get back to England and she will get it in hand right away. I will also get something that does not clash with the red. So may plan for electric cerise is probably down the pan. Really appreciate your efforts and will see if I can maybe fly back for this.}

7.) 22 May 2018 19:57:36

I’m available to play 😃
I live in Oxfordshire.

8.) 22 May 2018 20:25:14
Why don’t Liverpool rumours buy 2 kits. Get go fund page and make it an annual thing. Each year get all players/ contributors to sign their name and something they can all look back on in how ever many years.

I know some spots left but if you are going do it Benny do it properly and leave a legacy pal.

9.) 22 May 2018 19:50:14
Hump back, knuckle draggers, love it. Good to know your acerbic wit has not deserted you. Never reign it in or tone it down ED2. If you wind up a few bigots on the way, all the better.

10.) 22 May 2018 20:46:46
Hey Taffy. I do take a little offence to the doing it properly comment 😂

1. It is going to be an annual thing. We have two new kits, kindly bought by Ed002 and Ken.
2. Up till a month a go I had Dermot Gallagher refereeing ( he’s now on Hol, but I’ve emailed another efl referee )
3. We have named it the Matt Hawker cup, a legacy to Ed001s best mate who died from leukaemia.
4. We have a lovely little venue
5. It’s being live streamed on Facebook
6. We should have raised a thousand pounds for the charities
7. We will all be wearing black arm bands in honour of grumpy from the Everton page.
And finally we have people flying in from abroad to play in this game, with the possibility of meeting THE ed 002.
I don’t know to do it any more properly lol.

Liver1980 that’s brilliant. Please can you text me on the number above when you’ve read this.

11.) 22 May 2018 21:58:05
Benny your efforts are appropriated. Stellar job mate and for a fantastic cause.

12.) 22 May 2018 21:38:26
Could somebody post a link to the Facebook page please? I’ve search football transfer rumours, and as expected, hundreds of search results appeared.

13.) 22 May 2018 22:42:53
Hi Benny, I can play if needed, let me know what I need to do! Cheers.

14.) 22 May 2018 22:44:26
What a guy you are Benny and what a gesture from Ed2, your a legend mate. I wish I could attend such an event but life is far too busy these days, hope everybody involved has a great time.

15.) 22 May 2018 22:49:45
Wit: if you look at the banter page, an identical post is there where you can click the links. It may be on page 2 but I think it’s still main page.
John: text me mate.
Salah + navy. Thanks :) let’s hope it all goes smoothly!

16.) 22 May 2018 22:51:43
Should have used the search engine haha, emailed you benny and texted, cheers.

17.) 23 May 2018 10:10:23
Benny, get me a medium kit if you can 😂 I'm 5ft8. A large will drown me 👀.

18.) 23 May 2018 08:51:01
Long time watcher of the site but only an occasional poster. Really applaud what you are doing and would gladly make a donation. My football days are long gone but I always like a good cause that has some effort behind it.
Is there a Just Giving page link or something similar?

{Ed033's Note - Yes, football rumours just giving

19.) 23 May 2018 14:55:13
I only live 3 miles from Wroxton. May well come down and give you guys some support but I've not played in years so I'll leave that to the rest of you. Good job in sorting all this by the way, Benny.

20.) 23 May 2018 19:06:20

Would love to get involved with this.
Don’t live too far away so if you are still looking for anyone to get involved then let me know!


{Ed025's Note - just text benny on the number above morro..

21.) 23 May 2018 21:07:50
Awesome cheers Ed’s. Messaged you Benny!

22.) 24 May 2018 07:51:14
Gutted to be missing this, flying in from Asia just a bridge too far. Hopefully one of these days it coincides with a business/ holiday trip back home.

One request, can you record the game somewhere so we can watch back? Oh, and at the start can we do a team lineup with each persons site names so we can put a face to Ed’s, Benny, MK, Waro etc. would be fascinating I’m sure.

Finally, make sure if Ed02 turns up, can we arrange for a throne to watch the match and make sure he/ she is suitably dressed in androgynous clothing and wearing a stig helmet. We don’t want to destroy the mystique.

23.) 25 May 2018 16:24:03
Benny I see there's 11 days to go and 30% of the target has been reached, please remind me a couple of days before the date and I'll try to make up whatever else is needed to reach the target.

24.) 25 May 2018 16:24:03
Benny I see there's 11 days to go and 30% of the target has been reached, please remind me a couple of days before the date and I'll try to make up whatever else is needed to reach the target.

{Ed002's Note - My PA tells me the hit has been ordered.}



30 Apr 2018 10:30:51
Gerrard to become Klopp assistant.

benny baller

1.) 30 Apr 2018 11:04:27
It wouldn't surprise me in the least, I think he'd much prefer to be assistant to Klopp then going and managing Rangers or one would've thought so anyway? A lot going on at the moment.

2.) 30 Apr 2018 11:20:16
It would utterly baffle me if SG were to be made assistant given that Buvac has not left as an employee at the club.

3.) 30 Apr 2018 12:30:49
He hasn't done anything to warrant such a job, not even close.

4.) 30 Apr 2018 12:32:12
Hey Benny, I said this first 😡.

5.) 30 Apr 2018 12:42:56
Anyone for bringing pako back!

6.) 30 Apr 2018 12:46:24
Is Liverpool FC some sort of pantomime it always happens too us crazy drama before big games, coutihno before champs league qualifiers and premium start, now buvac before massive week, and pako wid Rafa, come on lads sort it out will ya's.

7.) 30 Apr 2018 13:38:05
From, by his own admission, gradually learning his trade with the Liverpool youngsters, to second-in-command at LFC / Rangers manager?
Neither, for me.
He should just carry on where he is, perhaps with the occasional input to the first team, and learn from Klopp and the staff at the club.

I can't believe that Rangers would ask him, they're too big for that.
Or that Gerrard would accept, it's a mammoth job, with trouble written all over it.

8.) 30 Apr 2018 14:03:25
Club legend SG maybe but tactician?

9.) 30 Apr 2018 15:19:26
Why do people keep over exaggerating the position rangers are in as a club? They are nowhere near title challengers, just look at how many points they are behind yet again. It’s going to take a number of years for them to close that gap, through good player recruitment and development of a squad which can compete with Celtic’s far superior squad. Surely rangers fans are not all so caught up in their past glory’s not to miss these facts? Yes Gerrard has no 1st team experience, but why not go manage in a league where there is almost no competition, where he can only really make things better for the club? Rodgers has revived his reputation up there (now linked with the Arsenal job) .

10.) 30 Apr 2018 17:17:09
There’s no chance he’s getting the assistant job and rightly so. Why do people think cos he played for us for years he should become assistant boss? . completely baffling what experience does he have for the role absolutely none at all.

Let’s stop the silly ideas he’s going to be liverpool manager one day, never going to happen.




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13 Feb 2019 09:44:53
NASA has confirmed all united fans have returned back to earth safely.

benny baller

1.) 13 Feb 2019 09:58:50
Bit of a bump I heard 😄.

{Ed025's Note - i got told they struggled at OT because there was no atmosphere, im over the moon.. :)

2.) 13 Feb 2019 10:16:21
Pretty sure Pogba caught in the marquinhole.



23 Jan 2019 18:46:06
Alright guys, whilst i make a push for the last lot of match fees for the charity game, id like to direct everyone to the top of the page (iverpool banter) where there is a link if you'd like to donate to macmillan nurses and SEVA.

A quick reminder.
Lee's United (ed001) Vs Frunobulax Rovers (ed002)
June 15th
Oxford City football ground
Referee: Premier League and FIFA official Stuart Burt

We are hoping some of the editors can make a special guest appearance as well. There will be a bar, food etc.

Please help us reach our target gents.

benny baller

1.) 23 Jan 2019 19:25:37
Have you got 2 full sides now Benny. I couldn't make last year's event but would be up for it this year.

Let me know.




20 Jan 2019 12:27:10
Massive win yesterday.
In other news, after confirming the venue for the Matt Hawker charity game in June ( Oxford city )
I can now confirm the match referee will be FIFA and Premier league assistant referee, Stuart Burt.
Domestic cup finals.
7 years in the champions league.
10 years in the premier league.
2014 super cup.
Linesmen will be some youngsters from our coaching group.

benny baller

1.) 20 Jan 2019 12:42:46
Stuart Burt?

He never gives us anything 😡.

2.) 20 Jan 2019 12:58:04
I’m not one for omens Ron, but he has done Liverpool three times this season. Spurs, Huddersfield and arsenal. We won all 3 😊.

3.) 20 Jan 2019 15:32:38
What decisions has he got wrong for us, Ron? I can't remember any.

4.) 20 Jan 2019 22:51:32
I was just teasing (playing to the stereotype)

On a serious note I want to congratulate Benny for his sterling effort in organising this and to all the people giving up their time. A wonderful achievement all round 👏.

5.) 20 Jan 2019 23:43:56
My apologies then Ron! I genuinely thought you were questioning his integrity. I read too much into your emoji!



11 Jan 2019 13:00:12
Hey all. Oxford city have allowed us to host the Matt Hawker charity cup at their ground free of charge. So this is just a shout out to them, and to let anyone who's coming that it will be there.

benny baller

1.) 11 Jan 2019 13:33:24
Well done on securing that Benny, fair play to Oxford City too.

2.) 11 Jan 2019 14:23:41
Nice one by oxford, nice to hear that, and great work benny, you should be proud of your efforts.

3.) 11 Jan 2019 16:35:54
This is a great display of compassion. I applaud you Benny and everyone else who contributes. God bless you all.

I didn't know the guy but if I was in his shoes. I would be eternally humbled and honoured at this display of love.

Rest in Peace Matt.

4.) 11 Jan 2019 16:40:10
Quality Benny!

5.) 11 Jan 2019 17:44:48
Awesome thanks BB and OCFC 👏🏻.

6.) 11 Jan 2019 19:31:21
Well done Benny, and a great gesture from Oxford.

7.) 11 Jan 2019 19:59:44
Well done mate. Pretty soon as we’ll be playing it at the Kassam stadium!

8.) 11 Jan 2019 21:04:08
Look for the 20 foot model of a great white shark sticking up out of somebody's roof in the Headington area of Oxford!

9.) 11 Jan 2019 21:30:30
Went to Uni in Oxford and the Oxford City Ground is a cracking little ground. Good effort to get that one.

10.) 12 Jan 2019 15:15:12
Well done, that's marvelous news. proud of everyone involved.



10 Dec 2018 12:48:23
Read that Emre Can has made only 3 starts for juve this season. I think he was injured a little bit, but still, almost feel bad for him, he was never getting in ahead of Bentancur, Matuidi, Pjanic, Khedeira and even Dybala who sometimes drops into midfield.
The grass isn't always greener, but at least he will get a league medal in the second most, one team league, in Europe.

benny baller

1.) 10 Dec 2018 13:02:19
He’s not at that level yet frankly. It’s annoying signing a player young and full of promise and losing them for nothing, when they were starting to get better and better. His saving grace may be khedira and matuidi are getting on but he really needs to start more games.

2.) 10 Dec 2018 13:06:22
Come on Benny. It can't be only about medals? Don't you remember that one of the reasons he left (supposedly), was about not having Klopp's full confidence and more game time?

3.) 10 Dec 2018 13:22:26
But he played near enough every game when fit!?
Honestly, i wish him well, time will tell but fab could turn out to be an inspired signing.

4.) 10 Dec 2018 13:41:58
I just don’t get it. Why would you join a club not to play. I’m not saying he should of stayed at Liverpool ( I never actually rated him ) but it does make me wonder why players that can be deemed as having potential, would go and sit on a bench.
I think too many players this day and age want it all, immediately. When I was playing, the buzz knowing you was starting every week kept you focused, if you made mistakes you knew you could learn and put it right at the next game. All the training in the world doesn’t replace a competitive match. Only half way through a season, maybe he will turn it round.

5.) 10 Dec 2018 13:46:19
I honestly just never liked Can all that much as a player. He had his qualities but he never had the intelligence to apply himself as he should of done. He was a great dribbler, but he never seemed to dribble anywhere other than down a blind alley into the corner of the pitch. He was big and strong, but that never seemed to translate into him being much of an intelligent defensive player or strong tackler. He never showed much of a great passing range either. He was never really tencious or nimble enough to play under Klopp. I honestly just didn’t know what his best qualities were and where he should of played, Oxlade was a better attacking midfielder, Wijnaldum and Milner were better box to box players, Henderson was a better holding player. I could never see where he fitted in. Having said that i do think he will be fine at Juve in the end, and i am not spiteful for him having left. As Ed002 says, players are transiente employees of the club.

6.) 10 Dec 2018 14:36:17
Another one who will slip into the abyss. Nobody watches Juve unless their in CL and if he's not playing, then he'll be forgotten about.

{Ed0333's Note - Emre Can has a Thyroid nodule. This is an extremely serious situation which will probably require surgery and may worst case scenario end his career.

7.) 10 Dec 2018 16:29:07
Emre had an operation around October, due back training soon. Emre never really developed into the player he threatened to be, however still wish him luck and hope to see him get back in the team.

8.) 10 Dec 2018 16:35:20
In all fairness Ed he's actually had the surgery and is now available to play again.

{Ed001's Note - only just back.}

9.) 10 Dec 2018 19:20:32
Spot on, Ed333. To be fair, I found it strange that he was not playing as much so thanks to the Ed for dropping that piece of knowledge. Sadly, It seems some where dancing over his grave for not playing that much w/ o actually bothering to know why he was not playing. I personally do not have that much time for players who don't play for us anymore cos I am more about them having great careers even if it is not with us cos playing for us, is just a phase in a career and nothing more.

As for people having issues with him leaving, I propose we focus on the good things he did for us and the role he played in getting us to where we are now esp. in the 16/ 17 season where he played for weeks with a calf injury cos we had no depth and Klopp needed him. His superb goal helped us get top 4 that season vs Watford. I wish him well going forward and I wish others will just do the same and let the other bitter stuff go.

10.) 10 Dec 2018 22:25:32
No problem with Emre Can, gave 100% every time he pulled on the red shirt and was a model pro.

Best Wishes to him 👍.




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23 Jan 2019 12:45:16
Maybe he just wants no distractions for the run in. Wouldn’t worry.

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07 Dec 2018 23:46:39
You crack me up Firmino.

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26 Oct 2018 14:31:23
Glad we are looking at Ramsey tbh. Good player, adds strength In depth. Of course he would want first team action regularly, which will probably put an end to a deal being possible.
Hopefully he sees how our midfield 3 keep rotating this year and he bites.
Milner and Lallana can’t go on forever, unfortunately!

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06 Aug 2018 17:03:28
Yes he your source used Tim Krul as example 😂 school time be back soon.

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08 Jun 2018 16:51:01
Why didn’t your mate tell you about the fab interview 🤔.

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08 Feb 2019 22:36:06
Embarrassing Walter.

benny baller

{Ed025's Note - it is benny and unfortunately hes not the only one mate, whats up with some of your so called supporters?...or should i say spoiled brats..



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01 Feb 2019 22:20:33
It was funny. Would of been funnier if they hadn’t got spanked by Newcastle.

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31 Jan 2019 22:08:32
As long as you're not biting your bottom lip ed025, you know how that makes me feel ;)
You sending polecat to the conspiracy page is the general problem we have in this country, as in turning a blind eye to it and calling those who make the accusations crazy.
Let us not forget Clattenburgh inadvertently admitting to preempted decisions in the chelsea vs spurs game, or how even off-field issues such as a certain red nosed manager picking and choosing which journalists were allowed to press conferences at their ground, or a referee who did not ref a certain united club, for 3 years, after giving a penalty at their ground.

It's all there for those who wish to seek the truth :D.

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31 Jan 2019 13:52:04
Haha, wirral i explained why its a yellow, but still adamant it's a red? That's dedication to the cause bro.
As for your cheating claims, there have been many referees who cheat. The referee of chelsea vs Barcelona in the champions league, years ago, is the biggest act of cheating i have ever seen. I'll entertain your claims and play devils advocate to ed025. Are we too arrogant as a nation to believe our game is sacred? Wherever there is huge amounts of money, you will always find corruption. ( I'm not saying Atkinson is a cheat, or cheated last night ) But i have maintained for a decade that whilst we judge the italian league and others on match fixing, or the australian cricket team, we never seem to look on our own door step. David gill on the fa board whilst director at united coincided with their biggest ever dominance of the english game ( but no european dominance, strange ) Just an example of things the british turn a blind eye too.

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31 Jan 2019 11:11:19
DOGSO ( denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity) has two part.
One, the DOGSO itself, and two, the offence itself.
To sum up the offence side quickly, an honest attempt trying to play the ball, is a yellow card. Anything upper body or not trying to play the ball is a red. Also in or out the box comes in to play.

As the offence/ foul takes place, you must then freeze everything as if you’ve just taken a photo of where everything is, at the point of contact.
Then there is 4 criteria to look at to decide on DOGSO.
Control- is the attacker in control of the ball?
Direction- direction of the ball, is it going toward goal or away from?
Distance- this is the distance between the foul and the goal.
Defenders- at the point of contact, how many defender are around/ where are they located?

These are the 4 things we are to look for. You may all have different opinions, but I believe the yellow card was right, JUST!
I believe the other touch from the defender which slowed the ball and sent it wider, affects the direction. Just enough to save maguire, if there is no touch and that ball is ending up dead centre of the pitch, maguire is gone.

That’s my defending of him using logic. However.
The other day I listed the worse referees in the premier league. Atkinson seeing Keita cleared out, and not giving a penalty, is exactly why he and the other dinosaurs need to step down, and give up their 80k a year for referees who can actually do the job with pride and enthusiasm.
Referee of the week for me is Paul Tierney. To give the penalty against Fernandinho by being in a fantastic position, and for his booking of KDB, after clearly telling him to wait for the whistle, and KDB thinking he’s more important than the referee.

Ps, I wouldn’t of allowed last nights game to be played. The ball did not run true and the players were struggling to slow down and turn. That first half did not look safe. But I guess money talks.

benny baller