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18 Jul 2018 19:35:08
Why are both the echo and Sky reporting this Alisson deal as breaking the record that city paid for ederson? It may be the premier league record but the actual record was Buffon back in 2001.

On the subject of Alisson not seen much of him but ed001 seems to rate him highly so thatll do for me.

Also gutted for the ox, the reaction on here shows how integral he became to the squad and hope his recovery goes well.

WYred

1.) 18 Jul 2018 19:59:52
Reporters only have a 5 second memory, they probably forgot all about Buffon being the worlds most expensive keeper until this deal is completed lol.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
It varies depending on which currency you use because of the fluctuation in exchange rate.

Buffon held the euro record. Ederson held the sterling record. Alisson breaks both records.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 20:39:02
It’s being reported as. PL record.


4.) 18 Jul 2018 21:40:36
Didn’t they pay 52 Euro’s but for Buffon and Lilian Thurman, so for 2 players.


5.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:08
It’s as Adam said. Buffon, although more Euros, was sold at a time when the £ was much stronger against the €.

Hence Buffon in £ at the time (2001?) is less than Ederson in £ when he was bought last year.

Not much in it, mind.

And when you think about the inflation of transfer fees in the last 15-20 years, Buffons transfer fee was in the Coutinho - Neymar range in today’s market!

What’s most amazing is that, in light of everything, Juve STILL got a bargain!


 

 

04 Feb 2018 13:12:51
In regards to the champions league it is a competition we all love but I feel it has also given a way out for many teams including us, to say, we finished top four it’s a good season.

Take champions league out of it and the only thing that should matter is winning the league (which only one team can do a year but you should be damn close in doing so) and winning a trophy.

Why has the champions league become bigger than the domestic league? don't get me wrong 2005 will live long in the memory but as an English club domestic success should be the be all and end all. For instance I’ll remember 08/09 as we came so close and even closer in 13/14 but I don’t remember the other seasons where we scrape 4th. Finishing top should be and always should be the aim with an FA Cup or League Cup (none of this carabao nonsense) .

WYred

1.) 04 Feb 2018 13:31:13
I don't think qualifying for the champions league has taken precedent over winning the title, it's just the minimum requirement from top 6 teams currently. I think if you asked most Liverpool fans they would prefer the domestic title and I think if you asked our owners they would prefer to be the owners that helped give LFC that. Where have you drawn this conclusion that the champions league is more important? It's more important for citeh currently because they haven't won it yet, and you can bet your bottom dollar that every manager within the top 6 absolutely strives to be crowned champions of the premier league, its not like citeh was the only team set out to try for the title this year and the other 5 just wanted top 4. it's just how the season has panned out with citeh being so consistent in results.


2.) 04 Feb 2018 14:04:03
Sorry WYred but surely you understand the financial rewards for UCL qualification and progression due to tv rights sponsorship etc etc. All fans want the big name players at their clubs, those players in turn want paying big money and want to be playing in the most competitive competition there is in club football the UCL. Its sad really that most clubs view the English domestic competitions as a hindrance nowadays due money pure and simple.


3.) 04 Feb 2018 14:44:06
Why not go for both? 🤔.


4.) 04 Feb 2018 16:25:09
I don’t think CL or top 4 has taken precedence over the league at all, but it’s about being able to realistically build a team that can compete. I would take the title over the CL and I would take a title over a top 4 space the following/ previous season. Money isn’t really an issue any more but top players want to play in the CL, end of story, without CL our best players, who we will have usually been forced to nurture ourselves from young talents because of not being able to attract top players, will want to leave for a better chance of winning trophies/ playing CL and so the cycle continues. There are extraordinary events of course, I. e. Leicester but this was an exception, not the rule, and i’ll be amazed if I see similar again in my lifetime. Top 4 and CL is not the be all and end all, but it is necessary to become and stay as a top team. I said at the start of the year Top four for us would be a successful season and I stand by that.


5.) 04 Feb 2018 18:50:44
Because it helps to attract the best new players.


6.) 04 Feb 2018 20:21:32
Correct stoneage 🤝.


7.) 04 Feb 2018 21:43:49
It's not always the case arsenal jus bought abumayang they ain't in champs league an also in 6th, also if u have a manager a player wants too play under that helps as abumayang has said he wanted too play under Wenger an he now playing for arsenal, as vvd wanted too play for Liverpool also.


8.) 04 Feb 2018 23:34:30
Apologies don't think i worded my point correctly. My point was that qualifying for the champions league was considered a success. I. e. we finished top four so we had a good season.

The only measurement for a good season should be winning a trophy. You could argue a title challenge is successful but only if you just miss out. But finishing fourth should not be considered an achievement it is a mere bonus that you have qualified for the champions league.

Obviously champs league has the money and attracts players, and in my original post that question was rhetroical as its money the makes the game go round which is an unfortunate outcome of the game becoming so successful.


9.) 05 Feb 2018 09:59:17
WYred, there's a difference between winning trophies and achieving targets. Both Wigan and Swansea have won major trophies since our last one but clearly they're not better teams than us. So we need a better way of measuring how well we're currently doing and that's the league.

Goals scored is a great measure of our attack, goals conceded of our defence and points of our general standing. If these records are going up or down season by season then that's measure of our progress.

Being in the top four isn't success in itself but it's a target that's shows we're improving. From 2010-16 we made the top four once, hopefully we going to do it for the second time in a row this season, that's progress.

If we start to come top four regularly then we can increase our targets to 'challenge for the title' and if we challenge for the title regularly we can increase our target to 'win the league'. That's the aim but it's a journey.

Saying we're unsuccessful because we didn't win the league is unhelpful as it wasn't a realistic target for us this season. Having a target of 'top four' and achieving that target shows we're on the right track.


10.) 05 Feb 2018 10:59:00
I think for this season if we qualified for champs league 2 seasons in a row that's progression too were we have come from, it shows a level of consistency in the league but obviously we have too take it too the next level in terms of winning leagues an cups, from the top too the bottom of the club as a whole we always should b thinking through the ceiling but these days money is king an we lag behind in that department as there are 5 or six teams as just as wealthy an 3 of them have juggernaut money.


11.) 05 Feb 2018 11:07:41
So the measurement for success is winning a trophy but you’d rather not be in a competition with a trophy up for grabs so you can focus on 3 other comps, at least 2 of which are less prestigious?


12.) 05 Feb 2018 11:35:43
I still don't think you're correct WYred - most people laugh at the few who considers it a success on it's own merit.

However, most things in life happen in steps. We've spent almost a decade out of the Champions League for the most part, so the first step is getting back into it and solidifying our position as regulars. It's a good indication of the path to success - no one really believes its the end goal of it.


13.) 05 Feb 2018 12:09:27
i think top 2 should should qualify automatic for CL and the winner of both cups get the remaining two place.


14.) 05 Feb 2018 12:33:32
Hailstones. aubumayang went to Arsenal because no other big club would buy him and he wanted to move! Also his current club are out the champions league so it made no difference to his current season.


15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:00:27
Tia, mate abumayang is quality he will bag arsenal a lot of goals bet u he has a field day in the premiership, no one wanted Suarez but we did, no one wanted coutihno we did, no one wanted Salah we did, doesn't mean anything they have a world class striker.


16.) 05 Feb 2018 16:11:36
Swish, I never said I don't want to be in the champions league, my point is that you shouldn't meerly aim for top four (you may during the season have to adapt your targets depending on results) but before a ball is kicked the title should be the aim plus any trophy your competing in.

ending a season with just a top four finish can be seen as progress from where we have been but should still be considered an average season at best.

This site is about opinions which over certain things will differ but it is what makes this site so addictive.


17.) 05 Feb 2018 18:36:26
how many clubs, Liverpool included, wish for top four, it brings so many pluses, meaning you have performed well in the bread and butter of the premiership, then to have a good run, in all the cups, hoping to win one of course, really being in the Champions League does attract the better players, and money,
this then means you can then strenghten your team, giving you a better chance to win games,
so the best teams, then have a much better chance of staying up there with the best,
we have just added VVD and Mo Salah, our full back situation looks so much better now, even Karius is improving, we have Kieta coming here in 4 months, Lovren looks good with VVD,
there to me I can see a big improvement,
if we can add a class midfielder, we can def set our sights even higher next season .


18.) 06 Feb 2018 02:24:55
WY, the aim is to win everything we enter, the top 4 is the minimum level we want to be achieving, not maximum. just cos that's what we reference as a milestone doesn't mean that we're only happy competing at that level.


 

 

02 Feb 2018 20:21:55
Does anyone know if a player with less than 6 months on their contract can sign a pre- contract agreement outside of the January transfer window?

WYred

1.) 02 Feb 2018 20:36:36
Yes as long as it’s with a club for a different country or FA as far as I’m aware. At least that seems to be the general rule. Need to get the old law manual out!


2.) 02 Feb 2018 20:37:59
Yes, as long as it is a non English side.


3.) 02 Feb 2018 20:52:36
I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window.


4.) 03 Feb 2018 02:06:44
Fa not country. by the way eds is there any country havin different fa?

{Ed001's Note - any country having different FA from what?}


5.) 03 Feb 2018 11:29:34
“I think players can sign contracts with clubs at any time of the season, the issue is registration to play for that particular club. So yes a player with less than 6 months on his contract can sign a pre contract outside the jan window. ”

Ed002 will correct me if I’m wrong, but players can sign for clubs at any stage of the season as long as the selling club agree to it. Registration can only be transferred during a transfer window.

When a player only has 6 months left on their contract they don’t need to seek the permission of their parent club to sign pre-contract agreements. If it’s within the same FA then a fee needs to be decided - either by agreement or by tribunal (eg Danny Ings)

{Ed002's Note - Right.}


6.) 04 Feb 2018 01:53:56
Livebird31 Swansea and Cardiff are in different FA to country and vice versa.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 18:55:40
Ed002 has played a blinder with wonderdogsparky, my opinion is that Couts is off and VVD has taken his house.

WYred

1.) 02 Jan 2018 20:10:46
It'd seem to obvious to me that scenario, I think he's talking about somebody else coming in lol but who knows, his 'clues' are about enough to make Einstein go round the twist.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 20:20:56
Samir "smooth hands" Handanovic, methinks.


3.) 02 Jan 2018 20:25:40
He ‘or she’ Ed002 may be a she, is just sending us into a frenzy, silly season is underway!

{Ed002's Note - I rather think I have done no such thing.}


4.) 02 Jan 2018 20:43:59
It does seem its couts and vvd but there does seem to be another one at least in there.


5.) 02 Jan 2018 20:44:01
Ed002 I think its great mate what you have done. Certainly makes it fun us all stressing over who it is arriving. Is it someone youve mentioned before like on the Sharkopod?

{Ed002's Note - you have missed the entire point.}


6.) 02 Jan 2018 20:50:51
John parrot lives in coutinhos basement.


7.) 02 Jan 2018 20:59:27
It’s all riddles
Hand cream Shea butter
Could be
Shay given (Shea)
Jack butland (butter)

I hope I’ve stirred this pot into more frenzy.


8.) 02 Jan 2018 21:17:41
Wonder Dog Sparky is and anagram of Skyward Pogo Nerd

The prodigal son returns. I give you Peter Crouch!


9.) 02 Jan 2018 21:54:08
There won’t be a keeper. We have four. Two whom expect to be playing.


10.) 02 Jan 2018 21:55:46
Tbh I don't even think it relates to any new arrival now.


11.) 02 Jan 2018 22:13:33
My reading of the players ‘dropping by to say hi’ to WDS are other players that will be leaving. Marco, Ings etc.


12.) 02 Jan 2018 23:21:15
Shea Butter = sturridge out
Old Friends = masch and Suare, pepe reina?


13.) 03 Jan 2018 03:10:10
Shea butter made from Pea-like fruit off the Shea tree.

Mascara - Spanish for Mask

Old Friend

Auba is on his way!


14.) 03 Jan 2018 10:33:46
Rborhara, it could be Nuri Sahin you know.


15.) 03 Jan 2018 13:16:34
Bull Moose Jackson plays R&B Keiata’s on his way!


 

 

27 Dec 2017 18:06:06
Been confirmed by the club! VVD is a red at 75 mil though i think that is a huge risk and if it doesn't work and we are not challenging next year for trophies klopp will be under massive pressure.

WYred

1.) 27 Dec 2017 18:16:48
We are always challenging for trophies as every club is when the competition starts and managers are always under pressure. Whatever the money bandied about it it's a) irrelevant and b) obscene. You pay what the market rate is which goes up day by day and will do so until the bubble bursts. Opinions are like you know what's - we all have one. If this happens and it's a player that Klopp thinks can improve us then lets' be positive and see where it takes us.


2.) 27 Dec 2017 18:18:57
I really hope it works out well - I want a world class player for that money, I fear we've got merely a good one.


3.) 27 Dec 2017 18:25:23
Great opportunity to try the back 3 with Matip, Gomez, and VVD. wingbacks with options on both sides and a defensive midfielder dropping in to the triangle. Good flexibility and mobility as well as hopefully quick ball movement.

I know Hendo gets a lot of grief but we seem more balanced and dynamic without him in the team, do you think he will stay on or a replacement may be looked at?


4.) 27 Dec 2017 18:29:27
He is quality I am made up but we need more simple as, we need a new qaulify established keeper who we can trust too not make errors, it's not easy but they out there, hope vvd form was cos his head was with us an not because of his injury hell of a lot of money.


5.) 27 Dec 2017 18:31:47
Crazy stuff. But credit where it is due to everyone at the club for resurrecting an all but dead transfer and beating Chelsea and City to him. Am amazed. I think I need a drink!

{Ed002's Note - They did not resurrect a transfer as they never spoke to Southampton about the player regarding a transfer. Manchester City has a lengthy list of CBs they are interested in. Chelsea's interest in a centre back is elsewhere.}


6.) 27 Dec 2017 18:36:25
I highly doubt we will change the system to accommodate VVD. Nearly impossible to incorporate the "Fab Four" in a three at the back system.


7.) 27 Dec 2017 18:39:19
I think he's a decent player and I'm not slating him here.

But SEVENTY FIVE MILLION QUID? ARE YOU MAD?


8.) 27 Dec 2017 18:43:52
Kimos so by definition Swansea are challenging for the title before the season starts then? Without going into the money too much (sorry ed002) 75million is a huge fee (even in the inflated market) and is going to represent a huge investment by the club, one of which I would fully expect the club to think is enough to push the club from top four contenders to title challengers (next season, city are out of sight)
Klopp, when he joined, said he would win the title within three years and the club are trying to give him the tools. It is now down to him to put those tools into practice.


9.) 27 Dec 2017 18:56:08
Overpriced to say the least, that's suarez money! Guess we see if he picks himself up, he's been dog this season!


10.) 27 Dec 2017 20:02:15
Do you want our competitors to spend all the big money and we just buy the £10m and under defenders? We have tried to penny pinch and look what has happened. The signing is a game changer, just what we needed.


11.) 27 Dec 2017 20:02:43
The money goes up all the time WYRed. Each window. To compare prices of previous and recent windows makes little sense. I read earlier that he's not worth 1 Bale or 2 Salahs. At previous window prices Bale didn't have one and Salah is now worth considerably more than £35 or 40m whatever it was. As fans we want the best for our teams and the money we have little or no concept of how it goes. Let it be and hope he turns out alright.


12.) 27 Dec 2017 20:38:44
Great singing I’m dubious about the money spent and have thought there may well be cheaper options out there for a cheaper price but we’ve got him we wanted him first let’s get behind him. A top keeper or one with the potential to be top next and I’ll never ask for anything again.


13.) 28 Dec 2017 00:29:41
Cheaper cheaper cheaper god my post wasn’t great 😂.


 

 

 

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09 Aug 2018 20:49:45
I want to wish Danny Ings all the best in his move down south, I feel if it wasn’t for his injuries he would be a big part of this squad. I think he will do wonders for Southampton.

As for our transfer window, we couldn’t really ask for anymore, we have strengthened where required, yes Fekir was a disappointment but think it’ll turn out for the best with a fab, Hendo and keita midfield. Can’t wait for the season to start. Just hope the media don’t disrupt the first few weeks by linking every man and his dog abroad.

WYred

1.) 09 Aug 2018 21:14:46
Pity we didn't get any money for can but nonetheless was a great window. I can see us using a middle 3 of keita fabihno pair lying deep with shaqiri further ahead with the front 3 forming a diamond.


2.) 09 Aug 2018 21:41:56
Wasn't bothered that we did not get Fekir cos our team would still score goals regardless. Just look at the way we battered Brighton at home last season with Bobbie in the hole behind Dom with Salah either side. Not saying we will play that way now BUT just saying that Fekir is not as big a disappointment as one can initially think. With Shaquiri showing his stuff in the whole as well as Studge, partying like it is 13/ 14 season again, WE'RE GOOD.

Now tho, we have depth almost everywhere on the pitch esp. in midfield where Fab, Wiji, Hendo, Naby, Milner and Lallana, are vying for places and barring no serious injuries, we will be good to go and attack all 4 comps. with determination and a will to win as many as we can. Happy Days, IMO!


 

 

29 Jul 2018 20:42:38
Happy birthday to the first of the Edwards and one of the men to start this site. I hope it continues to grow and gets you a bit more cash in the pocket. The only site, outside lfc, that should be trusted regarding transfers and club news. And now got to cracking community behind it, I hope you managed a small break from the site Ed001.

WYred

{Ed001's Note - break? Not really mate, I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I had a break! Thank you WY.}


 

 

22 Jul 2018 21:29:42
Anyone else clock the fourth official after matip substitution, he has one job but managed to get both players numbers wrong!

WYred

 

 

13 Jul 2018 21:56:20
Just a note on XS, he’s taken number 23 which still leaves 10 available hopefully means there is still a couts replacement and sky’s prediction XS is replacing him is wide of the mark.

WYred

1.) 13 Jul 2018 22:12:41
Carra’s old number and Fowler’s old number 🤝.


2.) 13 Jul 2018 22:50:38
Ron, Let’s hope he’s got half the commitment of Carra and half the ability of Fowler.


3.) 13 Jul 2018 23:27:06
I flinched a bit about him taking God's number tbh.


4.) 14 Jul 2018 10:13:20
Well Razorsharp. that is the hope.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 22:12:53
England did well, always disappointing to go out in a tournament especially when your so close. Knew we would regret the missed chances but once they scored you could see they were scared to be failures and hounded by the press.

Should hold their heads high, even if we did get lucky with the draw. You can only beat what’s in front of you and the Croats had that little bit of extra composure to see them over the line.

Either way it’s back down to club football and can’t wait for it to begin again.

Note: good luck Ed’s silly season might have just got a shot in the arm now the media can’t write about England!

WYred

1.) 11 Jul 2018 22:42:47
Think Southgate got off very easily.

Blame went to composure and experience.

Not the fact that croatia countered the 352 in the second half and made us a 532. Delph needed to cone on and we should of countered with a 4231. Rose on for young and delph on for trippier.

Just watched us get blitzed all. second half smashing it up front and back to them. Kane just awful past 2 games without penalties. Playing cm?

Sterling. Well. 5o million looks better and better each time I watch him.

And I f$%in hate mandzukic and his stupid grip haha.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 23:08:23
Spot on, Kloppsboss. England may have made the semi's of a WC and that should be applauded BUT having said that, The Croats were by far the better team and it showed, . Modric did NOT put ONE foot wrong all game and England hence Southgate, could not be arsed to put a man on him to disrupt his play. The guy did exactly whatever he wanted on the pitch and all England did was stand and admire him do it. Croatia outworked, out-thought and outplayed England from the second half on.

Also, Southgate got his arse handed to him on a plate by Dalic tactically. Croatia played as a unit while attacking and defending and never seemed in danger when England countered cos you have the likes of Alli, Lingard and the gawd awful Sterling mucking about.

Offensively, England create ONE chance from open play (Kane's chance at 1-0) while the Croats had more of the chances overall. Defensively, Walker was crap (I know, ) and so was Stones. Maguire did not do much and his lack of speed on the turn showed again. Composure comes from preparation, confidence, mental toughness and knowing what you are doing. England did not have it cos they had NO idea what they were doing. The better team won and that is the way it should be, IMO.


3.) 12 Jul 2018 04:17:00
Exactly brover. Apart from Hendo our midfield were awful when out of possession. Rubbish. Klopp would have subbed Ali and lingard for their lazy defending.

{Ed0333's Note - Dier should have come on way before he did.


4.) 12 Jul 2018 11:34:08
Alli was done at 60 mins, RBC or Delph at least had legs. We had no threat after the hour.


5.) 12 Jul 2018 06:41:58
Defo ed033. Half time maybe.

{Ed0333's Note - or at the start?


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2018 13:55:18
sure we said that about ward BE, for me it should be a keeper towards the end of their careers so the young ones can get experience.

a few cup games a year won't benefit them IMO.

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01 Aug 2018 10:08:31
I'm assuming that means they are looking at one of the young lads being promoted to no.3.

i hope it isn't the case as the young lads need games!

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19 Jul 2018 20:52:48
Sure he has the money to sort that out!
Must be the hardest thing though giving up a number, specially for a keeper.

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18 Jul 2018 16:18:12
Personally i only see Vida as an option if one of Klavan or Matip leaves, IMO no point in buying him to add to the ranks should only be a replacement.

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08 Jul 2018 10:53:23
Aulas is doing right by his club and wanting the most for his club, you can’t argue with that. His methods are unorthodox but he gets what he wants which is a very good deal for Lyon. A tricky customer but if we want Fekir as much as Keita and VVD I trust the club to get it done.

P. s. he is also trying to drum up interest for a better deal, we all do the same if we are selling something so why should it be different for a player.

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09 Aug 2018 21:49:52
Think you have had a decent window ed025, think it may take a few games to get up to scratch but think you will have a good season and be best of the rest.

WYred

{Ed025's Note - bit early to tell yet WYred, i think we have done very well myself and your right that it may take time to gel, but i think we are going in the right direction mate..


 

 

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08 Aug 2018 14:58:28
Think city purely depends on other teams attitudes. If teams turn up rolling over and having their belly tickled like last season then no one will catch city. However if teams have a go and get in there faces teams can pick up points against them.
Either way all we can do is take it game by game and see where it gets us.

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08 Aug 2018 10:06:30
Was it not litmanen? i didn't think either of those finals were under a closed roof.

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06 Aug 2018 11:28:46
I have a bet with a work colleague that Wolves will finish above West Ham, so I hope wolves don't struggle!

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25 Jul 2018 20:24:48
I really hope he brings his World Cup form through to the league, And that is a classy thing to do, well done Lovren.

WYred