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08 Feb 2025 23:53:17
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08 Feb 2025 21:32:02
Is Ousmane Dembele still of any interest or has that gone with Klopp? Hitting his peak years now playing as a number 9, one of the best forwards in the world this year.
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08 Feb 2025 21:58:06
Klopp target, just like Adama Traore was!
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08 Feb 2025 23:31:42
Lazy injury prone waster, scoring a few goals against some French sheep farmers doesn’t change that.
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08 Feb 2025 23:44:09
Is it 2016 again? I wish it was! He's 28 by summer, contract with PSG, is finally achieving his potential. Come on, it's a non-starter.
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07 Feb 2025 12:14:32
Mo and Virg contracts have not been agreed yet, despite popular belief. None of the three have signed and there is a general feeling around the club that the trio may want to wait until the end of the season to re sign.
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07 Feb 2025 12:21:22
I'll be the one to ask this time - what's your source VG? If its reported somewhere please let us know where, or if you have someone ITK.
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07 Feb 2025 12:32:15
So they are happy to sign what is on these contracts at the end of the season, Vic? A verbal agreement?
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07 Feb 2025 13:11:26
Im not so sure about the details. I have just been told that the players and club are happy to wait as to not apply any pressure mid season, particularly as we get closer to the run in.
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07 Feb 2025 14:06:24
I don't know about the 'wait until the end of the season' part, but the source is Slot, Zed. He literally said it in the press conference. None of the 3 have signed and not to believe reports.
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07 Feb 2025 13:38:46
Told by who Victor? You don't need to name a name but is it "a mate at the pub" or "someone who works for the club" or "some rando on twitter"?
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07 Feb 2025 14:58:35
Somebody quite close to the club.
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07 Feb 2025 16:07:29
OK, thanks both VG and Gunn.
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07 Feb 2025 17:59:00
I think it was a bloke who lives on Walton Breck Road.
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{Ed025's Note - i heard today that VVD and Salah have agreed to sign but will not announce it until the end of the season out of respect for Trent, who they fear will face abuse as nothing is agreed yet with him, this is from an ex-player who still works for LFC....but im not naming names..
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07 Feb 2025 18:27:57
That’s doing the rounds Ed. Makes a lot of sense, and if you see how they’re playing, and their general demeanour, it seems to have changed in the last month. No posturing at all which makes you think it’s settled.
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{Ed025's Note - hopefully all 3 will stay JS, but the Trent one is still in abeyance mate so lets just see how that one pans out..
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07 Feb 2025 18:39:34
Ed25 do u think Trent will sign? I know your not bothered but what’s your feeling?
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{Ed025's Note - i think its a 50/50 call FG, the money and the lifestyle and the pull of playing for Madrid will be a tough one to turn down i expect mate..
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07 Feb 2025 19:05:48
I think your probably right ed ( thanks for the reply) but what a waste of talent to go for nothing. I don’t know if it’s bad business from FSG or Trent running down his contract.
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{Ed025's Note - for me bad business FG, contracts should be sorted 2 years in advance of expiry imo mate or players will walk for nothing..
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07 Feb 2025 19:13:04
Ed025 am not a fan but of meatloaf but I will take his song because two out of three ain’t bad.
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{Ed025's Note - i will do anything for you Grino...but i wont do that, lets just hope Trent is not going to disappear like a bat out of hell mate.. :)
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07 Feb 2025 19:51:35
lol 🤣 I don’t understand Trent Ed he is living his dream playing for the club he loved as a kid does not get better than that and winning trophies as well no matter how many he wins over there none will feel the same.
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{Ed025's Note - not all players see it that way Grino to some of them its just a job, others try and earn as much money as they can and some want the fame and glory with all the trappings that brings, Trent is a young guy who sees his best mate at Madrid enjoying the lifestyle of a king playing in the sunshine at the most successful team in Europe mate...it beats the crap out of playing Ipswich on a freezing cold Tuesday in November i suppose my friend..
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07 Feb 2025 20:05:53
Not a Dry Eye in the House.
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07 Feb 2025 20:28:46
Ed025- Exactly, Trent is ambitious and this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to join Franco's stockpile of Bosman galacticos.
He's won the F lot with LFC, and may be about to win some more, if we are not worn out come the business end.
Im looking forward to when we are not all talking about this anymore.
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{Ed025's Note - not as much as me Vango mate.. :)
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07 Feb 2025 21:04:01
Ed002 I suppose it depends on what you want, play in the best league in the world or play in a league that just set up for two teams to compete and rest are there just to fill the numbers.
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{Ed025's Note - but its getting like that here Grino with you and Arsenal, it may be more about lifestyle than football mate..
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07 Feb 2025 21:04:31
I think Trent is up there with the best RBs in world football, and he’s about to enter his prime. However, if I had to pick one not to sign, I would, sadly, pick Trent. I believe a RB is easier to replace than our captain and our highest PL scorer. Plus we’ve got a chap called Bradley, we don’t have anyone at even a vaguely similar level as either Salah or Virg.
I hope what you’re hearing is true Ed025, and I do still hope we get Trent over the line too.
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{Ed025's Note - so do i Zed..
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07 Feb 2025 21:31:09
Just my opinion but I think Bradley has a higher ceiling than trent. Id love all 3 to stay but like said above if one had to go I'd prefer it to be Trent.
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07 Feb 2025 21:43:37
It might be possible that the players want to see what we achieve this season and how that might motivate them for next season. Certainly IF we were to win 4 trophies it might mean that there’s nothing more to do here - certainly for Trent, and perhaps the other two. Alternatively it might act as a spur to do it again next season and perhaps more records from MO’s perspective? Just a thought.
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08 Feb 2025 00:52:07
The rest of the Prem is much better than the rest of La Liga Ed25. Pretty much every game for Liverpool, Arsenal, and City is a battle.
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{Ed025's Note - i dont know about that FF, there are elite clubs in every league and yes there will be the odd surprise mate but the cream always rises to the top, the gap between the have,s and have nots is getting wider even in England and i cant see anyone outside the Sky 6 winning the league ever again..
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08 Feb 2025 09:08:51
The constant have they signed, or are they leaving, is getting a bit drawn out imo.
It’s a gamble for the 3 players assuming non have signed, a gamble cos god forbid, one does an ACL that’ll cause an issue regarding signing. Strange injuries happen.
Maybe one or all want to see how Slot is for the season as coach.
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08 Feb 2025 09:33:36
Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but can TAA not sign an extension with some type of release clause?
That way, he can still move to Madrid, but Liverpool would actually get a fee.
I would understand him wanting something new if we win the title this year.
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08 Feb 2025 10:02:01
Adam, my take on that would be it is certainly possible, but I doubt Madrid would be happy with that. Also, I imagine the financial package offered to trent is based on them not paying a fee, so any additional transfer fees would likely impact his overall package.
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08 Feb 2025 12:13:21
Ed025 you say you can’t see anyone outside the sky 6 ever winning the league again but in Spain that’s only 3 and truthfully it’s only 2. Who are the 6 Ed I can think of a 5 that stand out but then there is a few more that with the right manager could join. With your new owners and ground you could end up back up there if you spend money wisely.
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{Ed025's Note - i think thats pie in the sky at the moment Grino, but who knows maybe in a few years we could reach those dizzy heights mate..
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08 Feb 2025 14:58:21
Thanks, Stuie. That makes a lot of sense.
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08 Feb 2025 17:35:42
Zeddicus- Im of the samde opinion. I love Trent, and very few in world football can pass like him, but he does also have that laid back continental style, and sometimes struts about as if he's already playing for Real.
Personally i think the move would suit him, his ego and his entourage .
With the right kind of purchase we can perhaps improve on most of his output bar assists.
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08 Feb 2025 18:50:45
To be fair Ed 6 teams is still over a quarter of the league, I don’t think there’s another top league where they have that kind of competition.
Personally, I think we have 8 teams; Liverpool, Arsenal, Man C, Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs, Aston Villa, and Man U, who all have the financial muscle to challenge for the league over the next 10 years if they get their recruitment right.
I think we have the most competitive league around with pretty much every game a genuine contest.
That’s the way I see it anyway.
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{Ed025's Note - for me the Villa,s and Spurs of this world cannot be considered as title challengers FF, Newcastle and Chelsea are also miles off and the 2 Manchester clubs are in free fall mate, things could change in the future but at the moment the only 2 with title credentials are yourselves and a wishy washy Arsenal..
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08 Feb 2025 20:51:36
That’s one season though to be fair Ed. You usually have 1-3 teams that pull away in each season, but those teams could change from season to season in this league. Arsenal were way off a few seasons ago.
Totally respect what you’re saying, but I still think that the Prem is the most competitive at this moment in time.
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{Ed025's Note - i think you maybe right FF, but the gap between the teams who can contend and the also rans is getting wider mate..
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08 Feb 2025 21:13:36
I thought it was really interesting when Liverpool played Nottingham, Brentford, and then Bournemouth away recently. All games were seen as massive tests for Liverpool, none of those teams are traditional top 6 teams. Personally, I think y to jar says a lot about where the Prem is compared to other leagues.
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06 Feb 2025 22:41:30
ESPN is reporting Liverpool interest in Angelo Stiller. It's a name I've seen on here before. May just be recycled, but he looks like an interesting prospect.
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07 Feb 2025 00:13:51
I watched a video on him a few weeks back and he looks absolutely brilliant. Signed a new contract with a reasonable release clause.
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07 Feb 2025 01:06:06
Not sure if he’s past it now. Hasn’t been in anything good since Tropic Thunder.
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07 Feb 2025 08:07:01
That's some conk the lad has.
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07 Feb 2025 08:21:03
He looks like he’s taken the ball to the nose a few times, good to see he puts himself in the way.
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07 Feb 2025 10:52:40
If the football doesn’t work out for him he can always get a job as a sniffer dog. He could sniff out drugs or truffles from about 150 miles with that hooter.
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07 Feb 2025 12:57:32
Yeah he could smell a Sunday dinner on Tuesday.
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07 Feb 2025 13:07:15
It clearly looks like a nose that has developed from a cleft lip (a birth defect) to me.
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07 Feb 2025 14:15:48
As they say in The Life of Brian"Blessed are the big noses"
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07 Feb 2025 19:07:58
Surprised he’s not had a rhinoplasty to sort that conk out. Michael Jackson once had a nose bigger than that. Hard to believe.
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07 Feb 2025 20:35:37
The man clearly had a cleft palate and you’re laying into him, no good that.
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07 Feb 2025 21:43:12
Not in the slightest one bit funny lads.
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08 Feb 2025 09:08:08
Crazy, not like he chose his looks, obviously a kid with incredible character who has probably had to overcome a lot of idiots.
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08 Feb 2025 16:23:15
WALKON79.
It may not be funny to you. Comedy is subjective.
I didn't mention anything about a cleft palate Frode Kippers. I just said it was some conk, which is the truth. I didn't say it was bad, or ugly, or anything. I just commented on it.
In other news, he has a range of passing on him that's for sure.
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05 Feb 2025 11:30:47
Ed's or anyone else, have you seen the links to Miguel Guitierrez of Girona? Looks a quality player but with Girona being part of the City group surely this would be a complete non-starter? I can't see them selling to us and/ or if he was that good would City not take him for themselves?
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05 Feb 2025 14:16:43
Good going forward and poor at the back. Typical modern day full back. City are after Cambiaso. They don’t need him.
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05 Feb 2025 15:03:47
City group aren’t going to sell him to us. There’s really no point sending scouts to watch players at clubs owned by premier league rivals, or who fall under the same ownership group. And that’s without mentioning that Real Madrid have retained 50% of his ownership rights and sell on fee. I’d hope that even Hughes isn’t that dim to waste any time or efforts on this player.
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05 Feb 2025 17:47:23
I do not believe it!
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05 Feb 2025 18:24:15
I did forget that PL rivals don't sell player to each other.
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05 Feb 2025 20:40:55
Why would city group sell a player who is evidently performing well at a high level to a direct rival club who they have a problematic relationship with, Rigsby. Or are you forgetting that incident where one of our current employees hacked into the City scouting database, which we had to pay rather a lot of hush money to them in order to stop them reporting us to the FA for. Which we would have got a kicking for btw.
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05 Feb 2025 22:48:19
The City group might sell him to us because he's a poor defender, as you said.
Seriously, I don't know whether the City group would or wouldn't sell him to a rival PL team. I didn't mention him and I know nothing about him.
My point was about PL teams signing players from other PL teams. It does happen.
Are you saying it doesn't, Vik?
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06 Feb 2025 06:22:56
@Victor if they don’t like us that much why didn’t 5hey just report us? I suppose your answer is because we gave them money? Do you go have any actual proof of that as it seems to me City requesting a bribe and us paying it would get both clubs into even more trouble.
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06 Feb 2025 07:12:59
Rigsby you’re being pedantic for no reason. VV is spot on and his logic is sound. You know quite well that rival clubs 99% of the time don’t sell players to one another. The recent anomalies generally include Chelsea who are willing to pay in excess to get players through the door and the selling club happy to get rid. We can’t buy a piece of toast, rarely get drawn into what a perceived difficult transfers and “transfer wars”.
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06 Feb 2025 08:53:41
Frode/ Victor, I'm not sure that your undestandings are accurate. I can think of 25+ examples off the top of my head just in the last 20 years of players being moved between big 6 rivals for a fee or on loan.
Liverpool let Sterling, Benayoun, Torres and Meireles go to big 6 rivals.
Chelsea let Cech, Benayoun, Jorginho, Kovacic, Luiz, Sturridge, Werner, Mount and Havertz go to big 6 rivals.
Arsenal let Cole, Van Persie, Toure, Clichy, Adebayor, Giroud, Nasri and Oxlade-Chamberlain go to big 6 rivals.
Man City let Zinchenko, Sterling and Jesus go to big 6 rivals.
Spurs let Walker, Keane, Berbatov and Carrick go to big 6 rivals.
Man United let Sancho go to a big 6 rival.
Again, this is just off the top of my head and I can think of it happening pretty much every year for about 20 years.
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06 Feb 2025 09:43:27
Kippers, I see MK has posted a very good reply and he remembers far more transfers than I do 👍.
I get yours and Vik's points but there are lots of examples and reasons why a PL club would sell to a rival club.
Don't underestimate the business side of it and how much more power players have these days.
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06 Feb 2025 12:35:44
Interesting stuff.
What was the best and worst inter-rival move over the last 25 years?
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06 Feb 2025 13:29:01
Worst so far - its still early - Mount to United from Chelsea
We have not done well at all from top 6 incomings
Best - and I hate to admit to any of these
Van Persie to United from Arsenal - won Ferguson his league to go two ahead of us
Equal second: Walker Spurs to City (for longevity)
Sterling from us to City - still don't forget this one (for two seasons)
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06 Feb 2025 14:15:59
Worst is probably Man Utd selling Wan Bissaka to West Ham. Big mistake selling to a relegation rival.
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06 Feb 2025 15:46:48
Us selling Torres to Chelsea was a bad buy for them.
£50m and that was a long time ago and he was injured when we sold him.
We also flogged them Raul Meireles.
Van Persie to United is a great shout for a good buy 👍.
I'd have to mention Rio Ferdinand to United, too. Leeds were a top side at the time and that has just jogged my memory to think of Eric Cantona.
What a player he was and they got him for peanuts.
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06 Feb 2025 16:53:01
I can't believe you are all even debating this.
The best transfer between rival clubs was clearly the free transfer of James Milner from City to Liverpool!
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06 Feb 2025 17:43:24
Great shout on Milly, Shipley.
Agree on Van Persie (good) and Torres (bad) shouts too.
Ashley Cole, as unlikable as he was, was a hell of a signing by Chelsea.
Sheringham and Berbatov were also pretty good signings by United too.
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06 Feb 2025 19:52:22
Michael Carrick too i would say!
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07 Feb 2025 07:36:03
Surely Milner can't be included because he was out of contract at City. And it's the same for other free transfers.
City or whoever couldn't stop him joining a rival club because he was no longer contracted to them.
Sol Campbell would have got a mention otherwise. Spurs to Arsenal is some move.
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08 Feb 2025 21:39:08
City gave us Bellamy.
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04 Feb 2025 16:15:20
Mo and Virg done ☑️.
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04 Feb 2025 16:40:47
Source Robkop?
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04 Feb 2025 16:42:22
They need to announce before the Everton game even if Trent hasn’t signed by then.
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04 Feb 2025 16:45:26
Waiting for confirmation.
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04 Feb 2025 18:29:51
I would imagine if they were leaving they would have signed pre contracts with the various suitors. Once again nobody knows what's happening and it's all rumours and guesswork.
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04 Feb 2025 18:37:39
Why do they need to announce it before the Everton game?
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04 Feb 2025 18:38:23
About the 30th in the last month a post like this has materialised.
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04 Feb 2025 18:49:36
Tea’s done too.
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04 Feb 2025 18:56:21
The 26th time a poster has posted this throughout the season. Let's hope this time it's real.
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04 Feb 2025 19:07:41
Can I have a cup then Scouse John, I’m parched. ;)
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04 Feb 2025 19:12:17
What're you having, John? Maybe fish fingers?
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{Ed025's Note - im going for Sea Bass on a bed of Celeriac mash with Asparagus and served with a Red wine jus..
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04 Feb 2025 19:16:26
Anfield Edition are reporting it on X. So make of that what you will.
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04 Feb 2025 19:58:56
Hi Ed’s/ macca has anyone heard anything further as it’s going around the internet that both signed new deals? Fingers crossed Trent signs as well.
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04 Feb 2025 20:00:21
Ed025, meals on wheels have come a long way since my day.
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{Ed025's Note - they really have Vango.. :)
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04 Feb 2025 21:11:18
Working late so curry chicken fried rice from the chippy. Needs must. Swerve that sea bass had that on holiday last year just ate the mash.
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04 Feb 2025 23:01:39
Believe it when club announce it. Bored of talking about it now tbh - no point speculating for the 1000th time this season.
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04 Feb 2025 23:11:32
Source: trust me bro.
How many times have they signed so far?
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04 Feb 2025 23:35:13
Crikey Vango, if meals on wheels are in your dim and distant past, have you transcended to a higher plane? 👼.
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04 Feb 2025 23:48:36
It's sounds like an opportunistic buy that, john.
You could improve your future by going for the sea bass but the end of January and beginning of February mightn't be the best time to get it in and on your plate.
You could have done it in the summer and been prepared for working late in February and had it ready to defrost.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on Richard Hughes saying 'needs must' about not spending in January 😂.
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04 Feb 2025 23:49:53
Zeddicus - Moved onto Aldi ready meals and a bit of unlucky fried kitten.
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05 Feb 2025 07:38:15
Mmmmmmm bowl a scouse.
Me mums is the best!
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05 Feb 2025 10:25:36
Sea Bass isn't that the pile of bones with a little bit of fish in.
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05 Feb 2025 12:31:20
I love the philosophical debates we have here, normally sparked by Billy!
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05 Feb 2025 15:28:33
I know these 'breaking' stories about players having signed have been proved false time and time again but it does feel like this is gaining a little bit of traction. It feeds like outlets have suddenly stopped talking about Salah and started running stories like us going for Malo Gusto as a Trent replacement.
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05 Feb 2025 18:53:18
Well its better than reading about all those players we were buying in the Jan window that never happened at least the famous thrèe are at the club for a bit?
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05 Feb 2025 19:56:20
Dont announce it just let them show up next season.
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06 Feb 2025 02:33:22
Anyway, back to eating fish : anyone got any tips for cooking monkfish? Man that is a difficult fish to get right. Appreciate the tips. Never been a huge Sea Bass fan myself.
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06 Feb 2025 08:55:46
So, the rumour is Mo and Virgil have signed contracts but it won't be announced until the end of the season because they don't want to put Trent in a difficult position, as he's probably off. I can understand the logic if true.
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03 Feb 2025 21:20:28
One of our youngsters has joined Spurs? Luca Gill? Don't know anything of him I presume he wasn't highly regarded if we are willing to let him go.
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03 Feb 2025 21:52:11
Guess who his agent is.
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03 Feb 2025 22:00:00
He’s the kid who got banned last season. He tried to punch a Man Utd player and then later on succeeded in elbowing the same player in an off the ball incident.
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04 Feb 2025 01:01:41
Shipley, I think we should’ve rewarded him with a new contract for that!
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04 Feb 2025 04:27:50
I guess Hughes has been busy with Luca this window.
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04 Feb 2025 07:40:24
Hughes has been putting a 1000000 page dossier together on non-league youth prospects who can be flipped for a few sheckles.
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04 Feb 2025 09:57:08
I’m sure you thought that was funny @Vango, but for the life of me I can’t see why.
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04 Feb 2025 11:55:12
I guess by the same logic Chelsea didn't rate Rio Ngumoha as he signed for us?
Players in the youth set ups move for all sorts of reasons, doesn't always mean the club didn't rate them. Only time will tell if he is playing for Spurs or Southport in the future. There is just so many unknowns in developmental football.
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04 Feb 2025 13:39:43
Good point, RedQ, and the lad could it as a stepping stone and end up at Southport.
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04 Feb 2025 15:31:40
@wdw cos you don't do banter.
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04 Feb 2025 18:55:18
As a I say I’m not the only one @Scouse. Keep it up though, love your work.
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03 Feb 2025 20:26:48
A lot of talk going around that Ben Doak might have done his ACL, and will be out for the season. I really hope that is not the case as he was really starting to be a force at Middlesbrough, and, if the injury being reported is real, then he will have to start all over again.
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03 Feb 2025 21:26:48
Looks like it as Boro are signing wingers today. Fingers crossed it’s not such a bad injury.
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03 Feb 2025 21:46:41
I can’t see anything about it online anywhere just comes up with we will not listen to any offers.
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03 Feb 2025 23:16:49
Theres Boro fans saying 6 weeks on twitter.
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03 Feb 2025 23:38:42
Apparently it's a thigh injury and Doak will be out for a couple of weeks. Thankfully, it isn't an ACL.
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03 Feb 2025 23:41:19
Northern Echo and Teeside Live are reporting it now
Asked about the 19-year-old’s absence, Carrick said: “He just felt his thigh during the week in training. We'll see how it is. It won't be a few days, it will be longer. Probably weeks, not ages but yeah, it won't be days.
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04 Feb 2025 07:22:34
“He turned me into a newt ………. but I got better” Monty Python.
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04 Feb 2025 07:38:04
You might have become my favourite person, WDW, after that Monty Python reference.
I didn't know people still watched it.
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04 Feb 2025 10:31:51
Doak will be fit and well enough in time for the run in, and then can be flogged to Palace for 25m so Richard can keep the books looking nice for The botox king.
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04 Feb 2025 12:07:06
Vango, is everything okay?
You seem weird. Has something happened? Liverpool are in every cup, top of every league, have the best squad in the league - but you seem obsessed with creating character flaws for people you’ll never meet.
Have you tried being different?
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04 Feb 2025 12:40:38
Why0why Its changed to a parody account to mirror the deluge of negativity about the lack of transfers elsewhere on the interweb.
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04 Feb 2025 13:02:14
Why0why, stop speaking utter sh*te mate - he's said what he wanted to say, leave it at that.
Many people are against Hughes and have a reason to be, just because you're up his backside doesn't mean everybody else has to be.
It's not Hughes that's got us to the top of everything by the way and it sure as hell won't be down to him to keep us there. Wake up and appreciate other peoples views instead of having the patronizing superiority attitude.
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04 Feb 2025 13:48:47
Why are many people against Hughes, Salah?
I get that it's not down to him that we are competing on all four fronts and that it will be down to him when we run out of gas but why is that?
I'm not trying to change your mind- or anyone's mind- I'm just asking why you are against someone that you know very little about?
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04 Feb 2025 15:23:21
Rigsby, mate you're like a broken record, we've been here tons of times before and I aren't saying the same thing over and over again to somebody who needs it spelling out as often as you do, it gets too boring mate. You know my reasons full well, ask everybody else theirs and I'm sure theirs will be similar or the same. It's not hard to understand mate lol.
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04 Feb 2025 16:33:45
Salah - you don’t have a tangible reason to be. You have limited information which you’ve cobbled together to form a view point to support a pre-existing agenda.
To you, football is Top Trumps. You want loads of signings because they make you all excited. However there is a reality - that reality is once you’ve assembled a squad you don’t keep buying players. Our squad is top of everything. Therefore we don’t have a need to buy.
Regarding the contracts. You have no idea what stage we are at, how much has been offered, how much has been demanded and what the gap is. But, you know the club, an exceptionally well run club, has done something wrong.
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04 Feb 2025 17:10:32
Why, I don't want to keep buying players nor do I want us to spend too much, what I do want is us to protect our team by upgrading as and when needed along with bringing in relevant cover when we're in clear need of it. Something we haven't done since Hughes was brought in, or am I wrong? the summer he did nothing and January he did nothing. You have to be open to how other people see this as a negative. Just because we are top of everything? it means absolutely nothing, you're not seeing the bigger picture.
Let's see how the summer goes when it's looking like we'll need 7-8 players added. Do you think Hughes is capable when in two transfer windows he can't add one quality player? if he does it then I'll quite happily post that I was wrong will you when he does next to nothing - again?
Who said anything about the contracts? that's not on Hughes it's on Ward.
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04 Feb 2025 17:32:26
Salah, mate, but you've never said why. You keep repeating that you, like many others, are against him.
Do you say that in the hope that someone else will explain why you are against him?
I suspect it's because you read some of the Ed's comments about him and you just run with that.
The facts are though, that we are top of the League, still in all other competitions and you have a very limited knowledge about what Hughes is doing.
Oh, and you claim City 'smashed it' in the last transfer window.
Why not wait until Hughes fails and City's new signings do actually smash it before making these claims?
You know, use some facts and proper evidence?
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04 Feb 2025 18:00:05
Well yes, you’re factually wrong.
We signed two players.
So yes, you’re wrong.
But the point that matters is how we do on the pitch. I imagine this summer three to four players leaving (not including Rhys Williams etc) but players that regularly play. At that point I’d be annoyed if we didn’t replace them. Right now you’re conflating buying players with ambition or good club management.
Here’s why teams make signings:
Players leave
Players get long term injury
Players get too old
You signed the wrong player and need to correct it
That’s it. We don’t have a not currently have anything that fits this. We have two players at least in every position.
We play a core of 17 players (these play most CL and PL matches) these are supported by solid back up (like Endo) and exciting youth. That’s an ideal squad. The notion of 30 man squads with a world class player as back up is what happens on computer games. Not in reality.
Managers line lean hungry squads with actual competition. That’s what we have that’s why we’ve been knocked out of zero cups and too every league.
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04 Feb 2025 18:04:43
Salah, mate, you don't protect the team by upgrading. If you sign upgrades on players then you replace them with the upgrades. How is that protecting them?
Again, you say it's clear we need upgrades and cover. That's your opinion but it's clear to me that the current squad is doing very well and you want to change that.
What are you basing us needing 7 or 8 players in the summer on? Do you think Hughes is going to act on what you think? And how do you know that he is incapable of bringing in 7 or 8 players if that's what we need?
You don't.
And last summer, Hughes was largely responsible for the signing of the season when be brought in Slot.
That's just my opinion and I could be wrong but I'm willing to change my mind if the evidence starts to stack up against Slot and Hughes.
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04 Feb 2025 18:19:22
7 or 8 players a bit over the top now.
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04 Feb 2025 23:08:08
I'm glad people are finally starting to learn Hughes doesn't do contracts.
I think everyone can agree that in the summer we could with a new left back and possibly replacements for outgoings players but this really isn't a major surgery situation. These players are very likely to win us a premier league, perhaps even a double. What kind of message does it send if we suddenly ditch some of them after a successful season in favour of new players who have won nothing?
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{Ed001's Note - the message would be that the club is looking to move forward, not sit on its laurels like City have done and that underperformance will result in replacement.}
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05 Feb 2025 00:49:19
But City have just signed three or four players and six PL titles out of eight is hardly sitting on its laurels.
Maybe that's why we are reluctant to give the three players 'what they want', as well. Two of them have had their best years and we might be looking to the future. TAA might have his head turned, has said he's won it all with us and we could be looking for someone younger and hungrier.
Who knows. Van Dijk and Salah could easily look like de Bruyne in a season or two.
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{Ed001's Note - they sat on their laurels in the summer, even you are not this dense as to miss the meaning.}
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05 Feb 2025 00:52:19
7-8 players is not over the top Florian. A LB incoming is inevitable as is another CB and midfielder - 3. Our three lads, if they don't sign a new contract we're looking at another 3. Then we have to think about the club looking at a striker, make it 7 players so far? and while we're at it what about Diaz? who clearly wants out of Liverpool and has done for some time. That's 8 players, will we get 8? who knows and it all goes on the contract situation, it's all if's and buts but worse case scenario the summer will be a very busy one. Let's revisit this conversation after the summer window closes.
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05 Feb 2025 03:38:10
In my opinion, this summer would be make or break for Hughes. The past twontransfer windows have been disappointing but I can see why there was little movement for either.
Last summer, Slot and his coaching team had just come in so they would need time to assess the squad and see which players can suit they system and who can't. We did add in an RW, an area we were short in, with the signing of Chiesa and we did go for a CM in Zubimendi which ultimately didn't happen. Personally, I would have liked a CB or LB as well but we don't know what discussions went on behind the scenes that led to us not signing one. We also did sign a GK and although I still fail to see the point it that signing currently.
For the Winter window, I really didn't see any players who were available that would have improved us. Hato was the only one linked to us that I would have liked us to sign since he fills an area that I feel we have a need in but other than him, I can't think of anyone else. The transfers that happened overall were mostly either panic buys (like all of City signings) or players who needed a new environment (like Ferguson, Asensio, Rashford, etc) .
This summer would require a lot of work. We definitely need an LB, unless Slot feels that either Chambers or Beck can fill that role, and a CM to either play alongside or in place of Grav. Attackers also seems like an area that we are looking at. So that's alrdy 3 players that we'd need to bring in and that's not counting the three whose contract is still not settled.
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05 Feb 2025 07:20:50
I'll ignore your dig, Ed001, because I remember what you said about the atmosphere they create on here.
I agree that City did sit on their laurels in the summer by only bringing in two players. I'm saying that with the benefit of hindsight and Rodri being out for the season though. I would say that de Bruyne was on the decline last season and maybe they should have looked at replacing him but how do you replace a player like him?
I didn't miss your point but I didn't realise you were talking about City in one transfer window.
Sorry about that.
Maybe the charges had a bearing on that in the summer and now they are more confident about them and looking at shifting some players so that they can freshen up their squad.
It certainly looks like that with Haaland's contract and the January transfer window.
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05 Feb 2025 08:46:32
For me salah as it stands we need someone who can cover left and centreback, a midfielder and a forward. No point saying"if"the 3 boys leave, as it stands now them three signings would complete our squad.
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05 Feb 2025 14:44:33
Florian, why?
What about our teams current performances have allowed you to arrive at that conclusion?
Is it that you like that or that we need that? They are very different. I suspect you’d like that because signings are the bit about football you love.
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05 Feb 2025 16:28:56
Why, so I'm getting from you that we don't need any signings, now or in the summer? Because of how well we're currently doing?
As for wanting signings, there’s a clear difference between needing new players and simply wanting them. It’s not about satisfying a transfer obsession; it’s about acknowledging the gaps that exist within the current team. If you’re in denial about the need for reinforcements, you're only setting us up for failure in the long run. Sure, it's easy to be attached to the current squad, but it’s a dangerous stance to take if we want to evolve and compete at a higher level consistently.
Simply put, If you’re suggesting we don't need signings, you’re ignoring the reality of the squad’s limitations. This isn’t about “liking” signings - it's about facing facts. Teams do sign players you know? Incase you didn't realise that.
Being top of the league doesn’t mean we’re immune to the glaring holes in the squad. Yes, we might be playing well right now, but let's not kid ourselves this isn’t a sustainable long-term strategy if we don’t improve. You can’t just rely on form forever. What happens when injuries hit or the current players start to tire out? We’ve seen it before, one bad stretch of games and we’re scrambling to make up for it. The reason we didn't sign anyone in the last windows was because Hughes dropped the ball, he’s been clueless with transfers, leaving us exposed. Now we’re being left with a squad that’s thin in key areas, and eventually, that will catch up with us.
We should've made moves last summer and January to build depth, not just rely on being “top of the league” to mask the fact that we’re one or two injuries away from chaos. Other teams are strengthening, and if we don’t follow suit, we’ll get left behind. Playing well now is great, but it’s not a guarantee of continued success and not acting now to sign quality players will only hurt us in the long run. Don’t mistake temporary success for long-term stability.
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05 Feb 2025 17:32:38
So when I previously said, on this very conversation, that we don’t need players now but will in summer, I’m assuming that didn’t land, right?
Did you miss that?
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05 Feb 2025 17:57:26
Going on your previous responses, why it is evident that you are focused solely on the present. This reinforces my point. I will leave it at that. Next time, ensure you have a solid basis before making unfounded statements. Gobsh*te comes to mind.
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05 Feb 2025 18:36:05
Who has ever said that we don't need signings next summer or after that?
Is it something made up by fans that are don't like having their outrage at no new signings questioned?
And it seems that the fans going on about digs being thrown are very quick to throw digs themselves.
So, come on, are there any quotes or any evidence that fans have said we don't need future signings because we are top of the League, currently?
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05 Feb 2025 19:00:43
Why0why don't be playing the resident shrink with me. for people that'd be on here years they would know i'd actually rather the Academy guys get a chance over new signings a lot of the time. But im also realist that realises you also have to keep improving the squad to compete. Now if you don't think we can improve at LB and CF or that it'd be nice to give the likes of Gravenberch the odd rest next season that's your perogative but stop short of givin me your best sigmund frued impression. impression.
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06 Feb 2025 17:15:02
Florian.
You don’t “have to keep improving the squad” when the squad is spot on. You’re again confusing signings with a guaranteed positive. If it was Chelsea and United would compete every year in the Champions League final and win the Premier League.
You also seem not to understand the law of diminishing returns.
You also don’t value loyalty.
You seem to think Slot, Klopp, Pep, Jose, Carlo etc. are wrong about the ideal scenario being to operate a lean squad.
Teams get better when they play together a lot and know each other well, good teams aren’t “telepathic” they are familiar with each other.
Right now we have the worlds best keeper and the worlds best back up keeper - we also have the big Georgian lad. No deals needed.
Right back, we have Trent (who the biggest team on the planet want) and the most promising right back in the world as his deputy. If Trent leaves we will need a right back.
Centre back. We have the two best in the world. We have superb back up in Quansah and Gomez.
Left back, right now Robbo and Tsimi are doing just fine. In summer one may move on and we may need to buy or see how Beck does.
Six - we have the best six in the world, we have Japans captain as his cover and the excellent McConnell, we also have a returning Bajcetic in summer. If Endo, McConnell, Morton and Bajcetic leave - we’d need cover. As is, we are good.
The eights, Mac, Dom, Jones, Elliott and Nyoni. We are good right now, maybe Elliott isn’t a Slot style player, if he went and we got Kulisevski that’d be a positive. Right now, we are golden.
Forwards, Diaz, Gakpo, Salah are amazing. Jota and Chiesa are top back up, would be great if they could remain fit. Nunez is amazing sixth choice but if he goes or him and another leave we would need to buy a replacement. Right now, we good. Doak may come back, Rio is a bit too young. No emergency signing needed now, a summer reshuffle may happen.
Does that make the position we are in now clear? Where we may be in summer? My position on why we aren’t desperate or indeed in need now?
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