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25 Jun 2019 10:20:44
Palace interested in Mignolet.

Any truth Ed002?

maxlfc

{Ed002's Note - They are looking for a number three so it is unlikely. Liverpool has priced him out of a move to Brugge, Bournemouth and Norwich who have all shown an interest.}


1.) 25 Jun 2019 12:22:10
Ed002,

I understand that right now we have priced clubs out from buying players but as the transfer window progresses will clubs be more willing to spend money to cover positions? We've seen before that Michael Edwards has sold players for a lot more than fans were expecting. Would you expect players like Mignolet and Clyne to leave still?

{Ed002's Note - If the club gets an acceptable offer and the player wants to make the move. If players are priced out of a move the clubs look elsewhere.}


2.) 25 Jun 2019 13:54:26
Do you think we should let him leave?

{Ed002's Note - If the player wants to go.}


3.) 25 Jun 2019 18:25:26
Sorry rephrase, does he want to leave? Are we pricing him out of moves he wants?

{Ed002's Note - He has indicated before that he would like first team football.}


 

 

23 Jun 2019 11:14:08
Ed002, do you perhaps have a chance to give us un update on the latest forwards Liverpool have shown interest in or have things not changed since the last update?

maxlfc

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed as far as I am aware.}


1.) 23 Jun 2019 15:21:21
Cornet, Wamangituka and Groeneveld as versatile back ups. Pepe as a Salah replacement if he leaves.


2.) 23 Jun 2019 14:21:14
Thanks Ed.


3.) 23 Jun 2019 14:21:14
Thanks Ed.


4.) 24 Jun 2019 20:06:16
Plain Bread, who is Wamangituka?


 

 

22 Jun 2019 19:29:24
Apparently Pedro Chirivella is pushing for a move to Extremadura.

maxlfc

1.) 22 Jun 2019 21:25:31
Let him go and get his career back on track

Crooky.


2.) 22 Jun 2019 21:25:31
Let him go and get his career back on track

Crooky.


3.) 23 Jun 2019 10:21:14
Feel sorry for the guy, apparently he was potentially being looked at as an option for 6, before we went in big for Fabinho.

Hope he can get a good move away and jump start his career, always had a soft spot for him and canos!


 

 

17 Jun 2019 16:00:49
Newest rumour popping up.

Liverpool have enquired about the availability of Southampton left-back Matt Targett.

maxlfc

1.) 17 Jun 2019 16:33:49
Tidy player.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 17:09:22
Fills the homegrown qouta and not the worst of players availble for backup.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 17:25:50
At last, a real Target.


4.) 17 Jun 2019 18:11:09
He would be an option up front too, something a bit different, a target man.


5.) 17 Jun 2019 19:57:19
It's been a while since out B team managed to push a player in to our first 11 😉😎😋.


 

 

17 Jun 2019 10:23:14
Hi Ed002, Dorukhan Tokoz is the latest player we have been linked with.

Know about it or is it just the media blabbering on?

maxlfc

{Ed002's Note - I know that Udinese have been in talks.}


1.) 17 Jun 2019 11:31:13
Dorukhan Toköz is an interesting link as he's fairly versatile and can equally play at right-back as well as in midfield. He wouldn't be too expensive (although Udinese had a bid of around £7m supposedly turned down) and could provide back-up in numerous areas. and he gets the odd goal and assist from defensive midfield. not a bad squad player IMHO but allegedly Beşiktaş want around £9m for him.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 12:08:26
Only way we will sign another CM is if they are able to provide cover in other positions in defence like Fabinho does.


3.) 18 Jun 2019 01:15:00
@reynard have you seen him much? As you say, he's interesting, especially at the price quoted mate.

I have never heard of him tbf.


4.) 18 Jun 2019 07:58:13
@Robbospress I've seen him a few times as my mother (before she died this year) got me addicted to (some) Turkish Football. He reminds me of Henderson (with a touch of Emre Can) in his tenacity and playing style. He certainly can defend but I think he is more cultured in attacking situations than the statistics suggest. I'm not sure he'd get much game time here but if we're to get one more year from Millie then I'd imagine he'd be given (if bought) the task of learning as much from Millie as possible. My problem is that he is prone to injury because of his playing style so I'd discount everything until one of OUR medicals was passed. From what I saw on Turkish tv Arsenal are also interested.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2019 17:33:47
Just to add,

Fabinho and Gomes can play at RB. Obviously will hinder us attacking wise but ample backup.

Then there is Milner, our go to guy. At left or right back he can do the job required from Klopp.

We have one of the most versatile squads around. Even Hendo can fill in at RB.

That is what I like about Klopp. He expects his team to play as a team. Not as individuals.

Then you look at Pep trying to install his players like software and then programming them like robots. No wonder the likes of Sane want to leave.

Sane will leave if he is he is not going to be first pick, that is for sure.

maxlfc

{Ed025's Note - yeah it was very harsh on liverpool max...getting whacked by a load of robots mate..


1.) 18 Jul 2019 18:40:30
I know he’s not popular, but I’d keep Clyne around as cover. He’s reasonably competent, his last game against United he played really well.


2.) 18 Jul 2019 18:19:12
We didn’t get whacked by anyone that I remember Ed🤔.

{Ed025's Note - i will rephrase that as pipped at the post by a bunch of robots then virgil.. :)


3.) 18 Jul 2019 20:15:20
that match at the etihad was a great battle between 2 top teams.


4.) 18 Jul 2019 20:19:04
And we won number 6. Citeh have zip European silverware.


5.) 18 Jul 2019 20:52:55
All I know is United won nothing. We got close to the league and won the big one.

{Ed025's Note - i think the truth may be that you won a cup competition but missed out on the big one 6times.. :)


6.) 18 Jul 2019 21:04:26
City are a great side, so are we. I said it at the start of last season, we're in the top 4 sides in Europe.
Us, City, Barcelona and Juve. i don't think anyone would dispute it.

{Ed025's Note - have you ever heard of me mate.. :)


7.) 19 Jul 2019 01:27:03
Barca are terrible, they're just made to look good by a league which is afraid to tackle them. Disorganised and selfish throughout most of the team and there's honestly none of their players I would have at Liverpool.

Not even the 'great' Messi who while being talented absolutely fails unless the whole team does the hard work for him and let's him saunter around punching the ball in the net and diving for free kicks.


8.) 19 Jul 2019 01:57:32
I don't get how people can't acknowledge that pep is an excellent coach. I know that he has spent a lot at every club he has managed, however you still need to buy the right players etc. He has won just about everything there is to win at 3 different clubs and you can't argue that he hasn't built an amazing squad at city.


9.) 19 Jul 2019 04:46:20
Klipperty, i think the debate about whether or not Pep is an excellent coach is based on the fact that at Barca, Bayern, and City he has taken over a successful project and been given near unlimited funds to maintain that success. Similar to Mourinho.
Tactically, Pep often seems to get it right so he's no lemon but, in a parallel universe, id love to watch Guardiola and Jose in charge of a couple of second division teams with low budgets and see if their famed coaching abilities could get promotion.

{Ed001's Note - it is more that every team he has taken over has got gradually worse under him after his first couple of years. He left after that because he said the players were no longer responding to his methods. He took over a Bayern side that was the best in Europe but turned into an average side in Europe.}


10.) 18 Jul 2019 23:02:01
Truth is Ed, if at the start of last season you’d offered any of us winning the Champions League, second place and a chance of some schadenfreude at United, we’d have bitten your hand off.

{Ed025's Note - im sure you would have 6times, all im saying is that the BIG ONE for liverpool is the league title mate, for the likes of city its the champions league..


11.) 19 Jul 2019 00:56:42
Ed25, we won the biggest and most prestigious club competition on the planet. If we don't win the PL (which I want us to win) next season, I will gladly take the biggest and most prestigious club competition on the planet, as a consolation prize. Peace!

{Ed025's Note - it was a great consolation prize redwolf and for most teams such as city its the holy grail, but for liverpool the premiership title is the one they want having never won it and i think we all know that mate..


12.) 19 Jul 2019 02:35:22
They didn't wack us ed025.it was a 50-50 game. still you guys need 1000 years to play at our level😝.

{Ed025's Note - yeah but we are in transition liverbird...well thats what everyone says when their team is not very good mate.. :)


13.) 19 Jul 2019 21:13:22
I dunno, the big one is the big one. If we won the league this coming season but not the ucl (id be surprised if we made the final again. We're good enough but 3 finals in a row? ) then the following season it would be the European cup we really wanted.

Despite what some say, utd's title tally hurts us. That is why the league is so important. The European cup is the biggest club trophy though. Tonnes of European clubs win the league every season, only one wins the ucl. Games against arsenal and chelsea seem like small ties compared to bayern and Barcelona in europe.


14.) 19 Jul 2019 08:48:55
Ed25, you've been in transition since Paul Rideout scored the goal that won you the FA Cup in 1995 (the same summer I left high school) BUT hey, that's none of my business.

{Ed025's Note - you mean to tell me you have left school redwolf?.. :)


15.) 19 Jul 2019 08:53:14
Ed025 is right, don't get me wrong extremely happy we won the UCL for the 6th time but I would swap it in heartbeat for the premier league last year as I'm sure City would want the UCL.

{Ed025's Note - your right kloppers...maybe you can swap next season..


16.) 19 Jul 2019 09:06:50
Regarding the league Ed025 Liverpool have been in transition since 1990😁.

{Ed025's Note - you had a good go last season though barry, if we win it before you though mate i will never let you hear the last of it.. :)


17.) 19 Jul 2019 09:29:59
Ed025,I suppose the big one to you blue boys is the Merseyside Derby again.
Only kidding mate you know we love you.

{Ed025's Note - we are coming after you this coming season tyler...you and city should be afraid mate...very afraid.. :)


18.) 20 Jul 2019 00:15:34
Touche ed025.


 

 

18 Jul 2019 15:39:44
Mentioned a while ago about teams around us strengthening.

Spurs have signed one player and are bound to lose at least 2 key players. Replacements will come at a hefty price.

City have signed Fernandinho's replacement and resigned another player they sold which will unlikely make their first team. Will they sign anymore players when Pep cannot even keep his current squad happy when it comes to minutes on the pitch?

Arsenal have signed none.

Chelsea cannot sign anyone.

UTD have made two signings. They will overpay big time if they want to sign their other targets which is a risk when it comes to those players flopping which has been the case for them since Fergie stepped down.

Everton signed one, oh and made the player they loaned from Barcelona permanent.

I really do not see the fuss at the moment that we have not been active when the teams around us have not really strengthened are either going to lose players or need to sell in order to add or overpay bigtime for their targets.

LFC are in a healthy position as Klopp has built a really good squad and we have not lost any of our first team starters.

So I guess we will all just have to be patient and wait and see if Klopp will actually add anymore players. We have a very big squad as it is and with Gomez and Ox coming back into the picture it makes us that much stronger. I am not a fan of Lallana but on his day he can pull some strings. Who knows, Brewster could have changed Klopp's mind when it comes to adding a new forward.

We can sit here and say but 'what if' key players get injured? That is what we say every season ain't it?

maxlfc

1.) 18 Jul 2019 15:55:23
Man Utd with Bissaka filling their problem position should be much stronger. Moreno showed us how much of a negative impact one weak link can be. Young was torrid for them. The problem is I simply can't see Ole getting the best out of the squad. He's so far out of his depth he makes a beached Whale look at home.


2.) 18 Jul 2019 16:01:31
There’s actually lots to feel positive about. Best keeper and centre back in the world play for us. Fabinho, Henderson and Wijnaldum are a good midfield unit, our front three need no introduction and we have the best attacking full backs around. And we’re current CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE. Can Klopp get a bit more out of them? Actually, I’m pretty sure he can.


3.) 18 Jul 2019 16:27:22
Who is to say Wan-Bissaka is going to make it in UTD's inept defence. One youngster with a massive transfer fee overlooking him when the defenders they already have not going to make things easy for him.

It is like Wan Bissaka has been dropped into a pool at the very deep end, the ddep end may just be too much for him.

If UTD had a sturdy defence then maybe it would have been easier for him to WB to settle in.

UTD are digging their hole deeper. It is going to take more than a Fergie to get them back on track.


4.) 18 Jul 2019 16:44:15
Spot on, Max. Utd have massive problems and gaping holes in their team that just dropping near 150m on Wan-Bissaka, Fernandes and Maguire won't fix overnight and that is aside from the huge elephant in the room called Paul Pogba. Using Utd's transfer business to compare with LFC is a unbalanced a comparison as you will ever find. What Utd are doing now is what LFC was doing 2/ 3 seasons ago so they are already three years late and a couple of bucks short compared to us.

WB is a top RB talent but a TAA, he is not. He is still learning the position and like Max said, will be dropped right into the deep end, something TAA did not have to do until his second season as a bonafide first teamer. Utd is doing the same thing they have been doing in the past and failing at as in, throwing loads of money at situations that cannot be fixed overnight. We shall see what happens with them.


5.) 18 Jul 2019 19:24:47
Well said Redwolf, I actually think Wan Bissaka would have been better off staying where he was for a couple of seasons and getting more experience, instead at 21 he's moved to a team where, for the price, he'll be expected to be a saviour of some kind. I actually feel sorry for him as the expectation could hinder his career.

{Ed025's Note - i find it hard to have sympathy for anyone who is getting paid around £100,000 per week johnny..


6.) 18 Jul 2019 19:58:23
You forgot to mention that Chelsea have sold arguably one of the best players in the Prem as well. They have seriously weakened themself.
He was pretty much the only player for them who ever caused us problems and they can’t even sign a replacement oof.


7.) 18 Jul 2019 20:32:59
Think you'll find Chelsea have already signed an above average player called Christian Pulisic. Glad Hazard has gone though. Terrific player who always caused us problems.


8.) 18 Jul 2019 20:43:10
OGRed. Hazard is a massive loss but I think they will be a better team for it. They'll all have to pull their weight whereas before I think a lot of the players took their foot off the gas and just hoped Hazard would win the game for them.

Now that they don't have that luxury, the whole team will have to prove their weight and I think they'll be better for it. Maybe not immediately, but over time, they will be a better side.


9.) 19 Jul 2019 07:48:26
Good original post that Max and when said it does put a lot into perspective. All fans like to look at what other teams are doing but I think it’s important that we keep our eyes in our boat. It doesn’t matter who other teams sign or sell As it makes no difference if we are doing the business on the pitch. This season is going to be massive for Origi and Brewster as our front 3 have played a hell of a lot of football in the last 24 months. It’s always exciting if we sign someone but if we don’t then the same applies. In the words of Stevie G we just go again.


10.) 19 Jul 2019 10:17:13
Max, mark this day in the calendar,

I agree with you!


11.) 19 Jul 2019 18:31:52
Similar to us and coutinio EP. You could be right.


12.) 19 Jul 2019 16:51:32
I only meant in terms of the potential impact of his career Ed025. Fully agree it's difficult to have too much sympathy when you think about the £s.

{Ed025's Note - it is johnny mate..


 

 

09 Jul 2019 18:47:12
Many worrying about LFC not being active in the transfer window as yet.

Arsenal are at a dead end signing players.

Spurs are taking risks which they cannot afford.

Cit have signed one player, replacement for Fernandinho. They likely need to move players on first like Delph before adding anymore.

Chelsea cannot sign anyone.

UTD are going to spend way over the odds if they want to sign anyone else.

Pretty sure we will see at least 3 players arrive before the window shuts. Looks like all transfer business is tight lip sealed coming out of Anfield but at least we can turn to the Eds for info when required.

Keep up the good work Eds!

maxlfc

1.) 09 Jul 2019 19:45:15
Much like last season with Karius I think we will assess the players already here, Wilson, Lewis, Kent, Brewster etc. If they are up to the required standard I don't think we will do much this summer, if they are not ready yet then I think we might do something.


2.) 09 Jul 2019 19:51:39
Possibly when african cup of nations finished we might see some action, pepe, cornet, chaukweze linked so maybe 1 of them, we do need genuine cover at left back milner is better in midfield an should cover in last resort emergencies . Sturridge has left so his position needs filling preferably with an attacking midfielder or flexible attacker, the team lacks creativity in midfield so that needs addressing as it was our weak point last season and if we don't address that we aren't getting stronger .


3.) 09 Jul 2019 20:02:53
If Man Utd sign Longstaff for 50 million, then they've completely lost the plot.

Apparently they were in talks to sign Youri Tielemens but decided against it, and Leicester signed him for 40 million.

I don't know about you guys, but do the maths. A Belgium international with Champions League experience and loads of top flight experience and still only 22 years old, but no, you try and sign Sean bloody Longstaff instead for more. Madness.


4.) 09 Jul 2019 20:29:28
Max so this is an opportunity for Liverpool.


5.) 09 Jul 2019 20:54:11
Acered, what do you mean by opportunity. The players we sign will be backup to the 1st team.

The Eds have repearedly said do not expect a massive tranfer fee for a player like Pepe unless let's say Salah had to leave.

The Eds get it right most of the time. Our business will probably be done just before the window shuts. It is heading that way.


6.) 09 Jul 2019 21:47:30
I know a lot of people want a new signing but not many even know what position they want strengthening. Maybe instead of spending a lot of money on a forward that won't play, or a midfielder in an already congested midfield, maybe AOC could fill that role and the club use the money to pay off some debt. Boring I know.


7.) 09 Jul 2019 23:09:09
Left back cover and a quality attacker, who is so good that he is genuine competition for our front 3. that's it for me, Liverpool must improve the squad and it is good to have competition for places.

Finding that attacker is easier said than done, but I think we were lucky last season that the big 3 never sustained long term injuries.


8.) 09 Jul 2019 23:41:45
Sounds like you're clutching at straws to justify us not signing anyone, seems to me you are just as concerned as the rest of us.


9.) 09 Jul 2019 23:52:25
We need to secure and keep the gap that has developed

One or two in to just make it seem impossible to catch us, mind games with the other teams locker rooms. They do not want anyone joining this filthy Liverpool team. They couldn't catch us last year, imagine what goes through their minds if we get even stronger.


10.) 10 Jul 2019 00:09:30
What those other clubs do has no bearing on who liverpool are signing.


11.) 10 Jul 2019 08:07:22
Epic Potato- I read that Tielemens turned down united. I can’t remember where I read it or how reliable it is but that may be why?


12.) 10 Jul 2019 10:04:11
c_matthews94 - If that's true then fair play to the lad. It just shows that he's not all about the money and chose to be part of Leicester for footballing reasons.

Still, as you say, not sure how reliable the source is, but may be true.


 

 

01 Jul 2019 18:42:23
Everybody listen up, the Eds have continously repeated themselves that there will be no 'big' sinings unless 1st team starters leave.

Anyone thinking that Bruno Fernandes is on his way need to smell the coffee.

If one of Firmino, Salah and Mane had to leave then only will the club go out smack bang on another inflated signing.

Fernandes will not sign for Liverpool playing second fiddle to our current front 3. Why is this so difficult to understand?

maxlfc

1.) 01 Jul 2019 19:02:04
What's that on your nose mate ;)


2.) 01 Jul 2019 19:02:08
Max. Not being funny lad but you do know Bruno can play in a midfield 3 so Salah mane or firmino would not have to leave and Bruno could actually start in the same team as all 3. Not saying that he is coming by the way just saying he can sign and we don't have to lose anybody.


3.) 01 Jul 2019 19:05:15
Not for one second do I think Fernandes will sign but what makes you think he will play second fiddle to the midfield 3?


4.) 01 Jul 2019 19:07:26
Max, you are shooting in the dark. No matter how accurate your post is and how many times the Ed's say what they say (exactly what you have reitirated), the howlers and moaners won't stop asking the same redundant questions. For some of them, they just can't help it. For me, I'm chill and enjoying the summer with my lovely wife and beautiful boys.


5.) 01 Jul 2019 19:38:26
Max, Fernandes plays central midfield and scored 31 goals in 50 appearances last season. Its been discussed on here many a time that when the front three arent firing on all cylinders, wed like to see more goals from midfield.

To me, a signing like Fernandes makes total sense, especially when you have an injury prone Lallana on the books.


6.) 01 Jul 2019 19:50:40
You and me both RedWolf, tbh I couldn't give a damn about the transfer window, it's barely entered my mind to be honest. We have a great squad, anybody extra is welcome and that's all I'll say on it but I do feel for the Eds, having to answer the same old BS day in day out, I couldn't do it so a massive thank you to the Eds for your patience.


7.) 01 Jul 2019 20:21:46
Spot on, Salah. I don't know how the Ed's hold their nerve answering the same useless questions that have been answered over and over and over again.


8.) 01 Jul 2019 20:29:28
And then those who think we will be signing Bruno Fernandes do not think properly when we have in midfield with AOX, Shaqiri, Hendo, Keita, Lallana, let alone Gini and Fabinho.

And please, I am sure many will read this too, Coutinho will not be returning to Liverpool. END OF.


9.) 01 Jul 2019 20:44:14
Fernandes has three things that all of those midfielders listed lack, an ability to score goals, an ability to pick a pass and an ability to take a dead ball, he can play number 8 or number 10 in a midfield three, we lacked goals and creativity in midfield and paid for it against City, Everton, West Ham, Everton and United which is why we fell short. We may not sign Fernandes but to suggest we don't need a spark of creativity in midfield is blinkered beyond belief.


10.) 01 Jul 2019 20:53:18
Nobody said anything about needing an attacking midfielder 6times. Take your blinkers off and see that the Liverpool squad is fully loaded in midfield.

Bit ironic what you say about goals from midfield when the Liverpool squad pretty much matched City's goal tally this past season plus we did pretty well goal scoring wise in the CL too.

Moan moan moan.


11.) 01 Jul 2019 20:58:33
Cant disagree with that 6times.


12.) 01 Jul 2019 21:05:42
Well said 6Times.


13.) 01 Jul 2019 22:07:26
Dont forget that the Copa America and Afcon are on-going, and Liverpool may have to act if something went awry with the players away there.


14.) 01 Jul 2019 22:20:55
1 - doesn't mean that fans can't ask
2 - doesn't mean that the eds know everything that happens the second it happens (Fabinho anyone? )
3 - you ask more questions that anyone lol :p.


15.) 01 Jul 2019 23:01:28
Max, the Eds have said numerous times that Liverpool are looking for a forward/ attack minded player this summer. So any of us expecting that kind of player are thinking properly, as you put it. The Eds' have told us there is interest in Cornet and that previously Brandt would have been a good option.
So even if we are fully loaded in midfield Klopp feels we need something extra. You just never know with transfers, last season we ended up with Alison and Fabinho and I was suprised by both.


16.) 01 Jul 2019 23:15:44
6times, we won the champions league and finished on 97pts this season. Easily the most any team has got without winning the league and more than Utd have ever got throughout their dominance of the premier league yet I still have to listen to people saying we are short of this that or the other.

Then you list games where that has cost us. Says who? And whos to say that if we sacrificed one of our normal midfield 3 for Fernandes it wouldnt have cost us in other games with the reduction in stability in the midfield?
We have a brilliant team who just had a brilliant season I really think well cope without these fabled goals from midfield.

I dont necessarily think we wont make any big signings either Max. I have faith that if the right player becomes available the club will do all they can to get him but its not a necessity. Theres no pressure on us to massively improve the squad so lets just relax and see what happens.


17.) 01 Jul 2019 23:57:16
Thanks for the post Max, things on here were getting a bit boring :)


18.) 02 Jul 2019 00:34:31
Just bit concerned that we weren't good enough to win the league last season so without bringing new players into the squad how do we expect to push on from last season.


19.) 02 Jul 2019 01:09:43
Klopp4pm, I think it's unfair to judge us as "not good enough" to win it last year. It was a freak season with City pipping us. Can we expect them to play much better or can we expect to play better? Only time will tell of course, but you take last years team and add in a fit again (hopefully) Ox, Gomez (hopefully) getting a full season, Keita (hopefully) hitting form and maybe the emergence of Brewster. Add to that the fact Fabinho only got going halfway through the season and to question us not being good enough (we did win big ears remember) is a bit rough.


20.) 02 Jul 2019 04:08:04
Max im sure nearly LFC fan at some point has said we need more creativity and goals from midfield.

All the midfielders we have besides the Ox, Lallana (injury prone) and Keita (hasnt hit the ground running) are workhorses and do an amazing job at hunting the ball down and retaining possession, but they aren't creative or get many goals.

we rely on the front 3 to score most of the goals and our wide players (Trent, robbo, Salah, mane) for most of the assists.

Van dijk outscored everybody in our midfield last season, except Milner but thats only because he takes penalties.
Van Dijk was also on par with Henderson for assists and only 1 behind Milner. Whilst matching keita fabinho and gini combined.

If that doesn't tell you we need a creative goalscoring midfielder nothing will.

Personally im hoping the Ox can stay injury free because he could be that midfielder. 2017/ 18 he was joint 2nd on assists with Bobby and Mane lol
we all wanted Fekir for a reason and unfortunately the alternative we got in Shaqiri doesn't seem to have the attitude to play the way Klopp wants every time he is called on.

{Ed001's Note - you really do not understand stats nor how Liverpool play. Those midfielders are creative and allow the goals to be racked up by being workhorse who win the ball back early while the opposition is committed to an attack. The nonsense about van Dijk, who played more games than anyone else, outscoring our midfield is ridiculous. He is forward at every setpiece and he played more games than any of them, he should outscore them.}


21.) 02 Jul 2019 06:26:53
Ed is right the midfield 3 work their socks off and that's why they are rotated so much. Trent and Robbo created so many assist because of the midfield 3.


22.) 02 Jul 2019 08:53:14
Liverpool v Man City 0-0
Chelsea v Liverpool 1-1
Arsenal v Liverpool 1-1
Leicester v Liverpool 1-1
West Ham v Liverpool 1-1
Man United v Liverpool 0-0
Everton v Liverpool 0-0

What do these games all have in common? Our front three were shut out or were not firing on all cylinders. So we needed a goal from elsewhere, which it didnt come as we literally have no creativity in midfield to change things a little. We were second best last season and will probably still be second best again if we stand still and dont address it. We have do not have one midfielder that can pull off a bit of magic to open up a tight defence, or who can score a goal from nothing. Thats why City win tight games and we get draws.


23.) 02 Jul 2019 06:30:30
Hi Ed001. I think everyone is getting hung on the fact we. Must sign Fernandes or Pp or Fekir for some reason mate. I can see both sides of the debate. What will be will be I guess.


24.) 02 Jul 2019 06:58:03
My apologies ed1 I do understand how we play and the role the midfielders take and that stats dont show everything - prime example being lallana against Burnley for Mane's Goal but no stat will show his contribution - and yes, that type of midfield works brilliant against teams that do come at us at times or teams who try to play out from the back.
But those who dont attack us or just launch the ball forward, the midfield are kind of being wasted because they dont have that eye for a pass through/ over a wall of players and only the Ox and Lallana seem to have the ability/ confidence to just run straight at/ through the wall of players.
Not going to lie, I loved it last season when Matip went on his mad runs, because its what was needed sometimes. its just scary because hes a cb and left a gaping hole in doing so xD

Dont get me wrong, towards the end of the season Hendo started playing to his best and he was picking out passes for fun and I hope he keeps that up in the coming season and if the Ox and Lallana can stay fit, then they will be that extra dimension we need

And I was supposed to remove the part about Van Dijk's goals since he is a beast in the air for set pieces and up for every one of them, but his assists I wanted to keep. He has amazing vision and can pick out any pass and that is something I do believe we need in a midfielder as well.

{Ed001's Note - have you actually watched our midfielders play? Both Henderson and Fabinho, in particular, can play those passes. Keita can make the runs, as can Ox. Also the reason why our full-backs get so many assists is because that is what we look to when teams sit back, they get forward and get the ball into dangerous areas.}


25.) 02 Jul 2019 07:43:47
Ed001. I don't agree with your response to ogred Phil. Just because the midfield 3 work hard that's enough? Don't get me wrong even if we do sign a Fernandes for arguments sake I think klopp in the big games will always go back to a midfield 3 of fabinho hendo and wini/ milner as he can trust them to keep the shape and work hard as you pointed out and rightly so. Bernardo Silva is a perfect example of someone who works his socks off and also scores and creates. He played 21 games in centre of midfield last season scoring 5 goals and creating 7 assists so both can be done. As much as I do love fabinho Henderson and wini we do miss that spark in certain games and that for me is the only position we need to strghten this year along with cover for lb. I also don't agree with you saying vvd should be outscoring or creating more assists than the midfield but hey he is the best in the business so that's one thing we will agree on mate.

{Ed001's Note - I am not going to waste my time because you clearly do not understand what is written the first time so I won't explain again because you are completely missing the point.}


26.) 02 Jul 2019 10:25:00
Always great to get some actual football insight from fans on what the team is doing wrong and who we should sign. I look forwards to you guys taking over from Klopp and Liverpool securing the treble.

The manager and board will buy if they see value. The whining from some parts of the fanbase is exhausting. We won the champions league and barely got pipped for the league. You could just as easily make the argument that a new signing would ruin the teams chemistry as improve it. I personally would like a signing but the idea that "We'll go backwards or standstill without one" is madness. We still have to bed in Ox, Keita and Brewster. It's a young squad that will improve naturally. People need to get a grip.


27.) 02 Jul 2019 11:38:37
Ok ed001. Fair enough mate. I understand the game to a good level but if you don't want to have a discussion that's fine. In many peoples opinions no cb should be outscoring or creating more assists than a midfielder. I have nothing against fabinho ( I called and people can read through my posts for him to be signed 12 months before he came) Henderson or wini and have already said in the big games klopp would always revert back to those three but in the games where teams sit back a player with that bit of magic like a Bernardo Silva, David Silva, fekir for example get you the win instead of a draw.

{Ed001's Note - opinions are all well and good but they are out of context if they are just saying that a cb should outscore a midfielder with no account taken of games played or the way the team plays. Anyone who just thinks that clearly does not understand the modern game. How many goals and assists did Makalele get? If any centre-back that goes forward for setpieces got less than him, I would be speaking to them about what they are doing on those setpieces.

It also helps that van Dijk played more games than any other outfield player, a lot more than most of our midfield which was rotated even when there were no injuries. Or is that not relevant to you?

If you want to take 'many people's opinions' as truth, then you are just a sheep and it is a pointless conversation as most people are morons with an inability to do anything but follow the herd on social media. That is why the world is in such a state. I will stick for thinking for myself and analysing things my way and coming to my own conclusions.

You haven't even taken into account Shaqiri, isn't that what he is for? And Keita and Ox can drive with the ball at opponents, which is what we most lacked last season. The Silvas are not just about pretty passing, it is because they run at opponents with the ball and draw people out of position before they pass that they are dangerous. If they just sat on the outskirts and picked out passes they would offer very little.}


28.) 02 Jul 2019 12:08:27
Ed001. I'm not having a go mate. I take the makalele point on board. what a marvelous player by the way. I'm not saying every midfield player should get 10 goals+ 10 assists a season. Obviously that's not realistic as much as we would all love it. I just think we lack sometimes when we play 3 grafters in midfield and obviously that's not a nice term they do have more to there game but for me I think and probably a lot of others do that we need someone in the 3 like a Fernandes/ fekir for example that can to use a term that does be thrown around unlock defences. Ox for me was what the Silva's are before he got injured prime example his goals against man city both running with the ball. I also like keita but massive improvement is needed by him in my opinion and shaqiri has also done well at times. Do you think we should just stick with what we have an not improve ed. I think we have an amazing squad but it never hurts to add a fresh face.

{Ed001's Note - you always have to look to improve, but I also think what we have is good enough and better than people realise. They will also have the added freedom of Fabinho from the start of the season. They will get more chances to score, as Wijnaldum showed in the second half of the season. Though Henderson really does need to work on his finishing!}


29.) 02 Jul 2019 12:14:51
Bang on ed01. We also have the players should klopp want to change it up 4 1 3 2 or 4 2 3 1. I think we're best at 4 3 3, with 3 hard working, technically sound midfielders behind our quick intelligent forwards.

You need goals from your CBs, its something we really lacked before Van Dijke came. I remember us getting corners and knowing we wouldn't score. I think it was salah's first season or the one before. We never scored from corners. All the very best title winning teams have CBs who get 5 - 10 a season. And we paid 75 million pounds for him btw. Of course we want goals from him.


30.) 02 Jul 2019 12:19:08
Cheers ed001. Agree with fabinho being here from the start and having a full season under his belt should do wonders. I'm a huge fan of his. I'm hoping the ox can be what we are all looking for. Really like him and I'll admit I wasn't keen when we were signing him but he has changed my mind. Ps. I'm not on any social media ed. Forgot to say it in my last post I think it's poison to be honest.

{Ed001's Note - I wasn't meaning you were on social media, I was trying to point out how the opinion of many is usually wrong. Social media is just the easiest example.}


31.) 02 Jul 2019 13:23:35
6 times, i'll tell you what ll those games have in common. we created chances and didn't score enough of them. it happens, that's football. the worlds best scoring forwards and midfielders have those days. of course we can strengthen but usually it comes at a cost, a more attack minded player will usually mean a slightly lesser effective player at defending. very few can do it all.


32.) 02 Jul 2019 13:39:52
im not on social media either, I got sick of all the snowflakes of the world and how sad it has become that we have to be so careful what we say because if 1 person gets upset it turns into a full on avalanche -. -

Anyway, ed1 I did mention Henderson started picking out passes for fun towards the end of the season, after Fabinho settled anyway and I hope he can keep that up, and improve next season.
Also I mentioned that the Ox is the type of player who makes the runs im talking about.
If he stays fit and his knee doesn't set him back, he'll add that missing something again. Was very impressed with his 2 cameos because he instantly changed the dimension of the game for us even after only just coming back from such a long injury and I cant wait to see him play again.
There was an article about him the other day which made me laugh, because it was basically saying that Liverpool fans are over hyping him after a year of him not playing but they obviously didnt see him the season before xD

Not convinced on Keita yet as I didnt watch him in Germany, YouTube videos don't show the whole picture and he hasnt hit the ground running quite yet but he did show flashes of the player he can be. Hopefully this coming season he can show us the player a lot of people expected when he signed :)

My opinions are my own from watching most of our games, I always go over to my dads to watch us play and *cough*stream games that aren't show live over here*cough* and probably my most unpopular opinion (his too) on a player from watching most games is that im not convinced by Widjnaldum.
Dont get me wrong he is a fantastic player, when he turns up. But his consistency is an issue for me and for the following 2 seasons he seems to find consistency for the last 2-3 months making everybody forget all the games he goes missing, because he does play very very well.
There has been many a game that hes been subbed off or around the 70th minute his name has been mentioned or he has lost possession and honestly I have sat there and me and my dad have both asked "wait, when did he come on? "

Again that is my opinion and I know most people wont see it that way. I might miss things or it could be that we have mostly attacked down the opposite side to him since he tends to be on the right side of the midfield 3, such as if Trent didnt play, was having a poor game or we found a weakness to exploit on the left so robbo became our outlet against 11 man defences.

Apologies for the long az replies. I have a problem with shortening things >_>.


33.) 02 Jul 2019 13:45:21
Lol this is golden. Many may think I'm up ed1s arse because I wish him a good day daily (BTW Ed, I don't think I did today so hope you have a great day mate! ) anyway, come on lol this fella has more knowledge about football than the lot of us combined, why even try to argue against him? You'll fail every single time.

Opinions are opinions and facts are facts and I think you'll find the majority of the time Ed1 speaks facts or atleast stuff that makes sense unlike the majority of us lot, me included. Respect for somebody as knowledgeable as that man is needed, show it more. He doesn't know his info from fresh air, he clearly researches it and has done for years.

Theres been times in situations like this where Ed1 has destroyed me, why? Because I was wrong and he knew more which was pretty damn evident. Knowledge is power, respect it and accept we may all be wrong at times, it happens.

Interesting thread, nobody likes to be wrong but it is what it is. We move on and learn from it, take it in and be more clued up. This is no dig at anybody BTW just respect the person who REALLY knows his sh*t.


34.) 02 Jul 2019 14:35:15
All said and done; i trust klopp. People were slating him last season, after the window. Saying he went against his "philosophy" of not having to spend a fortune. He brought in Alisson, Fabhino, Keita and Shaqiri for around 170mil. And spent a similar amount the season before on Salah, Van Djike, Robbo and Aoc (140-50) And look what he has done. We were a team in decline, not even making the europa league.
He brought in some great bargains, got us into the champions league, the first time for a while and we made the final! (which i honestly think we would have won if salah had not been injured, everything he hit went in! )
Then we got 97 points which is title winning level. We pushed city to the last game. A wonder strike from Kompany turned out to be the difference.

He signed Robertson and we were underwhelmed. Now he is one of the best left backs in the league if not Europe.
He brought in the ox, we were underwhelmed. He was amazing that season. His goals against city and his link up play with salah made him an instant hit with us fans.
Even Salah, we were not overwhelmed, 4th choice signing. And then he goes and breaks all the records for liverpool strikers. And we have had some f#####g good strikers: Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez.

The man knows what he's doing.

City have endless wealth and can get just about whoever they want. They have the best facilities etc. 17/ 18 they blew everyone away (except us) had won the league before xmas. But now we can go toe to toe with them, they were scared when they came to Anfield, played a very defencive game and got the draw they came for.

For the first window in a long long time we can relax, we have a brilliant team, capable of getting 97 points and lifting the European Cup.


35.) 02 Jul 2019 16:34:05
Salah if brown nosing was an Olympic event you'd win multiple golds.


36.) 02 Jul 2019 16:33:05
I don't think we'll do anything to be honest. Couple of youth players maybe in the hope the can be backup a few games during the season. New deals for existing players as well but I think we're happy enough with the squad.


37.) 02 Jul 2019 16:39:37
Spot on Ed. It baffles me that people cant see it. We were unbelievable last season with the personnel we have because they suit our system. Yet stick a goal scoring midfielder in and well never lose another game it seems.
If only football were that simple.


38.) 02 Jul 2019 18:42:54
Oh Hi waro! welcome back you :) .


39.) 03 Jul 2019 01:04:04
Well you can relax with the wife and kids on the run in next year because we won't be in touching distance of city and I think one may come out of the pack and go past us, but you won't question the club for not spending this summer because de derra you are superfan with the ability with one finger to swat aside anyone who dares to question the mighty empire LIVERPOOL FC and it's evil leader Darth Henry, keep this post (if it gets shown) until may next year to prove me wrong, but it won't be shown again then because we'll be nowhere near the top of the league if we go with what we have FACT.

Maybe an fa cup and top 4 is what we'll achieve, but hey the balance sheet will be the envy of the premier League and we will become the new spurs and people will say how well we've done considering we've spent no money. I really can't wait.


40.) 02 Jul 2019 19:57:19
Thanks, very nice of you Salah.


41.) 03 Jul 2019 05:01:04
Some of the worst comments I've read on here for a while Waro. Where do you get your kicks, casualty?


42.) 03 Jul 2019 06:35:34
Waro, I think you have just stolen negativewalters spot as the most negative poster on this site mate wow xD.


 

 

27 Jun 2019 17:26:31
I think it is fair to say that if we did sign the likes of Fekir then one of or at least both of Lallana and Shaqiri need to be moved on. Fekir is not really a wide player so doubt he will be a versatile forward and Lyon not going to waste their time with us making an offer which does not suite them. Fekir also not going to sign playing second fiddle to Firmino.

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1.) 27 Jun 2019 17:53:57
It wouldn't surprise me if Klopp and Edwards are just playing the waiting game. Fekir has one year left on his contract and Lyon have said that he's leaving.

We're obviously in a much better bargaining position if we wait and Lyon end up "offering" him to us.

Could you see the club doing this, Eds?

I read an article about all the prem teams and their 20m+ signings, and spurs had 7, and all 7 were signed in the last week of their transfer window. That Daniel Levy is no muppet.

{Ed002's Note - Not with discussions continuing with another side.}


2.) 27 Jun 2019 18:50:31
If he was happy to sign last year, he should be even happier now.

But agreed on Lallana and Shaqiri.


3.) 27 Jun 2019 18:57:28
I wonder can we even move lallana on so easily, his injuries of late and into his 30s I can't see many clubs wanting to pay his wages. I've a feeling he will be more than happy to remain at Liverpool until his contract runs out, . No need to sell shaqiri, a very useful squad player, hopefully he can adapt to suit our current formation better in time.


4.) 27 Jun 2019 19:57:23
Ed002 is that Milan who are in discussions with Lyon?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


5.) 27 Jun 2019 21:05:18
I know you dont like talking fees Ed but is the fee in region of half it was to be last year (27.5)?

Just thinking if so we have moved on as I think we would have already been in.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no agreement to buy him.}


6.) 27 Jun 2019 21:29:24
I think we should keep shaqiri. We cant buy one and take two out, when thats where were shortish.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2019 19:01:50
Not going to happen unless he has been promised to start alongside VVD.

Another clickbait rumour.

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03 Jul 2019 20:42:48
Why are people still fussing about FFP and money. Just forget about money. No wonder the Eds are fed up explaining themselves that they do not want to discuss finances as majority on here including myself have no idea about how transfer fees really get laid out.

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03 Jul 2019 20:36:32
It is as clear as daylight that we will not be signing any midfieldrs.

Backup versatile forward most likely to arrive. Possibly a LB as cover and a GK only if Mignolet leaves.

If the likes of Salah leaves which ain't looking likely then do not expect fireworks.

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29 Jun 2019 18:43:59
There is a reason why Clyne is not in the picture. The club want rid and that surely says enough about the situation.

There must be a reason why Bournemouth do not want to take the option to sign him permanently either otherwise they would have made an offer after loaning him.

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Thanks Ed.

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20 Jul 2019 13:54:48
If Salah wanted to go he would have been throwing his toys like Coutinho Ed025.

That is the difference. We know Salah wants to play for Real but at this point he has limited options so he will not be forcing a move unless another club to his prefernce puts up or shuts up.

Hope that clears the situation Ed025.

Salah is a beast, he is ours.

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20 Jul 2019 13:44:49
Lol Ed025. Show me another team finishing on the points we did last season in 2nd.

Very fine margins, FACT!

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City won the league without Pep Hailstones.

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Drogie, has Pep won the CL with City, let alone made it to a final with them?

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20 Jul 2019 16:23:14
Ed002, our most reliable source has said he expects a vesatile forward to arrive at Anfield. Please forget about Pepe.

Please be patient. Oh and this player will not be on the level to replace Mane, Salah or Firminho.

End of the story and if that players does not arrive, please do not throw your toys out of the cot.

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