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06 Oct 2019 17:03:14
well done to the U23's who got a 3-2 win today.

Joe Gelhardt got a brace against us, i remember hearing we were looking at signing him? is there any truth? 17 decent prospect.

The Southern Red



02 Sep 2019 12:33:31
Kent, Finally, off to rangers, region of £6/ 7m plus add ons. Good luck to the fella!

The Southern Red



21 Aug 2019 14:41:12
Rumour has it Herbie Kane is staying and will be staying in the first team squad, is there any truth in this?

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1.) 21 Aug 2019 18:31:58
I guess it's a " " scenario. Klopp wants him for the League Cup but Kane is still hoping to go out on loan for his development.

I can't blame the lad. If we go far in the League cup, he'll lose his place to more experienced squad players and if we don't, he's stayed to play 1 or 2 games.

2.) 21 Aug 2019 21:09:37
Best of luck to the lad, whichever road he takes.

3.) 21 Aug 2019 21:33:53
Would make no little sense to not let him move on, it seems near impossible to think he has any hope of getting anywhere near our first team now or in the future, he's not that young anymore either he should be looking to move on.

4.) 22 Aug 2019 01:12:20
Is he good? And how is his style of play?

5.) 22 Aug 2019 10:23:54
How are we classing 20 year olds as "not that young"?! Sheer madness!

6.) 22 Aug 2019 11:28:58
I had the pleasure of watching the lad all season at Donny rovers and he was fantastic! He's a midfielder who likes to dictate the tempo but also chipped in with a few goals. By no means am I saying he's ready for the first team but it sounds like a lot of nonsense saying a 20 yo is 'not that young' and to move him on 😂.

7.) 22 Aug 2019 12:14:08
I don't get it either. Why are players expected to be top level so young? If they aren't ready by 23 they are written off? Makes no sense to me, especially looking at how many players over the years we have bought in deemed ready and or good enough for our first team, who have turned out to be poor. Ok it has improved significantly recently, but how many of the roles filled by those signings could have just been given to one of our graduates.

8.) 22 Aug 2019 12:19:09
He played in the Number 6 role for the U23s so potentially there could be a place for him as backup to Fabinho.

9.) 22 Aug 2019 14:23:48
Herbie Kane is not good enough for the first team in my opinion. I know he was rated by Stevie but he has turned into a championship player. (in my opinion)

10.) 22 Aug 2019 15:37:31
And what is (your opinion) based upon irishscouser2?

Unless you followed Doncaster the whole year last year and have attended Liverpool training since then you cannot make such an assumption.

11.) 22 Aug 2019 19:50:38
Playing well for Doncaster means nothing, he has never looked good enough for the first team.

People might think he's old cos he's the oldest looking 20 year old in football.

12.) 22 Aug 2019 20:13:33
How does playing well for Doncaster as a 19 year old mean nothing, their fans and coach raves about him playing.

But to be fair once you are 20 you cannot improve ever you are stuck at that level for life.

“He has never looked good enough for the first team” I wil say It again he’s back from a loan as a 19 year old and the club haven’t loaned him out as want to have him in and around the FIRST team squad.

He may never make it at Liverpool but to write him off now is just plain odd.

{Ed025's Note - yeah...and dirty boots wont clean themselves SR..

13.) 22 Aug 2019 21:44:57
We say the same thing almost every year about a youngster, minus Brewster and TAA who from early on you could see they were better than most. Strange I don't remember them being loaned out.99% of our youngsters are decent players and will do well in the lower leagues, not Liverpool.

14.) 22 Aug 2019 22:32:11
well ed, you must know, if the boot room comes back the golden years are upon us.

I am a fan of Kane, probably won't make it at liverpool but i dislike people discarding young players as "deadwood"

{Ed001's Note - we will only know if he is good enough when he gets a chance.}

15.) 23 Aug 2019 18:26:00
I've said on another thread (regarding the next recruit from the academy after TAA and Brewster) . The fact that Klopp wants him to stay with the first team squad then you never know.

Kane could be the next TAA/ Brewster. At this stage Klopp and the coaching staff know more than we do as they see him in training, and we are just speculating, based on the fact he was at Doncaster last season whether he is or isn't good enough.

16.) 23 Aug 2019 20:04:46
My apologies when I stated he's not that young I never knew he was only 20, I always had the thought he was around the 23 mark, he certainly doesn't look that young.

It's the fact he plays in a position where he's currently 8 or 9th in pecking order is the realistic issue that I see his Liverpool future being unlikely.
Never intended to sound like I was completely writing the lad off.

17.) 25 Aug 2019 08:48:50
9th in the pecking order, who’s ahead of him, you including gerrard and alonso.

18.) 25 Aug 2019 10:03:00
The other Kane, oh yer Harry! Didn’t he get started late too, not everyone develops the same. Might take a few more years so all we care about is talent and him taking chances when they arrive.

20 is nothing, still got 15 years decent football in him maybe more!

19.) 25 Aug 2019 20:09:10
Southern red. fabinho hendo wiji Milner keita OX lallana Jones. That's 8 players who are clearly considered ahead of Kane currently.

Do you really see him competing for first team? Playing in the u23s might benefit him who knows but my point is that it's unlikely he can break into this team and a move would be surely his best career option. Would you not agree?



20 Aug 2019 12:01:04
Apparently we have rejected an approach from a Norwegian team for Duncan.

The Southern Red

1.) 20 Aug 2019 13:50:15
Would that be "DUNKIN BISCUIT"? Seriously he replaced Brewster last night and did better in his half hour than Brewster in an hour.

2.) 20 Aug 2019 18:33:28

3.) 20 Aug 2019 20:23:42
Imho I think Duncan could be a top player.



12 Aug 2019 13:20:40
Looks like Kane is off to Portsmouth, slightly odd move given last seasons performances but hopefully can help them win the league.

The Southern Red

1.) 12 Aug 2019 16:36:04
Wait are you talking about Mr H kane or Mr H kane 🤔.

{Ed025's Note - herbie would be my guess cod..

2.) 12 Aug 2019 17:55:37
The true H Kane of this country Herbie.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 21:34:01
Harry swore on his daughters life that he would never play for Portsmouth!

4.) 13 Aug 2019 09:26:50
Might be a blessing in disguise considering how little of a summer break he had. International break soon so hopefully Brazil don't rush him back for that and he comes back fit and refreshed.




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08 Oct 2019 17:58:29
Hi Ed’s just wanted to ask how come Kane was kept at the club rather than allowing a loan move. Seems bonkers given his progress in league 1 last year?

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - good loan moves are not easy to arrange. The right one wasn't possible.}

1.) 08 Oct 2019 19:01:41
makes sense i thought that Hull was a good option for him with his old manager, do you see him getting any opportunities in the 1st team this season? i know he got a small run out in the league cup but.

2.) 08 Oct 2019 21:40:26
Herbie has more chance of getting me some points than the 'Kane' I have in my fantasy team.



07 Oct 2019 16:23:25
“Barcelona have released annual accounts which show how much the club owes others within football, and it’s Liverpool which stands out.

From the original Coutinho fee, it’s stated €94m is still to be paid. “

Hi Ed’s I know you always are against talking financials as people don’t fully get it, but is this correct about how much is outstanding for Coutinho?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - That would have been the case when in the period the accounts relate to but is not the case any longer.}

1.) 07 Oct 2019 21:12:56
I just read the report it seems to relate to money owed to a third party lender rather than Liverpool, if I didn't understand finances before I certainly don't now after reading the mirrors take on it.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation ad nausea.}

2.) 08 Oct 2019 08:10:22
Thanks Ed makes sense! Didn’t think of it as a financial statement even though it is a financial statement!

3.) 08 Oct 2019 08:58:45
I’d love to know whether the hacks to write these stories write them knowing they are nonsensical but sell papers or are they really that stupid?



24 Sep 2019 16:39:00
Hi ed's i know there was a lot of talk about Adam Lewis stepping up into the first team this year, obviously this hasn't happened.

is this just a case of not being able to make the step or others jumping ahead of him?

i have noticed that Tony Gallagher has been starting ahead of him in the last few U23's.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - others ahead of him mate.}

1.) 24 Sep 2019 17:47:34
Isn't he also making the jump to re-position as a central midfielder or am I thinking of someone else?

2.) 24 Sep 2019 18:25:50
Thanks Ed! I do remember thinking Tony could be a useful player when we first bought him but doesn’t seem to of really progressed that much.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

3.) 24 Sep 2019 20:10:26
We have tried to reinvent him as a midfielder, he ain't ready at left back and might never be his decision making and defending needs too improve big time.



04 Sep 2019 17:36:41
What is everyone’s thoughts on the youth players called up to champions league.

Specifically Kane, is that to fill numbers or do we think he is being considered an option?

The Southern Red

1.) 04 Sep 2019 18:58:57
He's on "List B", whereby you can register an unlimited number of players under a certain age that have been eligible to play for the club for over 2 years.

If he's still at the club (which he is) it makes no sense not to register him on the list.

2.) 04 Sep 2019 20:59:27
They didn’t register hoeverr.

3.) 04 Sep 2019 23:59:37
I think hoever is injured southern red I thought I read that.

4.) 05 Sep 2019 07:19:44
I don't think Hoever qualifies for the B list. He has not been with the club for 2 years yet.



21 Aug 2019 23:20:19
Wow I did not truly understand the damage that they all did to the club! Such an insightful article as always thank you!

You mention a few deals in place that went wrong, Am I right in saying the likes or Ramos, villa, Silva were all close to joining until “something” went wrong!

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, but I didn't just want to write out a huge list of failed deals as it would have been even more depressing! I just tried to give an idea of how bad it was and why Rafa hated Parry so much.}

1.) 22 Aug 2019 05:00:42
Knowing some of the players we missed out on generally upsets me. Particularly Dani Alves. I think he would have been amazing for us.

{Ed001's Note - especially when you look at what we signed instead. Jermaine F'in Pennant!! Ugh.}

2.) 22 Aug 2019 08:15:50
We had a chance at Dani Alves (who every man and his dog knew would be a beast) and we screwed up and signed Jermaine Pennant? Yeah, and we wonder why we haven't won the PL in 30 years?

3.) 22 Aug 2019 10:50:47
Missing out on a Torres/ Villa partnership is the painful one for me.

4.) 22 Aug 2019 12:49:35
I think that the fact they didn’t sign Alves and bought 2 players instead, and followed that with “in hindsight. ” which is exactly what they said when they decided against buying quality over quantity a few years earlier just shows a real lack of learning lessons.

5.) 22 Aug 2019 10:19:54
Thanks Ed yes, perhaps the site would go into meltdown if you created a team of what we could of been with a decent owner/ CEO/ DOF.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure it would. Just knowing we missed out on David Silva alone is enough for me to want to cry.}

6.) 22 Aug 2019 13:23:35
was rafa trying to turn us into the spain national side?

7.) 22 Aug 2019 14:05:23
as the misses watches celebs go dating, i have had the mis-fortune of seeing bits of it. J Pennant is on it and comes across as a real bell end!

{Ed001's Note - he is a real bell unfortunately. Horrible little gimp.}




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28 Sep 2019 17:56:00
I also don’t know from a football perspective why we bought him on and not Kane, Chirivella should of left the club in the summer and not releasing him will block opportunities for others.

Lewis could of been given an opportunity in midfield base.

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12 Sep 2019 23:14:44
We might be looking for him to replace Chirivella.

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05 Sep 2019 18:15:34
ed your comment on "dependant on youngsters developing" i know it's been said that Klopp rates Nat Phillips, obviously had his bad injuries but does klopp still consider him part of the long term plans?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - I would think it depends how he gets on in Germany - but his age is against him.}



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04 Sep 2019 14:29:37
Mates with that robby buncan?

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28 Aug 2019 11:13:54
I think we are jumping the gun here!

He is contracted till 2022, and we must assume that Klopp Won’t leave until then, that is a LONG time, lots can change by then.

I am sure the club have plans, but let’s just enjoy our time with big Kloppo!

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16 Oct 2019 16:09:53
Let’s write him off! Should be in top form straight away, reckon get rid of him as deadwood.

Can’t believe he hasn’t scored 50 goals already terrible player.

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13 Oct 2019 12:28:35
Would love for us to look at the Norwich cb but don’t think he’d leave them!

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11 Oct 2019 20:45:31
Think you forgot to “end” that comment Ed.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - good point, so I did.}



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10 Oct 2019 15:06:19
So there’s a chance he will don the red kit of livepool!

I jest, I would love to see him in a Liverpool kit but I can’t see it happening.

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10 Oct 2019 10:08:22
You know why pundits say it, they want to create a story, tension and get their audience interested.

If they just say early days but lots to play for that wouldn’t be good tv.

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