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02 Jun 2024 10:57:58
Ed1, alright mate?

Outside of Mo, we seem to have an issues with players, who otherwise play really well, finding the net.

Do you think it's the skill level of the individuals, the pace we've played at (interesting to see what changes in end product, if Slot builds more slowly), being too furious to control the shots, or do we need a striker coach perhaps?

Or is it something else why we have scored 1 goal from 26 shots on some occasions?

Ta.

{Ed001's Note - it is most likely the coaching and tactics. Particularly the tactics as even good chances are not open goal shots very often. We had become so slow and ponderous in our build up and played without width, which allowed the opposition defence to hold their full team within the width of the penalty box. So we rarely got time to pick a spot, it was always snatched chances before the player was closed down or smacked from the edge of the box into a packed box.}

02 Jun 2024 11:36:32
I think it was said that this season was the 2nd highest season for goals for under Klopps reign.

I reckon it was probably our best season for goal return from our midfielders in about 20 years also.

I'll happily take a few more 1 nil wins next season over us scoring 2 or 3 and then conceding the same.

02 Jun 2024 11:49:04
Exactly, Ed01. One more thing and would like your take on this. IMO, we are guilty of "over-playing" in certain phases esp. in front of goal. In the UTD league game at OT, it looked like we were passing it too much rather than someone just take responsibility and fire the ball at goal. We kept looking for the exta pass and yet, we are all shocked the chance goes dead.

Biggest ex. was the 5 v 2 chance where Salah releases Diaz and for some stupid reason Diaz rather than fire it across a hapless Onana to prolly score (like he did vs Arsenal in the FA Cupp tie), he inexplicably passes ot to Darwin who is wide of the goal and can't score from there. he then tries to square it back to Szobo (mate, I couldn't believe my eyes) and the chance goes dead. There's a lot more examples where this came from.

Same happened vs Wolves. Quansah takes 3 touches on the ball before passing it to Elliott who croses for Macca to score. Why is Quansah taking that many touches on the ball before passing it? This is what does my head in with this wretched, slow possesion crap we plaed over the last 2/ 3 yrs. If anything at least, we don't have to do any of that again with Slot coming in.

{Ed001's Note - that is a big problem with playing controlled football - players are so drilled into keeping possession that they want the perfect chance before shooting. They know that a shot which doesn't go in is almost certainly going to turn over possession.}

02 Jun 2024 12:42:45
Against Utd, Palace, Everton we did create gilt edged chances with time And just the keeper to beat. Probably at least 10 easy chances missed in those 3 games alone.

02 Jun 2024 13:21:34
Sorry oli maybe I misunderstood you but slot will play even slower tempo more passing game but hopefully players will be better drilled, expect a lot of five yard passes which is interesting because then we take away Trent’s best feature attributes.

02 Jun 2024 13:45:49
I really look forward to what Arne Slot will do with the tactical setup.

I think this is a case of less is more.

02 Jun 2024 15:13:18
Ed01, I can definitely get that. It is instinctive at this point which clearly did not help. Hopefully, Slot can have an impact on this part of our game.

@Mark, indeed that is true BUT it is still part of the problem or should I say, related. If you are being drilled to play possession footie and always looking for the extra pass, you lack the killer instinct and aggressivity to take on the responsibility of scoring since you are drilled to look for the pass first even tho, you are in a good position to shoot and prolly score. That prolly affected us in the chances created in the games you mentioned, IMO.


@Colonel, now that I am not sure of since I've never seen Feyenoord play under Slot BUT what I have gathered about him is that tho, he likes his team to have the ball, he does not play possession system like we do. We shall see.

02 Jun 2024 15:21:15
Most of the time Diaz and Nunez can’t finish. Jota is never fit. Salah on the decline. Gakpo is mostly anonymous
They’re all good players, but I think one or two need to be sacrificed for a centre forward who scores goals.

02 Jun 2024 17:44:49
Real Madrid did just fine this season without a striker.

Dread to think what they will be like with Endrick and Mbappe!

02 Jun 2024 10:11:59
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02 Jun 2024 06:59:35
When is Slot going to speak to the media and more to the point, the fans?
Ed001 do you know if there is anything planned for this week?

{Ed001's Note - not a clue sorry. He has only just walked in the door and the season is finished, there is no rush mate.}

02 Jun 2024 09:51:07
All in good time, man.

02 Jun 2024 11:39:54
Just looking at Slot's upcoming first season its going to be a tough ask.

Half the squad are going to be away with the Euros and the Copa America so by the time they have their break they would have missed a large part of Slots pre season.

Then throw in we will be playing CL football next season. If you look at our Europa Line ups and then the league games straight after this previous season the Europa allowed us to rest players and give opportunities for others.

The CL will find us going as strong as possible in Europe and the weekend.

02 Jun 2024 14:22:05
@jk I am thinking the same, it’s going to be very tough for him and the coaches to implement their ideas on the first team squad.

If the players aren’t there, they can’t work with them.

Equally like you say when you’re playing twice a week there really is no time for “coaching” in between games as you recovering from one and then preparing for the next without time to work on much else!

02 Jun 2024 15:24:19
Couldn’t agree more JK. Tough season this. I think we
More quality now we’ve qualified for a proper European competition.

02 Jun 2024 18:28:39
I reckon he'll be just fine. Similar situation to many other managers. They're professionals for a reason.

01 Jun 2024 23:23:31
What you make on Summerville then Ed's is he any good or is he just a SMALLTOWN BOY

Or will he be one Leeds would NEVER SAY GOODBYE To?

{Ed025's Note - a bit one one trick pony for me Dhfc, they say he might put in a transfer request...but he wont leave them this way.. :)

02 Jun 2024 09:51:55
Ed25, Ed01 said the same thing and that he has attitude issues as well. If all of that is true then sorry, we can do a lot better.

{Ed025's Note - not a Liverpool type player for me Oli, flits in and out of games and for the money leeds would want i think there are better options out there mate..

02 Jun 2024 13:49:35
Summerville play primarily on the left and is right footed. What are we going to do with Diaz, Jota, Gakpo and Nunez if he is brought in?

{Ed002's Note - He would be a Diaz preplacement.}

02 Jun 2024 13:50:32
Think that post went over too many heads .
Hope we steer clear of little Jimmy if the attitude isn’t right . Not acceptable at the top tier of the game 👍🏻.

02 Jun 2024 10:47:48
Agree Ed25. Plus it feels like he is more of a risk or a project player with a big risk instead of a player that can contribute to a team aspiring to fight for the title. Which player do you think are better options for Liv Ed25?

{Ed025's Note - i like the look of Kudus mfahmee and even Bowen but his age is slightly against him mate..

02 Jun 2024 12:03:26
Then Ed25, we can move the heck on from this fellow. Peace.

{Ed025's Note - yeah Oli i dont think hes a good fit at all mate..