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12 Mar 2022 07:07:47
Anyone know why Virgil, Thiago and Konate missed training?

1.) 12 Mar 2022 09:32:01
Suspected C.V. as per Klopp.

2.) 12 Mar 2022 09:35:20
would it be C.V. cases?

21 Aug 2021 07:23:30
Ed's, has there been any interest in Danny Drinkwater?

{Ed001's Note - not from us, why would there be? He is crap and has addiction issues.}

1.) 21 Aug 2021 07:43:49
This must be a joke?!

2.) 21 Aug 2021 07:50:38
What about Ravel Morrison?

3.) 21 Aug 2021 08:06:40
Danny Drinkwater? Is it April 1st or something?

4.) 21 Aug 2021 07:31:26
Couldn't get a game for Burnley let alone us or Chelsea? What on earth?

5.) 21 Aug 2021 08:15:49
Oh man. Hope he gets over them.

6.) 21 Aug 2021 08:33:34
Did the OP have a very bad nightmare and is looking for validation?

7.) 21 Aug 2021 09:01:08
It was a joke off the back of ED002 reply yesterday.

8.) 21 Aug 2021 09:37:26
He is crap but hopefully he gets the help he needs for his addiction issues.

9.) 21 Aug 2021 10:20:02
Let's pick a random name just for the sake of it to p**s eds off.

10.) 21 Aug 2021 11:32:19
Maybe we could offer Naby plus a few mill.

11.) 21 Aug 2021 11:35:49
I’d imagine it was an attempt at humour after ed002 mentioned, just underneath, that they were surprised no fans have asked about his availability.

12.) 22 Aug 2021 07:12:13
For those desperate for us to sign someone. Let’s get him! Could turn out to be Hendo or Christian Poulsen. Roll the dice, splash the cash and see what happens 10 years from now. Whahahahhahaa.

13.) 22 Aug 2021 10:13:04
I got the joke OP. It was Ed2 who suggested we ask about Drinkwater haha. Don’t take everything so seriously guys!

30 Jul 2020 11:05:13
Hi Ed's,

We hear and see a bit about Sepp, but not much about Ki-Jana Hoever. Is he still showing potential and is he any closer to breaking through?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - He is young and well thought of - I suspect next season will be similar to this for him.}

1.) 30 Jul 2020 11:25:17
Thanks matey.

2.) 30 Jul 2020 15:01:14
Im hoping they are all coming back fit and firing from their time away from football.

A lot to prove for a number of youngsters, especially in this unique time where spending will be at a minimum, they need to grasp opportunities.

I think a dark horse we might see in pre season is Rhys Williams, I have high hopes for the kid!

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17 Jan 2023 07:28:58
I think within a year Gakpo will be playing as a midfielder, he looks perfect for it.

1.) 17 Jan 2023 08:07:28
He wouldn’t have much options anyways. He doesn’t seems to have the pace nor skills to displace Diaz on the left. Makes me wonder why did we not sign a proper midfielder to play in midfield.

2.) 17 Jan 2023 08:10:20
My heart tells me to trust Klopp.

But my trauma tells me: Ox contract renewal with a couple of 19 year olds from the Championship.

3.) 17 Jan 2023 08:24:22
@SaD, the answer is because we need a squad and it is, as a rule of thumb, desirable to have two players of roughly equal capability to push each other for the starting spot. It’s also a good idea to have a replacement ready if the first choice is injured (like Diaz is now) . It’s also good to have new blood to stop the indiscriminate slagging off of Ox and the kids …l.

4.) 17 Jan 2023 08:34:53
So Simple seems Gakpo isn't good enough to play upfront after less than two games with us and spaceman is suffering from midfield trauma? ?.

5.) 17 Jan 2023 08:42:50
Gakpo is no slouch and a very skilful player. 2 games and written off, is that a record for this site?! Jesus.

6.) 17 Jan 2023 09:16:14
To be fair Oraujo, that's twice as long as it took me to write Joe Cole off.

7.) 17 Jan 2023 09:26:54
Arthur Melo took 13 minutes - that must surely be a record.

8.) 17 Jan 2023 10:25:45
He won’t ever displace Diaz? That is some conviction for a player who is currently out with a serious knee injury.

9.) 17 Jan 2023 10:33:27
Gakpo was a strange signing when we are so weak in midfield. You have to feel for Carvalho as well. The Diaz injury should've been his cue to get some game time but he found himself dropped for Ox (despite a good game and goal against Man City in the league cup) and then Gakpo was signed which has effectively made it impossible for him to progress here as a player now. I think he'll have to leave on loan this month now. Even Doak seems to have moved ahead of him.

10.) 17 Jan 2023 10:51:53
Maybe Gakpo can cover the front three positions if one of them is injured, suspended or out of form, Simple.
Maybe one of them could cover him if he does displace one of them.
Saying that he won't ever displace Diaz is a bold statement. Diaz has a long, long way to go before being thought of as irreplaceable.

11.) 17 Jan 2023 11:06:11
To be fair WDW I don’t think it even took Victor that long ?.

12.) 17 Jan 2023 11:11:28
Carvalho was very effective for Fulham last year as a no 10 and even as a central midfielder. I won't claim to know more than coaching staff at any club, but for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with shoe-horning young/ small players on the wing. Always thought Foden was far more impactful in the middle of the pitch as well

I'd like to see what Carvalho could do RCM. We've tried everything else, and the fact he's right footed should give us a bit more balance than playing Harvey Elliott there. Will be less likely to get in the way of Trent/ Salah.

13.) 17 Jan 2023 12:51:42
Thom43, Carvalho is a number 10. that's where he should be playing.

14.) 17 Jan 2023 12:52:40
Swigbert17, Gapko will be a midfielder in a year? Based on all the games he's never played there? The guy is a left winger.

02 Sep 2022 07:16:46
Pretty disappointing transfer window in my opinion. We've essentially swapped Mane and Origi for Nunez and Nico for Ramsey, Minamino for Carvahlo and Woodburn/ Grujic for Melo. Whilst there are a couple of upgrades, it really feels like we've stood still. I don't normally criticise the squad (other than Ox), but think we've really missed a chance to kick on, especially with so many others strengthening significantly.

1.) 02 Sep 2022 07:33:36
Woodburn and Grujic? Scraping the bottom of the barrel there with that whining.

2.) 02 Sep 2022 07:34:18
Ok, where to start…

Neco Williams wasn’t even part of the squad last year so Ramsay is an extra body in a position we needed cover.

Luis Diaz was the Mane replacement and looks an extremely capable one at that.

Nunez replaced Origi who is not only a massive upgrade, but a starting 11 player.

Woodbury and Grujic haven’t played for lfc for a number of years and so haven’t been replaced. Arthur is an additional body to our CM options that we didn’t have last year. His stock is undecided but has potential to be great a really solid player for us.

I don’t see how we’ve stood still tbh, this year is always going to be transitionarybto a certain extent as the players who served us so well over the last 5 years begin to get phased out.

3.) 02 Sep 2022 07:41:28
Neco, Woodburn and Grujic weren’t a part of our squad,

4.) 02 Sep 2022 08:26:39
Someone online said Melo is going to be our version of Saul @ Chelsea. I hope they're wrong.

5.) 02 Sep 2022 08:35:23
Diaz was the Mane replacement. But let’s be honest they didn’t do to bad alongside each other for half a season. Would have been nice if Diaz was Manes team mate over replacement but in the clubs defence it sounded like it was Manes decision to leave.

However the window is done and so Is our business. The only way we will know if this window was a good one or an inadequate one will be once the season is done.

Under Klopp we’ve always had quality over quantity but I think last season we had both in

GK - I don’t think many clubs have better or equal 2nd and 3rd choice keepers as we have.

Defence - again the same applies to centre half’s. Our 5th choice centre half could start in a lot of other teams along with our 2nd choice Left back.

Attack - we had 7 attackers who could all score goals. 3 of those attackers would get into the best teams In the world whilst the other 4 the majority of the other teams.

This season (only my opinion) but we still have quality and quantity in GK and Defence (when they pull their fingers out at least) but possibly have less quality and quantity in attack.

But for me our midfield (not saying their bad) is quantity over quality still.

And before anyone bites my head off what I mean is we say we have 10 midfielders but if Ox, Milner or Naby start games we moan so that’s 3. It looks more like Carvalho is a forward so that’s 4, Morton’s gone on loan and the new loan signing we have in could work or could prove to have been a panic buy.

Massive game tomorrow in a derby and the 2 key points will be to get out of Goodson with 3 points and a healthy squad as we know they like to put their foot in against us. 2 seasons ago we lost 2 extremely key components at Goodison from ridiculous challenges so hopefully we come away with both.

6.) 02 Sep 2022 08:36:22
The standards we set in 19/ 20 were never seen before and will likely never be seen again. Not just premier league but all European leagues. 26 wins 1 draw before we lost to Watford if I remember right? We will have to accept that the only way from there is down. Mane had to be replaced because he wanted a new challenge.

Top 2 will still be Ourselves and Man City, we will still will the leauge if we make sure we win our head to head with City, that is my firm belief even after a really poor start.

7.) 02 Sep 2022 08:36:28
So you think nunez would of come in if mane hadn't of left? Nunez was manes replacement not origi's. You think fsg would of spent 85mill on a 4th choice attacker? Not a chance.
We've stood still because we all know the midfield was priority this season. Hence the fact the main target was touchami. Then mane wanted to leave so we bought nunez. Origi and minamino spots have gone to carvalho.
So technically we have what we had nothing more and maybe less.

8.) 02 Sep 2022 08:45:52
That's stretching that dhalsim from Street fighter would be proud of OP! Mane, minamino and origi were the only ones to really get any minutes last year, and as much as I'll forever love mane and Div, I'd happily take Diaz, Nunez, Carvalho and Arthur moving forward this year. Can see us going big next summer, but happy with the squad for this season once everyone is back and available.

9.) 02 Sep 2022 08:55:42
Oh wow, the cheek of it. Where to begin.

It was time for Mane to go, he had lost his pace and had become a large part of the reason we were going stale. We had to move him to centre forward just to get a tune out of him. The revisionism that everyone is engaging with every time we look rubbish is just absurd, as if having an ageing Mane on the pitch would fix any of our problems instead of exacerbating them. Now, we have one of the most promising young centre forwards in the world, something a lot of people had wanted for a long time. I don’t see how we could have replaced him any better, unless we’d bought Haaland, which was never going to happen. On top of that, we’ve already replaced his original position by buying Diaz 6 months early, who looks like the perfect replacement and a wonderful player who i’m sure, like Nunez, will be hitting Mane numbers very soon.

Anybody complaining about Neco being replaced by Ramsay should hang their heads in shame, as it’s mostly the people who gave him endless stick that are now moaning because he’s had a few good games for Forest. I always thought Neco had talent but he never fit into our side. He looks far more comfortable as a direct wing back than as a like for like Trent stand in, so the Forest side is set up for him to succeed. He also never really looked capable of dealing with the pressure of playing for Liverpool, and often played within himself despite having ability. The Forest move is perfect for him and i’m sure he’ll smash it, proving a lot of people wrong in the process. Of course, no doubt those same people will try and claim that it’s some kind of FSG conspiracy to weaken our squad and annoy Klopp, and that Neco’s greatness was so blindingly obvious that we should never have sold him. Ramsay looks like a great young player who we’ve signed for buttons, and I for one am very excited to see him play. Again, more revisionism just for the sake of moaning.

Minamino and Origi have left, and while I wish Klopp would have trusted them a bit more often, the fact is that he didn’t and that keeping them around would be pointless. Carvalho will get more minutes than both combined and once again looks like a wonderful young player, someone who we can throw straight into games for a huge impact at the tender age of 20, who i’m absolutely chuffed with. Just because he didn’t cost £80 million doesn’t mean he’s not a great signing or an upgrade; i’d much rather have him on the bench as opposed to gambling £80 million on Antony.

Don’t even know what to say about the last one. Arthur is replacing players who haven’t had a game in years? Wouldn’t him replacing the minutes of Keita/ Ox be a more appropriate comparison? Midfield is the only area we can upgrade at this point and while i am very angry at the clubs approach, given we may have been able to get a Laimer, Neves or Caicedo earlier in the window if we had recognised the need, Arthur is far from a bad punt in the meantime. We may be able to move for one of the aforementioned players in January, selecting which one we really want rather than panicking, while keeping our powder dry for Bellingham at the same time. The midfield does concern me but if it’s all in service of getting Bellingham then it is a logical sacrifice to make, he has Zidane levels of ability and I for one do not want us to to make the mistake Blackburn Rovers infamously made back in the day. I think Arthur might be better than most people give him credit for, he’s European footballs forgotten man and has suffered greatly due to factors out of his control. I kind of feel sorry for him and glad he will get to opportunity with us to put some respect on his name.

I fail to see how we haven’t strengthened, apart from in the midfield which, in fairness, we tried to strengthen but the targets we wanted were not available but were deemed worthy of waiting for. City effectively played all of last year without a striker so they could wait for Haaland when Kane wasn’t available, kind of like us with Tchouameni and Bellingham. They didn’t just make a signing like Haaland out of nowhere, it required patience and came at a cost.

Other than that, our squad is pretty much perfect on paper. The reason sides like Chelsea, United and Spurs are having to strengthen is because they have so many deficiencies, which we simply do not. We have two quality players for every position, apart from holding midfield, but maybe Arthur can now cover there.

We aren’t playing badly because we haven’t made enough signings, we are playing badly because established players have dropped their standards. These players are not going to be sold or replaced any time soon, and so it is up to the management to get a tune out of them again. Not every problem can be solved by transfers alone. I’m not happy with our situation, but i’m honest about why we are where we are. I’m not setting up strawmen to knock down just so I can have a moan about John Henry and FSG conspiracies.

Our transfer window has been fine, better than average I would say. The players should not be allowed to hide behind a shield of nonsensical criticism of the owners and the transfer policy.

10.) 02 Sep 2022 09:08:01
I really enjoyed watching Diaz, Mane and Salah together with Mane as the CF. Had Mane not left I think that's where he would have featured mostly instead of us moving for Nunez.

11.) 02 Sep 2022 09:29:32
Who would we sign that would make us really kick on?
We can all name players but could we afford them and were they available?
I'd have liked another couple of midfielders but the type of player I like, de Bruyne, were never going to happen. If we sign more depth and cover does that allow us to really kick on? Melo is not going to revitalise the team and win us the League but he might help us get through this difficult season as our midfield is looking fragile.
It's always more difficult to improve when you are at the top, especially on a more limited budget, so we might just have to be patient to improve and kick on.
Be patient.

12.) 02 Sep 2022 09:31:17
I love the Diaz, Nunez, Carvalho, Ramsey signings in the last 2 windows. So excited about the next team klopp is building. It's just going to take another window or 2. I'm hoping Arthur can take off, Thiago can get and stay fit and the rest of the midfield pick up their form and energy levels. It is better to wait for the top targets to become available Imo.

13.) 02 Sep 2022 09:51:59
Aw good read that mate. Only thing I would say is you’ve defended Neco more and told posters to hang their heads in shame whilst then being critical of Mane. A player who was absolutely world class for us and was one if not the first of Klopps signings which started our journey.

14.) 02 Sep 2022 10:20:03
the others who have strengthened significantly were sh*t beforehand.

15.) 02 Sep 2022 10:32:31
AA - good post that. I'm a bit concerned about Arthur though after what Suarez said about him, but will wait to see how he performs before drawing my own conclusions.

16.) 02 Sep 2022 10:41:57
I've no concerns about Arthur after what Messi said about him. Messi 100 times >>>> Suarez (the rat) so whatever Suarez (the rat) said about Arthur is irrelevant.

17.) 02 Sep 2022 10:53:03
Suarez said he doesn’t taste good and with the amount of people he’s bitten you’ve got to take Suarez’s word for it as he is the SME.

18.) 02 Sep 2022 11:22:48
Fair enough JK23 and OMM. Let's wait and see. Time will tell.

19.) 02 Sep 2022 13:29:29
Think it’s quite important to note those comments are one of the worst examples of fake news I’ve ever seen. They were in fact not said by the Suarez who used to play for us, but by the original Luis Suarez who played for Barcelona in the 50’s and 60’s. As we all know from experience with our own, ex players come out with some tosh, never mind one who is the same age as Ed025 and played football when the game was unrecognisable. Not to be ageist but you only need to look at Pele’s list of the 100 best players of all time to see how that can warp your perception of modern football; El Hadji Diouf was on it!

Also JK23, I was not being disrespectful to Mane. The man is a legend but his time had come, I think even he knew that himself. He left on a high and it was best for all parties. I say that people should hang their heads in shame because Neco took tonnes of abuse off people simply because he wasn’t the right fit for Liverpool. I think most could see he was a good player that just needed a move down to a smaller side to establish himself. For people to start pretending that they were banging the drum for him to stay is borderline disrespectful, when all they really want is to slag off FSG.

20.) 02 Sep 2022 14:01:43
Aw cheers for the reply mate. Good reply as well. I 100% get what you’re saying about Mane and truth be told I was probably being a bit pretentious I used the Neco example as I knew exactly what you meant and agree with.

Maybe I should have said I disagree with the part that Mane was a large part of the reason we were going stale. At left wing he was replaced by Diaz but in the striker role from Feb to the end of the season he outscore every forward in the league and was a massive part of why we still challenged for 4 trophies.

He was gone in the summer and in quite a few games this season we have looked extremely stale all over the park. So for me he cannot be a large part of the reason.

Only my opinion though mate. And nice to have a discussion with you over it.

21.) 02 Sep 2022 23:50:30
Seems the OP thinks we stood still prolly cos we did not sign who he wanted, forgetting that in the past three windows we have didn’t near 150m on transfers. Same old whine. Different day.

04 Apr 2022 11:52:29
It's a shame that one of salahs demands isn't that klopp signs an extension.

1.) 04 Apr 2022 13:09:29
By which I mean klopp should stay, just so there is no confusion!

2.) 04 Apr 2022 13:37:55
Good recovery mate👍.

3.) 04 Apr 2022 15:09:51
Hahaha, sweet one right there.

4.) 04 Apr 2022 16:31:01
Maybe it is.

25 Oct 2021 11:03:06
I see Coutinho is on 99 appearances at Barca. The last payment is based on 100, was that total appearances or in the league?

Is it likely they'll play him and pay or bench him do you think?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will not be getting any more money for Coutinho.}

1.) 25 Oct 2021 12:11:31
We sold any future payments off to a third party for a cheaper price to help relieve cash flow problems. All money for coutinho we will get has been received.

2.) 25 Oct 2021 12:49:47
Is there not a way to automatically delete any posts containing a combination of “Coutinho”, “money”, “appearances” and “payment”? It is tiresome as a reader, let alone having to edit and respond I imagine.

3.) 25 Oct 2021 13:04:30
To be fair, although we will not be getting any more money (for the reasons above) are we liable to penalties if all of the money is not collected by the third party from Barca? I’m sure Ed002 said that a few months back?

So we should be celebrating him reaching 100 games as that means we will not suffer a financial penalty…?

4.) 25 Oct 2021 13:47:36
Took me about 8 seconds to read the post and If I had chosen to scroll past then it would have taken about 1 second. I think people need to up their physical activity and get more vitamins in if that kind of effort is tiresome.

5.) 25 Oct 2021 14:50:23
Agree JK23. and to then go to the effort of replying to it as well.

Ricky Gervais and "I don't want guitar lessons" comes to mind.

27 Jul 2021 18:46:26
Anyone in the academy close to promotion into the first team Ed's?

{Ed002's Note - There is another step between the Academy and the first team they would need to take. A draw against Hartlepool in the League Cup may get a run out for two or three.}

1.) 27 Jul 2021 19:53:47
Yeah the U23s squad are all very young atm, but there's definitely some promising talent in the academy. You just have to look at the youngsters selected to go to the Austria camp with the senior squad, they were picked for a reason. Probably not ready for senior football this coming season, but GK: Pitaluga (18), H. Davies (17), DEF: Bradley (18), Beck (18), MID: Clarkson (19), Cain (19), Morton (18), FWD: Musialowski (17), Gordon (16) are the next to come through. Then there's a few stepping up from the U18s like Balagizi, Fraeundorf, Cannonier etc. But none ready for the senior squad. Hopefully Glatzel and the others will have a good season on loan. He's playing in a friendly vs Sunderland as I write this.

{Ed025's Note - great knowledge there JM, kudos mate..

2.) 27 Jul 2021 20:21:46
Why thank you very much, Ed025 mate. You're too kind. :)
I forgot Koumetio of course who's said himself he's learning loads and I've a good feeling Konate can be his Big Bro.
Layton Stewart's injury is tragic, James Norris is another promising left-back. We've some more high-caliber 16-17 year olds like Woltman, Mabaya, Bajcetic and of course Bobby Clark on his way in. But obviously it's very difficult to know how far young players will develop. I mean, we thought Ojo would be da bomb when we signed him for a cool two million back in 1976 while he was still nappies. ;)

{Ed025's Note - your very good JM, credit where its deserved mate..

3.) 27 Jul 2021 20:56:18
Fair play JM thank you very much mate, big respect there for the information 👍.

4.) 27 Jul 2021 21:24:27
Hopefully Musialowski gets a few minutes in one of the friendlies like Gordon, who's been very good. Was impressed with Frauendorf whenever i seen him last year, young Mabaya too.

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28 Jan 2023 10:31:19
I still think Gakpo would make a top drawer midfielder, he has every attribute and has played there for the Dutch in the past. Get Diaz, Jota, nunez all fit and firing with salah, that’s 4 to rotate with, rotate Bobby/ Elliott/ carvahlo/ Gakpo behind the forward line and fab/ hendo/ baj behind. Then I think we are just in major need of a dm rather than Bellingham, to replace Keita and ox.

Milner to cover every position on the pitch.

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15 Jan 2023 07:33:28
We’ve bought Diaz, Jota, Gakpo, Carvahlo, Nunez and Ramsey recently as well as a loan for Melo and new contract for Salah. Elliott and half a dozen others got injured and this season just hasn’t worked out for the likes of Fab, Thiago and VIrgil, all of whom were immense just a few months ago. Yes a couple of mids would help replace ox, Naby and Curtis, but folk need to get behind the team and stop slating them. FSG are the best non oil owners out there, and certainly the best we’ve had in decades. The grass isn’t always greener.

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13 Dec 2022 07:24:39
I think we could take on debt to cover the players, looking at the current position I think we could spend £250ish million and be ok with FFP. The owners may be looking to do that knowing the debt would be wiped out on a sale. Whether is the right thing for the club is another matter.

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09 Nov 2022 11:21:24
At least the owners would be Liverpool fans. That’s something I guess.

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01 Sep 2022 11:06:13
Arthur has been sidelined with 15 different injury complaints during his four years playing in Europe.

Should fit in well.

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01 Jul 2022 16:59:13
3 year contract.

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04 Apr 2022 13:09:29
By which I mean klopp should stay, just so there is no confusion!

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01 Sep 2021 07:16:31
Spend and net spend over the last 3 years

LFC 129, 46
MU 426, 336
MC 402, 250
CFC 365, 65

Chelsea have raised significant amounts from sales that have enabled them to invest and have a net spend similar to us. It’s a bit like when we had the pipco money.