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20 Apr 2024 21:34:39
I think the recent slump in form has been in part due to Klopp's tactics but also I wonder if the 'fairytale ending' has caused unnecessary pressure on the players. Couple this with the fact that some players are contemplating their future at LFC after Klopp's departure.
Also, the next manager has not been found/ wrapped up/ announced so wondering if also this is having an uncertain mindset psychological effect on some players wondering if they will be part of the next managers' plans. The uncertainty is creeping in and unsettling the squad which in turn is affecting their performances imho.
Of course much depends on how the team performs in the next '6 cup finals'.
We need FSG to quickly sort out the signing/ announcement of the next manager - ideally before the end of this month.
Thoughts?
1.) 21 Apr 2024 00:11:42
I think the team just ran out of steam and contrary to popular belief I think Gary neville is right and this team punched above their weight this season and that would be due to klopp.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 15:05:27
Gmil, I agree with you as well on this and other factors. As for Neville being right, not sure, man. The man talks so much, changes his opinion depending on where the wind is blowing so at some point, he's bound to get a few things right at some point, don't you think?
08 Apr 2024 16:25:14
If Man City are found guilty of some of the 115 offences, is it realistic that their past Premier League titles maybe stripped? - if so does that mean LFC will 'inherit' 2 PL titles as they finished runners up to them twice?
1.) 08 Apr 2024 16:55:49
No that won’t happen.
2.) 08 Apr 2024 17:00:38
Not a chance. It will probably go down as no one winning it for those years.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 17:15:34
£10 pound fine and told to sit on the naughty step which they will appeal and get awarded 3 free pens and 5 offside calls in any games they chose.
4.) 08 Apr 2024 17:40:12
Is there any update on the PGMOL gaslighting one of our fans?
5.) 08 Apr 2024 17:42:50
Anything less then all titles striped with a ban from Europe for as long as they have cheated is a farce, mite as well say cheating pays off in football if its less would also say jail time would happen in any other business but this is football.
6.) 08 Apr 2024 17:43:16
I hope not.
7.) 08 Apr 2024 18:08:18
———-please keep the ignorant bile to yourself————
8.) 08 Apr 2024 18:48:48
Noted. I’ll keep my opinion (ignorant bile) on the outcome of City’s charges to myself ?.
9.) 08 Apr 2024 19:18:26
If they are striped, which is my best guess based on the number of titles I wouldn't want them passed to us. I'd prefer they go down as no winner. Imagine getting 2 or 3 titles as the second placed team, it just wouldn't sit right imo.
10.) 08 Apr 2024 19:26:04
Nothing will happen. No point speculating. Cheats always prosper, fact of life. Move on.
11.) 08 Apr 2024 20:28:33
They’ll probably give them another title just for brown envelopes they’ve all had off them.
12.) 08 Apr 2024 20:36:15
By the time their hearing comes around, the PL clubs will have voted to remove the punishment of points deductions.
{Ed025's Note - spot on Paisley..
13.) 08 Apr 2024 20:59:47
They should probably be docked 2 points per charge = 230 points ?.
14.) 08 Apr 2024 21:13:21
What would be the benefit if they were stripped of their titles and the 2nd places teams retroactively declared the winner? It won't give us fans the experience of having won the two titles we were runner up for. Not really
Although it would make Ole Gunnar Solksjaer a league winning manager. Which is hilarious.
15.) 08 Apr 2024 21:14:33
Hope not Paisley, only real deterrent for cheats.
16.) 08 Apr 2024 21:42:37
And Brendan Rogers Sr.
If City don’t win the league this season I wouldn’t be surprised to see them docked like 20 points but they’ll likely have won the CL so will still qualify for it next season and finish like 8th as a punishment and that will be that.
17.) 08 Apr 2024 21:56:44
Relegation is the best outcome.
18.) 08 Apr 2024 22:16:12
Ron, I love that idea. If only mate.
19.) 08 Apr 2024 22:17:35
I actually would be totally fine with us being awarded them retroactively. If they cheated then them titles should have been ours.
I’m sure in the olympics when they find dopers the medal gets handed down to the next placed athlete? Or did I make that up?
In any case though, the titles are less of an issue for me, throw them straight out the football league altogether for me. ??.
20.) 08 Apr 2024 22:25:09
I can see a few more Brown envelopes.
21.) 08 Apr 2024 22:30:09
Spread the 230 points over the next 5 seasons.
Take 46 points off this season then start on -46 for each of the next 4 ?.
22.) 09 Apr 2024 03:56:49
Didn't think about that JK. Although as limited as I think BR is, Ole winning the league is funnier.
23.) 09 Apr 2024 08:34:28
Relegated two divisions abd stripped of the league titles they win would suit me.
24.) 09 Apr 2024 10:45:22
VictorVaughn is usually a bit too negative for me most of the time, but I'm with him on this one. Nothing of any consequence is going to happen to ManCity. At the most a slap on the hand; I even doubt any points deduction, let alone stripping of titles. The owners of ManCity cannot afford or tolerate the slightest mass public embarrasment of any kind, and neither can the FA or Premier League. They will work on it together to ensure minimal damage in the public's mind. It's a 115 count of offences, for God's sake. That's simply huge. I just have doubts anything big will stick on to ManCity.
Having said all that, I do hope they get what they deserve if they are found to be guilty of those offences.
It's all just very curious to me, because I am not from the football establishment and simply a distant observer. With offences dating back to the 21/ 22 season, Everton have swiftly been penalized with point deductions, twice, and have high chances of being relegated. ManCity with offences dating back t least a decade are still to face the music. Again, I don't know the exact reasons, but just imagine me sitting here with raised eyebrows and a smirk on my face.
{Ed001's Note - Everton's case was about submitted accounts wherein they admitted failing to adhere to ffp. Man City have been systematically covering up offences and submitting false accounts. Unlike Everton, they have lied about their guilt, when everyone knows they are guilty, but that requires it to be proven, rather than it just being a judgement required.}
25.) 09 Apr 2024 16:56:04
Yes we will be awarded any years we finished runners up and any matches we lost to City will become null and void and points added to any seasons total accordingly There will also be an open top bus parade through the city to celebrate these previous years titles.
26.) 09 Apr 2024 17:33:29
My understanding was they were already found guilty but the process took so long nothing can now be done. Hence they introduced a fast track system which is now being used to punish Everton, Forest and potentially Leicester? Might have that entirely wrong but I'm sure that's what some of the eds said.
27.) 09 Apr 2024 21:36:28
Wyred we wouldn't be a second place we would be champions because they should not of won the titles they aledgedly cheated i would take both titles with a blink of an eye mate and so would man u . So stop being so rightous mate.
08 Apr 2024 16:18:49
As frustrating as it was to drop 2 points against a team we should have won, we are still in the title race, very much so.
I think Arsenal will drop points in at least one game and even if City win all their games, we MUST win all our remaining 7 games - tough to do but I think we will do it - just. Regardless of yesterday and poor finishing plus mistakes, we are still playing exceptionally well.
At the beginning of the season, I would have bitten your hand off where we are now - 1 trophy in the bag and challenging for the title in probably the most exciting race for years. I would have settled for a trophy and top four this season (of course we did not know JK was leaving).
1.) 08 Apr 2024 16:44:40
BS (no pun intended, btw), that's the spirit, man. The Utd game hurts BUT it's gone now so no point being all sore about it. We have to look to the next game now vs Atalanta in the EL. Had we lost to Utd then for sure, that would have been severely damaging on a psychological level. City are still behind us and Arsenal are top on GD. Bro, it could have been worse if you look at things overall
After this week, all 3 clubs have their chances of winning the title intact rgardless and that is why the rescued point yesterday is that important, IMO.
The only thing we screwed up is that the margin for error we had has now gone with 7 games to play which I was hoping would be prolonged for longer. Alas, it did not happen. Now, it is time to act and get it done. Right now, it's win all 7 or bust. It is what it is.
@Davey Sulls, will you start the countdown?
2.) 08 Apr 2024 18:24:03
We are going to thrash someine 8-0 at home before the end of season.
So C. Palace odds is 150/ 1
Remember you heard it here first.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 19:01:20
Crazily we have scored the most goals this season out of any team in the top 5 leagues.
Yes a big factor of this is down to us scoring 28 goals in the Europa but we’re still 2nd top scorers in the league and have Salah who is 3rd top scorer and Nunez 12th, Jota 15th Diaz 23rd top scorers in the league.
Whilst missing chances seems to be out problem id say a bigger one is not keeping clean sheets. We don't have to score lots of goals past teams and 1 nil wins would still get us 3 points.
We've only managed to keep 9 clean sheets this season which is the same as Everton. If we shut up shop better then that will take the pressure off the forwards.
4.) 08 Apr 2024 19:27:52
Two things, I’ve stuck a fiver on us beating Palace 8-0 (what’s the worst that could happen? ) . Second, JK is 100% correct. Stop conceding sloppy goals, stop letting teams have a chance, then we give ourselves a chance.
5.) 08 Apr 2024 22:33:46
Agreed JK and VV.
Klopp’s philosophy is almost like NBA.
Throw men forward high risk high reward.
Bet on our defenders and keeper being able to keep them out.
It’s entertaining for sure, but I think it might soon have had its day.
6.) 09 Apr 2024 06:15:25
I agree, giving sloppy goals has been our issue. Keeping clean sheet will help us win games.
7.) 09 Apr 2024 09:13:19
Thats why I can't see us winning all our remaining games. Arsenal are far better defensively and more clinical then us. And City are just a crazy squad.
If we are talking about dropping points, only we look like the team that will
Arsenal are blasting teams away, and city will always get a result, into their usually strongest period of the year.
We however will always concede against anyone.
27 Mar 2024 23:54:37
As for our next manager, here's one from left field:
Zeljko Buvac?
Knows the club and Klopp's tactics but obviously not Klopp's personality.
Wild long shot of 100/ 1 odds
Xabi Alonso is 11/ 10 so by no means odds on although at the top of the list.
1.) 28 Mar 2024 00:30:47
It's not happening. Don't waste your money. It's clear since he left that he wasn't the "magic sauce. " I also personally think it's gross that he's decided to extend his contract in Russia post 2022.
2.) 28 Mar 2024 07:26:30
It’s crazy and a little sad to think that we only have 7 weeks left of Klopp at the helm.
I’d imagine lots is being done in the background but when realistically would be a good time to announce who the new manager is going to be.
Whilst Alonso is still in his title hunt I’d imagine his situation isn’t going to be addressed and I’d also imagine whilst we are still in ours I can’t see us announcing anything as when it is announced it’s going to be the talk of the town and could effect players and fans focus, especially if it isn’t Alonso and the name that is spoken causes a little unrest.
3.) 28 Mar 2024 10:55:09
Oh Bog Standard, you mean we should hire the original version of "Klopp was nothing without me" guy? Sorry, I'll pass. Besides, where has he been managing since Klopp decided to see other people? Exactly. Next.
4.) 28 Mar 2024 13:11:19
Yeah nah.
But also does anyone else remember back to when he left and there people on here worried about Klopp no longer having his brain lol
Incident remember posters on here criticising Klopp for playing heavy metal and reckless football in much the way some of our fans criticise Ange. And then when Buvac left it was almost like fan worry went into overdrive thinking Klopp’s brainless approach would mean players running their hamstrings in shreds ??? what a time.
5.) 28 Mar 2024 17:55:04
Faith, I criticise Ange Postecoglu because he’s a weapons grade hypocrite and faker than Katie Price’s norks.
6.) 28 Mar 2024 19:52:37
Yeah agree with all the comments. he is a million miles off. Forget him.
Uli Hoeness at Bayern has said they have virtually no chance of getting Alonso if Leverkusen win the title as will want to stay for another year. Maybe Alonso will join us in 2025?
Which leads me back to a rumour I submitted a couple of weeks ago but did not get posted (actually was said but again is a rumour) :
Friend of mine works in London in Corporate Finance for a financial institution. He was having after work drinks on a friday evening. His colleague who works in sports financing team (or something like that) told him that the club want Alonso as No.1 target and are prepared to wait 12 months to get him.
Word is that FSG have approached the agent an ex LFC manager who still lives in the area to sound out a 1 year contract on interim basis until Alonso takes over. He is happy to come back as he loves the club and wants to achieve success.
A certain Rafa Benitez.
Make of that what you will. Just passing it on.
7.) 28 Mar 2024 22:27:54
@Victor, spot on with Angie’s character imho. Good coach but he’s far too ‘blokey’ with his down-to-earth patter for me. Never struck me as being anything other than someone playing at being ‘one of the boys’ - same mould as Brendan R for me.
8.) 28 Mar 2024 21:53:03
Hell no to Rafa.
As much as I think he has picked his last few appointments disasterously which has seen his stock fall through the roof, I still think there's a decent manager in there. You don't just lose that brilliant tactical accumen and detailed football knowledge.
But Rafa can only take us one way and that's backwards. Going from Klopp to Rafa would be catastrophic for our squad when you think about playing style and man-management. You would be pouring oil over and setting light to a decade's worth of progress at the club.
I wanted Rafa to return back in 2012 but that ship's sailed now due to the course we've gone on as a club and the decisions he's made in his career. I think he would do well at a European-level Serie A or La Liga team if he was given time to build a team but he won't get that kind of project now and that's something he'll have to live with. His reputation is in shreds after picking terrible jobs in China, Everton and Celta Vigo where it was never going to work. Even the Newcastle job was a bad pick. It was a sinking ship that was never going to be saved that season. He started the season as manager of Real Madrid and ended it getting relegated to the Championship.
Pray Saudi offers you one last pay-day, Rafa. That's the best you'll get now. But I fear that even they might dismiss you as a has-been now.
9.) 28 Mar 2024 21:53:03
Hell no to Rafa.
As much as I think he has picked his last few appointments disasterously which has seen his stock fall through the roof, I still think there's a decent manager in there. You don't just lose that brilliant tactical accumen and detailed football knowledge.
But Rafa can only take us one way and that's backwards. Going from Klopp to Rafa would be catastrophic for our squad when you think about playing style and man-management. You would be pouring oil over and setting light to a decade's worth of progress at the club.
I wanted Rafa to return back in 2012 but that ship's sailed now due to the course we've gone on as a club and the decisions he's made in his career. I think he would do well at a European-level Serie A or La Liga team if he was given time to build a team but he won't get that kind of project now and that's something he'll have to live with. His reputation is in shreds after picking terrible jobs in China, Everton and Celta Vigo where it was never going to work. Even the Newcastle job was a bad pick. It was a sinking ship that was never going to be saved that season. He started the season as manager of Real Madrid and ended it getting relegated to the Championship.
Pray Saudi offers you one last pay-day, Rafa. That's the best you'll get now. But I fear that even they might dismiss you as a has-been now.
10.) 29 Mar 2024 08:10:48
Babbity any thoughts on Rafa mate?
Sorry couldn’t resist. Good post (s) though mate.
11.) 30 Mar 2024 08:38:29
No chance on Rafa Benitez.
The game has moved on and the club has moved on.
I wish him well, but he’s not coming to Anfield.
I’d also say interim managers are a bad move too.
What if Alonso bombs next season and gets BL relegated or gets sacked?
No thanks. Pick a manager to take the club forward.
{Ed002's Note - He is simply trolling the site.}
26 Jan 2024 12:28:50
Like everyone else I am absolutely gutted that Klopp is leaving.
Something does not make sense. Why start re-building Liverpool 2.0 when he knew he was going to be leaving. He told the club back in November which leads me to believe I think Jurgen is leaving due to health reasons. What they are is obviously private and personal. Possibly stress related? Football management is a very stressful job, and we remember what happened to Gerard Houllier (RIP) in 2001.
I say this because last season it seemed like Pep was managing the team more and it showed through tactics - Jurgen may have taken a back seat but quickly realised that he would have to take a more direct approach from this season onwards.
Rumours flying around that he is unhappy with FSG. I believe that to be a load of bull.
Maybe the Ed's or Macca can enlighten us if they have any info.
I wish him well for the future and will never forget what he has done for us. A very sad day.
1.) 26 Jan 2024 12:38:43
He did mention managing again (just not in England), so I'd suspect it's more to do with wanting to go out on a high, rather than health issues.
2.) 26 Jan 2024 12:43:11
I think we should take it at face value. Last season caught him off guard and took a lot out of him. He might've left then, but he felt a responsibility to get us back on track.
"For me it was super-, super-, super-important that I can help to bring this team back on to the rails. It was all I was thinking about. When I realised pretty early that happened, it’s a really good team with massive potential and a super age group, super characters and all that, then I could start thinking about myself again and that was the outcome. "
3.) 26 Jan 2024 12:49:59
I don’t think health issues will wait around until the last game in May.
If it is then the sporting director and all the back room staff might have the same issues as they are going as well.
Very strange time to announce but I’m sure more info will come out in the coming months.
4.) 26 Jan 2024 12:52:12
Tbf Ed002 told us for years that he wanted to get a rebuild substantially done before going. Maybe he looked as his all new midfield, coupled with replacing two of the front three and decided now was a good a time as he was going to get.
5.) 26 Jan 2024 13:02:05
The fact that the club have announced all the backroom staff and sporting director are leaving leads me to believe that new manager announcement is due imminently i. e. the deal has already been done and the new manager will bring his own backroom staff with him.
The club have had 2 months to secure a replacement and I believe FSH has already got their man hence Klopp's announcement this morning.
6.) 26 Jan 2024 13:19:15
If it's just health reasons which he said himself it wasn't and he's healthyo, why then does pep ljinders and several backroom staff leave also. Weird.
{Ed001's Note - why is that weird?}
7.) 26 Jan 2024 13:59:11
I suspect that Jurgen made his announcement today because FSG are approaching replacements and could not gaurantee that other clubs would maintain confidentiality.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of FSG approaching any replacements.}
8.) 26 Jan 2024 14:06:01
Magico, there is nothing weird about what he said. I think you are overthinking this esp. since Lijnders and the rest of the staff are off, as well.
9.) 26 Jan 2024 18:06:49
Ed02 - what’s your gut feeling on who will replace Klopp?
{Ed002's Note - Alonso or Ljinders perhaps.}
29 Mar 2024 05:18:00
Joachim Low is busy these days scratching his balls or arse and sniffing it.
21 Mar 2024 18:19:58
Nunez is more a 'battering ram' type of striker. His strength and ability to hold off other defenders whilst bringing in other players on i. e. Salah, Jota, Diaz. He mixes it with the defenders so that they draw onto him and allows others to score.
His scoring record recently has been fantastic. He is a real team player. He is unselfish.
He will get better and he is only 24.
What's not to like?
29 Feb 2024 14:32:05
Ah Yes good old TeamTalk. more like $hitetalk!
Weren't they on tv teletext in the 1990's which mouth watering tantalising headlines/ rumours (*cough* lies) about your club followed by that all important premium rate number of 60p a minute.
Utter garbage is Team Talk on a par with Duncan Oldham.
30 Jan 2024 01:06:23
Not one for speculation and rumours and BS, but apparently Alonso has NOT been appointed.
18 Aug 2023 13:08:31
Imagine Frode Kippers and ViktorVaughan in a room together having a discussion about LFC.
Oh what to be a fly on the wall. wait. it would be mentally draining and boring with all the negativity. rather watching paint dry on the walls.
11 Apr 2024 18:19:51
Ah yes. Paul Ince.
Still not forgiven Roy Evans for wasting £4 million quid on him.
Ged soon got the measure of him and booted him out to Middlesbrough for a cut price £1 million, I think just to make a point that he was not a valued top player like Ince thought himself as.
Apparently, Ince was a bad influence on the squad getting the spice boys into trouble.
He still talks codswallop, guess he has to earn a living.
28 Mar 2024 19:52:37
Yeah agree with all the comments. he is a million miles off. Forget him.
Uli Hoeness at Bayern has said they have virtually no chance of getting Alonso if Leverkusen win the title as will want to stay for another year. Maybe Alonso will join us in 2025?
Which leads me back to a rumour I submitted a couple of weeks ago but did not get posted (actually was said but again is a rumour) :
Friend of mine works in London in Corporate Finance for a financial institution. He was having after work drinks on a friday evening. His colleague who works in sports financing team (or something like that) told him that the club want Alonso as No.1 target and are prepared to wait 12 months to get him.
Word is that FSG have approached the agent an ex LFC manager who still lives in the area to sound out a 1 year contract on interim basis until Alonso takes over. He is happy to come back as he loves the club and wants to achieve success.
A certain Rafa Benitez.
Make of that what you will. Just passing it on.
26 Jan 2024 13:02:05
The fact that the club have announced all the backroom staff and sporting director are leaving leads me to believe that new manager announcement is due imminently i. e. the deal has already been done and the new manager will bring his own backroom staff with him.
The club have had 2 months to secure a replacement and I believe FSH has already got their man hence Klopp's announcement this morning.
15 Jul 2023 12:50:47
Cole came in under Hodgson. Shame really as I think he could have been a better player for us but he was in a poor team.