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09 Oct 2018 23:21:35
I don’t know whether this has been touched on before but has anyone else noticed how many chances we’ve conceded after Salah has lost possession?
I can think of 3 big chances off the top of my head, PSG 2nd goal, Hazard going clean through (Alisson saves) and City’s penalty on Sunday.
Any thoughts on why this is or is it purely coincidence? We give up so little chances these days that it just seems to stand out as a bit of a pattern emerging.
I’m not bashing Salah by the way I actually think he’s largely played well.

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1.) 10 Oct 2018 02:12:55
Rubbish, the chance against Chelsea was Salah conceding a free kick in the Chelsea half, it’s not his fault that the rest of the team switched off. For the City penalty Salah was tacked in the opposition half, that happens, it’s called football. The only error he has made is for the second PSG goal.


2.) 10 Oct 2018 04:21:48
For the City pen - in my book Fernandinho fouled him anyways so can’t put the blame at Salah’s feet.


3.) 10 Oct 2018 08:30:12
I knew this would happen. People are so precious.
I’m not blaming anyone I’m asking if he’s doing anything different. The Chelsea and City ones are because he’s got his back to goal when receiving the ball and the defender has managed to Nick the ball before him. This is happening a lot this season and I don’t remember it happening at all last season.
Just asking if people think he’s playing differently or is he being played differently?
Last season I’d have loved defenders to get tight as he’d just humiliate them. This season they are nicking the ball.


4.) 10 Oct 2018 10:27:00
Can’t believe even Bobby is getting sick for asking a question lol 😂 😂😂😂.


5.) 10 Oct 2018 12:11:52
The only things I can think of that he is doing different are:

1) not putting the ball in the back of the net
2) missing simple passes.

I don’t know the reason for it but he’s lucky to keep getting selected.


6.) 10 Oct 2018 19:49:42
OP, seems like you are looking for a scapegoat. Salah lost the ball vs PSG and the goal happened and that is it. Clearly, he is the only one that has ever done that before. How many back passes did Gerrard make that led to goals? Exactly. Please, let's not start singling him out for the reasons we concede (which are baseless) while also being the reason we don't score. That is just plain senselessness. We all want Salah to do well BUT sticking the boot in when he's down with baseless innuendo is appalling, IMO.


7.) 10 Oct 2018 19:51:38
Ron, There is nothing surprising about Salah being continuously selected. Salah keeps getting picked cos a) he has earned the right to play and for the manager and us to persevere with him in his difficult times. b) He is still getting into good positions, getting chances and still doing his defensive work hence, there is reason to persevere with him and c) We may not be winning a PL title w/ o Salah BUT we definitely will not be winning one W/ O him. He has the trust of the coaching staff and his team mates so expect him to keep getting selected PROVIDED he keeps doing the things I mentioned above. Again, Nothing surprising about that, bro.


8.) 10 Oct 2018 20:35:46
BRover you’ve completely misinterpreted what I said. I was not blaming him for anything just pointing out something I’ve noticed and asking for people’s thoughts.
No one is looking for a scapegoat, why would we need one? We are top of the bloody league!
Salah is a brilliant player I love the guy but he has been losing the ball particularly with a defender tight to his backside. Perhaps he’s worried about using that arm to hold them off?
Anyway it was certainly not an innuendo or criticism so get off your high horse mate.


9.) 10 Oct 2018 20:45:18
I said he is “lucky” to keep getting selected. He is living off last season’s remarkable form. I’m surprised Klopp doesn’t rest him, he’s not right and a title winning side has no place for passengers.


 

 

07 Oct 2018 23:46:14
I’ve seen some saying Hendo had a good game today and I agree, he was everywhere.
I was on the KOP though and he was getting absolutely slaughtered by some of the ‘fans’. Mainly towards the end when he decided to keep the ball rather than trying to pass forward when he had no pass on.
Would these people prefer him to try a pass that wasn’t on and allow us to be broken on in the last 5 minutes?
It’s like some just won’t change their minds about him and just look for reasons to have have a go.

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1.) 08 Oct 2018 02:52:36
Part of me thinks he would be more celebrated if he could not pass the ball. He would be seen as a very good defensive midfielder. He can pass though, people who accuse footballers of playing sideways are ignorant. Great player, we are lucky to have him.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 03:20:21
Well, the majority of us fans can't play football to save ourselves and then there's the noisy yobo portion of that group that can't see the game either. Allez allez allez!


3.) 08 Oct 2018 06:01:42
He is a very good passer of the ball. I'm a fan of Milner, but he sometimes tries a lofted ball to a player running in behind and often over hits it. That's not a criticism, but I notice that Hendo has a really good success rate with those types of balls. His weighting is often really good.


4.) 08 Oct 2018 07:20:56
Hendo did have a good game. he had perfect positioning.

This was a game tailormade for hin as we had to be wary of quick brdaks by City.


5.) 08 Oct 2018 11:09:49
But that’s what he’s good at Pankaj isn’t it? His anticipation of where to be is better than anyone else in the squad. If that had been Jorginho everyone would be raving about his performance.
On a side note it has been said that Chelsea’s midfield are better than ours and we don’t have goals in midfield etc.
I would imagine that our midfield won’t be far off Chelsea’s in terms of goals and assists come the end of the season. Jorginho, Kante and Kovacic are hardly prolific are they?


6.) 08 Oct 2018 11:30:54
Spot on, MM. The great (NOT) Pep Guardiola made a career out of passing sideways BUT hey, when he did it, it was called "keeping possession" BUT when Hendo does it, it's "passing sideways". The hypocrisy is deafening here. Hendo on his day when fit (like last night), is a beast in his no. 6 role.


7.) 08 Oct 2018 15:31:41
I'm not a fan and haven't been for a long time and I personally don't think that he is good enough for a title-challenging time. What really annoyed me yesterday was that with two minutes to play and all the players lined up for a cross he decided to pass the ball back towards towards Alisson. He is very good as slowing down any momentum.


8.) 09 Oct 2018 19:19:35
Mia from home or in the stands, if you were not on the pitch to see what options were there for Hendo to pass to of if there were any spaces or angles to play passes in then trust me, your post lacks any form of nuance and critical thinking.


 

 

24 Sep 2018 23:28:25
Ed1 i was away at the weekend so I’ve just seen Salah’s disallowed goal from Saturday and I can’t believe the hypocrisy from former referees, Dermot Gallagher in particular.
I remember when Kane was in an offside position last season and Lovren took a wild swipe and sliced the ball Dermot said that rendered him onside even though Alli had played the ball in his direction whilst he was in an offside position.
Salah was in an offside position when Milner shot but then it was cleared off the line then played into his path by a Southampton player yet Dermot says this is an unbelievable spot from the linesman.
Tell me, am I not getting something here or these two incidents fairly similar with the one at the weekend being even more onside than the Kane one?
I’m not crying conspiracy I just get wound up by these blatant inconsistencies and the cover ups that follow in the media 😡.

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{Ed001's Note - refs will always stick together. They made up a completely false interpretation to cover up a mistake. They continue to do that every time a ref messes up. It is why refs are so poor, the PGMOL just lies and pretends they got everything right, so how can they expect to improve?}


1.) 25 Sep 2018 07:11:45
Ed1 - sorry if I missed this. Completely ignorant on the rules of the game, was Salah's goal at the weekend actually legal?

{Ed001's Note - depends on how the ref feels on the day apparently. Strictly speaking no, but they have come out and said that a touch off a defender would change the usual interpretation to make Salah onside. So, according to the interpretation the PGMOL have publicly stated they are using, yes he was onside. Even though they have not stuck by that interpretation in most matches since saying it.}


2.) 25 Sep 2018 07:16:26
I think it is because he had left the pitch and that somehow changes the decision.


3.) 25 Sep 2018 09:21:49
Correct AggerDo 🤝.


4.) 25 Sep 2018 09:45:06
Despite the ricochet after the shot from Milner. It is still the same phase of play. Thus Salah gained an advantage ending up where he was when the ball finally got there.
The Harry Kane decision was purely and utterly wrong in every sense of the laws of the game. The jumped up assistant telling John moss the rules haunts me as a fellow referee, especially as the assistant was wrong!
An whilst we are at it, and I’ve been doing my laws of the game questions ( I’ve a big test coming up ) benzemas goal in the final should never have counted.


5.) 25 Sep 2018 08:35:11
That’s how it seems to me Ed.
The way they explained the Kane one was because it touched Lovren it started a new phase of play so it rendered him onside.
The Salah one actually came off 2 Southampton players before falling to Salah’s feet so surely that renders him onside?
When it touched the 2nd player (who actually played it into his path to stop a Liverpool player getting the ball) he was back on the field so I just can’t see how that can be offside based their own rules.
Silly thing is we all know the Kane one was offside and I said at the time they are just opening a can of worms by trying to cover up for the hapless John Moss and his even more hapless linesman.
I don’t mind officials making a few mistakes but what comes out afterwards just stinks.

{Ed001's Note - spot on mate. It is just their sheer arrogant refusal to just admit that officials make mistakes.}


6.) 25 Sep 2018 10:50:16
Is that because he “challenged” Karius as he was clearing the ball Benny? He actually moved his leg in the direction of the keeper and “impeded” the clearance?


7.) 25 Sep 2018 12:06:12
Basically, the mistake was with the Kane goal not this weekend. But I've seen at least 20 goals ruled out identical to Kanes (not all us obviously) and there is never a suggestion that they made the wrong call so, as Ed001 says, the Kane call was just wrong and the justification was also just wrong.


8.) 25 Sep 2018 14:10:28
Benny and Ron - I thought the ball is "in play" the moment the ball leaves the GK's hands or foot? We've seen instances where a GK kicks the ball right onto a forward's outstretched foot and the ball goes trickling back into the net. Benzema was easily 4-5 feet away from Karius so I don't know if you can argue that Benzema was impeding the GK?


9.) 25 Sep 2018 18:00:36
Hijkle I think you are correct and Salah’s goal shouldn’t have stood but that Kane offside and the attempts to justify the decision still infuriate me even today.
They start talking about phases of play in an attempt to confuse people when really they should be asking ‘was Kane interfering with play from an offside position? ’
Yes he was, if he hadn’t been there Lovren wouldn’t have needed to attempt to clear the ball!
Also ‘did Kane gain an advantage from being in an offside position? ’ Yes he quite clearly did!
If it’s a cock up then just admit it’s a cock up rather than trying to make things up and quote rules that simply don’t apply in that circumstance.
Don’t even get me started on the Mane sending off either! I’ve lost count of how many players have ‘endangered an opponent’ by raising their boot to head height but I’ve yet to see anyone else sent off for it. He was sent off for injury to the keeper not the action itself which is just ludicrous!
Anyway I’ll stop ranting I can feel my heart rate starting to increase to dangerous levels :-D.

{Ed025's Note - poor old liverpool do get picked on bobby, no other team get bad decisions against them do they?, niasse got sent off for a lot less than what mane did but of course that does not count, i have it on good authority that all other clubs meet once a month with the referees in secret and discuss how to stiff liverpool, i think you should contact your MP or write to the court of european justice because this outrage has to be stopped!, i propose a day of national mourning for liverpool fans to reflect on how they get shat on from a great height , bloody disgrace it is mate..


10.) 25 Sep 2018 18:40:04
Thanks Ed I knew you would understand ;-)

{Ed025's Note - i understand only too well bobby mate.. :)


11.) 25 Sep 2018 22:56:20
Pity your lot are getting sent off to save their embarrassments ed25 😉.

{Ed025's Note - the 2 sendings off have been very harsh to be fair p1, we could cry and whinge that the world are all against us like some other club i could mention mate, but we are everton and take it on the chin like men.. :)


12.) 25 Sep 2018 23:48:17
If I was forced to wear that blue thing every week I think I’d pray for a sending off too!


 

 

11 Aug 2018 18:19:35
Everton imploding. Some things never change 😂.

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1.) 11 Aug 2018 18:23:16
haha to be fair they have been the better team in that first half.

Just one mistake, least they've got two new cbs waiting to come in to replace jags.

Great freekick by neves.


2.) 11 Aug 2018 18:30:20
Pickford should save it. His side and he seems to dive too early and go under it. Similar to the goal he conceded against Belgium in the World Cup. His dive was just all wrong.

{Ed025's Note - not the dive bobby, but the step to his right done it for him mate..


3.) 11 Aug 2018 18:35:25
Perhaps. I still think even with that he should save it. It wasn’t right in the corner or hit with great pace. He got there but seemed to be on the way down when he got his hand to it and so couldn’t push it out.


4.) 11 Aug 2018 18:36:36
I get what you mean though Ed if he’d stood stil he could’ve almost just stuck his left arm and caught it.

{Ed025's Note - exactly bobby..


5.) 11 Aug 2018 18:40:57
Thanks Jags, 34 points in my dream team already and Bobby, Mo, Alison, Silva and Arnautovic all still to play 😅.


6.) 11 Aug 2018 18:43:58
Really happy to hear Neves scored, the lad is something different and only at that age? what a player they have.


7.) 11 Aug 2018 18:45:00
Pickford been poor today has to be said, don't think one of his kicks has found a blue shirt yet.


8.) 11 Aug 2018 18:46:46
I just hope I haven’t spoke too soon and you don’t go and win it with 10 men! I’d never hear the end of it!


9.) 11 Aug 2018 19:02:49
You've only gone and bloody jinxed it bb lol, nice one mate ;) . Not over till it's over though I suppose.


10.) 11 Aug 2018 18:53:28
I thought Everton were a free one at the price with 11 men. Stuck them in a double with Leeds. Hope that tube Jakielka hasn't blown it for me.


11.) 11 Aug 2018 19:48:15
Richarlison maybe proving a few that the price wasn’t too bad, honestly think he would do well under silva again and with a little more experience! Get Walcott and Jagielka our that team and you’ll be okay ed!

{Ed025's Note - i thought theo done well actually firmane, but we have bernard and gomez to come in yet so the dynamic might change, very happy with richarlison though mate..


12.) 11 Aug 2018 20:50:19
Sorry Salah! I’ll keep my big mouth shut in future. At least they didn’t win though ;-)


13.) 11 Aug 2018 20:53:14
Yep, good player richarlison. Couldn't wait to leave watford. Deeney didn't like him taking the limelight. He said in training that "they try to kill me"

I m glad he's out of there and back with Silva. Everton a good place for him. A big club with ambition. Good luck to him and good luck to everton.


14.) 11 Aug 2018 21:30:09
True bb, we have to be thankful mate :) .

Agreed robbie, I think he'll do really well at Everton.


15.) 12 Aug 2018 09:35:18
To be fair Everton look like they could do well. Top 8 I’d say but much more competitive than they have been.
With that team they had out last night they would struggle a bit, you can’t always rely on one person to dig you out of a hole but with Bernard and Gomez to come in and Zouma and Mina a lot will depend on how they settle.
I also think there’s a huge question mark over the manager. Any manager who let's his team and club down as badly as he did to Watford is a worry for me.

{Ed025's Note - we dont know really what went on at watford bobby so for me he comes with a clean slate mate..


 

 

08 Aug 2018 23:22:27
Anyone else happy Alisson is not the most expensive keeper in history anymore? Let that pressure be on some kid I’ve never heard of I say!
Good luck Chelsea I can see this one going horribly wrong.

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{Ed018's Note - not sure why it would go horribly wrong. The kid is good}


1.) 09 Aug 2018 00:05:32
I am just glad that the Chelsea fans can no longer slag us off for signing a goalkeeper for way much money.

{Ed018's Note - I’ll never understand why supporters care about the money spent on players. It’s not their money. Who cares}


2.) 09 Aug 2018 00:20:30
Am glad it has taken the focus off Alisson a bit. But am sure that the lad Kepa is a talented gk and will be a very good gk for Chelsea. Just hopefully not as good as Alisson will be.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 00:49:25
I reckon alisson might be a bit gutted about it. Not a lot. But "the world's most expensive keeper" does have a nice ring to it.

Thing is, Alisson doesn't need to prove himself, everyone knows he is a great goal keeper. A Brazilian international. First team.

This other lad, I've never heard of him.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 01:53:33
Robbie mate everyone doesn’t know he’s a great keeper any more than the new Chelsea lad. Do I think Chelsea overpaid? Absolutely, but I think we can’t be calling out anyone for that.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 02:21:07
I've heard of Kepa. Kepa tea? . all bad jokes aside he is young and quality I know Madrid were interested but for that fee it's a huge risk for someone who hasn't got a chance of dethroning DeGea.


6.) 09 Aug 2018 09:17:40
Ed018 - they care because it's another reason to slag other teams off (or their own players of course), which since 2006 (the launch of twitter) has become an increasingly important part of football, music, politics, art, science, parenting and just about everything else in life.

{Ed018's Note - i agree with you there.}


 

 

 

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30 Sep 2018 19:37:35
He’s a guy that’s gone from 0 to 100 in one season. When we signed him everyone, including our own fans ere underwhelmed and not much was expected of him. He has that season and now everyone wants a piece of him.
The stuff with the EFA hasn’t helped but neither has the amount of awards ceremonies and individual accolades he’s won. He seems to be at a different awards night every week.
Nobody from Egypt has ever been under this much scrutiny so I would imagine it’s a bit of a culture shock to him it’s just not normal for so much to be expected of an Egyptian footballer.
I’m sure once things calm down a bit he’ll be able to get his head back in the game he’s been caught in a bit of a whirlwind over the past few months.

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26 Sep 2018 18:21:12
So he’s not coming then Ed? Funny, I was just in Blackpool having a bacon sarnie on the seafront and. well you know the rest ;)

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12 Sep 2018 13:59:30
Who’s the player they want Ed? Alonso by any chance?

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14 Aug 2018 22:22:12
But why did the ref stop the game at that point? In his defence I suppose when they made the rule about stopping the game for head injuries they didn’t say which head!

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10 Aug 2018 23:52:13
Firmane I think we should trust the club to know what’s best and if they want the price they want there’s obviously a reason for that.
Don’t worry about the players they are being paid more than handsomely for what they do, or don’t do.

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14 Oct 2018 10:36:50
I agree with all of that BRover apart from the loving the international football bit. It’s ruined my whole weekend.

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14 Oct 2018 10:36:50
I agree with all of that BRover apart from the loving the international football bit. It’s ruined my whole weekend.

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12 Oct 2018 22:56:49
They’re saying it’s not serious but let’s just get him home.

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12 Oct 2018 13:31:48
Good post BRover it’s pretty much how I feel about us every season but this season in particular.
There are a few things not quite clicking this season Salah, the front 3, goals from midfield etc. but we are still top and looking like a formidable outfit.
Imagine what we’ll do when it does click we’ll be unstoppable.
I think it’s interesting what Ed1 said about us maybe playing within ourselves early on as the sports science guys have detected burnout towards the end of the season. If that’s the case I can’t wait for Klopp to take the shackles off we are in for one hell of a ride!

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10 Oct 2018 20:35:46
BRover you’ve completely misinterpreted what I said. I was not blaming him for anything just pointing out something I’ve noticed and asking for people’s thoughts.
No one is looking for a scapegoat, why would we need one? We are top of the bloody league!
Salah is a brilliant player I love the guy but he has been losing the ball particularly with a defender tight to his backside. Perhaps he’s worried about using that arm to hold them off?
Anyway it was certainly not an innuendo or criticism so get off your high horse mate.

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