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27 Sep 2017 14:32:46

So it looks like Ancelloti will be leaving Bayern at the end of the season.

I remember you mentioning something about Klopp wanting to manage Bayern or vica versa.

Do you think there will be an approach from Bayern for Klopp if Ancelloti does leave?



{Ed002's Note - Yes it is on the cards that CA will be leaving a year early and Bayern are indeed considering their options. Whilst Klopp did want the job this will not be good timing and will be a year ahead of previous thoughts. Right now I would not expect an approach.}

1.) 27 Sep 2017 16:25:33
Then maybe we can have a exchange with Bayern.

2.) 27 Sep 2017 19:25:59
Klopp's profile has taken a serious beating and will not be on top 3 of BM radar.

They will be looking at Hoffenheim mgr and others.

3.) 28 Sep 2017 02:42:33

Klopp's profile has "taken a serious beating"?

How exactly? Took a struggling side from 8th to 4th, plays exciting creative football. We've had some struggles recently, but any idea his stock has thus fallen seems petty and silly.

4.) 28 Sep 2017 07:12:20
Klopp can't seem to set up a defence so his rep has been hit surely. The UK media have fallen out of love with him as have some fans.

Hope he stays though.

5.) 28 Sep 2017 14:22:40
Ancellotti has just been sacked!

6.) 28 Sep 2017 14:35:21
Before I say, I just want to clarify before anyone has a go at me I do not want Klopp to leave or am I trying to slate our Manager. Ed01 in the unlikely event Klopp goes to Bayern who realistically would you have to replace him at the club? Asking really to get your thoughts on Managers you think highly of after your recent article about overrated managers.

{Ed001's Note - I honestly cannot think of a realistic choice.}

7.) 28 Sep 2017 15:00:54
Rafa Benitez? Would jump at the chance to return to the club, and he would bloody do something about our awful defense.
And before people jump on my back, I want to clarify I do not want Klopp to leave. BUt its inevitable he will leave at some point for Bayern, so we need to be prepared for that.

8.) 28 Sep 2017 15:25:55
Good Shout Buzzer can't think of any other option apart from him to be honest. Matter of time before he falls out with Ashley at Newcastle so I agree a reckon he would definitely be up for a return to us.

9.) 28 Sep 2017 15:43:19
As our Sporting director is lacking in experience, I'd replace Klopp with a more experienced manager. They could also then act as a mentor for Pepjin Lijnders.

Someone who is exceptional at the job, a seasoned veteran, but relatively realistic; like Jorge Jesus, Mauricio Sarri or Carlo Ancelotti.

I'd love Allegri or Simeone but they are not going to leave the clubs they are at, for Liverpool mid season.

{Ed002's Note - Super Stevie Nicol is available.}

10.) 28 Sep 2017 15:56:48
No thanks 002! Nicol was a great player, but he is a little bit of a mouth piece nowadays! Haha. He has been publically scratching towards a fair few current players as well!

{Ed002's Note - You don't think a dream team of SSN and SSG would work then?}

11.) 28 Sep 2017 16:31:22
Can i gouge my eyes out instead?

12.) 28 Sep 2017 17:08:22
Tom werner says our new sporting director is world class . After his first summer in charge of transfers world class at what?

13.) 28 Sep 2017 18:18:24
Ancelloti was my first choice over Klopp, would be interesting to see what team would be had CA been appointed.

{Ed025's Note - a boring one..

14.) 28 Sep 2017 19:08:00
Klopp can set up a defence, he's done it before. Lack of transfers is our undoing as it has been for years. Way before he came.

15.) 28 Sep 2017 19:23:22
IF and that's a big if klopp leaves id like the german coach lowe, id love poch tbh rbl manager or go big for simeone.

16.) 28 Sep 2017 23:10:38
Silva from Watford anyone?

17.) 29 Sep 2017 01:12:36
Leonardo Jardim?

18.) 29 Sep 2017 00:00:47
Disappointed in Klopp. Going to Bayern from Dortmund seems like such a betrayal, same as all those players who moved. Don't know how others see it, especially German fans? Maybe it's expected?

Also feel like the "if I only coach three clubs. " speech last year was a load of horsesh1t.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? He has gone nowhere yet.}

19.) 29 Sep 2017 08:05:49
Unbelievable. Ancelotti gets sacked and Robboz has already pegged Klopp as Bayern's new manager.

20.) 29 Sep 2017 08:14:37
From what I've read here, it sounds like it's only a matter of time.

Okay, I will reserve my disappointment until he does.

21.) 29 Sep 2017 13:31:59
If Klopp does get sacked there's this young Northern Irish managed in Scotland at the moment doing well

Brodgers or something like that.

He might be worth a shout.

{Ed025's Note - i could manage celtic and win that league dawn..

22.) 29 Sep 2017 14:14:09
That was a joke btw. didn't think i had to qualify that.

{Ed025's Note - i did get that mate..

23.) 29 Sep 2017 14:29:10
Maybe we could go for Koeman once he gets removed.

Sorry Ed25, could resist 😜😜.

{Ed025's Note - im better than him i can assure you drogie..

24.) 29 Sep 2017 15:55:26
Got his initial team selection wrong last night mate. IMO.

{Ed025's Note - every week for me drogie mate, playing rooney is his main flaw..

25.) 29 Sep 2017 23:09:52
Seriously discussing klopp replacement? Whilst he has many failings he is surely the best option at this time.

If he can sort the defence out then who knows how far he can take us.

26.) 30 Sep 2017 23:11:44
Flash, are you dim?

Read Ed2's response to the first post in this thread.

Apparently Klopp wanted the Bayern job, although at this point it is a year ahead of what the previously thought timescale might have been. This sounds to me like Klopp may be off after next season, or thereabouts.

The haters can give this a thumbs down all they want but it's there for all to see.

27.) 01 Oct 2017 15:56:13
XABI wants to manage! ! :-)

28.) 01 Oct 2017 16:22:00
I think you meant signing Rooney ed025.

29.) 03 Oct 2017 00:17:25
This is about the only statement that Ed002 has made about Klopp that I genuinely can't see. Especially when he does things like this. It's just my opinion of course.




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15 Feb 2018 19:53:33
Showing my age a bit here boys but thought of a light hearted song for the kop driving over the the Manchester office this minding. regarding our front 3.To the song, Sugar sugar by the Archies. Most will need to google it 😜

🎶Oh Salah De de de de de
O oooh Mané Mané De De De De De
Bobby Firniniooooooo

Our fab front three, were're running the show.

Oh Salah De De De De
O oooh Mané Mané De De De De
Our fab front three, we're running the show 🎶

Not sure I'll be standing up and trying to get this song going at the next home game. I'll probably have my season ticket ticket off me 😂.


{Ed025's Note - that has already been done drogie, it was on soccer am and all over the net mate...your later than a VVD tackle im afraid..

1.) 15 Feb 2018 20:20:42
Ed25.You’ve just ruined my evening.

Was driving on the M62 this morning, the song came on and the words just flowed 😂😂😂😂

Don’t wet him soccer am, too busy playing trains with my 4 year old lad!

{Ed025's Note - sorry drogie but i had to tell you mate, and please dont make any songs up to the tune of...."the fields of anthenry, thats been done as well.. :)

2.) 15 Feb 2018 20:32:48
ED I think you have a typo, michael keane came out as VVD

Drogie, you are definitely not corks biggest liverpool fan!

3.) 15 Feb 2018 20:50:32
The thing is, we sing the “Mane Mane” bit in the kop, is just not heard the rest re Salah and bobby.

Ah well.

4.) 15 Feb 2018 23:44:52
Let it go lad 🙈.



10 Feb 2018 10:40:36
Morning Ed001.

Thought we really started to look jaded during the 2nd half against Spurs, thought they took advantage of this by stretching the play.

Do you you think Klopp will make changes against Saints, with Porto in mind on Wednesday?

With 12 games to go and CL games this will be a real test of how strong we are in the run in.


{Ed001's Note - I don't think we were jaded, we came out deeper, so it couldn't have been that. It was a tactical change that just led to us getting overrun and the player's were struggling to cope.}

1.) 10 Feb 2018 11:12:37
I always try and guess the starting line up using the Friday training photo's to help.

Total guess work but Ben Woodburn looked to be wearing the same coloured bib as all the players you'd expect to start (Firmino, Salah, Mane etc) .

2.) 10 Feb 2018 11:15:26
I saw it as such, as well Ed. It may not had been the best tactic and indeed, all tactics are gambles in the end, IMO. It did work by and large, IMO until as they created next to no clear chances (3 shots on target in 95 mins says it all) until their first goal happened and then the refs stepped in it.

3.) 10 Feb 2018 11:24:09
You may be right, MK.

4.) 10 Feb 2018 11:24:14
Interesting that mk, would possibly see him play in the midfield 3? I wouldn't be mad seeing him get a chance to be the creative force from there in this game, would be great opportunity for him!

5.) 10 Feb 2018 12:18:00
We are an extremely fit and mobile team and so are Spurs. I think we out ran spurs in the first half and then blew out of steam. Spurs were at sixes and sevens in the first half with our pressing. Second half the lads couldn't keep up the intensity which can be expected and this allowed Spurs to srretch us.

{Ed001's Note - but they didn't even try and press in the 2nd half, so it can't be about running out of steam immediately. It was a tactical change. It is not even difficult to see, the team set up differently, players deeper which makes it impossible to press.}

6.) 10 Feb 2018 12:20:20
Would love to see the lad get a chance, just hope fans don't turn on him for not being ready made from the get go.

7.) 10 Feb 2018 12:22:14
Lallana and Moreno also seemed to be in the hi-vis yellow bibs that Woodburn, Salah, Firmino and Mane were wearing.

100% guessing though lads. I would love to see Woodburn get a start though.

8.) 10 Feb 2018 12:41:41
Saw and thought the same thing MK!

Would be very surprised to see him though, he hasn't even made the bench in recent weeks.

Fingers crossed though.

9.) 11 Feb 2018 11:35:03
Agree completely that we just changed focus and tactics in 2nd half. My worry is that with the likes of Hendo, Can, Gini, Ox, and Milner, none of them are naturally defensive minded mids. I don't mean a CDM, just that their natural styles are dynamic box to box types ye. So when we try to play deep like we did vs spurs or in other cases when we try and contain a game, we are fighting against our own players natural instincts!

Case in point being the number of times we've seen Milner, Can and even Hendo fly up to press only to get turned so easily leaving our defence exposed. We just don't seem to have a CM who will sit Marshall his CM partnered and keep the ball in front of them. Our midfield is like turnstiles all game! Its not been a new thing too, we were like this under BR and definitely in Klopp's first 3/ 4 season in charge. I thought we had turned a lead around a 1/ 4 way thru this season where we seemed to play controlled but then we've reverted back to type.

My point is, and as mentioned by others, sorting out our midfield is as important to address this off-season. We've almost specialised in turning attacking mids into roles that require more specific defensive duties. Long term I think we will always battle this same problem until we recruit CMs who have a natural eye for the defensive side of the game. doesn't need to be CDM just someone who can apply the tactics of that deeper CM position.

Always wanted Ndidi, but don't know if we are interested in him. In any case I hope we address is it, I think it will really help Hendo, can (if he stays), Gini etc to play their natural games and hopefully improve their performances too.



29 Jan 2018 18:54:21
Evening all.

Ed001, with the Studge loan looking likely, do you think we'll see a bit more of Solanke and or even Young Woodburn for a few games?



{Ed001's Note - Studge was gone anyway, Ings has already replaced him in the squad. Not sure why it would make a difference if he goes on loan.}

1.) 29 Jan 2018 19:10:58
Sturridge going on loan is not going to change anything as he was not in Klopp's plans and was struggling for playing time. Ings and Solanke will be back up with Mane, Firmino and Salah our first choice front three.

Woodburn is far from ready and way down the pecking order behind Solanke and Ings.

2.) 29 Jan 2018 19:15:56
Fair enough, not really been keeping up with what’s happening with Studge, just read tonight WBA is liking the likely destination.

Hopefully Ings can can get a couple of goals under his belt .



28 Jan 2018 10:00:41
One thing is for sure, klppp can't be accused of not taking last nights cup game seriously, we had more or less had a full strength team out.

You have to give credit to WBA, they wanted it more than us.


1.) 28 Jan 2018 10:26:18
Or more importantly as a Liverpool fan you have to ask why we didn’t want it more than them? Two awful displays in a row, where was the fight after the abject performance against Swansea? We actually played worst last nite than against Swansea and that has to be a huge concern. Great teams get up for every match.

2.) 28 Jan 2018 10:26:21
Agreed mate that's what it comes down to for me as well, who wanted it more. West Brom made us look daft last night so fair play to them.

3.) 28 Jan 2018 10:26:18
Or more importantly as a Liverpool fan you have to ask why we didn’t want it more than them? Two awful displays in a row, where was the fight after the abject performance against Swansea? We actually played worst last nite than against Swansea and that has to be a huge concern. Great teams get up for every match.

4.) 28 Jan 2018 10:26:21
Agreed mate that's what it comes down to for me as well, who wanted it more. West Brom made us look daft last night so fair play to them.

5.) 28 Jan 2018 12:14:08
WBA have a stronger and more organised defence than us, and a better, confident keeper in Ben Foster sadly.

6.) 28 Jan 2018 13:56:18
Swansea and West Brom we were just not up for it and to let this happen it is both manager and players fault . The lot of them should for go their wages for the two games and give it to charity this would give the greedy bastards the kick up their arses they need so much and appease the supporters who work hard to pay to watch the primer Donnas perform when they feel like .

PS Klopp did not know in his interview that we had been knocked out in fourth round for the last two seasons now three does he no that now that is how serious it is taken if the manager can't be arsed to no this why should the players . I bet if you asked reds fans they would of known.



21 Jan 2018 09:40:31
Morning Ed 002.

Have a quick question regarding FFP.

Are UEFA still enforcing this so that clubs can't spend beyond their means? I understand we were investigated back in 2016 I think.

Take for instance City, lots of people saying that they had found a loophole in the system to counter this.

Am I correct in saying City Football Group own or co own 6 clubs over 4 continents, building state of the art accadamies?



{Ed002's Note - (a) Yes, FFP is still being enforced. (b) No, Manchester City did not find a loophole. (c) Yes, City Football Group have ownership or investment in a munber of sides across the world. There is obviously nothoing wrong with that and it is unrelated to FFP.}

1.) 21 Jan 2018 09:53:07
Cheers Ed002.

Sorry think I didn’t explain myself. With CFG investing or owning sides across Europe, I could see them using this for finding talent across the globe.

What I meant to say would this be a form of income for them? For instance, I’m sure they would be able to sell players they’d scouted or trained at their acadamy’s For s profit.

I think City are going to become a major force globally ed002


{Ed002's Note - In terms of "schools of excellence" and "football schools" Manchestr City have invested in the Flintstone school in Abu Dhabi Dhu in the same way as Liverpool has invested in a similar venture in Australia and built relationship with third party centres. Chelsea have a whole bunch of football schools around trhe world which they either run themselves or have a relationship with a third party. The same is true of many of the mainland European sides - so it is not simply Manchester City. Ownership of the likes of Girona and NY really has little or no impacty on Manchetser City themselves, but City Football Group are looking to continue to expand.}

2.) 21 Jan 2018 11:20:50
Hi Ed002,

Do you see the business model that the City Football Group are taking adopted by others? In that I mean can you see more and more football clubs from across the globe being owned by a a single group?

On the FFP point, are each football club judged individually or will the City Football group be looked at as a whole? Not saying that it would happen, but does football have any form of transfer pricing legislation that would prevent Man City selling one of their fringe players to New York City FC for a massively inflated price to help them pass any FFP rules?

Also, I take it FSG has no plans to buy another other clubs.?

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - (a) Others are already investing in more than one club with RB Leipzig, New York Red Bulls and Red Bull Brasil all under the wing of Red Bull and Red Bull Salzburg being a close cousing (the ownership model having to be changed last year). There is no reason for this not to continue is businesses can find a model that works for thenm commercially and financially. (b) FFP is applicable to clubs, not the owners. I don't get your point about selling players for an inflated price - that is not on the agenda. It is a strange ovbsession that Liverpool fans have about finding ways to cheat. (c) FSG will have learned their lesson from Liverpool and are not looking to invest in any other club.}

3.) 21 Jan 2018 11:25:26
Ed, following on from Drogie's ownership question, are there any special rules regarding potential transfers between members of the City Football Group, or for that matter any specific regulations regarding any football clubs owned by a single entity?

{Ed002's Note - The only rule relates to the clubs not being able to meet in the same competition. This arose last year when both RBS and RBL qualified for the Champions League and the question was put to UEFA to see if would consider a rule change - but there was a wider implication (actually two) that would have made it difficult. Regardless, Red Bull adjusted the ownership model for RBS so the problem went away before it was discussed. There is no restriction on transfers.}

4.) 21 Jan 2018 11:27:55
“Manchestr City have invested in the Flintstone school in Abu Dhabi Dhu”

That should provide a “bedrock” for the future development. 😄👍.




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31 Jan 2018 19:39:16
Evening ed001.

Showing my ignorance here.

Demirbay? Any good and would he be a first team starter? What positron?!



{Ed001's Note - not seen him play that I can remember sorry.}



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28 Jan 2018 08:34:16
The club knew Couthino wanted out for a while, I just hope there was/ is a plan in place and it’s just not delivered as yet. Whilst his form may have dilpped, a fully fit, focused PC would be missed from any team and we clearly missed that last night. Must be patient though and not just buy for the sake of it.

Some mentioning Sanchez, serious cash and salary involved but he will push them on a notch without doubt.




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28 Jan 2018 08:17:52
Or cover.

Couldn’t believe how easily cut through our midfield.




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27 Jan 2018 08:10:25
The last time we won the FA Cup was back in 2006 then the League cup in 2012 and the League?

Players want to win trophies as well as being well paid, if we are not successful players will leave, as we’ve seen time after time.




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27 Jan 2018 00:01:38
Swish. I’ve not said they are being sold for the money.

We haven’t won a trophy in years and are no where near challenging for the league. Top players want to win trophies and be paid a big salary, something we simply cannot offer as it stands, this is my point!





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16 Feb 2018 23:11:50
Just gutted my attempt at a song regarding the front 3 got such little attention.

I blame Ed0025 😜😜😜.


{Ed025's Note - i phoned andrew lloyd webber about it drogie....still waiting for a reply mate.. :)



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15 Feb 2018 20:50:32
The thing is, we sing the “Mane Mane” bit in the kop, is just not heard the rest re Salah and bobby.

Ah well.




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15 Feb 2018 20:20:42
Ed25.You’ve just ruined my evening.

Was driving on the M62 this morning, the song came on and the words just flowed 😂😂😂😂

Don’t wet him soccer am, too busy playing trains with my 4 year old lad!


{Ed025's Note - sorry drogie but i had to tell you mate, and please dont make any songs up to the tune of...."the fields of anthenry, thats been done as well.. :)



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15 Feb 2018 19:43:00
Pak Red, I noticed manes attempt to copy him, hilarious 😂😂.




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14 Feb 2018 22:13:16
Ed002, Adriaan van Well would not be happy with you, associating SPAR with corner shop - tut tut 😜😜.