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07 Apr 2019 20:38:50
Just read we're interested in Depay if Mane leaves. I RTFP and his name was mentioned today but there was no reference to Mane leaving and the Ed's never commented. Please put this to bed Ed's on both fronts.

{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool do wish to buy Depay it would be at the expense of Mane I would think.}


1.) 07 Apr 2019 22:10:29
No no no!


2.) 07 Apr 2019 22:29:31
Could you tease us on possible forward additions if studge and Origi both leave please Ed? Or do you expect Origi to stay? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect Origi will stay and Brewster will, I think, be integrated in to the squad.}


3.) 07 Apr 2019 22:53:36
Depay for Mane would be a definite downgrade!


4.) 08 Apr 2019 18:16:27
Sorry, to clarify. Does "Depay at the expense of Mane mean" there's currently an explicit risk of Mane leaving, or is LFC just staying ahead of this and planning contingencies?

Or, am I reading too much into your answer and it's just your opinion that adding Depay would only happen if Mane were to leave?

{Ed002's Note - Why is this such a struggle to understand? You all crave £100Ms of players to pack out the squad - why would Insigne, Hudson-Odoi, Hazard, Dybala, Depay etc. move to sit on Liverpool's bench? Where would the money come from to pay for them?}


5.) 09 Apr 2019 06:54:21
I feel like Odoi is realistic as he is super young and wouldn't have a tranfer fee. also being so young id find it hard to belive he thinks he could join any elite club and be a nailed on starter straight away. whos to say shaqiri won't leave as he may have fallen out of favour with Klopp.? there would be plenty of very good players that wouldn't cost 100m+ and be happy to be part of our squad that is trying to win things. injuries, form and rotation is an obvious reasoning for good players to join us with realistic chances of plenty of game time. i dunno why ed2 keeps banging on about us having to let 1 of our front 3 go to add obvious lack of depth on LW and AM. players will leave but it won't be our stars, by liverpools choice anyway, so room will be made. Possibly Milner, Lallana, Sturridge etc. Liverpool is a much better fit for Odoi then Chelsea for game time and more importantly development. most players really as a matter of fact, as Klopp can generally bring out the best in players, so long as they have the drive to want to learn and improve.


6.) 09 Apr 2019 17:17:10
Thanks for the note, Ed002. I try to follow the finances part as much as I can with the info I can get, and I'm not delusional about what we can realistically expect them to spend this coming summer. I appreciate your notes on the finances, as I have worked in finance for major 4 teams in the US for 10+ years. You guys do a great job cutting through the sensationalist junk that gets reported. I do disagree on putting Depay and maybe even Hudson-Odoi in that big money tier, but that wasn't the focus of my question.

I'm just confused on how Mane relates to this, and if the situation is where there's a *real* risk of him leaving (teams actively plotting to acquire him) or if you simply think someone like Depay won't be added unless Mane leaves, in general.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will not add £70M or whatever players to simply sit on the bench. I stuggl;e to see why this is so difficult to comprehend.}


7.) 11 Apr 2019 17:58:06
I agree. I don't believe they'll spend that kind of money on a guy who will be support for Fimino, Mane, and Salah. Fee may stretch to 40-45M, but certainly not 70M. I also don't know in what world Depay is valued as a 70M player either though, but if that's the price Lyon have placed on him, then I understand why you keep coming back with his connection to Mane having to leave. All I really wanted to know though is if Mane may leave or not, independent of any interest or connection to Depay or anyone.


 

 

11 Aug 2016 05:07:11
I posted yesterday that a friend told me Benteke was at finch farm. Turns out he was on the wind up trying to upset some blues. I only believed him as we live right by there. Judging by the disagrees you lot aren't as gullible as I am.


 

 

02 Sep 2013 23:19:26
Eds any idea if we have a recall clause with Borini's loan deal. Incase of injuries etc. Thanks in advance. {Ed001's Note - I don't know yet sorry.}


 

 

06 Aug 2013 17:10:55
Ally Cissoko loan deal completed according to LFC TV. £1m upfront and £3.5m to make the move permanent. Not a bad move IMO as it should keep Enrique on his toes. YNWA.


1.) Very good news. Don't think enrique will be at Liverpool this time next year unless he learns to control a ball and stop attacking like a headless chicken. imo

Ynwa


2.) No it hasn't been announced dude. Don't read nothing into the rumours page on the LFC TV site


3.) Can't find anything to confirm that!


4.) Where is this so called confirmation? The official LFC site doesn't mention this!?
Perhaps in the "rumour" section?


5.) Not saying anything on LFC tv about deal?


6.) That's a Daily Express rumour, still no official confirmation.

Drigan


7.) Ok just read a comment above claiming enrique runs up the pitch like a headless chicken. my two pennys worth here. enrique is a quality player. ok he isn't the best defensive player in the world but my god the lad can cross a ball he can shoot and his quick. I rate him. think he ozzes class. his first season was not great but he needed time to settle in. enrique is going no were.


8.) I hear that, there are worse players than Enrique, but competition is always good


 

 

01 Aug 2013 00:36:24
Not pretending to be ITK but a guy I know who visits Melwood regularly and always seems to get players attending charity events etc has claimed Suarez has agreed to stay 1 more season in the hope we get CL. If we fail the club has agreed to let him go for 40m. Not sure about it myself would just like some thoughts from fellow reds. Thanks.


1.) 40 Mill next year? bad business when we've touted him around for 55 Mill this year.


2.) As Gerrard say's it would be great for LFC if Suarez stay's for one more year and we get the two big signings we need! My money's on Papa and Eriksen.


3.) Get rid, way he's acted he does not deserve to wear the red of LFC!


4.) I'm on the fence if this is true. Was quite down about the whole situation what with us all backing Suarez through his past incidents. It would be great to have him for another season (incident free of course) we need his goals, although Sturridge will score a fair few. But it won't be the same after what Suarez said and how he and his agent have gone about things this summer.

If LFC have agreed with this '40m sell on if we don't have CL football' -wouldn't he have to sign new contract?


5.) God I hope you are wrong.


6.) 01 Aug 2013 10:02:09
I had heard something similar. Saying that they would offer him a new contract same as his current although there would be a full release clause should Liverpool not attain Champions League. This would be difficult in my opinion hecause what if we finished 4th? We wouldn't certainly be in the Champions League proper, especially with some of the teams you can face in qualifiers these days.
Id personally hold him to his current contract and let him go next year anyway. His worth will not decrease much as his contract goes from 3 years to 2. Next season is going to be decision time.

Anfield Andy {Ed002's Note - I would be suprised if Liverpool were to offer a new contract with such provisions - and the significant wage increase that would go with it - after everything that has gone on this summer. He clearly wants out as evidenced by his agent contacting other clubs again to try and get more interest in him.}


7.) This might not be bad news and, for a change, I actually agree with all posts so far. I agree that he doesn't deserve to wear the LFC shirt given his conduct and I agree that £55M now is better than £40M next season.
But. nobody has offered £55M now so we are likely to be "stuck" with him. If "stuck" with him, we might as well have him motivated.
Sean


8.) What goes on off the pitch, stays off the pitch as far as I am concerned. If he gives his all when he puts a Liverpool shirt on, then I hope every Liverpool fan gets behind him!

The last thing we need is a rift between players/managers and fans. We all know how Chelsea did with Rafa last year, yet the Chelsea fans are the ones that looked the fool come the end of the season.


9.) I would also like to see him go. But without CL it is very difficult for us to attract world class players who can lead us to the top 4. Hence, it may make some sense to keep him for one more year. Although we will miss his services in the first 7 games which may prove crucial.


10.) Pure crap why would Liverpool agree to that when they don't have to?there is no clause in his current contract that Liverpool have to sell him .hopefully they hold onto him this season get champions league football then have a look at it .they are not about to throw away 15 million cop on .


11.) Taking the contract and price out of the equation. you can't disagree In my opinion that he is almost irreplaceable in our current circumstances. Even if he went who could you possibly sign with his credentials that would be available. In my opinion, no one!


12.) The one plus factor about us not having European football this season has always been that Saurez is not cup tied. I think that it makes sense for both him and the club that he stays at least until January, when if we want to sell he may be even more in demand with some Champions league clubs. But who knows, perhaps we will be doing well enough to encourage him to stay and try for Champions league football with Liverpool next season. I don't think he wants to leave Liverpool Football Club - I think that he wants Champions league football (as they all do), which is something quite different as it's something that we cannot offer at the moment. If we had CL football would he want to leave? No. If he stays I'm sure that he will not do a Torres - he has always given 100%. If he goes he goes, and life goes on without him, but personally I would love to see him stay. He may be a liability in so many ways, but he is a great player.


 

 

 

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17 Sep 2019 22:23:45
Question for any Ed who has the answer.
Why did Westham let Adrian go. He's still got so much to offer and deserves to be more than a second choice. I'm glad they did cause he's better than Migs and Karius put together I'm just curious.

{Ed001's Note - his contract ended and he was not interested in signing a new one.}


1.) 18 Sep 2019 01:45:06
Fabianski is their No.1 and rightly so. If Adrian had the choice to either be first choice at another decent club or be 2nd choice at a superior elite club it would have made no sense for him to sign on with west ham to be reserve for a mid table side.


2.) 18 Sep 2019 09:19:15
Thanks for the reply.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. Har_red92 misses the point. He didn't intend to be a number 2, he wouldn't sign a new contract there and was looking for a number 1 role. However, like so many Spanish, Liverpool is a dream club for him, so many of them there have LFC as their second favourite club. So when they came knocking, he was signing before he even looked at what he was offered.}


3.) 20 Sep 2019 01:09:38
Ed001 that was kind of what I was trying to suggest also but maybe didn't sound that way. In fairness to him he must be delighted to have got the chance to play an important role so soon into his LFC career. If he can remain solid until Alison returns then he's played a huge part in our season, even if he rarely features for the rest of his contract he can be proud that he contributed in currently one of the best teams in Europe.

A special outcome for what seems like a genuine nice fella, barring any costly moments in his upcoming games of course.


 

 

25 Aug 2019 15:01:29
What a free kick by Harry Wilson. His all round game needs to improve if he's to have a future at Liverpool but the boy can strike a ball👏.


1.) 25 Aug 2019 16:58:42
OP, anyone can strike a ball if you practise enough. It is not a talent.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true. It is a very definite skill to be fair.}


2.) 25 Aug 2019 18:31:01
Clearly someone who has never played football at any level would come out with such a daft statement.


3.) 25 Aug 2019 20:27:46
Rubbish, IR. Playing in the regional leagues in France in my 20's, I was able to chip the GK from 25 yards out for fun. It was not some skill or natural talent. I just learned and worked on it in training and during training matches and in games. Even you could learn it cos it was not that complicated.

Ed01, you mentioned skill. IMO, skill can be worked on/ honed to near perfection, IMO. The word "talent" was me referring to striking the ball, as not being a natural talent cos you can work on it. A distinction w/ o a difference? I don't know. Just my opinion.


4.) 25 Aug 2019 21:19:21
some players have that knack for striking a ball. I think that is why you have long range bombers like scholes, stevie and lampard, and then everyone else.


5.) 25 Aug 2019 21:26:55
We are talking about a player putting a ball over the wall, past the keeper, into the top corner. If it was that easy to be "worked on" you would have more players able to do it. It is a skill or talent if you want.


6.) 25 Aug 2019 21:33:39
It's clearly a bit of both as not every person is similar in what it takes to be strong in that particular skill. You will obviously improve with training and practice but certain unique traits play a part in how every individual differs in being naturally suited to be more talented than others. Ronaldo has shown that with extreme training and hard work he can now strike a ball much better than he could when in his early United years.
But then someone like balotelli has shown from a young age that he was strong in the art of thumping a clean strike yet he's not the type of player who has trained hard or shown improvement in his game.

Attributes like balance, body shape or physique along with vision is more natural than trained. How each brain thinks differently in the process of picking a spot or choosing type of technique and power to use is clearly very naturally built in to each player in different ways that can play a huge part in being talented for that particular skill.

To say it's not a natural talent and only training is needed to master it is very much false. Training is essential of course but certain traits in each person's make up plays a big part and not something that can be easily trained to change.


7.) 25 Aug 2019 22:57:07
Har_red92, I can agree with your Ronaldo allusion cos part of it explains my point, to some extent. The rest of your post is also, very interesting as well and I agree with. Loved the debate.


8.) 26 Aug 2019 00:04:38
Cheers Redwolf. it's pretty much similar to most aspects of sport. I can't think of many where natural talent doesn't play some part. Even a basic game which has constant repetitive actions like darts for example relies on constant practise for improvement yet many players have shown to be much better than others despite less hours spent training. Things like hand eye coordination and composure under pressure are built into each person differently and those traits all contribute towards a 'natural talent' as such.

Be interesting if there's any examples where this isn't the case.


 

 

17 Aug 2019 18:53:06
Not Liverpool related but I think I've just seen substitution of the season already. Comes on during a corner and scores with his first touch. Unbelievable Lucas Moura.


1.) 17 Aug 2019 19:04:06
Naaa divocks going to score the league winning goal in our final game!

{Ed025's Note - only if your desperate i would think mate..


2.) 17 Aug 2019 20:27:33
We don’t play Everton in the final game😂.


3.) 17 Aug 2019 19:37:37
Could it not happen Ed? He done it easily enough against Everton.

{Ed025's Note - he never done it easily polecat, pickford punched the ball on to the bar and it hit the big galoot on the noggin mate, thats not likely to ever happen again i would say..


4.) 17 Aug 2019 21:51:54
To be fair ed025 you wouldn't have thought it was very likely the first time! Lightning can strike twice.

{Ed025's Note - it certainly can bledd, who would have thought that after karius you would employ another butterfingered waste of space.. :)


5.) 18 Aug 2019 02:43:03
Its fine we still are above you and will still finish way above you ed🤣🤣🤣.

{Ed025's Note - i think you may well finish above everyone liverbird


6.) 18 Aug 2019 11:44:11
Ed25 so you are now saying that the reason ORRRRIIIGGGIIIII scored against your hapless lot, is cos your "Massimo Taibi" punched the ball into his way? So to you, he gets no credit for making himself available and anticipating where the ball could go? YIKES! I seriously recommend that you prolly want to get that rash of bitterness you have for Big Ol' Divvy, checked out by the Neverton medical team. May cause swelling.

{Ed025's Note - if you cant see that it was a mistake by pickford then you are thicker than i thought mate, that ball should have been tipped over the bar and the the big galoot would probably ended up in the net rather than the ball..


7.) 18 Aug 2019 23:23:19
Ed25, you clearly missed the "Massimo Taibi" pun I was making. Your GK is a running joke and long may it continue. You can call me thick as much as you want BUT clearly the sight or sound of OOORRRRIIIGGGIII triggers the heck out of you, to the point that you start calling people names like thick and all that mess. I take it as a compliment, tho.

"Big Galoot". How long have you been saving that wet blanket of a joke. Admit it, mate. You're the true epitome of The Pavlovian Theory. Once Origi is mentioned, your fangs come out and you lose the plot and start spouting incoherent, mindless rants. Long may it continue.

{Ed025's Note - you get me wrong redwolf, football is not the be all and end all for me and i am the first one to give stick to everton players and any other players as is my want, as a guy i like origi but i just dont think hes a very good footballer so when people like you describe him as the second coming i feel the need to educate you, your biggest problem is that you dont listen to alternative views, you are condescending to other posters and bully people who dont agree with your stance on things, add to that your continual sucking up to ED001 and im sure you will realize that even though you are a very good wordsmith and write some really entertaining stuff at times you do come across as an odious little irk on occasions...peace..


 

 

02 Jun 2019 15:43:18
Just seen the boys on Higher Road in Halewood. Must've went the long way to avoid the crowds in Speke. Am I right in thinking the parade officially starts at Anfield?

{Ed002's Note - TRy the club webside - I imagine they will have somplete details.}


 

 

08 Sep 2018 23:40:19
I'd like Ed001 and Ed002s point of view on this. ( although I'm sure Ed002 will claim another conspiracy against LFC😂) First off the clanger De Gea got away with tonight. If that was Migs or Karius the knives would of been out and the pundits would have ice on their wrists right now. On the flip side although Rashford was offside how good was that save with his feet cause Migs or Karius would of tried to drop and get hands on that. Is the difference coaching or just ability in your opinion.

{Ed002's Note - Well I went and dug out a video clip and I rather doubt the Liverpool fans would have been screaming at Karius or Mignolet but screaming for the foul on the goalkeeper if it had happened against Liverpool rather than against Spain. As for my view on the incident, I can see the refereee's point of view that it might have been a foul - given the ball was not dropped until Rashford was backing in to De Gea.}


1.) 09 Sep 2018 09:48:31
Ed2! how you doing? hope life is treating you well mate.

{Ed002's Note - Life is pretty good thanks Salah. I have some difficult travel for three or four days coming up but I am sure I will survive it. How is the recovery going - I am sure that everyone would like an update.}


2.) 09 Sep 2018 10:33:18
Very happy to hear life is good Ed2 and I hope you have safe travels the next few days!

I'm doing alright thanks very much mate, I tried to avoid posting about it on the site (to avoid flooding it again lol) but I was in hospital the other day again because I over did it a bit but I'm ok and out again. The worst thing for me at the moment is not working, it's doing my head in.

At one point I was moaning about working too many hours, now I want to be back at it! It's hard to keep busy, especially when they tell me to rest, I can't just rest because it's bloody boring! I'll get there though so it's no big deal, just a waiting game and I'm impatient lol you take care Ed2 and thanks again.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks for the update. I am sure wy travels will be safe this month - perhaps not quite as safe next month though.}


3.) 09 Sep 2018 11:50:57
Good to have a positive update Salah 👍

If you’re at a loose end my garden is looking a bit untidy 😉.


4.) 09 Sep 2018 12:26:10
Nice one salah what a great character you a are. We're completely oppersits but I really admire your spirt and determination. Best wishes dude.


5.) 09 Sep 2018 13:05:12
Apparently Spanish fans aren’t the biggest fans of De Gea, so maybe the knives would have been out, if it counted.


6.) 09 Sep 2018 13:29:09
Thanks for the update Salah, glad you are feeling better.

Ed002, safe travels.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


7.) 09 Sep 2018 14:30:25
Any chance of Salah getting a Ed's spot while he recuperates, life coach maybe, I know he's changed my outlook on a few things.


8.) 09 Sep 2018 15:15:57
Salah, my man. I don't know what you mean by "overdoing it" but whatever it was, you should stop doing it and give your 100% focus towards your recovery and taking it easy. Nothing is more important. You're a family man, so I'm not lecturing or being pedantic; you know very well what to do, just do it. We all want to see you back in perfect shape asap.

On a side not, what's that missing 2 penalties all about? Dude, you need to get back in that warrior mental stance and smash everything that comes your way into the nets. We've got to go for 44 this year 😉.


9.) 09 Sep 2018 15:52:49
Salah, take it is buddy.
Small tip, Netflix is your friend! 😊
Some real treasures there for the bored mind.
My "no more children" operation is coming up so going to rely on them and Prime to get me through those painfully boring 😉 days.


10.) 09 Sep 2018 16:30:47
Thank you all very much, your kind words are much appreciated, hope you're all having a great Sunday :) .

Ra, I'm aiming to hit 45 this season, don't you worry about that ;) .


11.) 09 Sep 2018 18:29:15
Take it there Salah can't have boring nurses and docs with footies gossip lol glad it's coming well. long may it continue.


12.) 10 Sep 2018 12:35:37
Salah take this from someone who wishes he could turn back the clock time at home with family it's better than anything I worked my arse off and ploughed many hours into work to give my little boy the best start in life we suddenly lost him at 4 years old in march this year and now all I wish is I spent them hours with him as nothing can replace that time appreciate it all bud and make the most of it while you can.


13.) 10 Sep 2018 17:24:39
Bloody hell berg, I just have no words mate, I'm so very sorry to hear that. You are right and hearing things like that really make you think because you just never know what's around the corner in life. Thank you for your post mate.


 

 

 

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19 Oct 2019 20:05:01
The way Milner has looked after himself he could have another 3-5 years left in him. The mans a machine.


 

 

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02 Jun 2019 22:58:10
Couldn’t agree more Brocko. If a player doesn’t want to come because he’s worried about game time then we don’t want him, I want players who believe they can displace the current occupants other wise what’s the point.


 

 

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26 Jan 2018 19:13:41
Thanks for putting me straight guys. Seems odd you can talk to the players representatives but not the player himself. Just seems like a tapping up loophole If you ask me but I don’t make the rules.

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25 Jan 2018 02:59:37
I read we’ve agreed terms with Lamar but we still haven’t agreed a fee with Monaco. To me it’s media BS or Klopp is still tapping up cause I’m sure you can’t agree terms with the player without agreeing terms with the club first. I’ll be very surprised if we sign anyone else this window and couldn’t care less if we don’t. We’re slowly building a squad capable of challenging for the title and I believe it’ll all come together next season. Klopp has deliberately aquired players to push us on: probably in the wrong order as defence and GK should of been sorted first but I’m putting £100 on us winning the league next year. Remember Klopp said if he’s still here in 3 Years time then he’s won the league. I believe he’s been building for this. Anyone want to match my £100 and we’ll create a pool. It’ll be fun.


 

 

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25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.


 

 

 

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04 Nov 2019 16:39:02
Just watched the highlights from the Everton game and the ref initially runs over to Son with a yellow card in his hand. His decision therefore is clearly influenced by the extent of Gomes injury. Wish Gomes a speedy recovery and also feel for Son as well. Nice to see a player show genuine remorse for injuring a fellow professional.


 

 

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30 Oct 2019 22:03:47
Ed666 has had a lot on. Well it is Haloween Ed001 someone’s got to scare the kids. 😂.

{Ed001's Note - fair point, he is very good at that.}


 

 

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30 Oct 2019 21:22:45
Great point Ed002. Plus Brewster has come back from a bad injury and will need time to get up to speed. The Ox still isn’t at the level he was either. Patience is required with both.


 

 

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18 Sep 2019 09:19:15
Thanks for the reply.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. Har_red92 misses the point. He didn't intend to be a number 2, he wouldn't sign a new contract there and was looking for a number 1 role. However, like so many Spanish, Liverpool is a dream club for him, so many of them there have LFC as their second favourite club. So when they came knocking, he was signing before he even looked at what he was offered.}


 

 

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11 Sep 2019 16:36:19
Oxlade-Chamberlain is a big name too.