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28 May 2018 05:54:01
Ed02.do you think we will target any goal keeper this summer? Thank you.

Livebird31

{Ed002's Note - I don't think there is any doubt at all that at least one goalkeeper will be added this summer.}


1.) 28 May 2018 08:37:41
I am just hoping that if/ when we go for another first choice keeper we don't do a half job. Don't go out and get a Butland or someone of that standard just to fill a hole. Do a proper job, get a proper number 1, Oblak, Alisson or anyone of their sort of calibre.


2.) 28 May 2018 09:31:00
Fans may want Oblak or Alisson. But I doubt both Butland and Fabianski will come to replace Mignolet, Ward and Bogdan. Karius will stay cuz no club is willing to rescue his career.


3.) 28 May 2018 09:29:38
Butland will surprise a lot of people. Similar lines to Robertson and the Ox 👍.


4.) 28 May 2018 09:49:47
Really, stop talking about RESCUING the career of Karius, no one is judged by a single game, however horrible it may be. Bring the summer and next season already. Since Karius and Van Dijk started playing, we have been a different team in defence, 17 clean sheets for the season, third after United and City, on 19 and 18, ahead of Chelsea and Tottenham on 16, how bad is that?! Karius has 10 clean sheets in 19 games, remember those as well. He sucked, badly, on Saturday, still has 10 more years left to play and could grow to be a rock if he manages to get through this nightmare.


5.) 28 May 2018 09:52:51
Hopefully Ron if he arrives.


6.) 28 May 2018 10:00:41
Just guessing of course, but the clubs thinking may be that although Butland isn't currently top quality, he is generally pretty decent, and perhaps he can be coached to an acceptable level- and maybe they think there are more urgent priorities for the transfer funds this summer?
What was also interesting was that the much-maligned Keylor Navas barely put a foot wrong all night.
I wonder if people think he is now of acceptable quality, after watching him play well?


7.) 28 May 2018 10:06:50
Navas stayed planted to his line when we scored and we barely troubled him. He’s not the answer.


8.) 28 May 2018 10:09:55
whz, stats do make sense, but please count all of his blunders, not only clean sheets.


9.) 28 May 2018 11:24:22
If we buy a new number one, there will be no point keeping Karius. He'll just sit on the bench and maybe get a few cup games.


10.) 28 May 2018 12:49:23
Yes, well, I didn't say that he looks world class to me, or hedoesn't do any blunders, but, believe it or not, Oliver Kahn failed to control a pass of his own teammate, you can check, its a Bayern - Goteborg 1997/ 98 champions league match.

So I was just saying something in the lines of "Stop talking abour Karius as if he's the worst keeper in the top 5 leagues", because he is far, far, far, far from that and there would be many clubs that would take him as their number one.


11.) 28 May 2018 12:42:53
Hi ed would there be a change in the goalkeeper coach.

{Ed002's Note - I would not have thought so, he is close to Klopp, provides input from the bench, gets the subs ready and deals with the fourth official. I am not aware of any plans to change him but maybe the club will look for a whole new backroom staff - but as I say I am not aware of that being the plan.}


12.) 28 May 2018 12:58:32
Fully behind your comments whz.
We xan be different and actually support the kid at his lower point.


13.) 28 May 2018 13:01:40
Ed- that’s a major concern for me.
We could get Oblak or Allison but they could get the same GK coaching input we’ve had in place since 2011.

The GK’s will have to do what Achterberg is coaching them to do if they know he has influence on JK and selection.

I think we need to look at this area of coaching as cananyone day any of our keepers have got better under his watch?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of what Achterberg has done wrong. I assume you think he told Karius to roll the ball to Benzema? And did he tell him to let the shot slip over the line? Karius was the choice of someone else - shouldn't he be held to blame? After all it was him the on a number of occasions has made statements about who is number one, number two and number three - switching each time? Would you have been saying this if Liverpool had won the last game 3-0?


14.) 28 May 2018 13:25:23
For me, im in full support of what ed01 said.

If there is a need to change, get a top class goalkeeper.

If not, just stick to Karius.

To add on to this. If we stick with Karius, give Ward a chance to be back-up. If Ward wanna leave, get someone in as an able 2nd choice. Butland is fine.


15.) 28 May 2018 15:27:47
Guys im all for supporting karius in his summer of need. Guy needs some well wishes after what happened.

I hope he comes back stronger.

Im not having a karius out rant here and i've stated before in other posts that the simple fact of the matter is he will never be anywhere near a top class bracket of goalkeepers. Final aside there has been plenty of evidence of this. Age aside his handling and decision making is really poor. He is a decent shot stopper but even then most times he saves shots with his wrists and pushes the ball straight out when it should be to the side. Whether that's down to coaching or not i don't know. But the evidence is there that both keepers seem to repeat the same mistakes over and over. If they are coached to shot stop the way the do it is a serious problem and a new gk coach needs to come in.

To win top trophies on a regular basis you need a world class goal keeper.

The fact of the matter is that there might not be any that want to come this summer or a deal may prove to difficult to get over the line.

If butland is signed he will easily become number 1 at liverpool. He is a better goal keeper than karius pure and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise may just have the red tinted glasses on. 20 million for butland would be a steal in my opinion.


16.) 28 May 2018 15:39:53
I guess it is You'll Never Walk Alone as long you win us silverware. Otherwise don't let the door hit you on the way out.


17.) 28 May 2018 16:07:57
Wolverine, I’m presuming you don’t remember that shocker when Butland virtually threw into his own net against Everton. He isn’t an upgrade on Karius.


18.) 28 May 2018 16:39:14
To be fair FranklyMrShankly. You can pick out mistakes from every gk in the world. Including best in premiership de gea had a a lot when 1st arrived and as good as he was let in a few soft goals this season. I personally feel Butland though not my 1st choice. But possibly most realistic choice, could surprise a few as mane, salah, ox and Robertson have. In a better team with better players, and a management team who seem to install confidence and excitement.


19.) 28 May 2018 17:24:34
If Karius is being picked on because of making critical unforced errors, it makes literally no sense to buy a keeper who not only makes those mistakes, but makes worse and has a history of long term injury. It’s utterly illogical. I’d rather stand by Karius than throw however many millions down the toilet on Butland.


20.) 28 May 2018 17:18:42
Good post Wolvetine and MrShankly I’m sorry but Butland is a big upgrade on Karius. Don’t mention one mistake by Butland as your justification unless you want to put up te longest post of the day by mentioning all Karius’s mistakes.

I remember the great Ray Clemence letting a tame Dalglish shot through h his legs in an England v Scotland game, so they all make them. The only reason I remember it is because it was so rare.


21.) 28 May 2018 18:12:14
It’s more than one mistake though this season from Butland, he’s made multiple mistakes which is why he’s dropped down the England pecking order quite some way, in fact it’s fair to say he has been culpable for a fair amount of the goals Stoke conceded this season when he has played and his performances have been worse than Karius. That Everton own goal was the one that stood out the most, if anything it was worse than the one Karius conceded because he almost almost threw it in the net sideways. Against us he looked ropey and it’s only because we were knackered and only had two shots on target that they didn’t concede. He simply is not an upgrade. Going after Butland is repeating every mistake we’ve made in buying keepers over the last few years. He’s a mid table player at best with a big question mark over his fitness and that isn’t worth wasting the massive fee that Stoke will be demanding.


22.) 28 May 2018 19:40:12
Mr shankly

Im not judging karius on the final. Im judging him on every time i've watched him. In my opinion he is not long term no 1 material.

All goal keepers make clangers now an again.

The only reason i talked about butland is because the chat on here seems to be that he is a likely target.

When you compare butland and karius butland is a better keeper. In my opinion if he is the only keeper we sign he will easily become number one.

He has made mistakes but he also had quite a few worldly games over the years.

Butland has been between the sticks at the alamo this season.

Let me put it this way if karius had been playing for stoke this season not one person here would be looking us to sign him.

Like i said in my first post im not on a karius out crusade. I really feel for the guy and he most certainly wasnt the only reason we lost on saturday night. I really hope he improves and would love nothing more than him to be a world class keeper in 5 years time. Im just saying that i really don't see it happening and so he's not a long term number one in my opinion.

When you talk (hope) about challenging for the league and look at areas that need improving in our team to be able do so its impossible not to look at goalkeeper as one of them.


23.) 02 Jun 2018 14:01:40
Ed
I am stating that our GK coach has been in place since 2011 and that in that time our GK’s have not improved.

So no- I’m not suggesting Achterberg told Karius to drop a couple of clangers in the final by any stretch- more a longer term view about how our keepers have or haven’t progressed over 7 seasons.

{Ed002's Note - How do you measure goalkeeper improvement. Karius wasn't at the club in 2011. Aside from Achterberg being an employee of the club and therefore being fair game for the supporters to attack him, I am not aware of anything he has specifically done wrong. Perhaps he is not getting the best material to work with - in which case you need to kick whoever decided to bring Karius to the club out?}


 

 

06 Apr 2018 02:52:18
Can I hope for Isco eds? for us next summer.

Livebird31

{Ed002's Note - If you are a Manchester City fan.}


1.) 06 Apr 2018 09:24:33
Another terrible move for the player imo. Wasted 5 seasons being a rotational player at Real and not improved one bit since winning the Golden Boy award. Best of luck to him trying to displace KDB or Silva from the starting lineup. Man City hoarding up all the talent that they can get their hands on.


2.) 06 Apr 2018 09:41:57
reports are that City have dropped interest in him.


3.) 06 Apr 2018 09:49:51
Silva is in twilight of his career. Isco will be his replacement. In two years time Silva will be phased out with isco being a focal point along with kdb.


4.) 06 Apr 2018 09:54:56
Isco is a very good player imo and featured inside the top 10 ACM of Ed01’s list. He is skillful and has a superb vision to pick players. He would excel under any manager. Better than Bale on any day!


5.) 06 Apr 2018 10:24:59
Isco doesn’t have another 2 years to wait he needs to be playing now.


6.) 06 Apr 2018 10:50:41
Isn't Silvas partner still out in Spain and I think his newly born baby had some kind of complications. I wouldn't be surprised to see Silva go back to Spain this summer to be with his family.

{Ed001's Note - it was a premature baby wasn't it? He has always said he wants to go back to Spain to end his career.}


7.) 06 Apr 2018 11:13:02
Ed01 I think so mate. I didn't want to guess as it's obviously a personal matter. I think City might let him go back on his terms as a thank you for his service as long as it's not to a Real or Barca. His head hasn't looked with it since the birth and who could blame him. But that's just my 2 pence worth.


8.) 06 Apr 2018 11:20:09
My little boy Toby was born 10 weeks early, he can out at 3lb 2 and went down to 2b 11. He was in an incubator for 4 weeks, then in care for a further three weeks.

I was working away in London at the time and was only back at weekends to see him. It’s was the most stressful period of my life so if Silva’s wife is back in Spain, I understand how he feels.

Toby had a bleed on his brain, was deaf in one ear
and one of his eyes were not functioning correctly. Thankfully all the problems corrected themselves while he was in hospital and he’s now a feisty little 4 year old and has fully caught up.

If I had the opportunity to speak to David Silva I’d tell him keep strong and have faith. The work the Neonatal Nursers do and their absolute commitment and professionalism to their job is fantastic.

If it wasn’t for the nurses, I wouldn’t be enjoying my gorgeous son today and taking him to Little Kickers in his LFC football kit ion a Saturday morning.


9.) 06 Apr 2018 12:16:42
Toby sounds like a great fighter Drogie. Perfect LFC material. Train him well my man :)


10.) 06 Apr 2018 12:19:16
Drogie - good to hear everything is now ok mate. God bless.


11.) 06 Apr 2018 16:16:46
Drogie great to hear the little man is doing well.


12.) 06 Apr 2018 17:20:25
Thank you chaps 👍.


13.) 06 Apr 2018 17:21:15
You are well and truly a gem Drogie, My second fav poster after negative ☺️☺️☺️.


14.) 06 Apr 2018 18:55:12
Thank you mate, that’s what I love about this site 👍.


15.) 07 Apr 2018 08:52:16
God bless little Toby the Red and little Silva 👍.


 

 

08 Jun 2017 01:54:54
Have we turned to de Vrij?

Livebird31

1.) 08 Jun 2017 04:52:19
I did. For a four pack. It's going to be a loong summer.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 07:06:36
No airport or cousin rumour till now. hope they start soon🤓🤓.

Livebird31

{Ed025's Note - you can be sure they will liverbird..


1.) 06 Jun 2017 10:27:40
I can confirm my cousin is currently rumoured to be at an airport, I will keep you updated.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 11:07:28
Turned out to not be true, he was at a train station.

{Ed025's Note - love it angry..


 

 

 

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29 May 2018 02:03:04
Ed01.a scout on fabinho pls😁😅.

Livebird31

{Ed001's Note - ok mate will do it as quickly as I can.}


1.) 29 May 2018 08:27:17
Morning Ed mate. Looking forward to that, I know literally nothing about the lad, seen him play but not enough to pass judgement.


 

 

29 May 2018 01:52:17
Look forget about playing aspects. but signing him with no media attention. that's something i love.

Livebird31

1.) 29 May 2018 08:14:15
Livebird, that used to be the LFC way and hopefully, it is on it's way back.


 

 

27 May 2018 13:26:01
Ok. Karius made blunders that cost us. its hard to move on but I know we will. but its really sad to see twitterites threatening him and all. he is a human. I say we stick with him. this is Liverpool fc. we always never walk alone. and at this moment one of our player needs us. and we are going to support him. #LK1.that aside. its been a really good season. let's take positives from that. front threes good. our backline one side is sorted. midfield will be improved. ynwa.

Livebird31

1.) 27 May 2018 13:43:11
Stick with. He fronted up to his errors and apologised.

Perhaps he was unsettled after getting elbowed by Ramos - which the official standing by the goal failed to spot.

Never, ever have I wished a player to get injured but I do hope someone puts one on Ramos in the WC.


2.) 27 May 2018 14:10:34
Same here AggerDo. He’s a nasty piece of work and deserves some karmic retribution.


3.) 27 May 2018 14:31:38
Despite everything I do not wish injury on anyone that's just how I am.


4.) 27 May 2018 16:15:30
Players shouldn’t be on social media, their accounts should be managed for career purposes but the players themselves should avoid it in my opinion.


5.) 28 May 2018 06:04:34
I want hin in the group stage. rm i mean. should shoy them. if salah wasnt injured we would have been up before half time.


 

 

27 May 2018 05:42:06
. I dunno what to feel about Karius. on one side I want him gone. after those mistakes. in final of ucl no less. but we r Liverpool. we will be with him. he needs us. we will be there with him. Liverpool forever. support Karius all. please. ed01 what do you feel?

Livebird31

{Ed001's Note - I have said all along we either buy a top class keeper or we stand by him. He made mistakes but that can happen, no point replacing him unless the keeper is a step better.}


1.) 27 May 2018 06:37:24
Spot on ed, no point spending the reported 40mil on butland who doesn't change anything.

Lets spend whatever it takes for a world class keeper and move forward.


2.) 27 May 2018 07:09:10
Maybe I'm still reeling from the game but I just don't see a way back for Karius. I've been supporting him all season and now I just feel stupid. The 1st goal was a mistake that anyone could make but the third goal was a unbelievable mistake for a professional goalkeeper to make. The thing is I really like Karius and his style of goalkeeping, with him being a sweeper and quick off his line. However, this is the final straw for me, if i was Klopp I wouldn't trust him again't.

Maybe I'll sleep on it and feel different but right now I feel like we should do everything to sign a quality goalkeeper. For me they don't even need to be top class, just someone who would not give goals away like Karius did today.


3.) 27 May 2018 07:27:09
I am absolutely happy to stand by him. He had a mixed day. Some very good keeping and excellent saves and a couple of mistakes. Still believe midfield and some quality depth is more important than a new keeper.


 

 

26 May 2018 01:40:07
Ok. to our players in the match-we believe in you. to our fans attending the match. give them hell. and to eds all the best! getting nervous now. but somewhere im confident of victory. somehow. let's hope it comes together eh? and us lifting the trophy.

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25 May 2018 05:15:12
What will happen to ox then?

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24 May 2018 05:56:01
Wanted to request u ed01.while making our season review right. make four parts.1-summer transfer window,2-season till end of December,3-winter transfer window, 4-season from jan till our cup victory! Is that ok?

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{Ed001's Note - I very much doubt I will have time for that mate, sorry. I will have to see, but the World Cup is going to cut into my free time during the close season.}


 

 

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18 May 2018 03:08:00
Is tarkowski any better than lovren? other than that. why would we pay high figure for dembele when he is imjury prone? and may not even get into front three? rest all i wouldnlove to see here. hope you are fine Macca.

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01 May 2018 14:58:39
Dead leg will depend on the player. of the player doesn't feel 100% it's always better not to play them.

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12 Apr 2018 12:29:40
10? I tnk more than 20 bro.

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28 May 2018 16:45:11
Well. considering a team which finishd fifth did win it a few years ago. yea i believe we can ed.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of a team finishing fifth having ever won the Champions League but I will take your word for it.}


 

 

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28 May 2018 06:04:34
I want hin in the group stage. rm i mean. should shoy them. if salah wasnt injured we would have been up before half time.

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27 May 2018 08:11:05
On form? the only thing they didnwas to keep the ball. after exit of salah the only time we pressed was when we scored the goal. after bales wonder goal. we just stopped playing.

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26 May 2018 19:34:18
Ed no one thinks u r rambling that much i Guarantee you. i hope my love wins today. infact its morning in my country. i love Liverpool. its taken a lot big part of my life. hope we win Tonight.

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26 May 2018 20:47:47
It was not unfortunate he pulled him with him.

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