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23 Oct 2017 12:19:07
Hallo Eds
Quick question, is there going to be real effort made NOW to look for players in January? I know its a bad month to do business sometimes.

LancasterRed

{Ed001's Note - the club never stops looking for players to buy in the next window or two. The problem is that they never seem to find them!}


1.) 23 Oct 2017 14:47:22
I can't see much business been done in Jan, so I'm personally looking to the summer. Should we get another player or two in Jan then that's a boost but I'm not getting my hopes up for them to come crashing down Jan 31st when we've signed nobody.


2.) 23 Oct 2017 23:12:06
We can't not sign players in Jan if we don't then for me Klopp is finished.


3.) 25 Oct 2017 03:24:00
Its only worth signing players if they are going to improve us. Its easy to say the current ones aren't good enough but no point is flushing money down the toilet simply to announce a transfer. Point is we have to find player (s) who are better than our current ones who are also available and wish to come to us - which is why Jan is always tricky.
Personally Id like to see money spent on overhauling the scouting department.


 

 

 

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23 Jan 2018 08:04:24
Shame we couldn't get the win or point last night but first defeat in 18, for me Wijnaldum shouldn't be anywhere near a team if we aren't playing a side that will attack us, his only solid trait is his closing down and when playing teams who sit he is the worst player to have on the pitch, last night he was worse than terrible, a little dance as per with the ball and a sideways pass, awful, there was no zip in midfield and it slowed us down, Lallana made a difference straight away with his direct approach, I hope this brings him back into the fold.

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1.) 23 Jan 2018 08:41:12
I said last night watching the game that Gini only looks comfortable when he is pressing. Can only looks comfortable in a physical battle.

Ox wasn't playing well but he was trying to make something happen at least, and the decision to take him off before either of Gini or Can was dreadful.


2.) 23 Jan 2018 11:28:11
Agree with that MK, Ox was the only 1 of the midfield trying anything, Can was slowing the game down to his pace, which isn't exactly high speed, what gets me though is that Klopp takes until roughly the 68th minute of any game to make a sub, Wijnaldum will never unlock a team, he is a presser and that's it, no different from Henderson, at least Henderson has the inkling to play a 30/ 40 yard pass, Wijnaldum I reckon has never played a pass over 7 yards, he wouldn't get near my team if I knew the opposition were going to sit back.


 

 

16 Aug 2017 08:09:45
Morning,
Last night was a great result but showed up our midfield again for me, the lack of quality, positioning and vision in there without a Lallana or Coutinho is frightening, please tell me eds that that 3 is making Klopp have second thoughts about how effective they all are together? Woodburn dropping deeper in pre season looked promising alongside Grujic, hope they get the chances in there this season.

LancasterRed

{Ed001's Note - he already wanted to change it, hence the attempt to sign Keita, so why do you need me to tell you what is obvious?}


1.) 16 Aug 2017 08:17:56
This is for all those who were constantly ranting our midfield well stocked up! This is where you win the match and for a team who press high up and counter quickly you need a world class Midfield both offensively and defensively. I am on prayers we actually sign Kieta. He will walk into our midfield. I would also buy a DM.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 08:27:41
I would play Can at DM over hendon. I think it's his best position as long as he can occasionally get a decent run forward. Saying that it is easy to forget that it was only Henderson's 2nd competitive game in months.


3.) 16 Aug 2017 09:16:55
Emre can, kieta, coutinho that 3 would be dream status for this season and could happen, I can't see the owners back tracking on 2 statements in one window, the vvd withdraw and apology and the coutinho going nowhere one too.


4.) 16 Aug 2017 09:44:42
It never worked last season when they all played together and the attempts to buy Keita have been fruitless to say the least, the same midfield for 2 games running made me think he sees something in it, which was my worry, as you stated he wanted to change, I stated the opinion as in pre season Grujic and Woodburn both impressed far more than the others and deserved a start, Moreno got one due to pre season?, I never mentioned Keita as I know you love talking about him as it never comes up haha, I would hope for changes for the Palace game and luckily Zaha is out, although im TAA would have had him in his back pocket.


5.) 16 Aug 2017 10:47:41
What I noticed was that the 3 midfielders were mostly on the same line and a long ball beats the 3 of them.
I noticed the same against Watford, they always push up together and leave a lot of space behind to exploit and that's why we're countered easily.
Klopp has to sign a dedicated DM - in my opinion anyway.


6.) 16 Aug 2017 11:23:11
Sign a DM or get a centre back who opens their mouths and pulls 1 of the 3 back into position, this follows the trend that no one on the pitch has a voice.


7.) 16 Aug 2017 11:55:56
Solanke had a great preseason aswell he should be in front of origi at least on the bench. Like TAA klopp should give big chances to kent and woodburn because the creativity they add to the midfield and attack would compliment us perfectly. Im not saying start them every game but there not even on the bench as an option.


 

 

15 Aug 2017 08:08:50
Morning Eds
After taking your info in yesterday about what is perceived as a lack of spending by many over the years, im curious to have your take on the general feel that FSG like to buy cheap potential and sell for big profit, this is the Coutinho saga down to the ground an exactly what the model seems to promote, what message does it give when we are losing our best players for allegedly high gains, where is the ambition to add to a squad and have a go for the league? We finished 2nd under Bodgers, sold Suarez, who was a pain, and wanted out but replaced him with more potential, Can, Markovic etc when it would have been wiser to get first 11 players imo, the kids need to bulk the squad out and it should mainly always be the first 11 that needs improving.

LancasterRed

{Ed002's Note - FSG do not decide on the players joining.}


1.) 15 Aug 2017 09:14:14
Lots of Critisism for the owners if we buy cheap and sell high but nobody ever mentions the hundreds of players we have bought who's value has dropped over the years.
If we buy a player cheap and they end up being worth a fortune then that's surely a good thing? If our players are being targeted by the likes of Barcelona then we must be doing something right.


2.) 15 Aug 2017 09:46:59
FSG don't handle players coming in or out of the club.


3.) 15 Aug 2017 09:52:54
1985,most of the players we sell are at a loss, because they don't "cut it" or aren't given a decent enough shot, remember we cut massive wages from "mistakes" the other summer, we seem to need a reshuffle in scouting, we made the mistake (and this is just my opinion) of trying to fill out the squad rather than bettering the team over the last few seasons and beyond.


4.) 15 Aug 2017 10:11:46
Im fed up of selling players before they reach the best years of there career. I understand somewhat if a massive offer comes in that's too good to turn down but there has to be a point where to progress in the league and champs league these players need to be kept to move on and push forward into then becoming a realistic top club in the world. Fsg have this model of buying potential and selling for one purpose and that's to make money and unfortunately in football nowerdays its not really a fantastic business opportunity. Unless you make money faster than its printed (city/ chelsea) then restrictions financial wise will be there. Eds say fsg have invested a lot and i wonder if they're getting fed up of our club and the fruitless trophies and riches its had since there takeover. Behind the scenes i wonder if the club really know what is going on or what there doing? It doesn't seem like they new or know now how to understand football. Im just another"uneducated fan" not ITK but from the outside looking in this is what it looks like from my point of view.

{Ed001's Note - FSG do not set the transfer model at all. Why do people have this ludicrous fantasy that they do?}


5.) 15 Aug 2017 10:18:04
Coz over the years we bought too many potentials which were a gamble. Nothing wrong with it but then you should have no complaints when they go for cheap! The club never wanted to pay big wages for big players. Hence the potential!


6.) 15 Aug 2017 10:28:56
I think his point is that they gamble on potential rather then buy so called established stars which I tend to agree with the op.

{Ed001's Note - FSG do not have any involvement in recruitment. As for the potential, LFC have always done that, why is this new generation of spoilt brat fans suddenly got a problem with it?}


7.) 15 Aug 2017 10:49:33
FSG have not forced anyone out the door in the interest of massive profit, the two players who have left, Suarez and Sterling, made their positions untenable and forced the club to sell them. I fail to see how this is FSGs fault and part of their master plan to cream the club of finances.


8.) 15 Aug 2017 10:57:39
The problem is ed is selling them too early and not keeping the group together to actually be able to realistically challange for the league. Im not a spoilt brat at all ed maybe when other fans abuse us for living in the past to much we actually are on all fronts? Transfers and how to conduct ourselves, Recruitment etc. Maybe what we've always done doesn't work anymore with every team in prem getting ludicrous amounts of tv money could it be time to get to the here and now? Not what we've always done.

{Ed001's Note - not at all, the problem was that we changed the way we worked and it has all gone wrong ever since. We are not doing things the way we used to at all. Everything has gone to pot since the idiot directors forced out the world's best scout ever, in Geoff Twentyman, because Ian Rush didn't immediately perform. That was the beginning of the end for LFC as a dominant force.}


9.) 15 Aug 2017 11:11:04
Scarface, the points being made point towards the calibre of player we have tended to get, potential can only get you so far, they need class players around them and they need a couple seasons usually to bed in, we haven't ever really kicked on when we have had a decent team, to get the best standard of player unfortunately you have to pay and we paid for the wrong talent too many times, its not a new generation of fan either that has a problem, I grew watching early 90's LFC and that model back then of pushing players like Beardsley out for younger potential didn't work, it wasn't until Fowler, Owen, Mcmanaman etc who actually had the talent did it come good.


10.) 15 Aug 2017 12:24:48
Thanks ed1 about twennymen info. We need to get up to speed asap with the behind the scenes camp. It is frustrating that as soon as we get a decent team going it gets broken up. Is it just luck that it happen?

{Ed001's Note - it is poor forward planning. The club have not got a long term structure in place and so everything is always about this season and maybe the next one. We need someone, such as a DOF, planning ahead of that.}


 

 

14 Aug 2017 12:41:00
Not a rumour more a rant. I would like to know the eds opinions on FSG, personally I think they should have gone along time ago, we make plenty of money off tv, sponsorship etc yet spend nothing, are weaker now than last year, have a midfield 3 that without Cout or Lallana are very very average and a defence that are weak in the centre, we have shown no ambition to coutinho or the fans that we will be getting strong enough to challenge for the league, FSG are the milking the club for all its worth and taking the money back to the US and keeping it there.

LancasterRed

{Ed002's Note - The owners don't make plenty of money out of anything and they have spent enormous amounts. Their problem is having an ungrateful fan base which is far from the brightest with no understanding of the finances at all. You are an idiot.}


1.) 14 Aug 2017 13:17:47
You have to give up some people who are out there in numbers abusing FSG ( the easiest pick ) among the lot for not securing 3 points against Watford. I have never understood how FSG or any owners for that matter are responsible for conceding stupid goals over and over again due bad coaching! I am stunned just like every time Klopp got away with it!


2.) 14 Aug 2017 13:20:56
Wow!
Where do people get their 'info' from?
It's beyond special.
Short memories since 2010.
And this is probably the tame version.


3.) 14 Aug 2017 13:25:30
FSG saved our club from administration. They have ploughed millions of pounds every year (£50m) and still given managers money to spend. They have turned the club finances completely around. FSG want the team to be successful, unfortunately we have had people that have squandered all the money on poor signings, players we did not need.
If you actually supported the club and have any knowledge at all, you would know this.


4.) 14 Aug 2017 13:30:45
There is nothing wrong with the owners. They have backed Klopp, it's not there fault that we can't get players in.


5.) 14 Aug 2017 13:31:59
New main-stand, players like salah, mane, firmino, wages etc. Keeping a club running is expensive and the club does not make 200mil a year to cover it all.


6.) 14 Aug 2017 13:37:31
Lancaster red how are we weaker now than last year. From what i have seen we have improved the squad with 3 new players and none have left so far. And peopl saying our squad isn't good enough we won't get top 4 etc. These exact players minus Robertson, Salah and Solanke all GOT US TOP 4 LAST YEAR. we have not gotten weaker. I do think we need more signings to improve first 11 but we have only played 1 game so far and seems our fan base has gone into meltdown already. Yes saturday was poor and we shoukd have won but that's football. We will have games a lot better than that and even a few worse. Either way support the players and stop being so defeatist.


7.) 14 Aug 2017 14:07:06
Again with this ridiculous FSG bashing. Some people really don't have a clue. I replied to a similar post already today. Not going to bother repeating myself.


8.) 14 Aug 2017 14:16:29
How can we be weaker than last year, brought 3 players in and lost lucas.
Also Kent, Trent, Woodburn with more experience.


9.) 14 Aug 2017 14:35:45
I honestly thought John w Henry so definitely have done better on first corner, to be fair. He looks like a tall bloke, should be getting his head on those.


10.) 14 Aug 2017 14:22:09
It was a question. Moreno at left back, no lallana or coutinho, TAA offers more than Clyne and was impressed with his delivery from open and set piece play, must admit I liked Robertson before he came to Liverpool so can't knock that signing, I think he will do well, we were desperately short of quality last season when both L an C were out, Hendo, Can and WIjnaldum lack real quality when all together, they need a player/ players of higher quality alongside them that make them up there game.
Ed 002
Not ungrateful at all, don't see the improvement in the squad from the last 3 windows, Salah and Mane are top class, Solanke can't get on before Origi and that guy is not great tbh, we have been top of tv money lists, have big sponsorship, a huge fan base, merchandise, tours, cutting of the wage bill, it was an opinion where we need large investment from either a investor like Everton have got or a complete sale, its a greedy money orientated business now and we seem like we are behind and have a problem with the running of the club.

{Ed002's Note - What investor has given money to Everton?}


11.) 14 Aug 2017 14:26:18
I blame the WAGS for the failure to sign some of our targets.
Instead of looking at the possibility of signing for Liverpool players look at what shops/ brands are on the high street and if the WAGS give the thumbs down it's "no thank you"
London, Barcelona and Madrid will win every time.
So Ed002, would it be out of the question to move our club south or even to Spain or Portugal?
And I know where Utd are based but they just buy titles.


12.) 14 Aug 2017 15:32:06
Evertons new Owner, Moshiri? isn't FSG'S moto buy young potential for cheap and sell for profit? That's always been mine and many other reds understanding of how they run the club, when the opportunity for us to kick on after having a good season arrives we go backwards, transfers have been a big problem for years with LFC, getting them over the line, eds themselves have said how the tactics of the club are a disgrace, we low ball clubs because we are lfc, so the running of the club can't be all that, for me the Watford starting 11 was weaker than last season, nothing major has been addressed, think we need more creativity, more leaders at the back who would throw their heads in anywhere, TAA has improved right back, Salahs pace was much needed, some agree some don't.

{Ed002's Note - Moshiri has not invested in players or given Everton any money. You obviously know nothing of the finances nor have Liverpool, or seemingly other clubs, are run.}


13.) 14 Aug 2017 16:07:29
I Don't Eds and that is purely why I ask the questions, its things I have no inside knowledge of and like 98% of supporters we get info from Sky, websites or papers, we have no inside knowledge, we see other clubs signing and improving while reading you and the other Eds hammering our dealings with other clubs and how we go about things, I don't see us as stronger just from the Watford game, it was a less creative starting 11 from last year, we have kids like Kent, Ejaria to boost the squad when needed, we need first 11 players, we could sign 3/ 4 players in the next 2weeks and be in a much better position, fingers crossed,

{Ed002's Note - In which case ask rather than make rash statements that are wholly untrue.}


14.) 14 Aug 2017 16:30:38
Everyone likes a passionate heated fan Ed002, I see others improving and us falling apart, Klopp looked a broken man this weekend, I want us to look like we are kicking on instead of stalling, all our press is negative because of Couts and the poor little guy only wants his dream move, no blame can be put on him, he gave his best and has caught the eye of Barca, timing sucks eggs but we all want to get back to winning trophies (if only to shut them dirty Mancs up from down the road)


 

 

 

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17 May 2018 10:30:22
No contort is fine in the context thanks ha, Karius isn't near top level, he is an improvement in Mignolet and that's where people are thinking he is upto the job, he produce some good performances but still doesn't look like winning us games, he has an unease about him that isn't going away, he made a couple of vital. saves in games at a time when we were rocking but that should be standard, he isn't top level or going to be imo.

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16 May 2018 16:46:25
Comparing stats Karius against De Gea? Come on, even the most blinded LFC fan wouldn't think Karius is in the same league as De Gea, Stats can really contort views of players.

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09 May 2018 12:30:19
Navas is truly awful and im being kind there too.

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28 Mar 2018 08:34:28
Kloppshop, I don't see him running games in the future with much tempo, he is a good player but that's it, not a plyer on a level where he can take us to a league or CL, he plays at too slow a pace for me, that's all, I think when he and especially Wijnaldum play together in midfield it slows our play too much, wasn't fussed when he was in contract tbh if he was sold, ok player just not at the top level I think we need.

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27 Mar 2018 09:07:50
To be honest he is a good player but is very replaceable, I wouldn't put him in the "oh no please don't leave" standard of player, I think we could get a lot better standard of player to replace him, regardless of what is coming out about money etc I think he is off to City, he is a 6/ 7 out of 10.

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17 May 2018 12:20:32
MK, Id have Dier stepping out to support Henderson if needed, Alli to get us moving forward with a bit of bite and Sterling and Vardy uptop to give us an option of over the top or threw balls behind, I don't actually think the England team is all doom and gloom as some do, as a side note id like to us makea bid for Loftus Cheek, if Klopp can develop him, he could become a beast of a centre mid.

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17 May 2018 10:46:09
Dier ***.

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17 May 2018 10:34:42
Butland
Stones Dyer Maguire
Walker Rose
Henderson Alli
Sterling
Vardy Kane
Be happy with this for the world cup, Quarters is as far asis ee us going, the Euros should be a more realistic goal.

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15 May 2018 12:59:43
I think if Klopp gets his arm round Butlands shoulder and gives him the boost he needs we will have a keeper with the ability to get us challenging for everything, Id make Sessegnon a priority, even it means loaning him back to Fulham for a year or 2, he is going to be something else that lad, would like a bid for Maguire too, think he is under rated and could be a good partner alongside Van Dijk.

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15 May 2018 12:53:12
Think you have a soft spot for Mignolet MK, haha.

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