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27 Jun 2023 12:38:08
Bit of interesting info, believe it or not, but Klopp and a FSG link man had a huge row at the training ground Sunday, wasnt a planned meeting but Klopp let them know he isn't happy the other sides are full of activity going for players he likes and we have no money/ stalling on targets, it's the first time he has lost it about money, he thinks FSG are holding out for another 12-18 months until they get the coin for another American team they can buy, don't see what they are achieving by holding onto us but Klopp isn't happy, we are falling away and the owners need to realize we need quality, also see's MacAllister as playing the Trent role in midfield, linkng play, seeing the passing from back to front with Trent staying at RB.

1.) 27 Jun 2023 12:48:53
Good info if true but if you know this has happened why not name the FSG link man! ?

2.) 27 Jun 2023 12:52:36
Cant think of his name off top of my head, he isn't a yank but works for them.

3.) 27 Jun 2023 12:53:11
a couple of ex players witnessed this too, one being David Thompson fyi.

4.) 27 Jun 2023 13:37:13
Classic.

5.) 27 Jun 2023 14:01:10
Great rumour, here's hoping its true.
If FSG don't furnish Jurgen with top class players for his first ever rebuild, the natives are not going to be happy.
Prices are ridiculous, and shopping for bargains makes sense, but sometimes you have to go to VVD/ ALI range, which we have only ever done at that time.

6.) 27 Jun 2023 15:08:18
Stalling? The window has been open for 9 working days and closes on the 1st September ??
Did make me chuckle.

7.) 27 Jun 2023 15:15:36
Aren't the players and staff on holiday at the moment?
Sounds very dubious.

8.) 27 Jun 2023 15:31:42
We all know you don’t like the owners Lancaster Red. Nothing wrong with that, it’s your view.

But knowing your agenda, I can’t help but doubt this rumour.

9.) 27 Jun 2023 15:41:20
Hope it's true and about bloody time for jurgen himself to call out fsg. probably had guaranteed funds when he renewed his contract.

10.) 27 Jun 2023 15:50:06
I thinking slipping from 3rd person to 2nd person plural was enough of a give away.

11.) 27 Jun 2023 16:21:52
If it is true let’s hope it does the trick and doesn’t escalate.

12.) 27 Jun 2023 18:26:03
This seems made up. Klopp didn't have to sign that extension last year if he was so displeased.

13.) 27 Jun 2023 18:37:15
Hope the link man told him we’re working on a huge deal for Mbappe.

14.) 27 Jun 2023 22:42:12
This never happened. Know it’s a rumours site but why are you sharing lies passed on as a rumour? Sad at best. Libellous at worst. Be careful.

15.) 27 Jun 2023 22:55:56
What doubt could there be. Jurgen, who is on holiday, went to Kirby and bumped into an FSG guy and they discussed transfers publicly in the earshot of someone’s mate who just happened to be there.

That tends to be how business is conducted these days so it’s for one cannot see who this is anything but true.

In other news, does anyone want to buy a bridge?

16.) 28 Jun 2023 03:23:27
We have already bought a player for a big amount!

17.) 28 Jun 2023 07:39:43
I guess after weeks of not replying to other posters (and eds) making points like:

over a few years we've recruited an over-sized squad
we paid some of the league's highest wages and agents fee
FSG didn't sign all the injury prone players
FSG didn't price players out of moves
heck, FSG don't even buy and sell the players
Klopp had the ability to gof ro Tchouameni and then decided not to pursue an alternative
Klopp's meddling constantly disturbs our ability to negotiate and deal with clubs
We had 9 first team midfielders last season while everyone was crying for midfielders
we've rebuilt the forward line
we've just bought a new midfielder
we could go on.

after all that and other points that anti-FSG brigade can't respond to other than to say "it's FSG in charge", then the next step is to make up a story.

guess it is a slow news day.

18.) 28 Jun 2023 10:13:30
Did Klopp break off his holiday to hang around the empty LFC training ground in case someone turned up and he could start an argument with them?

That's nice.

19.) 28 Jun 2023 12:20:57
Klopps not away at all, he was at Axa along with a couple of legend players Carra and Thompson and a few others, lie i don't. Libelous, its a story shared from someone at the training ground, i won't share in future and you can keep your red tinted glasses on, some people.

20.) 28 Jun 2023 14:32:16
Please don’t.

21.) 28 Jun 2023 14:45:08
Lancasterred, isn't Klopp still on vacation?

22.) 28 Jun 2023 14:45:08
Lancasterred, isn't Klopp still on vacation?

08 Feb 2023 10:40:37
Bit of solid info I've been given, but worth a share as i am seen as a bit of fsg hater, but here we are, coming from the Captain; Klopp hasn't been himself since his mum unfortunately passed. Many believe, and his missus included that he is in a state of depression, he lost his mum, then his dog that he used to walk round Liverpool with also died.

This was a big blow, he started snapping at everyone and as good as forced out the medical team, the new physios that have come in are terrible, coming from a player they are saying they do still have the legs but the training is terrible and they just aren't as fit as they were, some were disappointed when Klopp signed his new contract, such has been his downward mood, this explains a lot.

it's gutting to see Jurgen not being like the guy he was, hopefully he gets help from within the club, FSG says he has had enough money but spent it on forwards instead of the midfield issues we have. For me it's a bit of a kop out as we need both forwards and midfield. The investments have been nowhere near good enough squad wise, Bellingham is a massive Klopp and Liverpool fan, he wants to come, Klopp wants him there, the only worry is if FSG are still there.

i pray Klopp gets the help he clearly needs, his missus loves being in Liverpool and she 100% wants to be there and he does, just needs the help he deserves, the takeover is definitely happening and it will be Arab led, it is a little way down line but something is happening. YNWA.

1.) 08 Feb 2023 12:02:01
Well, where do you start with that. If true then he certainly does need some help from the club and even more help from the supporters.
If it’s someone making up nonsense then it’s pathetic and stuff like this shouldn’t be trivialised as idle gossip.

2.) 08 Feb 2023 12:14:42
This one has got to go into the hall of fame. Nice one.

3.) 08 Feb 2023 12:10:46
Thanks for sharing info. Hope Klopp finds a way out of his darkness and gets back to that famous smile of his again.

4.) 08 Feb 2023 12:10:46
Thanks for sharing info. Hope Klopp finds a way out of his darkness and gets back to that famous smile of his again.

5.) 08 Feb 2023 13:17:12
Sounds a bit odd given that he only recently renewed his contract with us. If he felt that way then I would have thought he wouldn't have done that?

6.) 08 Feb 2023 13:18:38
His mother died in 2021 so what about last season? As for his dog dying that's sad but he's a professional football manager and that shouldn't be an issue with him managing Liverpool.

7.) 08 Feb 2023 13:34:44
If this is true, and Klopp is really dealing with all these things, then it might be best for him to step down as manager of Liverpool. And, believe me, I say that with a heavy heart because of all he has done for the club. But, mental health should always come first above everything else.

Right now, he is thrust into the limelight. The whole world is watching him, ridiculing him, spreading stupid pictures of a lion and saying that is Klopp. These are the same people that will cry and parrot the need to protect people, mental health, and do not see their actions as contributing to this.

Simple people will always follow the herd, and, unfortunately, the target right now is Liverpool and Klopp on a regular basis due to our current poor form compared to previous seasons. Unhappy people, sad, lonely people, will often target those they had once aspired to be. Klopp is in a fortunate position, in terms of financial and societal norms, however, if the post is true, the same can not be said for his mental wellbeing.

Perhaps we need to part ways for the sake of all parties. A fresh start, new perspective and a new vision which is implemented by a new manager. Of course, FSG need to go for that to happen.

There is one bit I disagree with though. Klopp forcing out the medical team as they are at fault. The medical team is, in essence, supposed to oppose the manager for the sake of the player's welfare. If a player could risk injury, then they are supposed to tell the manager that he can not play, whether he likes it or not. After all, our doctors can only treat not prevent injuries that is not their assigned role within the club.

No, for me the fault lies elsewhere. I believe the fault lies with our fitness coaches, as well as our strength and conditioning coaches. Our bout of injuries, season upon season, has been a regularly occurring problem. To the same players too. In these instances, surely the fitness coaches, etc, would tailor their programme to more appropriate limits. But, clearly that is not happening.

Yes, acquisition in recent times has been poor. And, yes, the same players keep picking up knocks and injuries. But, surely the fitness group should adapt their training to prevent this. Either the fitness coaches are going too low intensity, which the Eds suspect might be the case, or the intensity is too high and it is causing strain. Either way, it is poor management and something that needs to be addressed.

8.) 08 Feb 2023 14:26:46
Regardless of how true this is that's a bit harsh Yarmo, to say what about last season well quite a lot were pointing towards somewhat of a decline even in last season but we were still getting results. Apart from that though I just disagree with saying how someone should be effected by what's happening in their life and how they should be dealing with it.

9.) 08 Feb 2023 14:38:36
All this has come first hand from Hendo?

10.) 08 Feb 2023 16:30:04
Should this very sad news not have come from the owners (if they are aware of it), rather than being leaked out.

As surely they would have been able to offer professional agencies to the Klopp family who deal with such sad situations?

11.) 08 Feb 2023 16:13:08
I actually hope you're making this up. Because if Hendo is going about telling any old boy about Klopp's personal life he's an absolute "see you next Tuesday". If this is true he's not the man i thought he was.

For that reason i simply can't believe you Lancaster. Because I don't want to.

12.) 08 Feb 2023 16:27:20
This is from within the club, Klopp is a legend in my eyes and i was trying to share that the Klopp we have seen since C.V. and after is clearly not the same as before hand, it explains a lot that was always clear to see, the man's troubled and needs our unwavered support to get him back to his old self. i trust who told me but i'm without doubt supportive of Klopp and not after a quick thumbs up, he needs some understanding and it has been said on here the step back he has taken is noticeable.

13.) 08 Feb 2023 16:30:31
LFC MANGO, Klopp was falling out with his medical team more and more, ( and most in general) which is one reason they all left for new jobs, the replacements are massively inadequate, Klopp can also see this but not a lot can be helped with that for now, hence the players being p. ed off with them too, as for your mate Ed025, Dele Ali, that lad has spent hundreds of thousands on a Playstation addiction, another who has fallen to addiction but not the usual one, aka D. James but on a much higher level.

14.) 08 Feb 2023 16:53:47
Correct MK, I really hope it’s not true. I just don’t believe that has come direct from Hendo.

15.) 08 Feb 2023 18:15:07
I frankly don’t believe Hendo wouldn’t do everything to bring this to Klopps attention either directly or within the club but would instead share it with outside third parties.

16.) 08 Feb 2023 18:30:49
Maybe he did Wassa but it fell on deaf ears and in frustration started confiding in close friends and it spread from there. Anyway, if it's true the clubs in an even bigger mess than most of us could have imagined.

17.) 08 Feb 2023 19:22:11
So you’re rumour is the script for John Wick!? I can assure you this is rubbish. Try harder or get better sources.

18.) 08 Feb 2023 19:22:54
Great post. I definitely agree something is clearly wrong with the training or medical team, as the players look way off it, and constantly injured. On top of that, they played a massive season last year with not a lot of squad rotation. If you pair this with players like Trent being allowed to play in whatever position he wants (apart from right back) and the defence simply not playing at premier league standard, in fact you could argue they aren’t even functioning at any professional standard. Well I suppose these two things alone would cause a huge drop off. Then when the forward players get it into their heads that their team is going to concede 2 or 3 goals per game because of selfish players like Trent or Joe Gomez (who is about 5 leagues out of his depths) not defending properly. Well then that will affect their confidence. I know people on this site don’t like Salah, but I would prefer to run with a more straightforward narrative. Salah is playing badly because he is in a bad team. It’s not his fault.

If Klopp is suffering because of his personal situation, then he could maybe take a break for a few months and get his head sorted. The season is over anyway, so it wouldn’t make any difference, and we all know that Ljinders is almost salivating at the thought of stealing his job, so we would have a ready made replacement. I don’t want Klopp to go by the way. I just want him and the club to perform better and run better. 1 season ago we were the envy of every team and sky sports were constantly going on about how we had the blue print on how clubs should be run. It’s funny how things change when you start losing.

19.) 08 Feb 2023 19:45:54
I think that is all this is, we are on a terrible run so 100’s of reasons get brought up. When we get back to winning ways you will hear no such stories.

20.) 08 Feb 2023 22:00:34
If we get relegated, will Klopp be sacked? I think this is the first season in my lifetime where relegation has been a possibility.

21.) 08 Feb 2023 23:42:30
@Monty, Including the Roy Hodgson era where we were supposedly "not too big for a relegation battle"? I feel we were closer to relegation then than we are now.

But whatever Lancaster has posted does seem very plausible and believable. I do work with people with mental issues and it is not unheard of for people to go into depression when their mum and pet passes away in quick succession. Coupled with being I a high pressure environment, I can definitely see Klopp's mental health suffering.

But like Adam and Mark above, I find it difficult to believe that all this came from Hendo. He just doesn't seem to be the kind of person to leak this kind of things.

22.) 09 Feb 2023 08:33:26
It's not a rumour and Henderson certainly isn't going round telling all, he never said all of what i wrote and he certainly isn't back stabbing anyone, it's a genuine break down of some things that are happening behind the scenes that can help explain a lot of how things have gone so wrong, it clearly isn't common knowledge so to say that Henderson is a C would be wrong, I have zero problem keeping these things for myself but as i have been FSG bashing so much i thought it would be good to shed a bit of light onto why and what is up, still hopeful they sell up sooner or later, they've had their time at the club, we are going backwards now, and NO player is spreading nasty gossip about Klopp, more of a concern, the physio's and fitness side are a shambles, that was from the skipper, he feels their being let down badly, as to not have anything twisted on here I'll keep the info to myself.

23.) 09 Feb 2023 11:19:53
So our midfield is non existent because Klopps dog died? Alright then.

24.) 09 Feb 2023 12:41:01
Whether or not any of this is true it would explain why Jurgen has seemingly aged 20 years in the last six months.

25.) 09 Feb 2023 13:43:24
I dunno if anyone else feels this way but the screw everyone else (take the oil money) as long as I get what I want (being able to outspend rival football teams) just leaves me hollow inside. If this is what fans want then why did they get so p. ed off with the ESL? I think the game as we know it will disappear and some sort of super league will happen unless we can make the game fairer, more meritocratic. My first game was at Prenton Park with my grandad, that memory means more to me that any number of Bellinghams coming into the club. I don’t want to lose that.

26.) 09 Feb 2023 15:49:39
According to reports today it’s the fitness coaches fault and he is why everyone has either left or is unhappy. Klopp has apparently hand both him and Pep a large amount of responsibility and they are not handling it well.

The more that is written, the more it sounds like a soap plot, which makes me think it is mostly unhappy Journo’s and a disgruntled tea boy making things up.

27.) 09 Feb 2023 15:54:26
I really would prefer to not have investment from someone who has considered another team first or owns someone else. Shortsighted I know, but the passion has to be in all areas of the club, so if the owners are just looking for the next investment or bigger opportunities in football then that disconnect is distracting and harmful. We are not a club who manages uncertainty well.

28.) 09 Feb 2023 16:00:17
Torbin, we don't need to out spend just be able to compete, and have the knowledge that if certain players are available then we know we can compete to get them, 2/ 3 quality every season is a must.

29.) 09 Feb 2023 16:37:46
Lancaster, yeah I hear you. I hope that the PL really backs up the charges against City with actual punishment if they are found guilty. Maybe that will help. I just don’t want someone to come in and throw money around and us not learn from our mistakes….

30.) 09 Feb 2023 21:24:18
@dracred. Yeah we are better now than during the Hodgson era, as in our team is better, but I think we are performing worse at the moment.

Yeah I completely agreed with Lancaster reds post about all the mental health stuff and all. I wasn’t disagreeing. But I don’t think it come from the team captain. Why the f@ck would he leak that information. Of what use would that be to him? Surely even the most stupid of footballers would know that that is just an idiotic thing to do, so therefore I don’t believe it come from hendo. Doesn’t mean the actual story isn’t true though. But how would any of us know anyway.

One of my close mates started working for Manchester City, about 10 years ago. He is not a player but would have regular access to them. He doesn’t ring me and tell me what is going on with his club and leak a load of dirt. It’s just stupid, in all walks of life or any type of job to talk sh@t about your boss or employers.

31.) 10 Feb 2023 08:46:08
whether true or not, I think it's always a reasonable thing to do to consider that there is more going on for these guys that the fish bowl we see them in. When we say we can't understand why so and so has been bad, or this has changed or whatever, it could literally be because we can't see what else is going on behind the scenes. It's why I really have no time for posters who take personal swipes at players who they know nothing about.

02 Nov 2022 12:34:19
Afternoon, Do we know of any interest in Rice or if he'd have any interest in us? Him and Bellingham is the kind of players we need to look at to get back in the fight for the league, if we signed both i'd be hard pressed to find a better 11.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have made no approach for Declan Rice.}

1.) 02 Nov 2022 14:56:07
We'd get no change out of £200 million for those 2.
Is it fantasy transfer time already?

2.) 02 Nov 2022 15:54:31
@Flash, think we would have the coin for that as we haven't spent much recently.

3.) 02 Nov 2022 17:01:10
I think you’d need about £250m and still get no change out it lol.

4.) 02 Nov 2022 18:32:30
Declan Rice for me, jury still out on Bellingham, a good player but when I watch him he doesn’t turn up, never pay £100m or more for him never.

{Ed014's Note - but pay £52 million for Keita ??

5.) 02 Nov 2022 16:32:52
Ed’s, As Dortmund appear to have placed a €150m price tag on Bellingham, is there a conceivable possibility of him moving in the January window, in your educated wisdom, do to it being so early in the season to release a figure of purchase, also ahead of the WC?

{Ed002's Note - Dortmund will likely look to an auction in the summer. The price you quote is not new.}

6.) 02 Nov 2022 19:32:43
Surly rice wouldn't cost £100m transfer fee with him down to 18months on his contract? Maybe with transfer fee+ wages+ other fees it would be that but not on transfer fee alone.

7.) 02 Nov 2022 19:43:11
It's not a question of having the coin for it, it's justifying that price tag. FSG have repeatedly made it clear they can't and won't try to compete with the oil rich clubs. Fans will just have to pine over these fantasy signings because they ain't happening.

8.) 02 Nov 2022 19:58:09
@Lancaster - lucky we managed to pick Nunez up on a free eh?

9.) 02 Nov 2022 20:23:09
We have a great chance of SFR.

10.) 03 Nov 2022 00:08:46
18 months or not, Rice still comes with the English tax.

11.) 03 Nov 2022 00:35:20
Ed2 just regarding an auction. For Bellingham, is it the case that Dortmund would take the highest bidder? For arguments say someone from China offered 200million…. just interested in the balance between getting the fee they want and also wherever it is Jude would want to play.

{Ed002's Note - They will look to sell to the highest bidder. There won’t be anybody from China bidding. Obviously Bellingham would need to agree any move. He will need to look at the proposals from those clubs who are showing an interest.}

12.) 03 Nov 2022 03:00:45
Eds014 No, I wouldn’t pay £5.24 for Keita he is garbage and as I said Bellingham is a good player but the chat of generational talent is a stretch for me.
Be happy with Rice at £60-70m.

{Ed014's Note - it’s got beyond crazy mate the prices for players some of whom, like you say are clearly garbage, is mental, where we thought paying £72 million for Pepe was a good idea I’ve no idea at all! ?‍♂️

13.) 03 Nov 2022 03:00:04
Just a question ed002, would Liv be able to afford bellingham financially? Not just the transfee fee but also other cost ex wages and stuff?

{Ed002's Note - It is not as simple as that. Are the club adding other players? Is anyone being sold? Is the wage bill in line with recommendations?}

14.) 03 Nov 2022 05:13:59
ok so again, for arguments sake. If West ham offered 80mil, Real Madrid offered 100mil, but Jude would only agree to play at West ham, how does that work?

{Ed002's Note - Players can not be forced to sign contracts at clubs they do not wish to play for. So he could stay where is.

15.) 03 Nov 2022 07:10:52
Has their ever been talks of a transfer fee cap like the wage cap . I really don’t think it would be hard to install int to the game I think it would be welcomed from most apart from the oligarchs and maybe a few others.

{Ed002's Note - Which "oligarchs" are those?}

16.) 03 Nov 2022 09:01:58
How much for brightons caicedo might be a cheaper alternative.

17.) 03 Nov 2022 12:37:46
@West did we not sell anyone this summer then?

18.) 03 Nov 2022 13:37:13
Ed’s, thanks for the reply re Bellingham, I am sorry tho it may have kicked off some stuff. I was asking in the general sense about a potential jan move, not specifically us.

Although I’ve seen very little of him play, I bow to ppls knowledge of him.

Tx for the great work/ wisdom.

19.) 03 Nov 2022 22:16:04
Give me Caicedo and Barella over them 2 any day of the week.
Overhyped English.

20.) 04 Nov 2022 08:36:15
Caicedo being quoted at 80m in the papers and I’d imagine Barella would command a similar if not higher fee too.

21.) 04 Nov 2022 08:47:28
@Lancaster - yes we did - it’s called sound financial business sense. Buy and make the squad stronger - sell the lads who don’t have a future at the club and (at least attempt to) balance the books. However, that’s not the point in question.

To say FSG don’t spend money on the first team squad is simply just not true. As I’ve said a number of times now, according to TransferMarkt, FSG have spent £ 1 Billion on first team squad players.

Of course they have sold players too - otherwise we would have dozens and dozens of players with a squad limit of 25. However, as I say, net transfer spend and recoup via outgoings isn’t the point in question.

What is in question is your reperetive (and totally inaccurate) statement that FSG doesn’t sped money on transfers.

22.) 05 Nov 2022 10:04:31
We see is in many transfers. The player says he only wants to join a certain club and won’t sign a new contract. Therefore the selling club normally agrees to a compromised fee. Bellingham wants to join Liverpool so I am confident a deal can get done.

09 Jun 2022 12:35:05
Alot of the Portuguese journo's now saying Nunez is done, certain ones who won't say anything until the deals agrred are saying it's virtually done too, not 100 % sold on Sangare as not seen enough of him yet but is any news around Gnabry/ Sane plus cash for Mane flying around? One of those 2 with Diaz and Nunez up top and that's the next big 3 for 5/ 6 years, fancy the league next year with that lot.

{Ed002's Note - Munich are not going to give Gnabry or Sane and cash to Liverpool for Mane.}

1.) 09 Jun 2022 12:59:38
They only get the cash if gnabry/ sane win 3 consecutive Ballon D'ors.

2.) 09 Jun 2022 13:13:09
Sangare could be one of those lads who goes under the radar, I guess the question for Ed002 is, would you consider Sangare to be a nifty footballer?

{Ed002's Note - He is well liked.}

3.) 09 Jun 2022 14:13:20
All of mane money will be used for Nunez Id imagine.

4.) 09 Jun 2022 14:26:08
Viktor mate UTD are after him too.

5.) 09 Jun 2022 14:33:56
If Ed says a player is nifty, well liked or well thought of then they’re usually worth a look. Personally I think if we were looking at a player like Tchouameni we could do a lot worse than take a punt on him.

6.) 09 Jun 2022 16:21:15
Watched a bit of sangare and from the beginning of the season to the end he’s improved a lot, I think he’d be a great signing.

7.) 09 Jun 2022 16:11:21
@kopforever, it matters little if United are in for him, he wants to join us and when it comes to picking a side then it us all day.

31 May 2022 15:10:45
With it seeming Rice is Chelsea bound, could we sneak in and take Gallagher off there hands?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea interest in re-signing Declan Rice largely left with Frank Lampard. Gallacher will not be moving to Liverpool.}

1.) 31 May 2022 16:03:24
Can’t see why we’d be interested in Gallagher if we were interested in Tchouameni, that would suggest we were after someone more defensively capable?

{Ed0666's Note - I don’t see how the two positions related?

2.) 31 May 2022 16:18:05
I think we should sign Declan Rice from West Ham and Kevin Lasagna from Hellas Verona.

Our squad didn't look hungry enough in a handful of games last season. Just keep Suarez away from the Premier League.

3.) 31 May 2022 16:34:48
Ed0666 if we’re looking at midfielders like Tchouameni and Sangare, ie the type who can play midfield anchor to cover Fabinho as well as being able to play box to box, then Gallagher would make no sense logically as he’s no way capable of playing that kind of anchor role.

{Ed0666's Note - I didn’t think we were looking at Gallagher. Box to box yes.

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02 Jun 2023 11:47:42
Thiago compared to Maddison is a no go, injury records is the most comparable thing, a fit Thiago is world class, a fit Maddison is a casino's nightmare.

1.) 02 Jun 2023 13:03:08
64 games missed through injury since he joined us is absolute crazy. not saying he isn't world class. Saying I'd sooner have someone less world class who plays more regular on less wages. Each to their own though.
And I don't mean maddison. just an example.

2.) 02 Jun 2023 12:38:37
They're also completely different players. It's like comparing Coutinho and Alonso.

3.) 02 Jun 2023 12:44:29
But there's a decent player in there. right guidance and coaching and all that. Even as a ox or keita role would be a decent shout for me. I had a quick look at injury record compared to thiago also. lot better in my opinion but could of read it wrong.

{Ed001's Note - he has missed a number of games due to disciplinary issues as he doesn't turn up to training due to nights out. He is a player to avoid.}

4.) 02 Jun 2023 14:54:37
MK, I presume you mean Fernando Alonso, as that would be the correct comparison!

5.) 02 Jun 2023 15:14:00
We'll see what maddison is made of when he moves to spurs, Newcastle or arsenal with 1 of those appearing to be his next destination. Never knew about his nights out and missing training ect.
Still doesn't change the fact thiagos injury record for us is shockingly poor. But seems some on here wouldn't mind if he only plays a hand full of games a season as he is " world class". With the wages he is on also.

6.) 02 Jun 2023 15:15:30
Spot on, MKS. First of all, where is this strange comparison even coming from? Maddison is NOT in Thiago's leaguein any way and never will be if he carries on the way he is currently doing right now. Maddison being fitter and more available for games than Thiago is a non-issue esp. if he keeps going missing in games he does play and if he keeps picking in what games he wants to be bothered to put a shift in. Again, strange comparison.

Secondly, Maddison has HUGE disciplinary issues. Klopp wouldn't sign him for that alone so the comparison is moot and quite strange, to be fair. Weird stuff, really.

7.) 02 Jun 2023 17:20:11
Maddison has Spurs written all over him.

8.) 02 Jun 2023 19:46:08
Since when has Thiago ever been world class? Really come on get your specs out you lot he is just another good footballer he has never and will never be world class! I wish he was though.

9.) 02 Jun 2023 22:27:46
I’d like to see Maddison at Man Utd - he sounds like he has the perfect attitude and attributes to play for them.

26 May 2023 12:24:48
So Klopp wants 1 player, we know who but the owners want 3 in so the books are balanced and the squad is heavy with numbers, they woulkd rather spend money, wages etc on 3 players instead of a world star, FSG are bank balance watchers, Klopp knows with Bellingham we win a league, CL but the owners are business men, not football men, they need to sell asap, promised investment or sale goes nowhere, they are bleeding the club dry and fans are letting it happen.

{Ed025's Note - i dont see what the fans can do about it lancaster..

1.) 26 May 2023 12:44:10
Lancaster fair play mate you’re consistent with your opinions. going to get some popcorn to watch this one play out.

2.) 26 May 2023 13:09:48
If the above is true (I can't say either way) then it's up to Klopp to call them out and battle back. Part of a manager's job is to ensure he has the best tools available to achieve his targets. If we can't provide that for him, somebody else will.

3.) 26 May 2023 13:56:19
Anyone that thinks that signing one kid wins us everything instantly loses credibility.

{Ed002's Note - The poost is not about Bellingham it is about trying to blame FSG for everything. It is his usual nonsense.}

4.) 26 May 2023 14:00:44
You can't say signing Bellingham would win the PL and CL. PSG signed Neymar, mbappe and Messi thinking it would bag them the CL and look what happened there.

5.) 26 May 2023 12:58:16
Start voicing their discontent ED025 at the games, make some noise against them, yet again trying to sell kits at shocking prices, tickets will go up, we are standing by while they bleed us dry and have no intention of improving us or backing Klopp, I can tell you that Klopp has told FSG that he would only sign Bellingham but they are the ones who said no, spending on 1 player when you can get 3 is their thought, looks better for the books, they are clueless and burying the club, they need to sell up, they have Klopp over a barrel and they know it, he won't criticize publicly, yes Klopp is too loyal to drab players but he has no choice here, every fan would pick Bellingham over 3 mediocre signings i can guarantee it.

{Ed025's Note - still a young lad though lancaster and unproven in the prem. I happen to think he’s marvellous but still a bit of a gamble mate. But have FSG really been that bad? Bought some very expensive players and invested in the ground and training facilities. There are worse owners out there imo… just look across the park..

6.) 26 May 2023 12:59:52
Thats the funny part isn't Ed25. We as fans can moan, critisise, protest, twitter hashtag etc but in the end of the day there's nothing we can do about it. It's all in the hand of peoples in charge.

Look at Utd fans. They have done everything yet the Glazers is still there. And by the look of it may stay there for few more years.

{Ed025's Note - exactly mfahmee mate..

7.) 26 May 2023 14:13:45
Maybe wait and see what happens before writing the club's whole future off?
Just an idea.

8.) 26 May 2023 15:43:54
Lancaster - how do you know what Klopp has told FSG and what FSG is thinking? Enlighten us all on how you have this inside info.

9.) 26 May 2023 16:34:09
He’s not wrong though in the big point he’s making.
They’ve taken us as far as they can, and we need new owners with more cash to compete
Newcastle have arrived, and Man United are going to swap hands.
We will more than likely get left behind the second Jurgan goes.

10.) 26 May 2023 22:10:03
They should either step up with player investment or sell us to someone who has deeper pockets. Pretty simple.

11.) 28 May 2023 07:12:06
I think the actually story is that we need to make more moves in the summer, and therefore using what we have on one player is seen as less effective than using that on multiple.

It's not like the choice was $150mil for Jude or $50 mil on 3 players and then FSG went for the latter.

that's just ridiculous way to assess it.

25 May 2023 08:34:32
So been told from someone who talks to Klopp that he is yet again battling with the owners over the budget, these owners are an absolute shambles, fans need to wake up to them, they never backed us when on top and they are making it even worse now, prepare for a long slog at the top 4 instead of a go at the title, Happy Thursday, ha.

1.) 25 May 2023 08:57:58
I think this summer will reveal FSGs intensions. I would not say they haven't been supportive and committed till now. They have in my eyes.

But this squad needs significant investment this summer. Let's see if they are still fully committed as they say.

2.) 25 May 2023 08:58:22
If that is true, then he should call them out on it or walk. It's his own reputation being impacted by having one arm tied behind his back. He's more than capable of leading a team to regular titles and European Cups if given the conditions to do so.

3.) 25 May 2023 09:23:05
Does he actually talk to klopp or is it the voices in his head?! Lol.

4.) 25 May 2023 09:27:59
"someone who talks to Klopp".

Hmm.

His hair dresser?

I personally find these sorts of rumours incredulous.

No disrespect to the OP, but anyone can make up poo like this.

Do you honestly think that Klopp would be moaning to his acquaintances about his employer?

It's far to easy to make up spurious rumours backed up by vague, unnamed sources just to add credence to an 'agenda'.

I call bull.

5.) 25 May 2023 09:56:46
Zeddicus, is this a rumours page or have I stumbled onto another site?

6.) 25 May 2023 10:03:55
I think regardless of what side of the fence anyone sits on it’ll be a case of wait and see.

The owners have always intelligently balanced the books and been able to bring Net Spend down with sales but it’s quite hard to see with this current squad where those sales come from.

One thing that seems to have slipped through the net is ticket allocation for next seasons stadium uplift. I think it’s quite shocking and definitely slipped under the radar and LFC as a whole have dropped the ball in my opinion.

7.) 25 May 2023 10:05:37
I would like to take the opportunity to remind people that Klopp signed a new deal last year. He must've known what the transfer budget was going to be like when doing so.

And if FSG lied to him, he'd have copped it by now and left.

8.) 25 May 2023 09:42:33
He should challenge John to an arm wrestle.

9.) 25 May 2023 10:12:25
Anybody remember Randy Orton's walk on music? I want Klopp to have that when he walks out the tunnel now.

"I hear voices in my head, they limit me, don't understand, I want Bellingham"

Then Klopp can hit the 4th official with an RKO outta nowhere!

10.) 25 May 2023 10:15:56
I know this is a rumour site, but I think it's quite unfair to make this assertion to use it as ammunition against the owners, without naming who it is you're talking to. At least with ST declared his connection with Gomez.

The issue I take is that you're not just sharing a rumour about something, you're sharing hearsay and using that as evidence to beat the owners with. It's reckless and embarrassing.

11.) 25 May 2023 10:19:20
It always surprises me how intolerant lfc supporters are too bad performances from players+ management, but have no issue with us spending like a mid-lower table team.

12.) 25 May 2023 10:41:53
Tbf Liverpool don’t leak a lot of info as we know so everything is water tight,
Ed 2 is the best source of information we have .
Clickbait is everywhere and if we signed everyone linked to us then we would have a team of midfielders.

13.) 25 May 2023 10:45:12
Jim Ross to replace Martin Tyler on commentary Adam lol
'My God, an RKO from out of nowhere! '

14.) 25 May 2023 11:02:56
Digger10 - that's cos 1 + 1 doesn't equal 3 mate.

15.) 25 May 2023 11:04:42
Because if names are named who tells me things it could stop, it is an ex player who is in punditry, it makes little difference if it's believed or not, some on here think unless its written in red then nothing is ever true, bottom line is the owners are going back on Klopp again over budgets, they are clearly, for even the most rose tinted wearing red, out of their depth and until fans start showing their discontent we will not get the players we need, we were on top and let it slip massively and if you think one window of average players will get us back your having a laugh, expect freebies Tielemans, Rabiot and some one else cheap while we sell Kelleher, Gomez and Fabinho so the owners get their pathetic low net spend at a relegation zone level, wake up.

16.) 25 May 2023 11:06:14
Faithinworks beat me to the punch there Pegleg.

This IS a rumours site.

We also have a very active conspiracy theories site.

Making sheep up and using it to push an anti-FSG agenda belongs in the latter, not the former imo.

17.) 25 May 2023 12:16:02
@Zedidicus, I have no problem admitting i want FSG out, they clearly are out of their depth, don't you think? I can guarantee we will again be in mid table for spending, and that's after off loading a lot of wages, not getting what fans aren't seeing, would someone honestly answer as to how they are happy for us to be run like this?

18.) 25 May 2023 12:40:10
Lancaster, fair play to you for committing to this. I don't think the owners are that involved in transfer budget allocation though. In fact i don't believe there is such thing as a budget. That's not how FFP works or how transfer fees are reported in the accounts.

19.) 25 May 2023 12:56:07
Lancaster, great that you are owning your opinion.

However, the facts are somewhat different and I prefer to follow them.

FSG have brought us the most success we have had since the halcyon days of the 70s and 80s. On that basis, I am perfectly happy with their ownership.

As to your guarantee that we will be mid table, well 8,7,2,6,8,4,4,2,1,3,2,5

That's the league finishes since they bought us - 8th was 2010/ 11 when they bought us after the season had started and the second '8th' was the year that Klopp joined.

Given the petro-dollars/ oligarchs that have entered the league since they bought us, that's a pretty good return, especially once they hired a manager of Klopps calibre. And I certainly don't expect them to be hiring the cheapest manager on the block when Klopp leaves.

Just my view of course, albeit I expect there's quite a few others who share it.

20.) 25 May 2023 13:43:26
On our league finishes, in the last 60 years of top flight football our lowest finish is 8th, which has happened 3 times. Twice that has happened under fsg watch.
Everybody entitled to there opinion of course but mine would be similar to Lancasters, I think he's right on his points except us going to midtable, I don't think that will happen. I think due to size of club we will always be 8th upwards but under fsg we won't win an awful lot,7 trophies in 14 seasons I think, which by some clubs standards great but I would like to see lfc aim higher.

21.) 25 May 2023 14:27:30
@Zed the mid table comment is aimed at spending, which we comfortably are, the finishes, added to the cup runs etc meant the prize money coming in and extra revenue from sponsors, tv etc was there, yet we spend like a Southampton, the 4 teams above us and the 5 teams below us will almost certainly outspend us yet again, that's a fact i can 100% go with, I'll never knock FSG for what they did prior to us winning the CL, that was their limit, after that the hunger to stay on top and money to get the standard of player needed hasn't been there, that CL Win should of been the start of so much more, not one fan can say they've done enough in the windows since, 1/ 2 big signings, yet we are so far back now.

22.) 25 May 2023 14:53:40
So we're going to sign only frees and a couple of cheap players whilst offloading Kelleher Gomez and Fabs?

Did your source tell you if Klopp agreed to this net spend of about negative 20m when he signed a new deal, or did FSG mislead him?

23.) 25 May 2023 18:12:22
The owners had a chance this summer to put a marker down and show the elite of Europe and the big hitters in the prem that Liverpool fc will back klopp. Not breaking the bank for bellingham is a disaster. I totally understand we have a wage structure and a budget but failing to get this deal done shows we can’t compete with the big spenders. How we can’t after the success klopp has delivered I’ll never know, he deserves better.

24.) 26 May 2023 12:50:54
@ Ecogsi, it shows they have no ambition or knowledge of players and there worth, rahter get 3 average players than 1 worldie.

17 Apr 2023 12:13:42
So from Klopps mouth, it is the owners who are setting the budget, they are why we are backing Bellingham into a corner, all the work done to get him to want the move and the owners shaft us, as i said last month, they promised Klopp the funds, then backed out when they saw we needed more, poor. I hope they are forced out asap.

1.) 17 Apr 2023 12:37:06
Just getting my popcorn for the triggered responses to this one.

2.) 17 Apr 2023 12:43:57
The Clubs in a mess.

3.) 17 Apr 2023 12:53:04
Do you have a link Lancaster?

4.) 17 Apr 2023 12:54:15
Or is it a case that the budget the owners ‘set’ did cover the transfer of Bellingham when klopp said he was more than happy with the midfield we had.
However klopp now realises more of the squad needs a revamp and that budget needs to be spread over a few different positions now?

5.) 17 Apr 2023 13:01:33
Yes but they are heroes who saved us thanks to the help of the John and Linda Foundation for Struggling Football CLubs. They built us a new stand using nothing but their own bare hands and pocket money. They also built us a brand new training ground that Axa definitely didn't contribute to, their name is only on their to raise awareness. No other Premier League club has a new training ground, this is completely unique to Woderfully Run Liverpool FC™. So on that basis it would be unfair for us to complain, Klopp usually gets everything he wants. Just like that time we were top of the league with no fit defenders, so they bought us two of the greatest centre-backs ever to grace the game: Ben Davies and Ozan Maldini.

6.) 17 Apr 2023 13:20:28
I don’t he said that the owners set the budget. He said the “budget is the budget”.

7.) 17 Apr 2023 13:22:55
His price has risen significantly amd ed002 makes a very good point. Klopp and liverpool have been warned, once again for tapping up, this time Bellingham’s father, pushing the price up. This is exactly what happened with VVD, the price was inflated, the club declared a written statement saying the interest in the player has ended and had to make a public apology to Southampton. The owners backed Klopp and he still got his man. I’m not saying this will happen again but maybe if Klopp had kept out of the ears of Bellingham’s father it might be a different situation.

8.) 17 Apr 2023 13:22:59
The owners are setting the budget? Who would've thought the people that own the club, set the budget for how much their business spends. Mind blowing.

9.) 17 Apr 2023 13:30:16
So Klopp said those exact words? how can you be surprised that the owners set some kind of budget?

10.) 17 Apr 2023 13:49:04
Klopp said the owners decide what we can spend and then the people at the club decide how we spend it.

FSG are not the reason if we don't sign Bellingham. The reason will be that the squad is in such a sorry state that we need to sign multiple players and have nobody worth decent money we want to sell.

It'll be the decision of Klopp, Lijnders, Ward, Hunter and Fallows not to sign Bellingham. You're beyond help if you think John Henry has called up Klopp and told him he can't sign Bellingham.

11.) 17 Apr 2023 13:54:07
Unless I’m mistaken, informally talking to a player’s agent over a potential move is within the rules. Liverpool/ Klopp are not allowed to speak to Bellingham directly but are allowed to ask his father if he’d be interested in joining the club. How Borussia Dortmund interpret that is up to them, but Klopp has done nothing wrong by trying to convince Bellingham’s father that Liverpool should be his next club.
Regarding the Bellingham situation, I believe Ed001 when he says that the recent media stories are simply stories. However, were they to be true the problem would 100% lie with the owners. The squad needs revamping and Bellingham is the ultimate player to begin that process. McAllister, Mount, Gallagher etc and all the other names mentioned don’t compare to the brilliance Bellingham would provide for the next 5-7 years. Further, if we don’t get Bellingham he’ll be off to one of the Manchester clubs, because he isn’t going to Real Madrid or PSG.
Pretending this is all Klopp’s fault (the general issue with midfield is 100% on Klopp and his staff, as well as those two clowns Edwards and Ward), is missing the overall point. The fans of FSG’s other franchises are very unhappy with the way their teams are being run, not just Liverpool fans.

{Ed077's Note - why would talking ng to Bellingham's father be within the rules. You stated yourself that talking to only the player's agents is OK. JB's father isn't a registered agent or a lawyer, so that wouldn't be within the rules. That is what I understand from reading Ed002's comments on the matter.

12.) 17 Apr 2023 14:05:44
I'm going to take a stab here. I imagine FSG would have an annual review of the clubs finances in which they talk about and set strategic goals, both financial and non financial, including a summer transfer budget. This would likely be down at the top level and then someone like Mike Gordon/ Billy Hogan would then be trusted to work within that set budget, thus further delegating.
From memory, I think LFC have a transfer committee which would then be included in the conversation of targets and a summer plan, I would imagine Klopp would have some sort of say in this and so on. I very much doubt FSG would have any involvement in who the money is spent on or what positions, they hire experts and pay them very well to make those types of decisions.

If rumours are to be believed, Klopp has been given anything from, £50m to £300m to spend this summer. My point being, none of us have an actual clue how much there is to spend or set what budget, so i guess all we can do is wait and see what happens during the window before we get the pitchforks out.

13.) 17 Apr 2023 14:15:25
On that, there seems to be a growing number of players father's being a bit too influential in their son's careers for my liking. Think Neymar was one of the first main examples but Haaland is another and now Bellingham. Hard to guage if they looking after their son's best interests or their own. Personally I think a few have seen the dollar signs.

14.) 17 Apr 2023 14:25:25
Who else would you expect to set the spending budget, the groundsman?

15.) 17 Apr 2023 14:38:49
From the way fsg have operated since taking us over I seem to remember that the money is their for the right type of players and profile and it’s never here you go Jurgen theirs 250 mill do you worst it’s more calculated than that and they have specific roles they want filling in the team and work within certain structure for the running of the club . So I don’t see it being a certain amount but given obviously their will be a max they can spend but I see it as if the right players are available and for the right kind of money and wage combined then we do business.

It wasn’t long ago we where lauded by fellow peers in the game as a model of how to run a football club .

That doesn’t change the players commitment and form do though .

16.) 17 Apr 2023 14:46:04
This isn’t a triggered response…. but yours is. You’ve taken how Klopp has described their model of working for years and twisted to suit your own vindictive vendetta against the owners.

Perhaps if Edwards, Ward and Klopp didn’t build such a bloated, injury prone squad that then fell off a cliff due to poor squad management and tactics, then the size of the rebuild wouldn’t have been seen as so great.

You’re being the child who is having a sad life because you’re not getting you’re Ferrari for Christmas.

17.) 17 Apr 2023 15:06:42
Well yeah obviously.
I’m pretty sure that’s how most football clubs are run.

18.) 17 Apr 2023 15:19:28
OP, I propose you watch the whole presser esP th embargoed version to get full context. Nothing Klopp said was out of the ordinary. Everyone knows that it is club ownership and CFO's, DOF's and all that who set the budget based on various varables and forecasts. It's what clubs do. No news broken there so not sure why you are acting as if the owners did something NOBODY has ever heard before.

We were never going to sign Jude cos BVB did NOT want to sell and if they were, they were asking too much money for him cos they did NOT want to sell him which is normal. Ed02 said Dortmund were asking too much to begin with BUT go ahead and blame the owners for what is common in football. 'Hope your protests goes on well and safely.

19.) 17 Apr 2023 15:25:06
I see it as collective failure/ success.

It's time the owners think seriously about whether they can sustain the ambitions of the football club given the shifting financial models eg state-ownership, multi-club ownership, future TV/ media prospects and global sports business prospects.

Likewise, the club (Hogan/ Gordon/ new SD/ Klopp) needs to decide on whether it's sporting ambitions, resources and recruitment strategy align with one another.

Thirdly, Klopp (and his coaching team) needs to decide on how he wants to play and be willing to make the compromises/ decisions needed to achieve that.

If FSG hang around for the next decade, then they should seriously be considering the multi-club model to derisk our currently failing recruitment strategy. Yes it is a type of cheating but quite frankly, football business writes its own rules.

If Klopp hangs around, he needs to make sure he has a good and balanced set of experts around him.

{Ed001's Note - the multi-club model has always been the plan.}

20.) 17 Apr 2023 15:35:36
It is the only way Liverpool can compete, Ed.

I saw that they had expressed interest in a stake at Corinthians but that didn't work out when R9 won out.

21.) 17 Apr 2023 14:10:16
Ed077 in this day and age you can identity as anything. So perhaps Bellingham’s dad Identified as his agent and Klopp identified as Pep Guardiola so technically Man City were tapping him up.

I hope they get the book thrown at them/ they for this.

{Ed077's Note - ?? in that case, I'm identifying myself as Jurgen Klopp and declaring interest and an imminent bid for Harry Maguire?

22.) 17 Apr 2023 14:17:29
Ed077 - If that were true then yes, Klopp would have overstepped. As far as I know, Bellingham’s father is his representative but again, I could be wrong.

{Ed077's Note - there is a registered agent working on the Bellingham transfer.

23.) 17 Apr 2023 14:46:10
That's correct, Ed077. Bellingham's father is not registered as his agent and hence, talking to him would amount to tapping up.

24.) 17 Apr 2023 15:52:40
Good and balanced post, FPF. Fully agree with what you have written. There has been multiple levels of failures that has led us to where we are now.

But personally, I think most of the blame has to be on Edwards and Ward. For supposedly being on a "sell to buy" model, we and have let a sizeable number of players leave on frees, players that could have been sold earlier regardless of how much they brought in. That, to me, is indicative of how incompetent Edwards and Ward were.

25.) 17 Apr 2023 16:31:30
Dracred, I see what you are saying and top post to FPF, for sure. The so called "sell to buy" model is a red herring, IMO cos many clubs do this. Now some clubs do it far more than others like LFC cos the revenue streams are not equal while others like Dortmund do it BUT sell to make huge profits as we have seen with Sancho and surely with Jude.

My beef (as is yours) lies mainly with Edwards/ Ward and Klopp. The squad management (which FSG have nothing to do with) has been dreadful and it took a long time to see it's adverse effects and we are seeing that now. The poor/ incompetent decisions of keeping players and trusting them too much (Klopp) and giving them big contracts on big wages to squad players (Edwards/ Ward) that made it tough for us to move. And even when the chance to let a few go, we priced Ox out of a move, kept Naby when a loan offer came along and did not sell Matip and keep his wages to promote Phillips, IMO. That's incompetence and unforced errors, not "sell to buy" cos we ain't even selling these to buy others. We're just keeping them for reasons NOBODY else can explain.

And to top it all, you can add the weird signing of Arthur (who Klopp did NOT even want) who's ONLY contribution is to celebrate with Pep at City when they scored against us on the touchline. That is NOT about "sell to buy". That is about poor planning over time that leads to bad decisions that have hamstrung us this season in part. Just my opinion, bro.

26.) 17 Apr 2023 17:00:11
Edwards has gone, ward is going so just Klopp to get out then for this mess.

Looking forward to seeing you at the next game protesting Klopp out. I hope it goes well and safely.

27.) 17 Apr 2023 17:27:42
Collective success/ failure comment landed then :)

28.) 17 Apr 2023 17:28:08
Still don't think I'll ever understand why Julian Ward wasted half of deadline negotiating an overpriced buy option we were never going to activate. Must have just done it for a laugh.

29.) 17 Apr 2023 20:23:54
Buy to sell is a red herring because we literally suck at it.

30.) 17 Apr 2023 20:28:56
I doubt they'll be forced out they didn't become billionaires by bowing to the crowd. They're here for the foreseeable future we will just have to get on with supporting the team.

22 Feb 2023 11:44:33
So again we have no players willing to attack the ball at set pieces, no talk on the pitch to keep players in position or pull them back to cover, many times Gomez, Trent and Robbo were chasing Madrid players back into their own half and leaving huge spaces, that is massively amateur, 2 half decent subs then Matip and Milner to try and change something , great depth, the team has zero shape to it, i'm not understanding why we are playing our old way when the personnel isn't there for it anymore, it needs changing, if the persistence is for the full backs to bomb on, we need to play 3 at the back or sit with a 2 midfield instead of the 1, i'm at a loss at to how we haven't replaced less than average players over the past couple of seasons, we are far away from what we were and i feel sorry for some of them as we have wasted Alisson, Virgil, Hendo, Trent, Mo by not building on the success of a few years ago, massive summer coming up.

1.) 22 Feb 2023 11:52:26
Lancaster, try using a full stop. I was knackered when I finished reading that!

2.) 22 Feb 2023 12:09:14
There's a million comma's, take a breath.

3.) 22 Feb 2023 12:11:37
Stream of consciousness style.

4.) 22 Feb 2023 13:59:23
There are a million commas. ?.

5.) 22 Feb 2023 14:39:15
Oh oh, the grammar police are out today?.

6.) 22 Feb 2023 15:04:49
Lighten up, Irish.

7.) 22 Feb 2023 15:55:34
It was just banter, Irish. You and I normally agree.

8.) 22 Feb 2023 16:07:14
Oh sorry, your attempt at humour? My bad!

9.) 22 Feb 2023 16:15:54
OP, same stuff you've always posted. Nothing new has been learned. Brilliant!

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------Sick of yoiu, your foul abouse and tedious posts------

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04 Jul 2023 10:38:12
Could do with Gerrard doing us a favour and taking players like Matip and Thiago for big fee's.

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28 Jun 2023 12:20:57
Klopps not away at all, he was at Axa along with a couple of legend players Carra and Thompson and a few others, lie i don't. Libelous, its a story shared from someone at the training ground, i won't share in future and you can keep your red tinted glasses on, some people.

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27 Jun 2023 12:53:11
a couple of ex players witnessed this too, one being David Thompson fyi.

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27 Jun 2023 12:52:36
Cant think of his name off top of my head, he isn't a yank but works for them.

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04 Jul 2023 11:04:00
United have a very unbalanced midfield, it's a strange signing if they only have limited funds (apparently but doubt it), im glad we went in the direction of Sloba, much more exciting.

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04 Jul 2023 11:00:15
Henderson needs to stay to keep the professionalism there and the standards, until Trent is ready to carry them on, it needs to get ingrained in them, Thiago, Fab and Matip are the key players to sell if Saudi come looking, i would be surprised if a massive bid for Salah doesn't arrive before July is out.

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30 Jun 2023 12:38:30
What money has been brought in the last 12 months too though MK, don't leave that out.

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29 Jun 2023 08:18:54
Youtube is a nightmare for player insight haha although supposed to highlight players ability it did nothing for Gravenberch, he looked awful.

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28 Jun 2023 15:50:07
Zed you seem happy that we get out spent by half the league and are falling away while the owners price us out of a sale, good for you, the ambition from you is class, not sure where being smug comes into it when people jumped on me first.