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30 Jan 2024 17:21:34
I called it earlier on in the season if Klopp was to go. It won't hit for a few years. Watching that man run into the middle of the pitch to celebrate with the fans.
Everyone's gone into acting like this isn't devastating and it's nothing to do with success.
I rekon we will go on fire with a new manager. I think it will all click!
But we have to lose klopp for it to take effect and that's a horrible cost.
Whatever happens next with this great club is because he came in and said he will turn us into beliefers.
I'm all for turning the kop into the KLOPP.
WHAT A MAN. what a journey. Devastated to say the least. His smile makes it all OK. I just think he's one of kind and a hero for this great city. Win or lose the rest of this season. It doesn't matter.
CORNER TAKEN QUICKLY. is enough for me.
At minimum just sing his name until your voice is gone.
It's down to that man why we have so much to cheer about. Why we have number 6 and could have been number 8.
We have number 19. And could/ would in any other season have 21.
It could be 20. And you know what JURGEN KLOPP HAS HAS PUT US BACK ON OUR PERCH!
God bless Jurgen Klopp. I think you're GREAT. . Thank you for everything.
1.) 31 Jan 2024 11:56:15
I thought nothing could top Istanbul but corner taken quickly must be annually relived because it always brings goosebumps. Its sunk in now that he will be gone although it still feels like a bad dream.
2.) 31 Jan 2024 14:38:28
Killed it right there, Humblekop. Bravo sir.
27 Nov 2023 19:11:03
Once the dm situation is resolved in Jan, then we will see mac have an impact like made, who couldn't do what he's doing with sar and bissouma behind him.
So imo macs doing a job. Not the job he's best at, nor the one we intend for him.
Soon to be sorted. All good on the reds front. YNWA.
1.) 27 Nov 2023 19:57:53
Humble, do you know who we are interested in cos I've been reading that Andre is off to Fulham?
2.) 27 Nov 2023 20:47:42
Douglas Luiz is another name touted doubt he will move mid season without it being big bucks.
3.) 27 Nov 2023 21:22:17
I too have heard that the Andre move has gone cold but not off . his price has gone up .
4.) 27 Nov 2023 21:39:26
The manager has said he is happy with our midfield in particular McAllister in the deepest role, personally i think he is better further up the pitch as almost a defensive number 10 or a combative 8. Just like we need a reliable right back and Left sided defender a specialist Defensive midfielder is crucial.
5.) 27 Nov 2023 21:56:00
@Humble what happens if we want to sign a particular player but his club doesn’t want to sell, or they ask for too much money or the player wants to go somewhere else? You seem pretty certain that the “situation” is going to be resolved?
6.) 28 Nov 2023 02:00:34
was thinking of all the midfielders in our team not named Endo or Bajcetic, the one I would play out of position at 6 would be Szobo. the guy can play anywhere in midfield and he has the engine and legs to fill the gaps we will have in the 6 position.
7.) 28 Nov 2023 06:52:48
@Faith
That is like playing Luka Modric in Mascherano s place
Today we have one problem, not having a DM. If we go by your theory we have two problems,
Not having a DM
playing your best player out of position ???.
8.) 28 Nov 2023 08:20:23
Steven Gerrard got played out of position many times.
It didn't seem to create a problem for him or the team the majority of the time.
It seemed to cause more issues with expert fans than anyone else.
9.) 28 Nov 2023 09:28:05
You don't need to be an expert to point out that playing a very good KDB in the holding role is a dumb move. The club splashed £17 mill on a DM and if the manager doesn't fancy him, then raise your eyebrows and challenge him instead of the posters.
if you have not learned a thing from Mc allister debacle then i rest my case.
10.) 28 Nov 2023 11:10:03
I thought my comment was obvious. Out of the options we have currently, I’d go with Szobo at 6 as he can do everything in midfield. Different conversation about we could sign or which of our CDMs (Endo, Baj) should actually start at CDM.
But given Klopp obviously doesn’t trust Endo nor see Trent in that role, then I’m saying we should put the Szobo square into that round hole!
11.) 28 Nov 2023 12:28:53
I might be completely wrong, but I have a feeling we haven't walked away from the Andre deal yet. Presumably it is the usual transfer dance we do - looking for the player to declare a desire to move to LFC before we start negotiating.
If interest in Andre has moved on, then perhaps Manu Kone could be a consideration. Some concerns about his injury record though.
Gabriel Moscardo at Corinthians is really young (18). Looks like a young Fabinho in terms of style. While it would be fun to bring another Brasilian youngster, I can't see it with Bajcetic (also 18) coming through in that position. Sounds like he's off to Chelsea or PSG anyway.
Feyenoord's Mats Wieffer is a name that has been popping up. I have not watched him so couldn't possibly comment.
22 Nov 2023 20:25:16
It's amazing how many games come down to the manager. Just read that in the 08/ 09 title charge we drew 11 games, lost the meagre by 4 points.
If you went back through those 11 games. I reckon there was a way. A way to get that extra goal.
Or there was a clear cut chance. POST. This games so in the moment. And sk important. It all matters.
We need to play like you don't get a point for a draw this season.
1.) 22 Nov 2023 21:19:35
or just more luck.
2.) 22 Nov 2023 21:23:07
Why is it more the manager than the players?
I’d say they take equal blame/ glory for game results.
3.) 22 Nov 2023 21:31:45
Yeah, why can't the players just kick the ball really hard into the net? How difficult can it be.
4.) 22 Nov 2023 21:36:48
Once the teams are on the pitch it's down to the players. The manager is effectively a spectator like the rest of us.
We're not going to win every game, nor score in every game.
Opposition also have to be taken into consideration.
5.) 22 Nov 2023 21:51:47
A lot of those games were frustrating 0-0 against beatable teams, especially at home.
That side just didn't show the urgency early enough at times and as amazing as that team was in some aspects, it was a counter attacking team.
I have some great memories of the Benitez years, that season in particular but with Torres missing a fair number of games and the squad ultimately lacking in any kind of depth, Liverpool came up short.
6.) 22 Nov 2023 23:25:01
It's a game of 2 halves. The team should go hard in both of them for the win every game.
Sometimes 4 I guess if there's extra time. Although technically with extra time being shorter they are not halves exactly. Each one is 20/ 120. Using my fraction calculations from primary school I guess they are 1/ 6s. But then the halves become 45/ 120. Or 9/ 25s. So in that case the players and the coach should go hard for both 9/ 25s and both 1/ 6s for the win.
Oh wait penalties. How long do they take usually?
Hang on. I ll get my calculator.
7.) 23 Nov 2023 00:00:36
Dave, that was class.
8.) 23 Nov 2023 07:17:28
Benitez was just too defensive as a manager, ultimately i think that was why we drew so many games. He excellent in some ways but always felt he too cautious.
9.) 23 Nov 2023 08:31:59
We did not had a proper deputy to Torres. Ngog is practically a dummy and Keane was a loose canon. That left us with no one. Had the best midfield in the world by some margin. We also did not had one proper winger. Kuyt and Riera are nothing like wingers and Benayoon is a mystry to me till now.
10.) 23 Nov 2023 08:53:15
The same thing happened, when I was a lad, back in 1932. We just never seem to learn do we or, then again, perhaps there are enough things to keep us occupied in 2023 rather than fret about things that happened 15 years ago that we can’t ever change.
11.) 23 Nov 2023 10:39:32
HumbleKop, I never thought at the time, that Utd were better than us in that season. Imagine drawing 11 games and missing out by 4 points. Seriously, we draw even half of those games and we win that title at a canter. And you can add the 13/ 14, 18/ 19 n 21/ 22 seasons to this, as well sadly. In these situations, it's the draws that kill you. Not hope.
Now is that always the manager's fault? That's a pretty myopic and shallow way to view this IMO and too easy of a conclusion to draw. There's a lot more that goes into such things. In that case, there is plenty of blame to go round, not just the manager. Just my take.
12.) 23 Nov 2023 14:01:18
Pretty sure that the reason we lost in 2009 was not because of the manager or the players. We were robbed of 3 points when Reina got beaten by a deflection off a fricken beach ball.
13.) 23 Nov 2023 16:53:23
Davey that was some old school Scott Steiner maths right there.
14.) 23 Nov 2023 18:11:17
HumbleKop, we don't need to play like we don't get a point for a draw this season. We just have to play as though, for every draw we drop 2 points!
15.) 23 Nov 2023 18:17:45
I didn't know that Kean was a free and easy living clergyman Harry.
21 Nov 2023 07:55:43
in my opinion we are back to the 18/ 19? Madrid first final. 3 players away.
So, this season will be fun. However, the next two transfer windows are make or break for the next 3 seasons. There's no room for error now. They all have too much money, pull, power, competitiveness and general offer that we can't wait.
There is 6 teams in the league who are just 3 players away. There's not that many players for us. We need specific players. So, like they have to have the right attitude. Be into hugs. Team player. Work horse. Good leader (no matter rhe age) . It's not just the skill we go after.
Point being Jan and the summer are serious. It's not a time to argue over 5 million. its time to spend 65 million on the world's best goal keeper.
But we are a champions league team. Minimum quarter finals with current league form and positio n
For example spurs would be 6th. they can't cope like we can and we don't have that for much longer.
We haven't got many of the cl finalists for long. So 2.0 is still going. Whilst success if demanded. Nothing can or will go wrong. YNWA
Anyway if you got this far, who do you want those 3 players to be? Where and why? How much and how good do you think they are or generally could be - hopefully the eds can weed out the good from the crud and compile a dream list of 3. All fun and games!
1.) 21 Nov 2023 11:47:16
@Humble - it’s not necessarily about spending big - it’s about the right player / person at the right price. The right price might be high but then again it might not.
2.) 21 Nov 2023 13:51:49
At the minute i think we are 2 top class players away from a title winning team. A cb and a defensive minded midfielder. as for who they are, at cb I not sure nobody realistic stands out to me. As regards midfielder rice or caicedo was my choice but again both gone, don't know anything about trinade or thuram or them guys that we have or have had interest in the past.
3.) 21 Nov 2023 16:49:35
You’re never going to get a complete team, there’s always going to be room for improvement, just the nature of the game.
I think our squad this year is actually quite capable of winning the title, especially if we are lucky with injuries and a million other different elements.
I think early doors though if we continue to play with the current tactics and formation then I would say LB/ LCB role could be upgraded as Robbo doesn’t look great there and maybe a Defensive midfielder. But if you looked at every team in history, even the ones that won it all you’ll always find weaknesses and players who could be upgraded.
4.) 21 Nov 2023 16:49:50
Would agree with you Digger. We're only a couple of players away from a complete squad and those positions you mention are the obvious ones.
For once, I have no suggestions for ideal candidates for these positions given it is not clear what our new system is.
5.) 21 Nov 2023 18:38:02
1985 - we had a complete team when we won the league in record time.
Crowd or not.
I agree with two at min. But think we need to pick one of gakpo or diaz and then sell and upgrade the other. Both are good enough to understood prime Mane. We need akither 15 goals from the front. imo.
6.) 21 Nov 2023 20:26:04
@Mikey, imho, the best team in the world isn’t made up of the best player in the world in each position.
It’s a bit like the old interview with the Beatles when they got asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world and one of them - I think it was George - said he wasn’t even the best drummer in the band. Ringo was nowhere near the best drummer in the world but him being in the Beatles was a significant contribution to the Beatles being the best band in the world.
7.) 21 Nov 2023 23:26:27
I hate this make or break clap trap.
This must be a Netflix generation thing that has infiltrated all level of football fan. Snap ya fingers and get what you want = happy. Don’t get it = doomsday
Anyways, I’m pulling for Baj. Young fullah right under our nose that has a bright future.
8.) 22 Nov 2023 09:40:53
HumbleKop like Flash said, this whole "make or break" stuff is unhelpful. that is just adding fuel to a narrative of like, "We have to act now or else. ". Or else what, exactly? What's going to happen if we don't? Leave that stuff to the side, man cos again, it is not helpful. Also, the club will do what they are going to do in spite of this narrative so in the end, it is useless. We are in a rebuild so let's take it phase by phase, shall we?
Now for me, spending big is not a thing and we do not engage in such things. Utd is who you want to go to if you are looking for clubs in the PL who just "spend big". For LFC, it's about spending on the right players who fit what we want to do and achieve, end of story. And if it means spending big IF/ WHEN indeed a deal can be worked out like the 115m we were ready to splash on Caicedo just a couple or months ago then, they will do that. That is the way we roll and it has worked and continues to work for us so far. Long may that continue.
9.) 22 Nov 2023 20:10:33
Well it's your own opinion. But if city, Chelsea, spurs, arsenal and the likes of Newcastle and villa keep spending and adding.
We are there now. There all going into the market is my point so it's unlikely our targets will remain available. Plus we have a specific list of players, not your average Joe's. So, I'm just saying its now for what we want. Which judging by the summer, looks like we will have a very good list lined up again. Similar to the fab, vvd and allison trio. After losing the cl. Aside from vvd. Be a shame to lose for a few million when the team just needs tweaking, like it does, this team is going far. In everything. As it is. Jo doubt. It's just thinking ahead. But you're right to enjoy the moment.
But one cb. Defo.
A dm. Defo.
Lw. Imo.
14 Nov 2023 19:02:57
18/19. We lost 1. City lost 4. City won the league.
We just drew double. Mad how wins and loses vary, better than wins, loses and draws.
Even now. We have lost 1 and city 2 and we are second.
We have to turn those draws into wins. Even losing a couple doesn't hurt as much as then actual draw.
Like playing as though you don't get a point for a draw. You just lose 2. Which is true.
1.) 14 Nov 2023 19:50:50
Absolutely spot on…. exactly the same as when Rafa came close, we lost less games than United but drew more.
2.) 14 Nov 2023 20:13:14
Rather get smashed 6-0 and win the next game 1-0.
Than draw 2 games in a row. 3 points is better than 2
You could technically have an invincible season and get relegated with 38 points.
3.) 14 Nov 2023 22:00:02
Points win prizes.
4.) 15 Nov 2023 01:04:28
I had the exact thoughts as Humble just today!
This season, we've been so close to being top of the league already and have had various circumstances conspire against us to not be No. 1. I know it's November, and nobody wins anything in November, etcetera, but what a difference the next game will make in terms of the belief and mentality of the boys going into the December rush!
5.) 15 Nov 2023 11:39:01
Spot on, LiverpoolFC8. It's the draws that kill you at the end of the day Even in 13/ 14, a lot of people talk about Stevie's mistake or in 18/ 19 about the game at the Emptyhad forgetting all the needless draws we had during both seasons that cost us. You can add the 11 draws (22 points dropped) in 08/ 09 which killed our title charge under Rafa and finished 4 point less that Utd who won. Again, the draws will kill you at the end, not hope or anything else.
Same with 21/ 22, we lost 10 points from winning positions and lost away at Leicester in a game where we should have won by 4 goals with Salah missing a pen. 13 points dropped, right there. Again, we did not win these titles cos we did not handle what was actually under our control.
Ironically, the ONLY time we handled our business from jump was in 19/ 20 and what happened? We strolled the league and set numerous records including winning the title with 7 games to spare. A record that will take a while to be met or broken.
11 Sep 2023 21:31:44
De zerbi if still available.
08 Sep 2023 21:04:40
Mad to think there was a time when we couldn't sign Gareth Barry for 12 million.
Now we are dropping 60 mils on world class talent like sboz.
08 Sep 2023 19:48:18
Bellingham wouldn't have played upfront for us and as such not done what he's doing for a Madrid.
He is doing something entirely different over there. Also there's more speed than La liga as well.
Genuinely believe we got the right player for us and Bellingham went to the right club for him.
We'll compare in the 24/ 25 CL final.
01 Sep 2023 15:03:36
It could be a breathe of fresh air when we do bits this season and can say to the other fans look at our net spend. Delicious.
Sometimes it's time. We don't even play how we need to anymore. To get the best out of Mo. He's better getting in behind than be is one on one.
It's certainly not Mane firmino Salah (prime) . Sad but true. People forget how insanely good they were. We had defenders changing undies at half time. Game after game.
They made Pep create the greatest ever team. Lived in his went free. Champions league etc etc.
I'd go for it and just release ourselves from the burden. Promote elliot or play szob on the right.
Or nunez gakpo diaz.
01 Sep 2023 14:58:46
Brennan Johnson.
28 Nov 2023 12:02:51
It's amazing isn't it how our expectations change when money is involved.
I guaranteed if I was running two marathons a week. Everyone would hear about it.
It's only the wages their on which make it acceptable to not take notice of the work they do, because they get paid well enough.
He's just knackered. Plays a cm for Liverpool and Hungary. Also captain there. Under enormous pressure. New team etc.
He's going to be the best midfielder we have had in a very long time.
He's 22.
If we kept him until 28. We could have the de bryune of w9rld football. imo.
Try not to get to fixed looking week to week.
He's unreal. Just normal.
27 Nov 2023 16:07:27
Just put him in midfield now and switch the system to the lb.
Gomez rb (in a 3 with konate and vvd) . Kostas or robbo in trents role. Trent in Midfield as a starter.
Not to much should be lost or changed. Could work.
22 Nov 2023 20:10:33
Well it's your own opinion. But if city, Chelsea, spurs, arsenal and the likes of Newcastle and villa keep spending and adding.
We are there now. There all going into the market is my point so it's unlikely our targets will remain available. Plus we have a specific list of players, not your average Joe's. So, I'm just saying its now for what we want. Which judging by the summer, looks like we will have a very good list lined up again. Similar to the fab, vvd and allison trio. After losing the cl. Aside from vvd. Be a shame to lose for a few million when the team just needs tweaking, like it does, this team is going far. In everything. As it is. Jo doubt. It's just thinking ahead. But you're right to enjoy the moment.
But one cb. Defo.
A dm. Defo.
Lw. Imo.
21 Nov 2023 18:38:02
1985 - we had a complete team when we won the league in record time.
Crowd or not.
I agree with two at min. But think we need to pick one of gakpo or diaz and then sell and upgrade the other. Both are good enough to understood prime Mane. We need akither 15 goals from the front. imo.
02 Nov 2023 22:25:36
Quansah. Matip. Konate. Gomez. Vvd.
Not too shabby.