29 Mar 2023 18:58:50
A footballer can get an injury that finishes his career fir ever with one innocent tackle. I know of a few under 18 players who picked up a stupid injury but that injury was enough to finish their career. Players train every day and have diet plans they have to stick to and can get dropped by their club at any stage. There are limited numbers that can play at any time so they need to be super fit. If your a plumber you can do that job for 40 years, with no threat of injuries and hey you might not be paid the same but you can enjoy life just as much.

{Ed025's Note - what a load of tosh, either a plumber on £30k a year or a mo salah on £350k per week....let me think?...oh yeah i will choose the latter and have a working life of 15 years then retire to my yacht off a caribbean island, instead of being a plumber who has a 4 day holiday in a caravan in robin hood camp every 2 years..

1.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 19:48:44
Lionel Messi dreams of becoming a plumber when he retires.

{Ed025's Note - well hes made a good start thunderbird...hes already the biggest shirthouse in football mate..

2.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 20:24:03
I'll have nothing said against Robin Hood camp. except for the lack of a guard rail on their helter-skelter in 1982, which resulted in a 10-foot fall and a broken wrist. for yours truly. Otherwise 8/ 10.

3.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 20:58:18
Wow that first post really is wild and incredibly out of touch, what an odd comparison to make, especially to say plumbers or any tradesmen for that matter don't have any injuries. Most lads at that age after 30-40+ years working are struggling to walk, hell even people sat on their arse in an office end up with a bad back.

You can try and make the argument being a footballer is a tough job and some people might agree, but please not compare earning tens or hundreds of thousands a week to the real world.

{Ed025's Note - spot on AAR91..

4.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 21:23:58
Unless you come from a long line of plumbers dating back hundreds of years… and your surname is Plumber…. and it was your dads dream for you to become a plumber… and your sole mission in life is living up to your dads plumbing legacy seeing as he won plumber of the year 20 years on the bounce… that aside, I cannot logically understand anyone that would choose plumbing over being a footballer. even with the ‘dangers’ it poses.

5.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 21:27:39
I take it always red has never had a hard days work in his life, coz if he did, he wouldn't be saying that.

6.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 22:38:34
Do footballers have a lot of dedication to keep themselves fit? Yes 100% but they also turn up for 180 mins a week (some weeks 90!) and then the training in between. I would wager a guess that if I had that much spare time I would be happy to spend some time in a gym. Footballers have a far easier life then those on the tools.

If given a choice between grafting 40-50 hours a week for 30k or earning 350k a week to be a pro footballer, I'd be dropping that plunger quicker then you can say Mo Salah!

7.) 29 Mar 2023
29 Mar 2023 22:26:48
I agree thunderbird, when messi retires, he'll grow a little moustache, don some red overalls and a cap, then off he goes fulfilling his lifelong plumbing dream.

Dun dun dun, du du du du dun dun, dun dun.

8.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 04:04:44
Paul Merson reckons being a plumber is harder than being a surgeon! Being a footballer is bloody easy. The money they earn is beyond a joke for what they do! Im sure it comes with it's challenges but try being a doctor or nurse working 70 + hours a week for next to nothing! The money in football has pretty much ruined the game.

9.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 04:55:26
Being a footballer is easy.
Don’t think I’ve read any more load of rubbish trash piece of crap ever in my life.

10.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 05:16:21
I'm sure being a footballer comes with its own set of challenges that we as regular folk will never experience and can never relate to. Although, from the outside looking in, they do seem to have it good, without ever having to worry about money, a luxury that many of us here would love to have. Still, not for me to say that their job is easier than mine.

11.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 09:17:15
Or you can just play for a Sean Dyche team and be a footballer and a plumber at the same time.

12.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 09:17:23
A plumber is absolutely working harder than a footballer and is absolutely more valuable to society. But I don't back that up with how I spend my money. My toilet takes 2 flushes to clear and my stupid design tap shoots water across the bathroom, but I've been putting off getting a plumber in for 12 months because it'll cost about £100. In that same time frame I've bought 2 Liverpool shirts at about £50 a pop, a whole host of LFC merchandise around Christmas and also paid about £80 a month for Sky, BT and Prime.

So I'm a hypocrite until i put my money where my mouth is. We all are. Sadly society rewards how much you're worth to the business profit/ how hard you are to replace, rather than rewarding your value to society/ how hard you work. That's just Capitalism! You often see the same argument about Nurses but how many people want to pay £1000 a year to use the NHS? I get annoyed if the hospital car park is more than £1 an hour even though I'm literally seeing a surgeon who did 7 years in university for free. When you think about whether your actions back up your words you realise that we're all responsible for footballers salaries. How many of you are posting 10 times a day on an NHS-rumours site?

Ultimately we can all live without football but until we vote with our wallets nothing's going to change. I refrain from moaning about their salaries because I'm not actually doing anything about it. It's best to just detach normal reality from celebrity/ sport culture. Sometimes your moral compass is only any good for stressing you out!

13.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 14:23:04
Christ MK, how dare you speak sense on this site.

I would much rather you blame the Nurses salary on Klopps loyalty to Jordan Henderson.

14.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 17:43:03
I don’t begrudge pro footballers their salaries, they entertain millions and are some of the most admired people on earth. Many also grew up in abject poverty, and without football would still be there. I also don’t subscribe to the argument about social value. When you are sick, a doctor is obviously worth far more to you than a footballer, but becoming a Premier League footballer is MUCH harder than becoming a doctor, and that’s all there is to it.
However, footballers, ignoring personal circumstances that affect us all, lead far easier lives than most of us.

{Ed025's Note - but a doctor is on about £80,000 a year lowe and save lives, some of these top footballers are on nearly half a million a week mate, if a doctor or surgeon make a mistake then they have a good chance of being struck off and lose their livelihood, a footballer gets put on the bench or transferred but still gets paid, for me most of them are massively overpaid prima-donnas who are not in the real world and a lot of the time act like big time charlies, so yes i do begrudge them amazingly high salaries..

15.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 18:46:04
Well it’s a lot easier than what we have to do faithworks mate.

16.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 19:25:49
Agree Ed025 spot on. Football is entertainment - it’s something that the world can live without. Try removing, for example, doctors and nurses, undertakers (in the 1970’s when everyone was - rightly - on strike there were headlines in the Echo about where they could store the corpses, sanitation workers, bus an train workers … wages are what they are but you can’t help but think that for elite sports players and members of the acting profession they are excessive.

{Ed025's Note - its the conservative dream WDW, keep the working man (or woman) down and reward the rich, i dont want this to sound political but i cant stand the way the privileged get treated ahead of the ordinary guy in the street, and the proof is there for everyone to see, you only have to look at the entertainment industry and people like saville, harris, oj simpson etc who used their wealth to live a life of debauchery and went unchallenged because of their wealth and status, and together with sportspeople like rooney, giggs, barton, greenwood, mendy etc who abused their status and station to commit crimes and get away with them, i call it the "do you know who i am" society mate, it also pertains to business as well like man city who have fiddled the books and cheated for years because the can pay a lawyer millions to find loopholes in the law, i just give up with it all now..

17.) 30 Mar 2023
30 Mar 2023 21:39:13
Let’s think, Iv worked my ass since before I could legally start work, in that time Iv delivered newspapers, served burgers, served in the military, collected debts then educated and trained myself with 2 degrees to become a H&S/ Quality and Environmental manager for a top UK company, all this over the course of about 20 years. Still if I make a mistake in my job people die and along with that guilt I’ll lose everything I’ve worked for to support myself my wife and two kids. In that time Iv probably earned less than a prem footballer does in a single year. So yeah, I’d take the relative ‘risk’ and ‘hard work’ of being a footballer. Love a challenge me ??‍♂️.

18.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 01:19:55
Living through the miners strikes and mass labour disruptions of the 70s and 80s, I would never have thought that politicians could get away with what they have done for the past 15 years or so and there not be mass demonstrations and riots.
The old standards have bee; torn up. If you get caught, just throw a dead cat on the table until people forget, or pretend an innocuous curry is equivalent to late night parties, vomit, suitcases full of booze and broken kids swings.
But not to worry, uncle Rupert, viscount Rothermere and the Barclays brothers will get you out of it. The bbc will be too scared to ask real questions, the mail will serve up more vomit, and the plebs will doff their caps and tug their forelocks and back to work we go.
Anyway, I’m going for 2 all v city.

19.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 05:12:22
I’m heading off from Liverpool banter, so will just add one last thing. For me Alan Bleasdale summed up the pain and suffering like it was (and is) with The Boys From The Blackstuff. You look at what’s happened since Attila The Hen was in charge and it really does make you want to cry. 2023, Ronaldo, as an example earning literally hundreds of millions as a basic wage and decent hard working people having to resort to using foodbanks. Yes I know that’s not the footballers’ fault but it does say that the way society is being run is a f**king disgrace.

Rant over, back to hoping some maga rich Arab state buys us and we can shell out £ 300 million on Bellingham, Rice and Gvardiol.

20.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 04:37:26
Plumber on 30k a year? You must know some pretty underpaid plumbers Ed lol.

{Ed025's Note - i was talking about mates rates there FMS.. :)

21.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 07:08:15
Gis a job WDW2.

22.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 21:16:47
The Great Tom Finney used to work Saturday morning as a Plumber by trade when it was part of a compulsory working week (44 hours), and then played Saturday afternoon as well for Preston Both Ends!

Six of us (all lads) went to the Robin hood Camp in 1973 aged 18, we had no sugar one day, so the caravan right next to us was all girls from St Helens similar ages, the girl who the lad first asked for some sugar, her first words to him were " i don't like Scousers".

They are still happily married after 50 years with loads of children and grand children, living in St Helens!

23.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 21:45:08
Football generates that kind of money. Id rather players get the big wages than the owners keep it for themselves.

24.) 31 Mar 2023
31 Mar 2023 22:40:16
“Shake hands” @Burkey.

25.) 01 Apr 2023
01 Apr 2023 01:30:49
WDW2, I'm with you on that.
I try to console myself with the 'facts' that Thatcher was stabbed in the front by her own party, died miserably because of that and was too partial to a drink because of it.
Meanwhile, King Arthur is still going and a cult hero.
Never forgive, never forget.