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31 Dec 2022 10:38:30
I saw someone mention Joao Gomes of Flamengo (DM) the other day and another club was looking at him. WHich club? I've had a good look and can't see. I know he's been linked with us on various media sites (no smoke without fire - but then they all lie for hits on their sites) . He is potentially a very good pressing and creative midfielder.

{Ed002's Note - Bayer Leverkusen.}

1.) 31 Dec 2022 12:25:14
Can we swap him for Joe Gomes? ?.

2.) 31 Dec 2022 12:38:09
The coach at Leverkusen knows his midfield onions.



23 Mar 2020 12:14:08
Sky gossip column says we're looking at Malick Thiaw, Schalke 04 CB. Apparently he's dubbed as the 'new Joel Matip'.
I needed some humour this morning.

{Ed002's Note - Malick Thiaw (CB) now 18 Schalke are looking to a new contract and a loan to get him some experience and hopefully get the rough edges removed. VfL Bochum may provide an opportunity to him.}




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28 Jan 2024 18:34:44
Alonso has taken an average team to the top of the Bundesliga, a notoriously easy league to win if you're Bayern Munich. The season isn't over yet, Bayern are catching up, he's won nothing yet.

I'm not saying I wouldn't want him, but he's only been managing for 18 months so the jury is out with regard to his long-term ability as it stands.

1.) 28 Jan 2024 19:27:35
A short, but so far brilliant coaching career. And anyone is going to be a gamble compared to klopp.

2.) 28 Jan 2024 19:51:44
Life moves fast especially as a manager.

This time last year Arteta was getting lots of praise as his Arsenal side were top of the league and heading towards the title. He was even getting praised on here. A few months later he was a bottler and had won nothing.

I’ll be honest I know nothing of Alonso as a manager but l what a player he was for us. Most fans on here appear to have thrown all of their eggs into one basket like they did with Bellingham.

Whoever FSG bring in will get my backing and whoever FSG bring in will have huge shoes to fill.

3.) 28 Jan 2024 19:59:10
My take is this. I believe that Xabi Alonso is going to be a top coach. I believe he will be an even better coach with a few more years of experience. Provided nothing happens, he will manage Liverpool, Real Madrid and maybe even Bayern.

If he joins us now, we will have Real sniffing around for years until he eventually joins after 4 or 5 years and they will get Alonso's peak years of management. They will keep him for a maximum of 4 years before discarding him over potentially nothing or unrealistic expectations because that is how that club is run.

If we let him go to Real first, I believe we will get a better, more experienced manager, we won't have to wait too long for him as they get through managers like underwear and we won't have them lurking in the background trying to entice him. That means we could have him for the long haul, similar to Guardiola at City.

That's just how I see it potentially playing out anyway.

4.) 28 Jan 2024 20:02:27
He’s done very well but sometimes you just get a perfect storm and just get lucky in management. The trick is to do it for a long period of time and make changes to keep you at the top.

That being said there really isn’t any other manager I would want right now so I say give him a go if he’s willing to take the job.

Anyone is going to be a step down after Klopp.

5.) 28 Jan 2024 20:43:37
But what does Alonso want, I Assume that there has been quite a few phone calls made in the last couple of weeks . so some progress has been made, only we don't know just yet .

6.) 28 Jan 2024 21:05:09
Spot on, Beckers pecker. All you have said and the possibilities about things being a perfect storm are all valid points to consider. That being said, Xabi still has to coach the team and get the best out of the players he found there or signed to make it work.

Is he overachieving? Of course BUT that is the only way Leverkusen or any other German club can actually achieve anything tangible with the Mastadon called Bayern aout here in these streets of the Bundesliga. that's it so for me, Xabi is the only guy I see out there that is a good fit for us as a club cos he plays good footie which fits with the way he play and he played here and won here and is a club legend. Seriously and this is not towards you BUT what's not to like?

7.) 28 Jan 2024 22:54:39
Souness actually makes a great point. Says that the majority of manager jobs that come up are because managers are sacked so clubs are in disarray or underperforming.

We are the total opposite of that and if anything we should be extremely attractive to 99% of managers out there. They should be knocking our door down for an interview over us going to them.

On a seperate note rumours are going round that Arteta has now told Arsenal his plans to leave at the end of the season also.

8.) 29 Jan 2024 00:55:23
Sky are reporting Arteta has no plans to leave JK but I do wonder if Barcelona really push for him would he go? I think he probably will.

9.) 29 Jan 2024 05:52:13
Like Bakedbeanboy said, Alonso is still new to the whole managerial thing.

He needs a few more years, most of which should be his team challenging for the title in whatever league it may be, before he joins us.

Liverpool is not a normal run of the mill club. It comes with higher than normal expectations, higher then normal pressure, higher tan normal egos

Klopp went through relegation, to a title winning Dortmund, a title challenging Dortmund, rebuilt the Dortmund squad continuously, dealt with big egos, and so much more before he became our manager.

Alonso has not had to deal with all of that as yet.

We need a manager who has been through all the ups and downs, and who knows how to manage egos as well

How many of these coaches are out there is another story.

10.) 29 Jan 2024 06:14:56
I'd like to think Klopp has done a good job of not having massive, disruptive egos in the squad. I'd hope this example is one that any future manager would be clearly aware of.
Therefore, I don't worry about Alonso's lack of experience. He understands the pressure of the club and it's expectations.
If there was an experienced, quality manager available, then sure, give Alonso more time. But, I'd prefer to support him with a quality DOF and hope he'd being continued success.
He has his team playing entertaining football and has voiced his wish to manage us. I think that's pretty important.

11.) 29 Jan 2024 06:45:51
Also, Xabi has worked under Rafa, Jose, Pep and Ancelotti. There's experience in itself.

12.) 29 Jan 2024 09:01:18
Spot on, Burkeyboy.

13.) 29 Jan 2024 09:04:32
Alonso is using against the grain tactics, formations and is a clearly good to get it working so quickly. Yes he's untested long term, and that test when come when he starts getting found out and needs to adapt, but there are not many top managers around at the minute so we need to take a punt on the some of the best up and comers. Yeah he might be a Rodgers-esc false dawn but he might be the next Klopp. Only one way to find out!

14.) 29 Jan 2024 10:53:39
The difference between Alonso and Rodgers is that he’s been there and got the medals so can back himself up. World Cup winner, European Championship winner, European Cup winner, league champion in more than one country, his CV demands respect, players will look up to him. The bloke is a leader. He speaks multiple languages, his ideas on the game are sound. I genuinely don’t see a better choice out there.

15.) 29 Jan 2024 16:44:20
ViktorVaughan, the big diff. for me btw Xabi and BR on a human level, IMO. The thing is that you can see how humble and respectful Xabi is and how he seems really all about the team and how humble he is to be this successful at the very start of his coaching career.

BR was and is the complete opposite on a human level. His arrogance, hubris and misplaced pride and desire to be recognised knows no bounds.

16.) 29 Jan 2024 16:45:29
The manager of Liverpool FC needs to be a tactical genius with the diplomatic skills of an UN Ambassador representing Liverpool.

I honestly believe we need a manager who has experienced the highs and lows of management and are excellent communicators.

On the footie side, I would say Emery or De Zerbie. On the communication front, I have no idea.

No rant, just some somber thoughts.

17.) 29 Jan 2024 23:30:24
I'm solidly in the Xabi camp, but regards experience being a negative, king Kenny did ok with far less, as others have said he's played under some of the best managers in the the top leagues in Europe.



27 Jan 2024 22:57:36
The worry with Klopp, Ljinders etc all going, how many players will want to leave too?

1.) 27 Jan 2024 23:09:38
I don’t see a mass exodus in all honesty. I think Thiago and Matip are practically gone. Phillips will likely leave, apart from that maybe Salah. why would others want to leave?

2.) 27 Jan 2024 23:20:14
Why is Matos leaving, Eds?

Do you believe that Trent may consider his options now, with his contract running down? Will this affect Salah's or Virgil's renewal?

It does feel like the end of an era is looming, in more ways than one.

{Ed002's Note - I am surprised the club wished to go down the route of saying something when continuity would perhaps be something they wish to negotiate. It is unclear how it will impact the players.}

3.) 28 Jan 2024 04:07:00
I can't see players wanting to leave unless the next manager is unlikable or controversial. Higher wages elsewhere can be tempting but there's only a handful of teams who compare with Liverpool in terms of prestige. We are a youngish team currently on top of the best league in the world. The immediate future looks bright for players as well as fans.

4.) 28 Jan 2024 07:54:13
I think a lot depends on a few things like how much success we have this season for one. If we win a trophy or two, I can't imagine a lot of players wanting to leave a successful team.
Secondly, the managerial appointment will likely have a big effect. If we bring in someone the players wat or a 'big name' etc, that could encourage them to stay on too.

5.) 28 Jan 2024 08:19:18
Don’t be so naive, many players sign and leave due to the influence of a manager. Liverpool are no different.

6.) 28 Jan 2024 08:51:55
Bakedbeanboy, I don't see that happeneing or at least not yet. These guys are professionals and they love playing for the club and the fans and yeah, losing Klopp is a big blow but I fully expect that the veteran players will not just jump ship cos of that. I just don't see it.

7.) 28 Jan 2024 09:27:20
In my 40 plus years of supporting Liverpool I can’t remeremember too many players moving on because a manager left, can you Leek ?.

8.) 28 Jan 2024 09:37:07
This time last year we would have all bet our houses on Hendo our leader not jumping ship.

He had less resilience than the Utd defence when an offer came in.

9.) 28 Jan 2024 10:44:16
Phil Neale left shortly after Kenny was appointed first time round I believe.
Apparently he wanted the job himself ?‍♂️.

10.) 28 Jan 2024 11:10:24
Irish that’s very true mate.

Not many players move on because a manager leaves but plenty move on when a new manager joins.



25 Jan 2024 08:21:52
Will Gomez score this season?

Let's have a poll (heads not hearts)

{Ed033's Note -

Gomez score poll

1.) 25 Jan 2024 09:23:58
You'd assume that he's been instructed to do it by Klopp, rather than just because Joe Gomez scoring a goal has become quite the talking point, but I do get a bit frustrated when a defender with zero pedigree for cracking in long range goals is frequently letting off shots from 25+ yards on the angle. Seems like a very very low percentage option that usually results in giving away possession from a good position in the opposition third.

I'd love a Gomez goal as much as anyone but, on balance, I'd rather he roll it out to Diaz or Nunez to have a run at the full back or play it infield to Mac Allister, Jones or Trent to try to find a through ball or have a shot themselves, or to look for a through ball into one of Jota's runs.

2.) 25 Jan 2024 09:40:45
I'm sure City fans were all saying the same when Vincent Kompany lined his strike up against Leicester, and look what that ultimately led to.

So long as we ultimately win the game, let just try and get his radar in.

3.) 25 Jan 2024 10:39:15
Let the lad take a penalty.

4.) 25 Jan 2024 10:45:55
And I’m sure Gomez won’t be instructed too if the coaches don’t think he has it in him to strike one well. I also don’t think he’s doing it unnecessarily. I actually like that here and there we are popping long shots and scoring. For quite awhile we didn’t have this aspect to our game and teams park the buses deep and tight as we will keep trying to pass our way through. But now they we have people that can score from distance and do try, I do believe it adds more to our game.

5.) 25 Jan 2024 11:37:18
I suspect at some point before the end of the season one of his long range efforts is going to fly in.
I'd put money on it that Klopp et al are fully encouraging him to have a crack or two per game as well.
And why shouldn't he?

6.) 25 Jan 2024 11:48:43
OP, can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket. Just saying.

7.) 25 Jan 2024 12:39:26
Winning penalty in the upcoming cup final!

8.) 25 Jan 2024 13:22:58
To be fair, he hasn’t been a million miles away with his shots. Joe obviously has it in his locker to score from distance so if defences are going to give him the space then why not?

9.) 25 Jan 2024 14:51:57
I think with Robbo coming back and Konate and VVD being the starting CB partnership, Joe might sadly be on the bench a bit more in the future. No doubt we may have injuries for him to come in, rotational opportunities and also the europa league, but less playing time will reduce the chance he scores.

10.) 25 Jan 2024 15:00:56
Definitely has it in his locker, scores some rockets in training.

11.) 25 Jan 2024 15:05:24
There is a video on YouTube showing some of the squad taking free kicks in training - it's from about 4 years ago but JG hits some tasty shots, although you never know how many attempts were made. Search 'liverpool free kick challenge' and it should come up.

12.) 25 Jan 2024 17:42:50
Everton back 4 to all score before Gomez.

13.) 25 Jan 2024 18:59:05
Good to keep the opposition defence guessing what he’ll do.

14.) 25 Jan 2024 22:14:37
Many years ago in a All Blacks v Wallabies game the Kiwis invited every attending kiwi fan to wear all black clothing in what was called the Blackout game, i know Joe will appreciate it and this will definitely help him score if we all grew a Gomez beard for the City match because he is scoring against City oh yes he is….
44 days till kickoff…
Average time to grow a beard 2 / 4 months….
Klopp is leading by example so don’t let the big guy down….

15.) 26 Jan 2024 00:33:48
He's going to end up scoring an absolute screamer. Can't wait to see him score but until then I'll keep enjoying what he does on the pitch, the lad is pure quality.

Speaking of Gomez, does square tomato still post?

16.) 26 Jan 2024 00:00:18
yeah but if you consider the shots he's taken, it's not like in that moment there were other fantastic opportunities that he gave up just to get his shot off. And ultimately, we want our defenders to be a threat and vary the attack. He's less than a shot a game which I would not qualify that as "frequently" at all.

17.) 26 Jan 2024 08:00:17
He can shoot all he wants as long as we are 4-0 up and doesn’t cost us points or alternatively give him a penalty if we are 4-0 up.

18.) 26 Jan 2024 09:41:28
JLC, and Im sure Everton would make up a trophy for that achievement, should it happen.



08 Jan 2024 09:08:52
See Hendo as well as Bobby want out of Saudi. That aged well. I suppose a conservative estimate of his earnings in that time - about 6 million - isn't too shabby. Probably has a nice tan too. Maybe a return to SAFC to help their youngsters?



12 Nov 2023 07:02:49
NicolBecker Glory (or anyone else), why don't you tell us who you think is currently unknown and is a 'baller' and see if they make it, then come back here in a couple of years and gloat?
It's fine to say in retrospect that you thought Henry and Salah were good before they were known about.

1.) 12 Nov 2023 11:10:50
25 should be the new young benchmark for me. The obession with signing players who are good when they are still little kids is really annoying look how many of the players got given too much at 19-20 and then stop trying and/ or are given way too many minutes when they are still developing physically and therefore suffer multiple injuries that ruin their career before physical peak. The real top top proffessionals in the modern day can be playing till 36-37 realistically. Not exactly what OP was getting at and sure we all still love an exciting young player and if they too have the right guidance and are looked after properly then its all good but I don't know it just entered my mind so wanted to post it. As a side note I work in an industry where the company hires a new wave of 16 year olds every year for casual work and these kids are getting crazier and more immature every single time.

2.) 12 Nov 2023 11:51:07
The guy is a troll. His posts seem very similar to someone who posts on the United page. Just ignore him mate.

3.) 12 Nov 2023 12:39:31
You might have to wait for 20 years to find out OP.




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30 Jan 2024 12:36:22
Alonso has been a manager for 18 months. He hasn't won anything yet, the season isn't over. He looks good in a league that usually only 1 team has a chance of winning.



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29 Dec 2023 13:44:26
Al-Ahli average attendance this season is 17184, not 600. That said, their ground holds 62354, so two-thirds empty, isn't very wholesome.

Al-Ettifaq (Gerrard; Henderson; Wijnaldum) is just as bad. Ground holds 35000 and average attendance is 7854, so 60% empty most of the time. It's a joke, that I'm sure won't bother those going there because of the salaries.

I bet executions get more attendees.



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19 Dec 2023 07:40:29
2 lads in the cafe, the most reputable source.



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08 Dec 2023 13:57:44
The same Micky van de Ven who's missed 22 matches/ 131 days in the last 18 months? The same Micky van de Ven who has a bang average 6.7 rating since joining Spurs?




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08 Jun 2023 18:37:40
The sportswashing/ Real issue isn't really on anyone's radar because most of us weren't alive in the 1950s and I daresay most people don't know about it. I thought Madrid were always owned by the Socios.

Also, what is that about fans of LFC and EFC walking off down the road to watch both teams play on the same day at the same time? That hasn't happened since 1894. I think someone's grandad and uncle have lied to someone, or they're making stuff up for clout.




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05 Jan 2024 10:11:03
Anyone who states that the slightest touch knocks you off balance, ought to watch rugby or dare I say, even American Football. You're being grabbed by 18-22 stone men, round your waist or legs, yet they seem to stay on their feet, travelling at speed whilst attempts at pulling them to the ground happen to them.



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04 Jan 2024 14:48:55
Excellent review as always.

I wasn't aware of Jota's love for FIFA. I do recall the same issue apparently affecting David James' concentration in the 90s though.

Difference is, Jota scores goals as opposed to trying to stop them.

I know these lads don't have the same freedoms and releases most of us allow ourselves and playing video games helps with concentration, speed of decision making, higher brain function and judgement (it has been proven to do so), so it is possibly something else affecting him.



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03 Jan 2024 17:10:10

We're only 6 points ahead of 5th.

Remember a couple of seasons ago when we lost 4 games in a row and 6 out of 7 games, including 4 at home? No, because you only started following LFC last year.

Chickens. hatched. etc.



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04 Jan 2024 10:25:53
So, cheats and cheating are fine?

Honour means nothing.

Sportsmanship means nothing?

Fairness means nothing?

OK then.



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18 Dec 2023 20:53:39
People who attacked Utd's bus, were probably not going the match but just local pillocks sadly.

Brings a bad name on the club, but we could also do with that kind of partisan, vociferous support in the ground, without the violence.

Atmosphere was dead yesterday. Complacent fans, with no real connection to the club - just day trippers and corporate attendees.

I daresay from the 57000 at the match, there's probably fewer than 1000 Scousers and fewer than 10000 fans who've been there for more than 10 years.



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