19 Jan 2023 08:55:53
Last season Liverpool Fc became the team that has ever came closest to winning the quadruple.
The club won both the Fa and league Cup and played every game possible any team could in the league, Cup competition and champions league. last season.
Heading into this season expectations for success were high because of last seasons achievements.
Losing the league by a point on the last game of the season and a one nil defeat in the championship league final is in my opinion.
1.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 09:15:33
Cont.
Is having a massive impact on the team performance this season.
Mentally and physically drained from the massive effort put in last season.
Remember this when you are moaning and batching about money, transfers and recent results.
2.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 09:42:51
You could have a point, JWT72.
Like George Foreman after the Thriller in Manila and Denman after his Cheltenham Gold Cup win.
3.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 10:44:02
It was inevitable, OP. Despite Klopp saying there was no sign of it in pre-season, it was always going to happen. Either he is the only one that was surprised or he is not telling the truth.
Klopp has gone to the well one too many times with this group.
4.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 11:19:45
Would you expect Klopp to go public about it and undermine the players, FPF?
Klopp has tried to strengthen and freshen up the group. If he couldn't then maybe he'd be better going back to the well with players he can trust. Alternatively he could have bought some players that were not good enough and that he couldn't trust.
5.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 11:49:54
I still we are nailed on for the treble.
6.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 12:10:09
Rigsby, Frazier was the Manilla fight. Foreman was The Rumble In The Jungle.
7.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 11:40:59
No Rigsby I wouldn't Jurgen to undermine his players. But equally I don't like lies either.
I would expect him (and his so called experts) to use his decades of football experience to freshen things up before it happened. This is an elite football club with access to elite performance people that understand physical and mental limits.
Any more excuses?
8.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 13:25:28
Haven't you seen our spending since 2019 FPC? So how he's going to freshen up things?
9.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 14:25:18
FPF, talking crap again. He has bought players added to the defence couple of young prospects for midfield ( one who was doing ok til injury set him back) changed the front 3 maybe his decades of experience Out wit yours. Couple of midfielders and another center half that will be the whole team done until Robbo needs replacing. How’s that for “freshened up”.
10.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 14:26:35
Stone, "well spotted, Wilson" (in the voice of Capt. Mainwaring) .
I've just realised my mistake as I was rereading the posts and was about to ask 'is no one going to correct me? ' but you beat me to it.
Ta, mate ?.
11.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 14:34:12
Don't look at it as lies and take it personally, FPF. Look at it is Klopp being tactful.
For arguments sake, say Klopp did think the players look jaded and some of his transfer targets didn't happen (which they didn't) what would you expect him to do?
And if it was inevitable that we'd struggle this season, did you say this before we started to struggle?
12.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 14:34:35
kopforever - you have to decide on whether there's no money to spend or whether Klopp has placed constraints on himself by only wanting to shop in Harrods.
I think there is some truth to the latter.
We'll never know I guess.
What would I have done? Well, we should have added a midfielder in summer 2021 to replace Gini's availability/ physicality and another in summer 2022 to give Fabinho some real cover. We're not talking about a revolution here.
And to say there was no-one suitable available does our scouts a disservice as they would have known about Caicedo, Guimaraes, Kone, Enzo, Gomes, Danilo, Khephren, Nunes, Tchouameni, Ugarte, Luis, Musah, Adams, Vitinha, Otavio etc before they became too expensive/ unattainable.
13.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 14:43:57
scouse john L8 - great, everything is going perfectly well then. can't wait to see Naby and Arthur save our season.
14.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 15:16:33
FPF, I asked what should Klopp have done after last season and you start talking about cover for Fabinho.
Why have you singled out Fabinho?
Was is inevitable that he would be the most jaded? What about the other players that would inevitably be jaded?
I'm sure our scouts knew about the players on your list. Tchouameni went to Madrid after we showed an interest. Guimaraes hadn't been at Newcastle long. I'm not sure how available or suitable the others are because I don't know much about them.
Can you tell me all about them, please?
Or are they just names of midfielders that you can find on the internet?
15.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 15:18:28
Ah OK if we miss out on cl football we'll always have we nearly won the quad to keel us entertain us instead of adding a few players to help those exhausted players, while telling ourselves the massive losses in revenue will be grand, but don't give out bout the lack of spending . Holy Jesus.
16.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 15:20:25
Rigsby - protect your players and staff by all means. Don't make up stupid things to appease the press and gaslight the fans. I am not expecting him to say "my midfielders are crap" and "they won't let me sped". Not at all. But don't doubt the intelligence of the most knowledgeable supporters in the world either. We know footy.
You can read my historic posts if you like. Use the search function. I have been voicing my concerns about the midfield and (d) evolving tactics since the start of last season.
17.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 15:38:56
Rigsby, I see you.
18.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 15:39:54
FPC didn't Klopp just said few days back we don't have money? ?
Klopp on transfers: "I've had 6000 press conferences at Liverpool, I have to tell you again the money story? Why could it be the reason we have money like crazy and we still don't buy players? You know the answer! "
When we badly need a midfielder and yet our manager has to say we don't have funds despite we might miss on CL what makes you think they would've spent when we were competing for trophies?
19.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 16:39:44
Kopforever, he also said in a different press conference if the right player is available, the club will spend, so I really would not read too much into what Klopp says to the media.
20.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 17:12:57
Yup Stuie boy he meant if club's like Brighton benfica etc could Land their assets on instalments just like Gapko. Hence he was upbeat after signing Gapko and had said we are undone in Transfer market ?
But after couple of week quickly understood wasn't possible for teams like Benfica Brighton to allow their assets go through instalments when they've to replace them hence Brighton official mocked us publicly ?.
21.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 17:17:05
kopforever - when he talks about money he means we cannot spend frivolously or make mistakes like some other clubs can. He doesn't mean we are broke.
However, we have made a different type of mistake. Being so conservative in the market that we have practically written off whole seasons (20/ 21 and this season) . That is not the behaviour of an elite club and certainly not one that wants to fight for titles and champions leagues.
22.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 17:54:16
"That is not the behaviour of an elite club and certainly not one that wants to fight for titles and champions leagues" FPC seems you're still struggling to understand our business model.
We have never spent anywhere near midtable clubs forget elite. Hence we are bottom of the pile when it comes spending money don't know what's difficult for you to understand.
We hardly pay upfront hence ed2 explained few months back we deal through foot and mouth.
Players like jota Diaz Thiago Gapko etc were purchased through instalments by tying down our future income hence fans struggle despite our revenue why we still struggle in transfer market coz most of our money is tied down by players we purchased through instalments ?.
23.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 18:03:16
I don't care about being an elite club but we fight for titles and CLs.
We wrote off 20/ 21? We had five centre halves injured at one point. Van Dijk, Gomez, Matip, Fabinho and Henderson. Fab and Hendo had been playing there. We did well to finish third.
This season has been poor. Injuries and new signings settling in. We didn't improve the midfield because Klopp didn't get who he wanted.
Senior players also out form.
We're still competing in the CL, though.
That is a fact.
24.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 18:18:57
You must be a special breed to think Liverpool are the only club to sign players via instalments. Case in point bout why the Eds do not discuss finances on this site.
25.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 18:47:59
Rambo mate seems you're new to the site?
Rigsby mate fact? We are struggling left the squad age without any succession plans.
How many teams have same players altogether for 6-7 yrs and still rely on them especially in EPL which is a physical league?
26.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 19:25:23
Kopforever mate. It's Gakpo, not Gapko. ??♂️.
27.) 19 Jan 2023
19 Jan 2023 20:05:16
kopforever, we are fighting for the CL. That is a fact.
We might not be fighting for the League this season but we were last season. That is also a fact.
We may not be behaving like an elite club or be spending like Villa or Spurs but we regularly have fought for the League and CL under Klopp and FSG.