05 Feb 2018 09:52:37
A while ago I questioned the club's partnership with Tibet water company and its association with a regime with shocking human rights. I now see the club has partnered with a Canadian petro chemical company. I see they're not learning Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - Not they are not.}

1.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 10:25:03
It’s like we are going around the world giving sponsorship contracts to companies that no one else will touch cause they are morally dodgy. The mind boggles.

2.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 10:51:36
Have any of you ever bought clothes or anything else in a store called (not sure if I can name it directly, so it sounds like Drimarc) at any point of your lives?

If you still do, you should check out their manufacturing set up in foreign countries - I would say it resembles child slave labour, but who am I to say so.

Makes me sick, but we have zero control on such things in business, cause that's what football is now first and foremost.

{Ed001's Note - we have all the control, we can choose to take our business elsewhere.}

3.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 11:21:56
I followed that logic Ed001 when i recently tried to go vegetarian to aid in the fight against animal cruelty. First time i went into a supermarket and realised that meat was still on the shelf, it made me realise how small and insignificant we are as individuals. I bought a pack of bacon and got over it.

I might give it another go but i just don't see how we can make a difference when 90-95% of the world don't care. So ultimately you just punish yourself to have no impact.

It's not like any of us are realistically going to boycott football 100% until it changes. I have enough stress without making the world's problems my own! Perhaps I'm just selfish. Apologies for my previous post on this thread by the way. I realised as soon as i hit send that considering where you are based it was a bit silly to bring that up.

{Ed001's Note - how is it punishing your self not to buy crap from Primark etc? As for animal cruelty, vegetarianism is not better for animals as we only have cows, sheep etc for their meat, so they would need culling if everyone went veggie.}

4.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 11:28:51
Done many years ago mate (from my buying clothes point of view) .

Sadly, exploitation is rife in business from top to bottom, almost like how performance enhancing drugs are rife in most pro sports now.

Money causes us to do some crazy, crazy $h! t, but when it affects innocent kids, it's time to draw a line.

5.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 11:32:35
Primark is all i can afford mate 😂

Good point though Ed. Cows would be in the natural history museum if we were all vegan.

"Exhibit 52: T-Rex"
"Exhibit 53: T-Bone"

{Ed001's Note - buy cheap, buy twice....}

6.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 12:34:50
What I don't understand is that JH has taken a noble stand in Boston in renaming a street named after the former owner who was an alleged racist in the '50's and '60's and yet he turns around and does business like this.

7.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 14:00:21
We will be getting sponsored by the galactic empire next with pre season friendlies played on the Death Star.

8.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 16:41:14
Okay, now this may be me being entirely uninformed, but exactly what is the problem with this tie-in? As far as I can see this is a company that creates transmission and engine fluids and lubricants. They are not ravaging baby seals, they are not mining blood diamonds. They are a lubrication company. Why is it so wrong to be sponsored by them?

I can't find any reports online that state that they are responsible for any natural disasters, that they permit gross exploitation of workers, that they practice irresponsibly in any way.

The world wants these products, in fact the world needs these products.

They are no different than any other industrial business.

But I am happy for someone to explain to me exactly why we should be ashamed of ourselves in this.

9.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 18:58:59
Why is a petrochemical company necessarily ‘dodgy? I am guessing you all fill up your cars, and use all manner of oil derivatives? And why is this worse than all the clubs who happily take the shilling of gambling and beer companies?

{Ed002's Note - Nobody is suggesting it is worse - the thread was regarding a host of commercial deals that the club has.}

10.) 05 Feb 2018
05 Feb 2018 22:13:45
Is there some shocking human rights abuse going on in Canada then? 🤔.

11.) 06 Feb 2018
06 Feb 2018 00:34:26
Gee, didn't think this many would respond. Many of you are correct, one individual makes little difference in the stand they take. I choose to live my life in the best way I can. Whether that's being mindful of where I buy my clothes to being nice to the bloke next to me on the train. I believe this is the major difference we can realistically make to make the world a better place.

Liverpool football club is a world brand. I believe the club, with it's vast reach and influence, has a moral obligation to also be mindful of the decisions it makes and the example it sets. Surely we should be focused on quality not quantity. Imagine if the club had just a handful of high profile sponsors/ partners instead of signing deals left, right and centre with whoever throws money at them?

In regard to petro-chemical companies. Whilst the company itself may proud and upstanding, it's a worldwide practice that in general is not doing the planet and its future people any favours when there are better options out there.
Who would love to see the club sign up with a renewable energy company, even if they couldn't pay as much as a petro one?