20 Apr 2024 21:11:40
Fans on this website have started to act like petulant children and it is at times insufferable. You're not satisfied until you've got exactly what you want.

The last fews week's have demonstrated how fickle fans have become. I understand that we all want to win the league (which still hasn't been confirmed) and that is the objective of football, however, it is unlikely that you'll win every year. Don't get me wrong, the results haven't been easy. The fact that many of you are not enjoying what has been a terrific season and a genuine 3 horse race is beyond me. Going toe to toe against the powerhouse of City and a fantastic Arsenal team is exhilarating.

Fans of clubs in the lower divisions and of non-league clubs genuinely think this sort of behaviour from fans is embarrassing. People suggesting rebuilds and throwing their toys out the pram because we didn't get Alonso. We are in a fantastic position. We have a fantastic team but some amazing young players coming through the ranks.

If you're getting this upset by football then you should genuinely find something better to do.

1.) 20 Apr 2024
20 Apr 2024 21:41:07
If you don't get emotional about football and the team you love then i'd argue that its you that needs to find something better to do for yourself.

2.) 20 Apr 2024
20 Apr 2024 22:01:48
All fans on this website?

3.) 20 Apr 2024
20 Apr 2024 22:44:15
I didn't say you can't be emotional about football did I? Nor did I suggest everyone on this website is like this. Passion is a wonderful thing. It's how fans approach and use their passion is embarrassing.

Football fans just lack so much perspective. A lot of the posts on this website would make you believe we're about to be relegated. Liverpool will have a slump. It's inevitable. We do not have the finances and every decision or transfer made will not be a Salah or VVD.

My post is about being presently minded and enjoying the current football. Currently, we act like we're in a complete crisis after every game which is far from the truth. I just think it is telling that fans after the last 3 games have tried to find blame or a scapegoat and then conclude that these players are useless. Nunez being an example. Only 6 weeks ago fans were singing his praises but currently he is the worst player to exist.

Last year Klopp asked fans who are not behind the team to give up their tickets. You're of course allowed to moan and be frustrated. However, this constant vilification of players and flip flopping between opinions is the problem.

4.) 20 Apr 2024
20 Apr 2024 23:12:28
Never understood fans moaning at other fans for expressing their opinion.

So much childish name calling, it’s like a playground sometimes.

If no-one said anything or we all said the same then this website would die.

Disagree respectfully and if you don’t like different opinions then log off.

5.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 00:42:12
@Ron, the bickering is just the sort of conversation you used to get in the pubs on the night before and after the match.

The difference is those conversations were in real time and were probably about three or four conversations bouncing around a group of lads that lasted for about 10 seconds and usually were ended by someone asking what the round was or someone heading off for a pee. They were ten a penny conversations and the tone was argumentative / banter but the implied aggression you get these days on social media was very rare and was oftentimes headed off by someone telling whoever was arguing to ‘behave yourself’ etc.

The two big problems with this forum (and it’s not the fault of the forum, or the owner / administrators of the forum) is that any conversation can be started / twisted by mischief makers who (usually) aren’t fans of the club and the other problem is that conversations aren’t in real time and don’t convey the tone of contributions. This lack of context leads to misunderstanding, which in turn can lead people taking offence and that leads to ‘feuds’.

Most of the time the bickering is misplaced but once it happens it generally leaves a bad taste. I would add that I’m just as ‘guilty’ for want of a better word as anybody who uses this board.

6.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 00:47:28
This fickle fan nonsense bugs me . I go the games . I hope that we win n gutted when we don't. but when the team puts in performances has it has done lately, especially when we can almost smell the trophies . Then we've got every right to air our grievances. This super fan rubbish is fickle.

7.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 01:30:36
I'm usually over positive about Liverpool, I love the team and I love Klopp but I can't be positive about it and how we've been recently, if anybody can they I would question them on how? You have to understand, many people will get angry about it, yes it's football and anything can happen but this sudden downfall is a bit off for me.

Just to add, I don't care what you think of my posts, I'll give an opinion when I want to as every single poster on this site has the right to do. You can't go calling people wrong for it, we're doing bloody terrible, that isn't opinionated it's fact and nevermind the season as a whole, we've failed at the last hurdle and bottled it, you know it like the rest of us do. After such a good season we're blowing it, been knocked out of competitions, loosing the best manager we've had for years, tactics are terrible, the list goes on. What do you expect? us all to be onboard with what is currently going on? no wonder people are annoyed, we were so close to winning everything and now we are so far away.

I'm looking forward to change, Klopp will always be a legend in my eyes, he's done so much for us and he is one of us but change is needed now. We will not win the league, we can't score and we can't defend, we can't win a bloody arguement at the minute. How are we meant to say what you want us to say?

8.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 08:21:56
Celebrate the team when we win, criticise them when we under-perform. Its how football fans have been since the game was invented. It doesn't mean they are not supporting the club. It probably sounds worse because its in a written format here rather than verbal but i’ve been in pubs for decades with supporters moaning that Neil Ruddock needs a kick up the backside or David Ngog is awful or Gerrard needs to hurry up and retire. Honestly, anyone who didn't say a bad word about Keita or Ballotelli while they were playing for us was not a real supporter of the club in my opinion. Players come and go and are idolised and criticised but the club is what should be supported.

9.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 08:50:14
I’ll be honest when I’m in Anfield I hate it when I’m next to these emotional fans. All they do is bloody sing and shout.

Give me one of those non emotional tourist fans any day of the week.

And if they happen to have their phone out the whole game filming and taking pics rather than watching the game then even better. That’s the icing in the cake for me.

10.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 10:26:01
We all get passionate and emotional, I'm sure. What I don't get is that after a bad run or even one bad result or performance some fans want to replace half of the squad or the coaching staff. It's not practical and it's not going to happen.
And there are fans that completely overreact. I'm reading that we won't make top four and Spurs will.
I know it's a self defence mechanism whereby if we ridicule our own team, it doesn't hurt as much when fans of other teams do it.
It doesn't bother me and there's only City and Arsenal fan that can banter us and I would congratulate them on what they achieve this season anyway.
We're all fans of football.

11.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 10:43:17
OP what I disagree about with your post is that you don't offer any perspective as to why people might be reacting as they do, more than just adding insult to them. I think what happens is that emotions get the better of us - some supporters more than others. And since we're on a forum where expressions and emotions are very much interpreted by our own minds and our own agenda, as well as not always coming off in the best way possible, it might come off as entitlement or lacking perspective. In truth I think the fairytale of Klopp and this Liverpool team, the hope of ending with four, the end of all of this - is what makes it so much more disappointing. It's the hope that kills ya.

I don't agree with the people saying we should sell half the team, or that we need to throw every player and coach under the bus. And I do believe that some people forget the perspective, and I honestly believe I see plenty of entitlement too, yes also on here - but just as well, it's the emotions running high and you can't take that out of the supporters. Why would you want to? You'd get Anfield sounding like the Etihad, this forum would be completely static and empty, banter wouldn't exist etc etc.

Hell, I might not often moan on here, but I've had my fair share of insults thrown at this team through this last month (and in general all the years of supporting this team) - it's the way football has always been, and this time around, it just all feels that much more disappointing. It's okay to look at what's in front of you and pointing out that it needs changing. Even Klopp himself has admitted it - and unfortunately, his battery died out about a month or two too early. But I think we all see it. Then we might all disagree on what exactly needs changing and why - but I believe most of us are now looking forward to the change. We just all show it differently.

12.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 10:59:53
@Darwin, it’s also possible to say that we were lucky to win or, equally, that we have been unlucky to lose. The idea that we praise the team when we win and criticise when we lose isn’t necessarily valid. Constructive criticism should always be welcome at any time - my issue is that sometimes criticism isn’t constructive and repeating the same thing over and over again - praise or criticism - doesn’t serve any purpose.

13.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 11:01:29
Rigsby that’s just internet talk mate.

Football has been around far longer than the internet and gone are the days where you could go to a match or watch it in a pub (if you were lucky enough that it was televised) and then air your frustrations or joy before, during and after and then it was all forgotten about until the next match day.

Now games are still spoken about hourly and daily for weeks after which is great for us as we all chose to come to this site to discuss.

14.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 11:34:06
WDW3 - how can criticism on a forum be “constructive”?

Do you think the players or the coaches read our criticism and think - he’s made a good point there?

Come on mate. This forum exists for fans to banter, to share anecdotes, to share rumours, to share opinion, to ask questions and mostly to vent their frustrations when we underperform - hyperbole encouraged.

None of the comments are “constructive”, a lot of the time it’s to get stuff off your chest and that’s why some of the criticism is repetitive.

The name calling is just ridiculous, but if it makes people feel self righteous and good about themselves to put others down then that’s their life ?‍♂️.

15.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 12:04:59
I agree, JK, criticism is one thing and often justified but we also need to be realistic. We can't just get rid of half of the squad or the manager if we have a bad result.
It's also often knee jerk because of one mistake or one game. I had a discussion with a mate-not on the internet- about Quansah after the United game after he said he'd never play for Liverpool again.
Discussion is great, I enjoy it and I'm not saying I'm right and others are wrong if they want to replace half of the squad or coaching staff when they are not performing but I will point out that recklessness of that.

16.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 12:38:49
Rigsby but that’s the thing mate. Regardless of what posters say on the internet it has zero bearing in the decisions.

I very much doubt John Henry is sat there thinking Christ Harry wants half the team sold we best get Edwards on the case ASAP ?.

Good to see you back posting also as I did notice you went for a while. Sometimes a break is good. I’m as guilty as anyone in sometimes posting without thinking first but never with any malice.

I’ve had a few breaks myself.

17.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 13:12:48
Cheers, JK, and it's good to be back. I don't think it's coincidence that it comes when we are playing well.
I do come on here to kick the cat, so to speak, when we have been rubbish. We all want the same things- or similar things- but posters have different expectation levels and ways of handling those and discussing them is why we log on.
Personally, I think top four and a trophy is a good season for us especially with an almost entirely new midfield and front three that has been severely downgraded.

18.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 19:10:14
Constructive criticism should come from the management and the players themselves, not people in the pub or on forums like this, half the players can't even read English nevermind go on platforms similar to this.

19.) 21 Apr 2024
21 Apr 2024 22:04:57
@Stromgodset, that made me laugh. Why does being constructive have to come from certain people?