18 Dec 2023 20:17:12
Well for me I think this is the toughest period of matches coming up. I think this next game will go a long way in deciding our fate.
I am totally shocked to find us in 2nd place. Loving that we're high up the league, but a defeat to West Ham I feel will make our season implode.
I said beginning of the season we would be top ten to much amusement to many on here.

Obviously praying not but I think we've peaked for this season. This West Ham game for me goes along way to shaping the rest of the season.
From the points we've gathered to date will give us top six which is an improvement to my original thoughts.

1.) 18 Dec 2023
18 Dec 2023 21:00:28
West ham are rubbish away from home. Moyes to park a triple ducker bus. Can we break them?

2.) 18 Dec 2023
18 Dec 2023 21:12:25
the perception that we have peaked is interesting. I would have thought most people would agree that we haven't hit anywhere near the best version of this team this season.
are you more thinking that our luck has run out for the rest of the season?

3.) 18 Dec 2023
18 Dec 2023 21:53:43
Yeah, @Faith. It is very possible to be at your peak while at the same time, being a work in progress. So I guess in the second half of the season we will fall to midtable with no chance of improving, yeah? Seriosuly, this is what we are being afflicted with on a daily basis.

And this is coming from a guy who was lecturing me about a week ago to listen to Harry more cos there is a lot I could learn about football from him. Based on that line alone, I see what Negative Walter is learning from Harry, things I want absolutely nothing to do with.

4.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 01:24:45
Oli - It does seem a bit of an odd thing to say.

I think this season is a bit of a lottery and it could drag on with each of the title-chasing teams having patches of consistent and inconsistent play.

in the summer my expectation was a title challenge on the assumption we were going to make one or two solid changes to the midfield that would help re-energize Hendo and Fab et al. But then we witnessed a midfield overhaul and I adjusted my expectations to being a top 4 challenge which I think was entirely reasonable given the experience we were losing from the middle of the park.

So for me we are tracking amazingly well and embedding the same old psyche with a new younger set of players. It all bodes well for me and that we are well in the chase nearing the halfway point is an awesome start.

5.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 05:43:36
@Faith
Just in the below post you claim we have not lost anything with the departure of Hendo and Fabinho ?????. Losing the faith mate.

6.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 08:27:12
This is the guy who said we'd be finishing mid table this season.
Now we're in 2nd place and still looking to get into our stride we're at risk of imploding over 1 game.
Comical stuff.

7.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 08:47:58
Habibi, what time does the triple ducker bus arrive at Anfield, that's going to be worth seeing!

8.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:11:18
I don't see us getting into our stride though, we've been quite poor and have been saved by some late goals.
We've got some issues to resolve and I'm not sure we have the time to fix them, midfield composition isn't working, especially with all the changes we're making week on week (some are forced by injuries) . The offense looks really out of whack, salah cutting in, diaz cutting in, trent into midfield, gomez and tsimikas with next to 0 end product. Means we are so focused on being central that its just not working.
The only positive in the last few weeks, is that the CB's don't look as bad as they did at the start of the season, hopefully konate can return a bit more to form.
But yeah I would see some points being dropped in the next month
2nd is irrelevant at this stage of the season, and form is more important for me, especially with how busy it is.

9.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:06:47
The only important game is the next one, if we win or lose, the next game will always be the most important game.

10.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:21:45
15 minutes before the kick off @Jack lol.

11.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:42:57
Habibi - don’t think I mentioned Fabinho and Hendo in the below post. You’ll have to help me figure out which two different statements you’re connecting together to force your point.

12.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:46:10
@Flash, are you surprised? Is this your first rodeo with Harry on here where he just spouts nonsense? The guy who said we will finish midtable, is now the guy telling us we won't win the title, something he himself NEVER said we would even challenge for. Same ol' schtick, different day.

He is like Donald Trump. If Trump tweets something, just go back a bit and you will find a tweet where he tweeted the exact opposite. Same for Gary Neville. If he says something now. Go back to the Sky Sports archives and you will find where he said the opposite. They should all hang out together.

13.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 09:53:14
@Faith, it's not odd at all. It is absolute waffle and a clear contradiction cos those two statements cannot be true at the same time. If I am new on a job and still trying to find my way, how can I have reached my peak? Seriously, what are we doing here with such illogical stuff? Makes no sense at all, IMO.

Now to your point, I've been saying it as well that we are where we are in our rebuild and it is quite impressive even tho, we are a work in progress and we clearly have things to get better at which is pretty scary if you look at it as deeply as you have.

As for a title challenge, Klopp said it best. Give it till March and we will see if we are in a title challenge for real. Till then as @DeanW (spot on with your comment, btw) said, being 2nd is irrelevant at this point cos there is a whole lot that can still happen. All we need to do is focus on getting better every day and don't get too hyped up or too down with the results. Klopp isn't, clearly.

14.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 11:40:38
Strange one this season lads - a point off the top and honestly not seeming to be playing to well if we're honest.

We do seem to keep grinding out results though which is good - it will be interesting to see if we can continue that and it will be very interesting to see if the team can hit a real bit of form as well.

Ali playing very well though as is VVD, which is good to see him back to a bit of form - midfield chipping in with goals too which we never had before

Salah having a decent season numbers wise again, though he has not been his mercurial best of late given the high standards he has hit

Diaz looks obviously affected with the unruly stuff that happened his father and Nunez, whilst working hard is not scoring at the minute - would love things to click again with our forward line and we will be truly lethal

Gonna be an interesting season lads and we should be in the mix.

15.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 12:09:22
@faith

You say we have lost the energy after losing hendo and fabinho (a midfield overhaul) . a post below you say losing them has no relevance to us not beating UTD.
You can't have two ways. either we lost a great deal of influence of hendo and fabinho on all over the pitch and that includes scoring gaols or we don't care.

@Oli mate you are like a BOT. its either Ed01 or nobody lol and BTW Trump is winning again.

16.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 12:12:04
There is no rebuild happening at LFc. you are talking trash @Oli. Whenever we lose posters comes up with this strange rebuild crap and when we win we quickly mvoe on to another.

We don't score goals - Its rebuild
We concede - Its Rebuild
we trashes a team - wow we are winning quadriple.

17.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 13:06:39
Wow, never seen you so enraged, Harry. It doesn't look good on you btw cos the more you get triggered it seems, the worse you waffle. As they say in the States, "A hit dog will holler". I'm talking trash cos I say we are in a rebuild, something Klopp and many LFC fans know and openly say and accepted since end of last season? You said we would be midtable this season so essentially as things stand, you were wrong (shocking, I know) so why should anyone take you seriously, really? Bro, go figure yourself out first before trying to shout others down with your contradiction-filled waffle that make no sense to the average bear in the forest.

And if you actually read what I write, I have NEVER said we were in a title race and have always maintained that it is too early to say that cos well, we are in a rebuild. I have always said that by March, we will see if we are in a title race. And I have never used the rebuild as an excuse for not winning either. We are in a rebuild and we are well ahead of schedule atm. Deal with it.

18.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 16:39:30
Think Oli v Harry needs its own page at this rate ?.

{Ed025's Note - this is not the Muppet show you know Taurus.. :)

19.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 18:12:00
Ed025, I'm actually saddened that the "lovefest à trois" only lasted a weekend. ?. There was even an attempt to add a "fourth musketeer" (Negative Walter), but that was rebuffed. Now we're back to the same ole same ole, once again. ?.

{Ed025's Note - ahh well it was nice while it lasted ArAy, the season of good will has ended early it seems mate, Melchior, Balthazar and Caspar nearly had another wise man in Negative Walter so maybe thats a good thing.. :)

20.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 18:41:52
@Habibi - Can you find where I said we lost energy when we lost Fabinho and Hendo? actually don't worry, I didn't say that.

You're connecting bits of and pieces of what I've written about two totally different discussion points and presenting them back incorrectly. I really can't be bothered trying to de-construct how you've interpreted what I've written to be honest.

Maybe bullet points are simpler:
* We lost a lot of experience in one transfer window
* I thought that would impact our ability to sustain a title challenge
* the absence of key leaders, in a silo of one game, imo, has little to no impact on a player's ability to score a goal in that game.
* sustaining a title challenge and analyzing our ability to score a goal in a single game are very different things.

hope that helps.

21.) 19 Dec 2023
19 Dec 2023 21:43:46
Only Citeh and Spurs have outscored us this season (and currently have the best goal difference) - but we can't score goals.
Seems like a logical conclusion to me.

22.) 20 Dec 2023
20 Dec 2023 05:51:36
@Faith
In a nutshell,
We lost two experienced players which doesn’t have any impact on the current playing eleven or our performances. Can we lock this here?

23.) 20 Dec 2023
20 Dec 2023 05:53:02
By your logic Every team in this division is undergoing a rebuild including Manchester United ?????. Can you tell me which team is not undergoing a rebuild?

24.) 20 Dec 2023
20 Dec 2023 08:05:19
Again, you're conflating two different points.
I'm not wasting another post trying to explain it.