30 Dec 2022 06:57:36
Just think if instead Everton had been taken over by the
people who purchased MCFC.

Take a minute to think about how watching Everton winning league titles, league cups and Fa cups must feel.

Now think how it feels for the Man U fans.

At least one good thing comes from cities success.

1.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 07:27:23
I thought you were going to challenge the moral lines of fans if it was our city rivals lol.

2.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 08:28:06
As a fan of Liverpool, who cares what Everton, City or United fans do or feel?

{Ed025's Note - how insular of you WDW, how was your chrismas eve meeting with jacob marley mate.. :)

3.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 09:39:05
I've seen Everton win titles and cups and it never bothered me because it was friendly rivalry then. There was none of this toxic tribalism bullsh#te that goes on nowadays.

4.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 13:07:21
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I care what Everton does. I hope they get better. It's better for the city and community. I also would love to see it get back to the friendly rivalry. All of this divisiveness is boring. Support your club absolutely, but be happy for your friends and family who support the blue side as well. But, then again I'm sure I'm in the minority.

5.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 14:33:31
I used to think that too mate. Liked the rivalry respect but now the matches are hard to watch these days. I’m always worried they’ll do one of our players. I can’t relax until full time (regardless of how much we’ve beaten them) I’m sure there’s two teams in it but there really seems to be a nastiness in the matches the last few years. Forgive me ed25 if you think I’m seeing it a little too much through red tinted glasses.

{Ed025's Note - they have been nasty for a long while now aoe, mainly town to jealousy and one team being far superior mate, but now you have signed some good players recently so maybe that will change.. :)

6.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 14:38:00
Divided i am stone. Great for the city if both teams were prospering but I would also love to see the back of them, absolutely dread playing these days all the injuries we end up with.

7.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 16:43:33
Ed25 - classic response to are.

Hope the other Ed's don't get jealous but you are my favorite just because of your witty responses.

I suppose being an Everton supporter means that you have to have a sense of humor ?.

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate, your dead right there JLCBM it stops me crying myself to sleep every night mate.. :)

8.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 17:01:57
Ed finally agrees nunez is a good player?.

{Ed025's Note - he is very dangerous and quick liverbird, but his brain is a lot slower than his big clown feet mate..

9.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 17:21:08
To be fair Ed, every now and again I do catch myself thinking it would be nice if something good happened at Everton - after the years and years and years and years of misery the fans have had to endure and then I think that somebody actually chooses to offer Jon’s to the procession of managers and contracts to a succession of seriously average players and I just start laughing. Still, there’s always next year eh?

10.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 17:50:36
It would be awesome to challenge them for the title. As long as the matches were a little cleaner. Cheers for the reply Ed. Much appreciated mate.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

11.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 18:39:34
Hi I miss the days of our friendly rivalry and for me I would love to see Everton 2nd every season in the league to Liverpool. My grandad was a huge blue he even hated one of my aunties ex’s as he had a resemblance to Ian Rush. My Nan is a massive red my grandad was blue and derby day was a great experience growing up . My grandad unfortunately has passed away now but Everton have been amazing regarding this they put his name and picture up on the screen and actually gave me a signed shirt which I will put on the wall with a picture of him . I have never hated Everton I used to go Goodison with him regularly but I was always a red from birth . I understand most of the toxic behaviour now stems from Heysel but I much prefer the friendly Derby but I fear those days are long gone . I worry for Everton this year as I feel they are going down as they don’t have a talisman to keep them up . I hope they stay up and like I said for me Liverpool champions and Everton 2nd every year will do me it’s good for the city to have us both challenging. Sorry for the rant and a happy new year to you all red or blue.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think it stems from heysel dan, i believe its a social problem that stems from a general lack of respect from the modern generation, banter has been replaced by violence and toxic chanting by both sets of fans mate which has ended my love affair with the derbies, i have not been to one for over 10 years and will not go to one ever again..

12.) 30 Dec 2022
30 Dec 2022 19:00:16
I agree there is a very toxic side to it all now mate . I haven’t been to a Derby since the gerrard hat trick and that got rough later in town . It’s a shame . I wish you well mate always hope you stay up.

{Ed025's Note - cheers dan..

13.) 31 Dec 2022
31 Dec 2022 02:22:54
I’d like to see Everton do well. It’s good for the city to have two successful clubs. Maybe we should throw them a Caribou Cup every now and then so they don’t fall too far behind.

14.) 31 Dec 2022
31 Dec 2022 07:42:44
Being serious for a bit I think that the art of verbal communication is dying not least due to the rise of social media.

Take this thread for instance : I’m physically remote and am communicating through a keyboard. All (or virtually all) subtlety of meaning or nuance in tone is easily lost and because of that the actual underlying meaning of what I am saying is very easily lost too. Sarcasm, irony, self deprecation and good old fashioned banter are easy to miss and the result is that texts / emails etc are often misread and interpreted as (personal) attacks. As a matter of fact I’ve had a couple of instances this week but have been able to resolve genuine misunderstandings amicably but that is not always the case.

In the old days - in the case of the rivalry between the Reds and the Blues - members of the family and friends and acquaintances actually spoke to each other at home, or work or in social settings like the pub and communicated - took the mickey out of each other, had arguments, laughed at each other and together but most times resolved any minor issues there might be before the got out of hand. The physical connection with real people, rather than a machine and strangers presenting versions of themselves as they would like to be seen rather than as they are, enabled empathy which was all to the betterment of the society we chose to live in.

Society has become increasingly insular and, as Ed025 said, the current generation is a different animal than my (our) generation. These days it is very easy to apportion blame in the cyber world, to present yourself as never having made a mistake and to pass off data (gathered from any number of dubious sources) as knowledge.

Whoops, sorry, got carried away there - time to stop ranting.