01 Oct 2023 15:44:02
After yesterday's game I truly believe Liverpool will be cities closest contenders this season. They are far ahead of spurs in my view and I can see them getting hammered a anfield. They will likely make top 4 that is it though.

I'm glad the form Liverpool have showed is a true reflection of a team going in the right direction the hunger and fight is back and they are a team that will not be beaten easily and in this case fairly. Super proud of the team they wore their hearts on their sleaves.

1.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 16:36:15
After yesterdays game I truly believe they will stop us from competing for the title

They are doing everything in their power to prevent Liverpool Football club from challenging.

{Ed002's Note - Who is”they”? The Illuminati? Guardian readers? The Beatles fan club?}

2.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 16:40:46
To, be honest I thought Tottenham were quite, poor yesterday and I seen nothing to worry about in them. I thought when we went down to nine that they would really get at us but they could t.

I think they will be 5th or 6th.

3.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 16:46:10
Doubt we challenge anyone with the agenda against us they will make sure with the consistent errors against us.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody has an agenda against Liverpool.}

4.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:00:52
Agreed, there is no agenda, that’s just a childish response if you ask me. Just pi#s poor decisions that could potentially have an impact on a teams season. I mean the VAR no goal shouldn’t be happening EVER these days. That’s just down right incompetence.

{Ed002's Note - Yes mistakes and poor decisions.}

5.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:10:37
And why would 'they' do that, LiverpoolFC8?
Are you creating a 'they' that makes it easier for you to accept Liverpool not winning the League?
If it helps you, mate, you carry on.

6.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:29:04
No agenda, but it certainly looks like corruption.

{Ed002's Note - What evidence do you have for that - who are you making this serious accusation against? Why are the Liverpool fans embarrassing the selves so much.}

7.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:50:22
What evidence do you expect a fan to have, Ed002? The actions of the match officials yesterday cannot simply be put down to incompetence. I think a lot of Liverpool supporters would be prepared to accept or, at least, discuss the red cards even if they were wrong decisions. But the disallowed goal is more than that - the speed at which they closed off the replays, the failure to draw lines as proof, the fumbled and barely believable excused spewed out after - it stinks to high heaven.

{Ed002's Note - Well if there is no evidence then how can serious accusations be made?}

8.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:54:13
There are so many instances of corruption over the years in football, that is can’t just be ruled out. These things normally take years to come out. There are just too many instances of a certain team always getting the Decision in their favour when the league is close. Maybe it’s unlikely but there is more than a whiff.

{Ed002's Note - You are scratching around liking to justify something that simply isn’t true Mark.}

9.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:19:59
Agreed, Irish.
Blame, deflect and deny. We were let down badly but I don't think it was down to corruption. They've apologised for the biggest mistake and if they were cheating they would have made it less obvious, surely?

10.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:05:43
I don’t think the accusations are serious - they are an emotional outburst born out of understandable frustration at the continuing ineptitude displayed by a growing number of match day officials both on and off the pitch at a variety of matches involving multiple teams - sometimes Liverpool sometimes not.

11.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:14:09
Evening ed002.
Obviously I have no evidence of corruption. And I did only say it looks like corruption.

{Ed002's Note - How can something look like corruption? Ipswich Town owner seen with Jiffy bag?}

12.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:19:19
The thing is Ed002 it’s far easier for people to accept the conspiracy theories than to come to terms with the staggeringly poor level of officiating in this country.

Last night wasn’t just a “Liverpool” issue it was the final nail in the coffin for many fans.

The “mistake” last night was so bad if it was in a film you would scoff at how unrealistic it was.

13.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:33:40
There might not be an agenda against Liverpool but there definitely is enough evidence to suggest that the officials are trying to manufacture results in certain games. Last night being the most blatant example of it.

I can handle losing away at Spurs, it’s a tough game there’s no shame in it. Last night though we were not given any opportunity to win the game though due to the officials. Prior to the sending off and the Diaz goal we’d had 7 shots to their 1. We were well in the game and in the ascendancy.

Anything that happened after that was irrelevant because the officials had given one team a huge unfair advantage.

Ed2 you can say it’s simply not true but you don’t have access to the officials bank accounts, phone records, laptops. You have no idea if a betting syndicate has got to them to manufacture a result just as we don’t know if they have.

Given the blatantly biased nature of the decisions and the unwillingness to correct the ‘goal’ after the event, the VAR showing stills of a tackle to convince the ref to send someone off, it would suggest to me that there is more evidence pointing to foul play than not. You simply can’t disallow that goal unless you meant to. Nobody is that incompetent.

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry but there is nothing to substantiate anything you are suggesting- you are a bitter and twisted fan who is convinced it is someone else’s fault and that Everton fans dress up as Liverpool fans to throw rocks at coaches. It truly is laughable.}

14.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:49:14
It can look like corruption because decisions were that bad and inexcusable that you have to question the reasoning for them. Mistakes of this magnitude shouldn’t happen, but they did.

15.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:52:01
You're right, Wassa.
The offside mistake was too bad to be a mistake but unless something comes out that says otherwise, that's what it was. A mistake or series of mistakes.
We'll get over it.

16.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 19:12:34
So that's it then. let's brush it under the carpet. Nothing to see here. Move on.

If we don't question the authority, then nothing will change.

This is not the 1st time that the VAR official in question got it so wrong. it wasn't even a difficult decision. Draw the lines like the rules say and get to an answer. If you don't follow the rules, then yes, it can be called corruption.

Why we are expected to simply shut up and move on is exactly why this is happening so often.

17.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 19:41:07
It's not being brushed under the carpet because we are discussing it and there has been an apology. I'm sure action will be taken against those responsible, too.
It's not good enough but VAR isn't and we have to accept it.
For now.

{Ed001's Note - you clearly have no understanding of the term 'brushed under the carpet' or how the PGMOL works. The officials will simply not work Prem games for a short period and then be back. Hooper has already been 'punished' once this season. Even ex-referees are admitting they falsely affect the games by making decisions which are not the correct ones. But so long as we get the sheep like you who just back mindlessly it will continue. You simply can't have match officials from the same city, who support the team they are officiating, yet we regularly see it in the Premier League with Anthony Taylor. We also should not have the officials going off to do side jobs in the employ of those who own one of the clubs, yet the VAR officials against Spurs had just been off to the UAE to work in the employ of the owners of Man City. It doesn't matter if they don't mean to be influenced by these factors, they are human beings and will be. That is even if there is no one putting pressure on them, they will feel under pressure themselves and that creates a culture of fear and mistakes.}

18.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 19:03:12
I understand your points ed. But maybe you didn’t see the Juve scandal for example. I doubt you would be able to say with total certainty that it hasn’t happened. Some of the 115 charges were pretty well hidden.

{Ed002's Note - I am well aware what has happened at Juventus.}

19.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 19:06:48
A very typical response from Ed2. Your knowledge of transfers and the inner working of football clubs is unrivalled on this site and we all massively appreciate it.

Your knowledge of the game of football itself however, is very limited. As are your people skills.

Anyone who has ever played the game at any level would tell you there was something very fishy going on last night. No official who’s made it all the way to the premier league can possibly be that incompetent.

If you honestly believe that there is absolutely no possibility of officials being manipulated to produce an end result then I’m massively surprised. I really didn’t have you down as someone who could be that naive.

{Ed002's Note - I apologise that my knowledge of the game is so limited.}

20.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 20:20:59
I think the officials were incompetent in the execution of their corruption ?. So they cheated and were so obvious in their cheating that people noticed their cheating?
Maybe it was a double bluff ?.

{Ed002's Note - About Liverpool?}

21.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 20:34:47
@BP, I think you are wrong about officials manipulating results. Everything else seems reasonable enough though.

22.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 20:16:38
Ed001, I know what being brushed under the carpet means and what am I mindlessly backing?
How are the allegations of corruption being brushed under the carpet when we are discussing them? You are even adding more evidence to the allegations with the news about the visit to the UAE to work for the owners of City. I'm not brushing it under the carpet or mindlessly ignoring it and would like to know more about it and if anything will be done about it, please.
Also, do the owners of City not see Spurs as challenging them for the PL? What if Spurs getting three points is more damaging to City's title hopes than getting a point?

{Ed001's Note - you are mindlessly backing the pgmol with claims that they will act when they have already done all they will do.

We are talking about it here but it is not being mentioned on any major media channels, how is it not being brushed under the carpet? It is like you are being deliberately obtuse now. You are repeating questions that have been answered but you are not bothering to read and understand.

And now you are taking the piss suggesting Spurs be seen as a threat.}

23.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 20:52:31
Ed01, I mentioned the same things in another thread. How the PGMOL can allow their refs. to go to other countries to ref games and make tons of money esp. going to a country who own Man City and work their games, is something I will NEVER understand cos the screaming conflict of interest in such practices is blatant.

Also, people are free to to deny what their ears and eyes are seeing and keep believing in the "goodness" of people whose actions prove the contraty. That's on them. I refuse to do so. Not anymore.

24.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 21:04:46
I’m with ed01. The fact the VAR officials had been employed by city’s owners is in itself a conflict of interest imo. And the ones who drew the lines in the WRONG place got a two game ban. Its a joke we are treated like fools we have to push for the automated version of var that was used in the World Cup and Europe but vetoed by the PGMOL at the beginning of the season. Why was it voted against?

25.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 21:12:35
wow, a bit good Ed, bad Ed going on here. If you scream conspiracy, Ed02 jumps on you and if you stick up for the pgmol Ed01 jumps on you. Me, I just love everyone. Especially the Eds. In the words of Radiohead, IM A CREEP, IM A weirdo, what am i doing here, i don't belong here.

26.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 21:44:52
I don't think anyone is sticking up for the PGMOL, Itstrue.
I certainly haven't even though I have been accused of doing so.

27.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 22:13:31
Rigsby you may not of stated it but read your posts back it sure feels like your are. Maybe you should work for var cos you can’t see the obvious ?.

28.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 22:15:24
I reckon ed 01 and 02 should have a charity boxing match to settle the debate ?.

29.) 02 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 20:55:40
I don't know what you mean, Ed002, but I meant a double bluff in that make the cheating so obvious that no one suspects cheating.
It didn't work, did it?
I'm not saying the officials cheated but if they were going to, I think they'd have been more subtle than to disallow an inside goal and not check it.

{Ed002's Note - Why would they cheat?}